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Premier Darrell Pasloski
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Premier Darrell Pasloski
The Yukon is losing $23 million in the transfer payment from Ottawa for next year’s territorial budget, and Premier Darrell Pasloski wants it back.
The Yukon is losing $23 million in the transfer payment from Ottawa for next year’s territorial budget, and Premier Darrell Pasloski wants it back.
Pasloski said in an interview Tuesday afternoon he asked federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau on Monday to restore the unexpected reduction in the annual payment.
“What he committed to do was look at it again, but he made no commitment to reinstate it,” the premier told the Star after returning from the annual meeting of Finance ministers in Ottawa.
Pasloski said he has no choice now but to plan the 2016-2017 fiscal budget with $23 million less than the government was expecting.
The reduction is taking $23 million out of the Yukon. It will affect spending across the board, whether it’s for health care, education or what have you, the premier said.
He said the reduction is the result of a new method Statistics Canada is using to determine what numbers to plug into the formula used to calculate the annual transfers to the territories and provinces.
But there’s more to the formula than just hard numbers, said Pasloski.
He said the fundamental principles of the annual transfer include stability and predictability.
The Yukon government only learned of the new calculation at the beginning of this month, he said. He suggested the announcement did not support the principles of predictability and stability.
The letter posted on line by Morneau to the Yukon explaining the annual transfer is somewhat disingenuous, the premier said.
Pasloski said while the federal minister notes the Yukon will be receiving $7 million more than the $874 million it was given last year, he doesn’t say it’s getting $23 million less than originally calculated.
“I am in a position right now where we are planning the next budget, and we have no choice but to budget $23 million less,” the premier said.
Pasloski emphasized the Yukon is in year two of a five-year commitment from Ottawa to the formula financing arrangements.
If the new method of calculating the transfer is allowed to stand for the remainder of the five years, the Yukon will lose well over $100 million in anticipated federal funding, the premier pointed out.
Well over $100 million, he said, is a substantial hit for the territory.
As a result of Monday’s discussions among the Finance ministers, Pasloski said, it was decided to defer any decision on increasing contributions to the Canada Pension Plan while officials explore options in advance of next year’s annual meeting.
The matter of federal support for spending on infrastructure did arise. There was no indication how quickly the new Liberal government will make money available as promised by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, he said.
Tim Shoniker of the territorial Department of Finance said Tuesday calculations by his department in October and November were still showing the next federal transfer would be $23 million more.
It was only at the beginning of this month they learned otherwise, he said.
Shoniker said the reduction was not the result of a political decision. Rather, it stems from a Statistics Canada decision to refine the method used to calculate the transfer payments to the territories and provinces, he said.
More specifically, Shoniker explained, it was a change in the method to assess and apply expenditures by provincial and local governments. Those expenditures are reflected in the formula used to calculate the annual transfers, he said.
In the first year of the five-year agreement, he added, the Yukon received $851 million for the 2014-2015 fiscal budget and $874 million for this fiscal year.
Under the previous method of calculating the transfer, the government was anticipating a transfer of $901 million for the 2016-2017 year, Shoniker said.
He said it was a “shock” when they learned of the new calculation on Dec. 1.
The Northwest Territories says its grant will be slashed by $34 million.
Nunavut’s cut is estimated at more than $50 million.
Yukon MP Larry Bagnell said early this afternoon he too just learned of the new method to calculate the transfer payments, so he doesn’t have specific details. He has asked the federal minister’s office to provide them.
“He (Morneau) has asked his officials to work with their territorial colleagues to see what the options are to address this,” said the Liberal MP. “He certainly asked them to address this concern.”
Bagnell said overall, the Yukon can expect to see more federal money flow into the territory based on Liberal commitments, such as raising the amount for the monthly Child Tax Benefit.
On the subject of the pension plan contributions, the premier said with an economy that is already in the doldrums, it’s the wrong time to take more money out of circulation and direct it to higher pension contributions.
“I think the timing is not right to do that,” Pasloski said.
The federal Liberals promised as part of their election platform to explore increasing pension contributions and payouts, though they need the support of at least seven provinces with more than 50 per cent of Canada’s population to make the changes.
Pasloski said the Finance ministers decided to direct their officials to examine options, from making no changes to making substantial modifications.
Progress will be reported at the mid-year meeting next June.
The matter will come back for the ministers’ further consideration at their annual meeting next December, he said.
