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GOOD INTENTIONS BETRAYED – Tammi Johnson advises anyone who is looking to adopt a pet through Facebook to avoid buy and sell pages. She points out reputable breeders have their own pages.

Yukoner victimized by Alberta-based scam

A Whitehorse resident wants to warn potential pet adopters to be careful when searching for animals on Facebook.

By Gord Fortin on December 24, 2018

A Whitehorse resident wants to warn potential pet adopters to be careful when searching for animals on Facebook.

Tammi Johnson told the Star last Thursday that she was the victim of a scam when she tried to adopt two puppies found on a Facebook buy and sell page.

The post was found on the Spruce Grove (Alta.) Buy and Sell page of Dec. 14. The post advertised Maltipoos.

She explained the seller’s profile appeared legitimate. It was full of family photos, having been created in 2008.

“There was a great big history,” she said.

Johnson had made arrangements to adopt the last two available from the individual.

She explained her husband is allergic, thus the couple needs to adopt a hypo-allergenic dog. Maltipoos are one such breed.

The seller was willing to hold them provided Johnson paid a deposit. She sent an Interact e-Transfer of $600, which was accepted.

The seller sent an address where the dogs could be picked up. She arranged to be there on Dec. 16.

The couple flew to Edmonton on Dec. 15. They had already planned to be in the city, since they have family there. Picking up these dogs was an added bonus to the trip.

Johnson sent the seller a Facebook message on the night of Dec. 15, but it could not be delivered. The seller’s profile had disappeared.

The profile would later return, but their conversation was removed because it was determined to be either abusive or spam.

“That’s when I clued in that I was possibly scammed,” she said.

She looked up the address on both Google Maps and a plain Google search. There was a house at that address – but the search uncovered that it was both vacant and for sale.

On Dec. 16, they went to the address, hoping for the best, but no one was there with any puppies.

Johnson called the real estate agent and discovered that the name of the previous owner did not match the name of the seller.

She talked to the neighbours and was told the house had been vacant since late September. She also learned that the previous owner did not have any pets.

She next went to Spruce Grove’s RCMP detachment. She told police what had happened. She would also call her bank but nothing could be done until the bank receives information from police.

“Right now I’m just out the money and no puppies,” she said.

She clarified this scam goes beyond the $600 deposit. It also includes the money the couple spend on supplies for the two puppies. This includes crates, kennels and dog toys. She estimated this would bring loss between $800 and $900.

She hopes the RCMP is able to track the e-Transfer, as it was accepted.

“We think here would have to be some kind of electronic trail somewhere,” she said.

This has also had an emotional impact. Johnson said she cried for three days, but is past that point, and is now angry.

She explained she can always earn the money back, but not everyone is in this position.

She worries what would happen if a family on a limited income was the victim, as this kind of scheme could ruin Christmas for their kids. The parents in this case may not have the funds to buy gifts.

“That’s the part that burns me,” she said.

Johnson does not have kids with her husband. He he has grown children himself.

That said, she explained the couple’s Christmas has been affected. Since the scam ate up their gift money, now they can only get stocking stuffers.

Since the Dec. 15-16 weekend, she has been monitoring the seller’s Facebook profile. She has noticed it repeatedly disappears and reappears. One such time, it reappeared in French – when it had originally been in English.

She conducted further online searches and found similar if not identical posts on other buy and sell pages, as well as other websites she said she found on a sale site in the U.K. This post had further details of the puppies and the same pictures.

“There was a bigger and larger post,” she said.

The post was also found on two Victoria Buy and Sell pages as well as one in Taber, Alta.

She noted that the seller was also a member of similar pages in Newfoundland and Labrador, but was unable to find posts there. She reported the Victoria and Taber posts, which were ultimately taken down.

She added that the Spruce Grove post was deleted after the monetary exchange. She said all the posts had the same date. The U.K. was put online at around the same time as well.

She reported this information to the Whitehorse RCMP detachment. She was told the matter would have to stay in Alberta, but that the information would be forwarded.

