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Energy, Mines and Resources Minister John Streicker
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Energy, Mines and Resources Minister John Streicker
Energy, Mines and Resources Minister John Streicker says the government is looking at four options to handle the growing agitation over Yukoners’ electrical bills.
Energy, Mines and Resources Minister John Streicker says the government is looking at four options to handle the growing agitation over Yukoners’ electrical bills.
During question period in the legislature Monday, Streicker mentioned the government is still working on the situation in co-operation with ATCO Electric Yukon.
Late last month, Streicker announced a $150 rebate will be given to every account holder in the territory over a three-month period.
That was an interim measure, he said at the time, with more assistance in the offing.
The rebate was offered after public complaints surfaced about the bills, and the Yukon NDP demanding answers as to why ATCO was permitted to over-earn on its profits.
In March, Emily Tredger, an NDP MLA, asked why ATCO was being allowed to exceed its nine-per-cent profit margin, which is set by the Yukon Utilities Board, without having to adjust its rates.
Since then, the NDP has been pressuring the government on the issue. Party representatives have suggested what is needed is a rate review.
Speaking to reporters on Monday afternoon, Streicker agreed that is the case, and has been for “four or five years” with no rate review.
He couldn’t explain why action hadn’t been taken before.
He has been in the portfolio for just less than a year, and until the complaints surfaced, electrical bills weren’t something that had drawn his attention.
While the government doesn’t set the rates, Streicker noted, it does have the ability to request a review at any point if concerns arise.
Many Yukoners grumbled this past winter about steep increases in their power bills.
In past weeks, Streicker has emphasized the increases are not due to rising rates.
Instead, as he did Monday, Streicker attributed the boosts to cold weather, and an unusual glitch in the way ATCO billed customers over the Christmas-New Year’s holiday period.
He even suggested Monday the bills rose over the winter due to COVID-19 restrictions, which kept people home more than normal, using more energy.
Streicker was challenged by a reporter as to whether ATCO has the authority to change billing periods arbitrarily. He seemed taken aback by the question, and said he didn’t know, but would follow up.
He also said he had checked into the argument that riders – also know as surcharges – were responsible for some of the increases in bills. He had concluded that wasn’t the case.
Streicker said he has been speaking with ATCO vice-president Jay Massie on a regular basis. The company is looking into what it can do about the higher bills on its own without having to go to hearings, the minister said.
“I know they are thinking about ways to do this directly.”
Streicker said a rate review hasn’t been ruled out. He’s also contemplating a more informal process where input from both the company and the public would be gathered in something like a public meeting session or sessions.
“You’d come up with a more negotiated approach with the public and get all that feedback and then we hand it over to the utility board,” Streicker said.
“We don’t set the rates, the board does.”
That would “expedite the process,” he added. “It is an important issue.
“The rates have not increased over the last couple of years,” Streicker emphasized. “I know we have the lowest electricity rates in the North, but I also know that right now, there’s pressure on everybody, especially with the cost of fuel going up.”
Streicker said ATCO’s profits have been rising due to the sheer rate of growth in the territory rather to any increase in rates or riders.
“The profits are higher; that’s correct. We have had this conversation with ATCO.”
The first option was to offer the “inflationary rebate”, Streicker said. It’s possible that could continue in some form.
He appeared somewhat annoyed when asked what he thinks of the public reaction to the $150 rebate. Social media, in particular, showed a less-than-positive response.
Streicker said the Yukon Chamber of Commerce has thanked him for the rebate, and he’s heard from other Yukoners who are appreciative of the concept.
NDP Leader Kate White scoffed at Streicker’s comments.
“ATCO has come out said they’re doing really well right now. They have said they are over-earning.
“The only way to do this is with a rate review. What we’re saying is for the government to use your power to ask for a rate review. ATCO is willing to do it, so let’s get it done.”
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Comments (46)
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YD on Apr 11, 2022 at 10:18 am
Nathan Living,
I am not using that much electricity out of choice. I would argue that many people living in Riverdale and Porter Creek homes are living in older units that were never built to be heat efficient. Almost all of the electric I use is to heat the house to a barely (and sometimes not even) comfortable level in the winter time. In summer my electric bill is almost nothing.
Could I completely renovate the house to make it heat efficient? Perhaps if I had a spare $75,000.
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Nathan Living on Apr 8, 2022 at 4:48 pm
@ YD on Apr 7, 2022
Yes $700 per month for a 5 month period is way too high.
Think you have to assess why it's that high because you are using about 3 times more electrical power than many people.
I would not want to pay that much for sure.