There needs to be an assessment of how other mechanisms are helping Canadians prepare for retirement, such as the effectiveness of the relatively new tax-free savings accounts, he said.
Pasloski said the Finance ministers also wanted some indication from the federal minister about how quickly the new government will come forward with its commitment to stimulate the economy with infrastructure money, though they did not receive anything firm.
From the territorial and provincial perspectives, the sooner the better, he said.
The Yukon, Pasloski pointed out, has already advanced shovel-ready infrastructure projects for consideration.
Bagnell said any proposals that were in the system before October’s election will continue along their normal course and will not be affected by the vote.
He added he’s not sure when they’ll begin seeing the new commitment for more federal funding for infrastructure support.
“I hope it is soon,” he said, adding he knows a number of Yukon projects were in the hopper prior to the election.
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Comments (30)
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R. Delanor on Dec 30, 2015 at 12:31 am
June: I take away from your comments someone that is afraid of the government. I do not read dissing the Yukon into your comment. You are not the only person concerned about this government. I work with an 86 year old woman who had to go back to work over rent issues who is also afraid.
Mr. Someone Who Knows It All: Your parents are not the whole picture. June is also not the whole picture. However, to both of you, all provinces and territories have senior care programs covering drugs, supplies, housing, minimum income etc. No one is moving here because of senior benefits. They are coming here because their families have gotten jobs here and seniors like to be close to family.
The generation now in their late 60s and 70s was/is a very private era. My parents did not discuss their incomes, health, family issues. They aren't hiding anything when they object to a means test. That generation simply considers it nobody's business. Seniors come from a time when you did not splash your private affairs, or family issues all over the place, and many take losing all privacy very hard. My mother found it embarrassing when a very young person (to her) looked over her complete medical at Motor Vehicles, she felt a letter would have sufficed.
Everyone seems to have concerns in one area or another about what the Yukon Party will cut out of its budget to cover the $23 million dollars we will not be receiving. I also have concerns as the first place to see the ax coming is employment, especially the lower and middle rungs of the government employee ladder. The government structure at present is so top heavy it could use a good purge. Education is hugely over funded. I am sure other depts are as well, but Education is the one I know about.
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Someone Who Knows on Dec 29, 2015 at 2:53 pm
No June, my parents have been here since the 1950's and I have lived in many Yukon communities and over the decades have seen first hand what is done for seniors here, including my own parents. My parents by the way had their own place until cancer and illness forced them from the cabin into assisted care and senior housing in Whitehorse. We live in this privileged, protected little bubble here in the Yukon as far as seniors (all of us for that matter) are concerned, and when it is needed there is excellent care, subsidies, and outright freebies for seniors, which is as it should be but certainly don't complain about it. My mother for example got no charge MRI's, CT scans, expensive cancer medications, multiple surgeries, and the list goes on. Since that time she is also getting accommodation that includes the required around the clock care, meals, and nursing for I think $30 per day, try finding that anywhere else. Tell a hospital, housing authority, or care home outside you pay taxes and that should cover the bill, see how far you get! Also why shouldn't there be a means test for seniors by the way? If you have seniors who are wealthy should they be getting the same subsidies as those who don't? I might fall under the means category when the time comes and have no problem with it.
I don't know you June and I have no problem with you, but my family and parents are extremely grateful for the Yukon and what it has done for them and continues to do for them. I won't stand by and hear someone bash one of the best jurisdictions in North America for seniors, especially after hearing horror stories concerning senior care from other places.
As you alluded to in your statement, it is such a good jurisdiction for seniors that people are bringing their parents here from other places to take advantage of it, that speaks volumes.
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June Jackson on Dec 29, 2015 at 10:05 am
To: Someone who knows: So..you write your letter about the 2 people you know. Let me tell you about the rest of us... Did you miss the "means test" forced on Seniors last year? That enforced test collected financial information about every senior not currently in senior housing. And those in senior housing have already had to present their incomes. Did you miss Mr. Nixon saying in the house that this government is investigating senior incomes? Why do you think they are doing that?