She advises anyone who is looking to adopt a pet through Facebook do avoid buy and sell pages. She pointed out reputable breeders have their own pages.

Johnson recommends withholding e-Transfers or payment until you see the animal. She clarified you could risk losing the adoption opportunity, but you would protect yourself from potential fraud.

She also advises people to thoroughly go through the seller’s Facebook profile. She thought she had done this in her case.

Comments (11)

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Not My Opinion on Dec 28, 2018 at 2:29 pm

@ My opinion, wow I didn’t know we could find everything locally that you can buy in Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton. Can I contact you directly when I can’t find what I’m looking for in Whitehorse?

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grammar nerd on Dec 28, 2018 at 9:06 am

@ Tara: Could there HAVE been ....

Thank you.

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My Opinion on Dec 27, 2018 at 8:01 pm

As the economy goes in the Tank in Alberta and B.C. it will only get worse. The last thing to die are always the Cockroaches.

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My Opinion on Dec 27, 2018 at 7:59 pm

Always spend your money locally. Money goes back into our community. Supports local jobs. Easy to check the product out before purchase. Know who to complain to if it is no good.

If it seems to good to be true, "it Absolutely is". Not probably.

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Thanks for sharing your experience as a warning on Dec 27, 2018 at 10:59 am

Lots of advice, apparently, as to what you could have/should have done. But I appreciate you telling of your experience so that others might avoid getting taken in. I hope you get your money back, and that these scammers are found.

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Tara on Dec 25, 2018 at 6:41 pm

Hang on here. Tammi was the victim. Could there of been more safety measures taken sure.....lesson learned. But as for the money it was a $600 deposit, not full price. As for Christmas maybe the dogs were the present, so the rest is stocking stuffers. So let’s not judge the statements, or re word the statements to say something negative just to say something negative. This sucks at any time.

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tc on Dec 24, 2018 at 6:23 pm

$600. was the deposit...not the full price

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Gringo on Dec 24, 2018 at 3:12 pm

With all the dogs needing a new lease on life at the Mae Backer Shelter and people are using Facebook in Alberta....crazy crazy.

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Jonathan Colby on Dec 24, 2018 at 3:02 pm

Wait.... how does money they were already going to spend "affect" the "couple's Christmas?"

Like... weren't they going to be out that money anyways? It literally states that they had to pare down their Christmas because of the scam, but the scam didn't take any more money from them that they weren't planning to spend? Merciful heavens!

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Dave on Dec 24, 2018 at 12:59 pm

It’s not just pets. Several years ago I was looking to buy a used pickup on Kijiji in Alberta but became suspicious when the online pictures of this supposed Calgary truck appeared to show Arizona licence plates. The sellers did not know where I lived and when I asked to set up an appointment to go see the truck they said unfortunately it was up in Whitehorse, Yukon at the time but I could send them a deposit to hold it until it got back to Calgary. Of course I wasn’t sending any deposit but I replied what a great coincidence since I live in Whitehorse and where was it so I could go see it here? After that I never heard another word back from them, I reported their scam to the police and Kijiji but was basically told buyer beware and that there are so many scams out there that there’s not much the police can do about them. All I can say is never send anyone cash sight unseen and certainly do not give out any private info when dealing with someone online.

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tnk on Dec 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm

Sad losing $600.00 but first off 2 ''multipoos'' for $600.00. These ''designer breeds'' as they call them now, are not cheap and any overly cheap dogs on facebook or online or where they are free and you just have to pay shipping, they are a scam. Second, multipoos are not necessarily going to be non allergenic even hypo allergenic breeds you have to meet the puppies in person a couple times to see if you have a reaction as you could be allergic to one puppies saliva in the litter and not another. And 3rd, if you want to buy a dog from a breeder, don't send them money over the internet. Meet the seller in person and see the parents also to enure they are healthy and in good condition to ensure you are not sending bad backyard or puppy mills your money. Lastly you would be much better off putting $600.00 dollars as a down payment towards a real breeder that has their dogs all health tested and is not a puppy mill or scam. Don't send money for a dog deposit online unless the person is a registered breeder who can be traced and has a real business.

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