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YTG, teachers' union headed to mediation

The Yukon's teachers' union and the government are preparing to enter into two days of mediation beginning Jan. 10 in the hopes of reaching a new collective agreement.

By Jason Unrau on January 5, 2010

The Yukon's teachers' union and the government are preparing to enter into two days of mediation beginning Jan. 10 in the hopes of reaching a new collective agreement.

Talks between the Yukon Teachers' Association (YTA) and the Public Service Commission reached an impasse last September over wage demands and classroom composition.

"We want to continue the talks and we want collective bargaining to continue,” YTA president Katherine Mackwood said today. "We have two days scheduled so far, so we'll roll up our sleeves and see what we can do going to mediation.”

The 750 educators the YTA represents have been without a collective agreement since last June 30, when the previous three-year deal expired.

Neither Mackwood nor Public Service Commissioner Patricia Daws would speak to where the respective sides are at, preferring to leave that for the bargaining table.

According to the terms of the mediation, all talks are to be confidential.

"There's no report out of mediation,” Liz McKee, director of policy for the commission, told the Star this morning. "It may or may not result in a collective agreement, but there is to be no report of the discussions.”

But this caveat does not guarantee the opposing sides will stick to the public information embargo. In September, Daws accused Mackwood of breaking a previous agreement not to discuss specifics of the negotiations in the press. This was after Mackwood told local media that teachers were seeking a nine-per-cent wage hike over two years.

A day earlier, on Sept. 17, Daws relayed in a press release that the stalemate was over money.

"Since it was clear at the bargaining table that the parties were not in the same settlement zone on monetary matters, the government does not believe that appointing a mediator would be of any assistance,” said Daws.

However, that decision was the YTA's to make and its members opted to go the mediation route, over conciliation or binding arbitration.

Already, Yukon teachers are among the highest-paid in Canada. The starting wage for a teacher in the territory fresh out of teachers' college with no classroom experience is $57,398 annually – nearly $20,000 more than the same person would earn teaching in British Columbia.

For the current 2009-2010 fiscal year, wages paid to teachers, education assistants, tutors, native language instructors and substitute teachers exceeded $61.5 million, which represents a four-per-cent increase over 2008-2009.

On top of salary demands, the teachers' union wants concerns over classroom sizes addressed.

In September, Mackwood told the Star that teachers are often tasked to do too much, and the status quo is contributing to dismal graduation rates Auditor General Sheila Fraser outlined in a January 2009 report.

"If you only have a certain amount of support in that class, i.e., one teacher, the individuals who need the support aren't getting it and neither are the other students ... it's paramount for our students to receive the education that they deserve,” Mackwood said.

Teachers are typically faced with class sizes of 23 to 24 students; upwards of 20 per cent of whom have learning or behaviour disabilities.

But Daws downplayed the union's assertion it was forced to negotiate more manageable classroom scenarios.

"One of the things that's important to us is class contact time – the amount of time that there's teachers with the students – which improves the ultimate results,” Daws said in September, responding to Mackwood's claims.

"One thing I can tell you is Yukon classrooms are among the smallest in Canada, with the average student to teacher ratio of 10-to-one.”

And according to Fraser's report, graduation rates in the Yukon are among the worst in the nation, with only 40 per cent of first nations students earning their Grade 12 diploma and just 58 per cent of all Yukon students achieving that milestone.

Whitehorse-born lawyer and academic Archie Zariski has been appointed to chair the mediation talks to commence next week.

Comments (14)

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Wayne Campbell on Jan 15, 2010 at 5:23 am

The posting by "anonymous" proves my point.

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angie joseph rear on Jan 15, 2010 at 4:21 am

Been there-done that. I worked a our local school and yes I agree the Educators earned and deserve their salary. Although I worked with students from K-5 we had big responsibilities where we encouraged parents to participate in as big- recess, lunch hour duties, etc. What about extra cuirricular activities as evening stay to coach soccers, volleyball, basketball and the list goes on. I commend the parents for being involved with your children.

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Anonymous on Jan 14, 2010 at 11:46 pm

I think alot of the problem isn't the teachers. I think what we need are special classes for students that have ADD and other learning disablilities. I find that by having special help for the troubled students would help by keeping them from distracting the other kids and keeping them from becoming frusterated and acting out. It's not a matter where the teacher aren't doing their jobs, it's a matter where our drop out rates are so high because many of the students who are dropping out are frusterated with school and don't know how to tell someone or do anything about it.

