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Whistle Bend, facility are a good fit: premier

In light of further skepticism in regards to the planned continuing care facility to be built in Whistle Bend, the Yukon NDP has taken matters into its own hands

By Aimee O'Connor on July 16, 2015

In light of further skepticism in regards to the planned continuing care facility to be built in Whistle Bend, the Yukon NDP has taken matters into its own hands and planned what the public has been waiting for – a public town hall meeting.

As well, the party has started to circulate a petition demanding the government reconsider building the facility in Whistle Bend.

A criticism of the facility heard time and time again – in the legislative assembly and on the streets – is that the construction of a 150-bed complex was planned and decided on without the input of Yukoners.

“Consultation is the cornerstone of our democracy, but the Yukon Party seems to be afraid of what they might hear,” NDP Leader Liz Hanson said in a statement about the pending public meeting.

But Premier Darrell Pasloski sees the issue a bit differently.

“The determination to build the facility was based on a needs-assessment,” he said in an interview today. He was speaking from St. John’s, where he’s taking part in the annual premiers’ meeting (see story, p. 5).

“Public consultation doesn’t determine whether we need (a facility),” he told the Star.

Pasloski said that going forward, public consultation will come into play in shaping the design of what the two-storey building will look like.

“A Yukon NDP government would listen to Yukoners before – not after – the planning process wraps up,” Hanson said.

“This town hall meeting is an example of how we would do things differently,” added Hanson.

“I look forward to a robust and frank discussion about what we can – and should – do to ensure that our seniors and elders can choose the best possible care for their circumstances, be it home care or continuing care, as they age.”

This meeting, however, will not be held until Sept. 16 – which might be too late if people wish to have aspects of the facility altered.

The last public hearing in regards to the Whistle Bend facility was held on March 9, when city council was debating an essential zoning change for a piece of land near Keno Way that would enable the project to move forward.

Just five residents appeared at the public meeting – a seemingly low turnout.

Of the residents who spoke, several concerns were raised regarding the facility, including its size being too big, potential traffic problems and the facility not fitting into the “original vision” for Whistle Bend.

Days later, a Yukon Party press release quashed the former concern by stating, “By choosing Whistle Bend, the facility will be integrated into a growing subdivision and will complement the overall plan for the area.”

The rezoning was approved during the March 23 city council meeting, passing with a vote of 5-1.

Coun. Betty Irwin was the only one to vote against the motion.

Irwin said at the time it felt as though the government was pushing the city against the wall with the decision because of the urgency of finding much-needed beds for seniors on a growing waitlist for continuing care. She had asked for more details about the project, including a list of other locations that had been considered before Whistle Bend was selected.

“What we need to remember is that we heard these exact same issues and concerns (in regards to) Copper Ridge Place,” Pasloski added.

“And here we are, 15 years later, we have a centre that fits well into the community.”

The picking of Whistle Bend as the future home for the facility, Pasloski said, was due to its size and a pressing need to get the project moving.

“We needed to have a facility (on) a piece of land that we could expand.”

Asked why other parcels of land– such as the 56-hectare former tank farm site near Valleyview – were dismissed as possible locations despite their expandable size, Pasloski said it came down to a “pressing need” to get the facility plans moving.

If the government had waited to determine whether areas like the tank farm could have been deemed appropriate sites for the facility, he said, it would have added another year or two to the project.

On June 8, Health Minister Mike Nixon announced that three teams were shortlisted to proceed with creating proposals to design and build the facility.

Once proposals from all three businesses are received and evaluated, the government will select and award a design build contract.

Since 2003, the home care budget in the territory has risen about 350 per cent to $5.6 million along with the aging Yukon population– the fastest-growing age group in the territory.

In this year’s budget, $26 million was set aside to go toward the project.

It is the largest capital project the government has taken on since the construction of the Alaska Highway.

“Consultation is the cornerstone of our democracy, but the Yukon Party seems to be afraid of what they might hear,” said Hanson.

“Whether it’s the Peel watershed, fracking or continuing care, Darrell Pasloski and the Yukon Party government continue to tell Yukoners what they think is best – no matter what the public says.”

In pursuit of answers as to why other locations for the facility were dismissed, Whitehorse resident Tamara Goeppel used an access to information request to seize hordes of email exchanges and briefing notes between government officials and technical advisors that were sent throughout the location selection process for the facility.

In order of best location to worst, a report prepared by the property management division of the Department of Highways and Public Works put Porter Creek at the top, then Riverdale, followed by Copper Ridge and finally, Whistle Bend.

On April 9, senior management gave instructions to strike Porter Creek, Riverdale and Copper Ridge off of the possible locations list.

It is unclear from the report as to why those three locations were eliminated from the list.

The report provides a summary of data which showed that Whistle Bend had potential for higher costs for building due to its silty soil, water table and potential for frost heaving.

Comments (13)

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A good fit? on Jul 21, 2015 at 10:34 am

Of course it will be a 'good fit', now Bend over and Whistle.

"We know what's best for you."

