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Leah Libsekal and Bill Jenkins

Whistle Bend will need expensive road changes

The city could end up spending anywhere between $20 million and $30 million on fixing up and building roads to accommodate the upcoming Whistle Bend subdivision.

By Stephanie Waddell on June 15, 2009

The city could end up spending anywhere between $20 million and $30 million on fixing up and building roads to accommodate the upcoming Whistle Bend subdivision.

The money would be spent on everything from making Mountainview Drive a four-lane road to building an access road between the Porter Creek neighbourhood and Range Road.

On Friday, officials with the city and consultant AECOM unveiled the city's most recent transportation study which looked at how the city's next major area for development on the Porter Creek lower bench would impact traffic throughout the city and what would be needed to handle the new volumes.

"It really impacts the entire city," AECOM's Bill Jenkins said, citing Mountainview Drive, Range Road and the Alaska Highway among the roads that will see the most impact.

Using current information and the number of projected residences for Whistle Bend, AECOM created traffic simulations for the neighbourhood, looking at how traffic would be moving when Whistle Bend starts up, then when it is halfway done, and finally when it is fully developed.

It also looked at the different possibilities for full population of the neighbourhood at 10,000, 7,500 and 5,000 people.

It was found that as the main corridor between Whistle Bend and the downtown core, Mountainview would see enough traffic to justify its being widened to accommodate four lanes, with more traffic signals at various intersections on the road.

"There is a new access proposed," Jenkins told reporters, stressing the proposed access, about 150 to 200 metres from Tamarack Drive, would not impact McIntyre Creek.

The access would be built in a way that it could connect to another proposal that would see an access built between Mountainview Drive and the Alaska Highway from Pine Street to Kopper King.

As Jenkins pointed out, the growth of Whistle Bend is not going to happen overnight - it's proposed to be done in nine phases - and, like the development improvements to roads leading to the neighbourhood, would be spread over time.

Even with lower population sizes than the 10,000 initially proposed for a full build-out of the area, AECOM's Leah Libsekal said the study found the city's major roads would suffer significantly, with travel times for residents using them increasing.

"People would have to sit and wait at intersections," she said.

Much of the focus on Whistle Bend has been on sustainability, with the city moving toward a neighbourhood that has a higher density, is pedestrian-friendly and encourages transit use.

The study proposed the plans anticipating a more efficient transit system with more users, Jenkins said.

As the city moves ahead with the first two phases of zoning on the subdivision - up for first reading at tonight's council meeting - officials will be reviewing the report and its recommendations, city manager Dennis Shewfelt said.

It's likely any recommendations from the study would come forward as the development continues, depending on the needs at the time.

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baffled on Jun 17, 2009 at 8:14 am

I am still confused about where all these people are coming from that we have a housing shortage here. I know I have seen in my neighbourhood, 3 new duplexes go up in the last year and people are moved into these houses before they are even finished. There is not even a for sale sign on them at all! And I can't believe that there are hardly any places up for sale (I'm not looking) Could the divorce rate be that high up here? Not only are there 2 or more cars per family, but now there are 2 houses per family as well?

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YouMeUs on Jun 17, 2009 at 3:54 am

Putting aside the who's gonna live there questions, I fail to see how a new road through a forest is required, when there are two roads already leading to the new area.

And why such a concern for new roads when apparently there is little appetite at the City for expanding downtown parking? Where are all those people driving the widened and new roads going to park?

Pick a strategy, plan properly, and implement it. Why does it seem that there is simply no cohesion to planning in this city?

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Arn Anderson on Jun 16, 2009 at 3:13 am

"People would have to sit and wait at intersections," she said.

This is the way I prefer to see it, people DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE IN THIS TOWN. So let them sit there and make the driving noises through thier mouth. Vroom vroom

Build them some pedestrain roundabouts because thats all people seem to do in this town, walk around in circles saying "YES, gimme more things that dont work but I dont buy plastic bags so my conciense is free!!!"

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Doug Rutherford on Jun 15, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Let me settle one thing here. What simpleton actually believes that Whitehorse's population is going to increase by 10,000 people in the foreseeable future? I have trouble with the low end estimate of an increase of 5,000 in the next 10 years.

It seems to me that the approach to take is rather simplistic, but effective. If the city can afford to develop the beginning of the project, do so. If the development costs are too high in the future, don't.

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Gerry on Jun 15, 2009 at 3:59 pm

Dear god council is thick headed. All of a sudden they discover more people = more traffic. Look at the *cough* 4 lane Hamilton Blvd. First they cut it back to 3 lanes, then added a traffic circle. Two lanes up, one lane down?!?!?! At least if the downtown catches fire everyone can rush up the hill to the dead end. The preference should be two lanes going downtown with no circle but rather lights and yes, speed increased. It is a divided boulevard essentially flat and straight. Eventually this will be a feeder for the 'Beyond Copper Ridge' development. The Whistelbend comment around transit is laughable. In Copper Ridge some 4 year old houses are still better than 1.5 kms from a bus stop. You'll get no public buy in with that kind of transit 'planning'.

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Francias Pillman on Jun 15, 2009 at 10:16 am

I beg to ask the question of where is this town coming up with this money? Second, what industry will support all these new homes? There's less people working in the yukon since last. I bet 95% of all those new homes will be social housing. The message is clear, the less you do with your life the more the yukon goverment will help you achieve those goals. Free homes for all, but if you are from a middle class background, good luck.

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