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anonymous on Jan 13, 2010 at 10:28 am

Well put Bernd, I was born and raised in whitehorse. I went to school in Whitehorse. I graduated in Whitehorse. I am also one of the students who had trouble in school but I had excellent help from 95% of the teachers and exceptional help from the Principal Mr. Huff, who I know was very greatly liked by all students, and he was always there ready to help you with anything you needed, even though he was principal not a Teacher ( at the time )

So all the people complaining about Teachers not doing there job - you should really look at if you are helping your children cause parents are just as responsible for their childrens education as teachers are (actually I highly believe parents roles are more important )

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Bernd Schmidt on Jan 11, 2010 at 10:52 am

My wife and I are immigrants to Canada.

English is our second language. We raised our family in a small home without running water and electricity from the grid and on a rather modest family income.

Our four children were born in Whitehorse, attended Yukon schools and were taught by Yukon teachers.

All four went on to university, one to Princeton on a scholarship, one to Stanford on a scholarship, and two attended UofC with enough money given to them that they did not have to worry about financing their degrees.

While they went to school they did not have part-time jobs at a fast food outlet, were not pre-occupied with insurance for the clunkers they drove and with bush parties, were rather reluctant with teenage "friendships", and they had parents who did their job parenting and did not expect school teachers to do the job for them.

They had supportive teachers throughout who refused to dumb down their charges but rather challenged their intellect. My family is extremely satisfied with the performance of Yukon teachers.

All those who are complaing about teachers and their salaries should try teaching in a public school themselves sometime; maybe they can do a better job for less money. Let's hire them.

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stop... on Jan 11, 2010 at 9:02 am

... teaching to the lowest common denominator. That alone would raise the quality of education for average or above average students. If teachers have to spend all their time on discipline or special needs, our children will never measure up.

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Kailey on Jan 11, 2010 at 12:07 am

After I graduated from the Yukon I had to upgrade at the College inorder to even meet the minimum standards for schooling outside of the Territory.

In all honesty, seeking education outside of the Territory is the only way to secure a real job with good pay.

I think the teachers need to stop crying for more money and start doing their jobs. Most students who need help don't get it and the only students that receive any attention from the teachers are the ones that do well on their own. Our school system is right backwards and it's just sad.

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btdt on Jan 7, 2010 at 2:47 pm

The public schools branch of Education is rife with hand picked dullards who couldn't find their arse with both hands. No real surprise that the end product (the few students that manage to graduate) mirror the incompetence of the bureaucracy.

Those who can't do, teach.

Those who can't teach, teach gym.

Those who can't teach gym, go work at the department.

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Wayne Campbell on Jan 7, 2010 at 3:46 am

Here we go again. Yukon teachers are not fulfilling their job of educating students. It's almost impossible NOT to graduate from grade 12, yet teachers (not students) cannot care enough to ensure students make the grade. For a student to navigate the Yukon public school system and be able to continue on to post-secondary education is a monumental task for the students, and their parents. Post-secondary does not mean up-grading at Yukon College.

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francias pillman on Jan 6, 2010 at 3:17 pm

I suggest all teachers take a 25% pay cut, retroactive to 1996.

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Arn Anderson on Jan 6, 2010 at 7:24 am

High School diploma a milestone? Thats a laugh and a half. High schools are one of the most useless institutions in the nation, or one of the biggest daycare facilities in the world.

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Dan Davidson on Jan 5, 2010 at 3:16 pm

YTG has traditionally been unable to settle with teachers without going to either mediation or arbitration. This is almost not news, just standard operating procedure for the Dept. of Education.

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Joel on Jan 5, 2010 at 9:17 am

The numbers are skewed, but there are still average class sizes even in the 2 full schools in the territory...not quite any school in Whitehorse.

This is about money for the highest paid in the country. If the numbers supported their claim for more money, I would feel simpathetic...but with the fail rate beating the grad rate that is not right. Maybe we need a special program for the disabled since there are so many of them.

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Anthony on Jan 5, 2010 at 8:19 am

Pat Daws says:

"One thing I can tell you is Yukon classrooms are among the smallest in Canada, with the average student to teacher ratio of 10-to-one."

Hogwash! Those numbers are drastically skewed by the schools in the communities where in Old Crow or Kluane Lake you may have only one or two students per grade. Take a walk through any Whitehorse school and that is clearly not the case. Whitehorse Elementary and Elijah Smith Schools are both bursting at the seams with both schools turning kids away each September for the last few years.

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