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Yukon 56 on Jul 17, 2015 at 8:14 pm

Brian, don't dump on foreign workers. They fill a void that our Yukon population are unwilling to do

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Lost in the Yukon on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:14 pm

Dear Brian: your comment "we need a place to put our elders" speaks volumes for how you view seniors/elders.

I'm going to take a stab at it and guess your favorite movie is Soylent Green.

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Lost in the Yukon on Jul 17, 2015 at 3:24 pm

1. The Premier's intransigence on this issue is a good thing for the Opposition both Federal and Territorial. Stick with it Mr. Premier, please don't show you are capable of sober second thought or capable of admitting you may have blown it.

2. ... and while we're at it, that you have learned nothing from the Peel and what consultation means.

All that we ask is that you do not, through any means seek to have the ADM of Continuing Care punished for telling the truth. We will be watching what you or the DM of Health does to her over the next several months,

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SDD on Jul 17, 2015 at 2:35 pm

That location is not good for the subdivision nor the care facility when you think of it from a geo-fluvial and emergency perspective. If the water table ever rises or the dam ever breaks, watch out... all that money spent down there will be under water. What is the emergency response and insurance contingency? Should everything be built on stilts or raised ground in prep for a 100 year flood?

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YukonMax on Jul 17, 2015 at 11:18 am

Can't help but notice the different term used to name the future users. The "residents" which totally exclude anyone from the communities. "A Yukon NDP government would listen to Yukoners before. " How? At a Whitehorse Town Meeting? This is more of a Whitehorse political grandstand then it is for the good of ALL Yukoners.

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ProScience Greenie on Jul 16, 2015 at 10:06 pm

Come on Paz, back off, nobody wants that facility up there.
Good on Liz for fighting this but she shouldn't be wagging her finger at anybody about consultation and democracy after all those years of being a big cheese with the very undemocratic and dictatorial DIAND.

Tons of room up behind the hospital with a good view so build it there. Move some dirt and get at it.
As far as staffing goes, let's end this recent YTG trend of having more managers than real workers.

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north_of_60 on Jul 16, 2015 at 8:31 pm

The true story of Wasteland Bend will come out before the next election. They know they'll have egg-on-the-face when it happens. That's why the government is trying to railroad this project. The people making these decisions know that their fat government pensions insure that they will never have to live in the Wasteland Bend Seniors Warehouse. "We know what's best for you."

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June Jackson on Jul 16, 2015 at 8:13 pm

"DARRYL for PHARMACIST" because he is really a crappy leader.

Canada and the Yukon.. really needs some kind of impeachment process, where we can fire anyone we elect. Darryl and cohorts would have been out on their ear a long time ago, or..not.. perhaps, knowing they can be removed from office, they would not be governing like nazi's in a dictatorship. We the people.. can't stop them and they rule roughshod over the populace.

I really hate being helpless to a ruthless government. And make no doubt about it, look at how they are governing the territory.. they are ruthless. and I sure hope the NDP puts someone besides Liz in the drivers seat..that the Liberals come up with some one who is trustworthy and honest.. that at the end of the election we have a leader and council I can be proud of. Maybe there will be a few independents appear to give us all a better choice. In any case, Mickey Mouse would be a step up from what we have right now.

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Groucho d'North on Jul 16, 2015 at 7:12 pm

While I can appreciate that this topic is a tantalizing issue for the opposition and those who do not like the current administration to use as a club, but as a tax payer I would like to know what the options in Porter Creek and the other potential land plots where. What were the costs & what would have to happen to make the facility effective in delivering long term care. To me that includes costs to construct & maintain, transportation infrastructure and busing policies that serves the needs of the riders the City is trying to entice for a better return on their investment.
And due to on-going complaining about housing options and where workers for this new facility would live needs to be on the table too. Perhaps it's time for government to ponder another staff housing complex in the Whistle bend to house the many workers required to operate the facility.
While this may be an appealing political football to kick around - let's get back to earth and the realities of having a care facility that delivers on what it is supposed to. Drive around town - there are not many options for an alternate location unless some properties get bought at inflated prices.

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BnR on Jul 16, 2015 at 6:42 pm

It may be that WB is the best place for it, I just wish that our premier could communicate this to us in a rational manner. As the article mentions, it is unclear as to why WB was determined to be the best. Darrel, give us some credit, Yukoners aren't stupid, just give us the technical facts.

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Brian on Jul 16, 2015 at 5:31 pm

The Yukon Party has been looking out for the best interest of the Tax paying Yukoners. The ones who contribute to the growth of the Yukon.
The Peel is rich in deposits which equals Income not from Federal grants. Fracking is an efficient way to harvest, with a minimal surface devistation, one well site can only draw up to 10% of the resource, Fracking allows for 90 some percent to be drawn.
Continuing care, we need a place to put our elders, it's going into a new subdivision. Unless there are current building issues with all the new residences due to the conditions of the soil, then it's a non topic.
The NDP have always played on the hearts of the New Immigrants and other minority groups.
You want to make a stink, then maybe look at the unemployment rate here and ask why we have a Foreign workers program???
How about dealing with real problems.

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Wayne on Jul 16, 2015 at 4:54 pm

Politics as usual for Ms. Hanson. The NDP are in full voice over this facility, but were mute about the changes to the PUG.

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