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Groucho d'North on Apr 8, 2022 at 8:55 am
I might be wrong, but as I understand it, the revenue from the rates flow to Atco and the revenue from all the riders flow to Yukon government. So if they really wanted to improve affordability, they could make the changes themselves without rate hearings and all the other distractive BS.
But as I said, I might be wrong.
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Mitch Holder on Apr 7, 2022 at 3:44 pm
@ Jake - clean up the mine sites first, then we'll talk. 100 plus million capital venture for this territory right there, we even have a university where locals could receive the appropriate education to spearhead this ourselves. I don't disagree with the potential for nuclear, I just think it would be nice to clean up some broken promises before we break some more. Also, people burned wood for thousands of years and if that really made adifference, we'd already be dead.
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Ordinary Joe on Apr 7, 2022 at 2:26 pm
The YP and NDP just voted down having officials from YEC appearing in the Legislature to answer questions as has been the custom for decades. Why? Because they don't want Yukoners to hear the facts. Facts that would contradict what most of you in this forum wrongfully believe.
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YukonMax on Apr 7, 2022 at 10:35 am
@Jake...No thank you. Faroites are saying "keep them in the Whitehorse mining district" and please re-appatriate the 6 generators you sent us. Leave us alone.
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Jim on Apr 7, 2022 at 10:21 am
Open your eyes people! The Liberals government(s) will do nothing to lower your cost of living. They are more than happy to see gas and oil at sky high prices. That’s in their mandate. Rather than giving relief at the pumps or in your home heating fuel, they would rather you spend even more money on Reno’s and EVs and use tax dollars as an incentive to go deeper in debt. For seniors on a fixed income none of these programs help.
Fuel oil for your furnace has approached $1.90 a litre. Did they hold off on their April fools carbon tax increase? No, instead they offer $50 off your electric bill for 3 months in the summer. How about the fact that NWT got an exemption for carbon tax on heating oil when all this started. And don’t start with the revenue neutral BS. If your heating an average sized house with oil, the rebate won’t even cover that, let alone if you drive a car, or buy anything that is trucked in. Which by the way is almost everything. If you maintain a dwelling and eat, the 5.7% inflation rate is not even in the ball park.
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YD on Apr 7, 2022 at 10:18 am
Nathan Living, could you live with $700+/month? I use electricity modestly (keeping our home barely warm enough) and my bill has been my average electric bill for months. It would have been even more if not for the firewood I was burning (which is also very, very expensive).
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YD on Apr 7, 2022 at 10:12 am
My average ATCO bill was over $700/month over the last five months, even though I mainly used wood heat during the coldest weeks. ATCO prices are unaffordable, outrageous, and need to be better regulated.
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Mitch Holder on Apr 7, 2022 at 9:36 am
@ A charged charge of charging charges....excellent, glad you caught that.
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Ordinary Joe on Apr 6, 2022 at 8:43 pm
"Social media, in particular, showed a less-than-positive response."
If the reporter is referring to this forum, that reference then is a joke.
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North_of_60 on Apr 6, 2022 at 6:27 pm
Don't waste our tax dollars on EV chargers, solar panels, batteries and wind turbines that only provide intermittent power when we don't need it.
Instead use that tax rebate money to remove the riders on our electric bills. The basic energy charge is reasonable, but it's the riders that double the bill.
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Jake on Apr 6, 2022 at 3:51 pm
Where did I just see Einsteins famous quote;
"We can't solve our problems using the same thinking that created them"?
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Jake on Apr 6, 2022 at 3:45 pm
We spent millions improving power distribution Yukon-wide. A small reactor in the Minto pit, the Faro pit, and a few other would be able to feed right on site and back-feed the whole grid.
Of course a few outspoken minorities would rather just spout rhetoric focuson old biases and ignore new technologies and need.
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Mike on Apr 6, 2022 at 3:45 pm
It's funny how this government calls it a agitation when in fact it's a complete rip off, all winter doublewide well insulated trailer 460.00 on average per month no where else in Canada is that possible. And this looking into it stuff is horse crap as well. High gas prices isn't Putin it's Trudeau. High food prices - Trudeau, high taxes - Trudeau, and signing a contract with the Philippines for the Yukon well that's just Silver, Trudeau's little puppet master. Can't house the people up here already so let's bring in more people to take away jobs from our children who went to school to graduate so their jobs can be handed to a foreigner. Beautiful diversity there Silver. Your party of fools has destroyed the moral of this Territory and this country.
