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Whistle Bend's full transfer to city delayed

Interim Liberal leader Sandy Silver was set to continue questioning ministers in the legislature this afternoon on the state of infrastructure in Whitehorse's newest subdivision.

By Stephanie Waddell on December 12, 2012

Interim Liberal leader Sandy Silver was set to continue questioning ministers in the legislature this afternoon on the state of infrastructure in Whitehorse's newest subdivision.

During question period Tuesday, Silver questioned Community Services Minister Elaine Taylor about the situation.

He said the city is refusing to take back the infrastructure for the neighbourhood from the Yukon government because repairs are required.

The city typically takes over infrastructure like roads, water and sewer lines after a developer is finished with the work.

In this case, the government is the developer and lots went on sale this fall.

There were fewer people interested than officials anticipated, with some critics questioning the prices and the lots' sizes.

In an interview early this afternoon, Dan Boyd, the assistant deputy minister of building safety and infrastructure development, acknowledged there are some "deficiencies” in the neighbourhood but they're not uncommon for a new development.

He noted he doesn't have specifics on the matter, as it falls under another staffer's workload who was not available for comment.

Boyd spoke generally, stating that some infrastructure in the neighbourhood has been turned over to the city, but other parts haven't.

Some issues have been found in certain areas that may require sections of road to be dug up.

It's not unusual to find deficiencies after infrastructure has been put in place, he said.

"This is normal,” Boyd said, noting that once infrastructure is in, camera work is done to look at any issues.

In this case, issues have been found with the waste water and water circulation pump stations, as well as some water and sewer lines.

It's not known yet whether roads will have to be dug up to deal with the issues.

Boyd noted the systems can still operate and won't require immediate work to be done through the winter. It can wait until spring.

The government is working with its contractor to rectify the issues, said Boyd.

He did not have an estimate on how much the repair work will cost.

It's expected the city will accept the infrastructure by the end of the year, he said.

Throughout his questioning Tuesday in the legislature, Silver argued that rushing the development in the interest of getting lots to the market resulted in the problems which will now have to be corrected.

Throughout the questioning, Taylor continually pointed to the land development protocol between the territory and city.

She noted that more than 111 lots were put on the market in the first phase of Whistle Bend and that the government is looking forward to developing future phases of the neighbourhood.

The interim Liberal leader doesn't buy it.

Based on what he's heard from a number of sources, Silver said this morning, "It sounds like a real mess”.

He pointed to issues with the fill, piping and plumbing. He also noted he would hate to see the city take over the infrastructure and end up facing lawsuits over it.

City officials were contacted Tuesday afternoon by the Star, but did not return calls by press time this afternoon.

Comments (5)

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Brice Carruthers on Dec 14, 2012 at 2:26 am

Everyone is a Monday Morning Quarterback or an Arm Chair General on these message boards. It cracks me up. None of you folks on here have any knowledge of engineering, contracting, or land planning. There are always deficiencies on every job that need to be repaired before final hand-off. It was no different with Copper Ridge.

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north_of_60 on Dec 13, 2012 at 9:21 am

The sites had to be cleared and fill brought in because the 'engineers' hired from outside made serious mistakes in the design of the sewage system. The taxpayers who paid for this monumental screw-up deserve to know the full truth. Too bad the Yukon doesn't have whistle-blower legislation. The people who know what happened are not going to endanger their jobs by speaking out.

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Guncache on Dec 13, 2012 at 1:06 am

"Some critics questioning the prices and lot sizes". Whistle Bend is a real mess. The lot sizes would be fine if you were in a third world country. They make the lots in Copper Ridge look huge. With the amount of land in "the" Yukon there is no reason to squeeze people onto these postage stamp lots. If you have a travel trailer, boat etc. there will be no room to put them. Once you manage to finance your life to purchase a small lot there is no money left to build your house. Absolutely unreasonable. It is to bad that the people responsible for designing this mess, whether City or YG employees, are not elected officials that could be booted out of their office.

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Just Say'in on Dec 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm

This whole thing is an absolute disaster. It was all to be kept pristine and they leveled it??? They brought in about ten feet of fill. All lots will never be compacted enough, let alone the roads and below ground infrastucture. Lots are way, way to small. No one will buy them, and contractors will be stuck with this wasteland. What a shame! Traffic circles everywhere that cost a fortune for snow removal and maintenance. Why do we not hold them responsible? Is it maybe because most everyone here works for the Government? hmmmm.

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north_of_60 on Dec 12, 2012 at 9:18 am

Wasteland Bend is a perfect example of what happens when you go with the lowest bidder and get designs from outside engineers who haven't a clue about northern reality.

The whole project should be thoroughly scrutinized by an independent review panel.

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