A fraction of the cost of 'outside". So, you are a southerner that brought your parents here for the cost savings? For those of us that resist going to senior housing and want our privacy, something that is our own, a home, a garden..it's a different story. Home care is too expensive for most of us. The drug program is not free for many of us, as the formulary the government uses to determine if a drug is eligible is very limited and virtually NO newer, more effective drugs are on it because they are more expensive than older drugs, even though some of the older drugs are less effective.. thus, many of us are having to pay for our own drugs, and going back to work in our 70s and 80s to do so. If you rent in the Yukon you're not getting anything for free.. you can't even get a rent receipt to apply for the pioneer grant.. home care isn't free.. Pioneer Grant? Landlords don't like to give receipts. Health Care? That's not free..you did know that 66% of your income goes into taxes to pay for said health care? I am lucky I have a doctor, actually quite a good one.. not all of them are.. many do not even have a bad one..
Seniors pick up the blame for everything... Out of pension money? For people who have worked and paid their way for, in my case, 55 years.. and yet, NO ONE says..we're running out of money for welfare? Why does a senior have to turn in to MDV an entire medical, right down to their hemorrhoids..but no one has to be drug tested?
I write my letters for many many seniors I know and also for the hundreds I don't know, but are riding along in my boat. Yes.. this government is gunning for seniors and has been since day 1.
http://yukondigitallibrary.ca/digitalbook/beyondsixty/ This is an older report, but still valid today.
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Someone Who Knows on Dec 28, 2015 at 1:47 pm
@ June, gunning for seniors? Seriously? As someone who has two elderly parents in the territory, one of whom is in an assisted living facility in Whitehorse, I can tell you firsthand that seniors in this territory are treated more than well. My parents are the ones who often remind me and others of the fact they get such good care in the Yukon at a cost that is a fraction of what they would pay in either southern Canada or the USA.
That's not to mention seniors income and property tax breaks, heating grants, free extended health and drug programs, discounts and outright free services provided to seniors by government and others throughout the territory. Anyone who says seniors are being gunned for in this more than generous territory is completely out of touch with the real world.
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Reality Check on Dec 28, 2015 at 1:24 am
It's really sad that so many Conservatives think the government should just keep growing and we in the north deserve ever increasing handouts from Ottawa. It's time to take some responsibility! The rest of Canada is feeling economic pain right now and to think we would remain insulated from that pain is foolish. The Yukon Party government here has bloated itself to a ridiculous point! The problem is that they are too scared to do anything about it. They know that government workers have a lot of votes.
If you don't believe me, than riddle me this: Our mining industry has been in the toilet for the last few years yet the department of Energy, Mines and Resources has actually grown!! I mean what are they all doing over there when the sector is basically dormant? I'm sure they could come up with a million make-work projects/excuses but it's just another example of bloated government that our territorial government endorses. It's time we focus on the private sector!
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June Jackson on Dec 27, 2015 at 9:52 pm
The Yukon Party has been a huge disappointment to me. The only one I was really sorry that got elected was Doug Graham, and I remembered his performance from City Council.. I had know Darryl for years, I thought he was a decent person and would make a good leader... who could possibly have foretold how underhanded, secretive, frivolous.. the YP would turn out to be? With a majority government they turned it into a true dictatorship, disregarding public opinion, ridiculing anyone who disagreed with them, blowing taxpayer money like drunken sailors. They think Ottawa missed that? I'm surprised they only cut $23 million. As others have said.. YP will cut jobs..but it won't be the fat sitting at the top of the heap, it will be the little guys at the bottom of the pecking order, and cuts to programs that people need. They have been gunning for seniors for a long time.. they are not going to do anything FOR anyone, but I think they will do quite a lot, none of it good, TO all of us.
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Tom Stevens on Dec 27, 2015 at 9:57 am
Maybe it's time to come to reality Yukon. The billion plus free dollars the despised south has been providing Paz to allow him to pretend he is a real premier in a real place is coming to an end...
The vast number of unqualified, overpaid YTG folks needs to be culled, and the free rewards to Yukon Party hacks can come to an end... Bought time the reality of real life appears. Alberta is no longer providing the milk and honey to Canada and everone is going to feel the pain.
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Bobby Bitman on Dec 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm
We really do have a lot of government workers sitting around doing next to nothing. I hear it from them directly. They think it's normal, and as someone said to me yesterday, "Oh, that's everywhere." - she actually thinks doing nothing at work is normal and would be found in the private sector as well.
It would be very easy to balance the books by cutting positions. As someone said, salaries and benefits to government workers make up 80% of our budget. But you know what is going to be axed? The few dollars that actually go into program expenses, real expenses that are necessary.
I hope Pasloski shows some leadership and gets rid of just a little of the dead wood.