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Tired of everything on Apr 6, 2022 at 3:24 pm
I see the Shinra Electric power company is at it again.
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Juniper Jackson on Apr 6, 2022 at 2:37 pm
Groucho d'North You nailed it. Silver has been hiring Ontario Liberals by the bus loads, and they brought all their crap with them. The selection boards choose outsiders over Yukon College grads in all the support jobs, any of the DMs 'Yukoners' now?
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bonanzajoe on Apr 6, 2022 at 11:39 am
I'm all for Small modular reactors (SMRs). This would solve all our energy needs. Just keep them away from rivers and creeks. Perhaps on a mountain. Grey Mountain?
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Dallas on Apr 6, 2022 at 10:42 am
Atco has gotta recoup the bribe money they gave to First Nations in the interior of BC for the ability to put up a camp for the TMX pipeline, no bs it’s in the news. lol
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Crunch on Apr 6, 2022 at 9:56 am
I can guarantee you that ATCO is doing nothing shady that is not in the agreement which has been co-authored to by the PUB and signed by YG. When homeowners are upset the electrical conglomerate gets the heat but that is not the problem. You guys suck at negotiating. Period.
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Wilf Carter on Apr 6, 2022 at 9:33 am
Socialism at its finest!!!
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Groucho d'North on Apr 6, 2022 at 9:32 am
I find the parallels to be concerning. The Ontario Liberals under Kathleen Wynne came under extreme criticism for their managment of electrical service in Ontario, some believe it cost them an election.
“People have told me that they’ve had to choose between paying the electricity bill and buying food or paying rent,” the Ontario premier told her fellow Liberals over the weekend. “That is unacceptable to me. It is unacceptable that people in Ontario are facing that choice. Our government made a mistake. It was my mistake.”
Many of those former Ontario Liberal govenment employees are now working for the Silver Liberals. A coincidense?
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/the-five-sins-behind-kathleen-wynnes-power-failure/
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Wilf Carter on Apr 6, 2022 at 9:31 am
Why are liberals blocking people from sending emails on subjects like this. My MLA Richard M is doing that.
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P.Eng. on Apr 6, 2022 at 8:02 am
A few years ago, an Outside consortium approached YEC with the proposal that they would build and operate/maintain a small nuclear power plant and seek the power to YEC.
YEC told them they weren't in the business of buying power.
Inspired leadership we can all be proud of.
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Northerner on Apr 5, 2022 at 9:54 pm
Forget the rebates or other tactic's... remove the bloody riders. Something like 30-40% of my bill is riders. Remove those and if ATCO can't make enough money off of the rate, then adjust the rate. But this idea that they get to tack on riders when past years were not as successful as desired, while also getting to make bank when things are good is absurd. Right now they're having their cake and eating it too. Which is great for a business, but sucks for everyone else.
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A charged didactic of charging so Yukoners can charge… on Apr 5, 2022 at 9:01 pm
For Mitch Holder on Apr 5, 2022 at 4:41 pm:
Perfect - they walk among us… The reference to the UK True Crime TV program is absolutely brilliant!
I agree, it’s hard to say which robbery was greater… The one in which they lost their minds or the one in which they lost the public trust?
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Charlie's Aunt on Apr 5, 2022 at 7:20 pm
@ Moose101; You are comparing apples & oranges, COL in Yellowknife is more expensive but income and taxation is different as well. For most of us the issue isn't the cost per KWH but the fact that ATCO is making > 9% profit. Meanwhile we have over 43% added to basic energy charge as Yukon Energy Shortfall Rider. I don't know all the ins and outs but seems to me there is something wrong with that picture, why is Yukon Energy in shortfall if ATCO is making XS profit? The Economist in other paper has an interesting article about the cost of going green in our present situation. If we want to go green then we have to explore alternative energy sources, otherwise it's a joke.
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Nathan Living on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:46 pm
Our highest monthly bill came in at $208. We can live with that.
If you heat your home with electrical power you can expect higher bills in the winter when it's cold.
People have to live more modestly, the government cannot continue to give money away which just increases our national debt.
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Holy f@$% on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:39 pm
What the hell is there to study?! Stop ripping off people!
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bonanzajoe on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:37 pm
Thomas Brewer. Yeah, we serfs are lucky if we get one half of one percent on our savings. It's just not fair. Maybe more public non violent demonstrators like the truckers did in Ottawa is what we need. These elected officials need a real wake up call.
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bonanzajoe on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:32 pm
Matthew. And notice that those who legislate and enforce the laws on the nation's people are some of the richest in the country who can afford everything.
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bonanzajoe on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:30 pm
I have a question for the City government. Why do the Christmas lights have to be burning 24/7? This is the first week of April, The lights should have been turned off two months ago. I know they are LEDs but still when you have over a million burning 24/7, the cost to taxpayers is Exorbitant. The Christmas lights should be on from Dec.1 to Jan.31. Two months is enough. Especially in this day and age with everything going up. So, just think of the money that can be saved. Not too long ago, the government was telling us to conserve on electricity. How about setting an example. Mayor and councillors, are you listening?
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bonanzajoe on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:23 pm
I think 150 dollars a month rebate is quite generous for most households. But I also think in the long run, the price of electricity should be lowered. And let's face it, there are many people who waste electricity. I do not have more than one room lit up at any time. When I leave a room, I shut off the light. Also, I turn down the heat at night. Those who have children of course need to keep the heat up for them, but for themselves they can save by turning it down in their bedrooms. People have to use logic in this case.
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Oya on Apr 5, 2022 at 5:08 pm
@ Charlie's Aunt GREAT QUESTION!
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Mitch Holder on Apr 5, 2022 at 4:41 pm
How are these representatives this agonizingly stupid and still able to walk among us without shame?
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Charlie's Aunt on Apr 5, 2022 at 4:39 pm
I still want to know the rationale for the extra charge for using more than 1,000 KWH/month when electric heat and electric vehicles are being pushed. Nice idea to hope people will cut back on consumption but a family of four in an electrically heated home would find this impossible with all the hot water needed for showers, laundry and dishes.
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Moose101 on Apr 5, 2022 at 4:29 pm
Move to Yellowknife 38 cents per kw compared to the 18 cents per kw we pay in Whitehorse.
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Going broke on Apr 5, 2022 at 4:00 pm
Oh i know what they should do, sit back relax and tell us it's our fault and that us Yukoners are all uber rich and can afford all the raising costs. Suck it up people, these companies need those profits more that you need to eat or pay for heat. $150.00 rebate woop, woop I'm set for the year now, YG just paid 10% of one power bill!!. We have been saved!!!
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Thomas Brewer on Apr 5, 2022 at 3:29 pm
I'd sure like to make a guaranteed 9%+ on my investments.... this is simply unacceptable removal of money from the working masses being put into corporate hands.
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Groucho d'North on Apr 5, 2022 at 2:44 pm
The electrical rates could be adjusted, but I believe removing the rider charges on the monthly bill would satisfy the majority of rate payers.
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Liar, liar, pants on fire of course your so called representatives conspire! on Apr 5, 2022 at 2:42 pm
Rather than relying on the anecdotal and biased accounts of politicians on the rebate issue how about we put all proposed solutions onto a ballot and letting everyone vote on it. Actually make it a legal requirement that you must vote on the issue.
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Mitch Holder on Apr 5, 2022 at 2:31 pm
Wait until you have to plug in your federally mandated EV, you think it hurts now...
Isn't the environment fun kids? And to think, all you will have to give up is everything, While China surpasses you in every way. Social justice.
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AdmiralA$$ on Apr 5, 2022 at 2:27 pm
LoL "Inflationary Rebate" government is going to solve higher prices with more inflation. I know, the answer to higher costs is to increase the cost of government, seems legit. This only proves these people have no idea what rises prices or why it is even happening. Free lunch is never free but here in the Yukon we can convince government to pay because lunch cost too much I guess. Next time the price might be lower because you know...science.
False money is false hope, if your worried about prices now have no fear, they will be much higher in two more years. Really starting to feel for people on fixed incomes right now, times they are going to get tough. This is the tip of an inflationary iceberg, statements like the ones in this article prove just how confused our government is on this issue. The solution to big government and big government debt is not bigger government but, that is all these people seem to understand.
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Donna Gratton on Apr 5, 2022 at 2:03 pm
What is moderation ?
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Donna Gratton on Apr 5, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Maybe electric cars ?
Maybe big business Gouging consumers?
Maybe Yukon Government (Liberals pushing their emissions bill)
Getting rid of Fossil fuels
I think this electric hike is just the beginning
Only the Liberals know for sure
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Matthew on Apr 5, 2022 at 1:49 pm
Stop the rebates and printing money! Let us get on with this MASSIVE recession on the horizon! This liberal ideology of printing money to fix problems is EXACTLY why we are in serious mess. Besides, plenty of options for free and clean energy, they just don't want it because petroleum industry would collapse overnight, they'd rather have a long drawn out process while they eat away at your savings by more and higher taxes.. classic politics..