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John Gould on Dec 25, 2015 at 9:53 am
Finally a government who recognizes the fact that this territory has far to many government positions being paid out from the embarrassing amount of money spent to build and staff the new jail to all the bogus positions created to stave off liability. Since when did it take so many people to run a territory with fourty thousand people? It's a joke and a long time coming maybe now there will be some real transparency in our government.
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Just Sayin' on Dec 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm
Ummm, everyone heard the ad campaign the Liberals put forth; what did people expect to happen? Get used to this Yukon; FOUR years of this. $15.00 a day daycare, refugees (we can't help out own people who are on the streets; Vancouver east side), $ to Quebec, and increases to socialist programs such as welfare.
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Thinning Senior on Dec 24, 2015 at 4:47 pm
"On the subject of the pension plan contributions, the premier said with an economy that is already in the doldrums, it’s the wrong time to take more MONEY out of circulation and direct it to higher pension contributions."
This shows he hasn't a clue about finances. What does he think Seniors are going to do with the money that they've lost to inflation? Stuff it in a mattress?
Something will be taken out of circulation and it won't be the small pittance Seniors require to keep within sight of inflation.
The City councillors who voted for the zoning change proposal for the unneeded Soccer extravaganza must be glad they were defeated. Who were they? I've got Boyd, Fendrick and the main perpitraitor Hartland. Is this right?
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Dallas schaber on Dec 24, 2015 at 3:57 pm
I wish people had to put their names and addresses down when they post an opinion, some of these people are out to lunch!
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No university? on Dec 24, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Maybe this means no ridiculous University? After all, the college is funded by the government (and not low tuition enrollment). The university would be funded by the government. No YukU!
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60% of management can be cut on Dec 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm
in the Yukon Government and the only thing that would change is more money for programs for the people.
80% of the Yukon operating budget goes into salaries and benefits.
Management represents almost 46% of YTG employees.
It should be 15 to 18% of the employees.
But no one in the party will deal with it because management runs the government not elected officials.
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yk freedom junkie on Dec 24, 2015 at 1:36 pm
I agree 100% with the thank wonderboy comment. Axing 25 million in this territory should be as easy as can be. Maybe once all these useless govt. positions get axe'd these govy workers can head back to Ontario, or wherever, and we can get on with business up here. Jeez I'm warming up to the Liberal govt up here all ready.
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north_of_60 on Dec 24, 2015 at 12:16 pm
@jc
Respect is earned, it doesn't automatically come with a job title.
Paz for Pharmacist in 2016
Give the guy a job he can handle.
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Merry Xmas from the liberals on Dec 24, 2015 at 11:53 am
The liberals are using stat-can for political purposes. ScR the north and the west.
They are taking back a $100 million over the next five. There is no increases over the next five years.
Look at the government accounts over the last five years the Yukon received a lot more funding each year for the last five years.
For every million dollars taken out of the Yukon we lose 8 good paying jobs.
The cut equals 800 good paying jobs lost in the Yukon.
The child tax credits are what, $4 million at most to the Yukon.
Now let's look at the increases that Yukon has received over the last eight years. Northern Housing trust $50 million, infrastructure $130, increase to northern affairs $80 million, Can Nor $100 million, Yukon Government $200 plus million or a lot more from what I have been told.
The cuts in transfers and no increases in transfers will take out 2400 to 3200 jobs in the Yukon. These numbers come from actual government accounts that are public.
So all the conservative build up will be taken away by the liberals.
The infrastructure housing money that was stated during the election will only be term work not full time positions that the Yukon is going to lose.
Mr. Silver we can't hear you! Larry, Yukon people don't believe you when you stated you did not know about this.
The western provinces and the north are getting scared by liberals just like they did under the first Trudeau and Paul Martin.
All the liberal governments from Ontario east are very happy.
PE Trudeau took $540 million a year away from Alberta when he was in power.
Again this young Trudeau is doing the same to Alberta. They have to pay in more with 6 billion dollar deficit.
We though gun reg was bad.
Larry you have lost all credibility with Yukoners including liberals.
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Oldtimer on Dec 24, 2015 at 10:46 am
To Lost in Yukon and North of 60. Such Liberal comments. Maybe you can really get lost in Yukon. Wait tell you see our health care which is a federal matter gets cut along with other programs. Aside from what's left of mining, Tourism is the only generator of income. This is not the time for the PM to start cutting territorial and provincial transfers. I would like to know what our federal member of parliament has to say about this. Instead of giving away millions of dollars to other countries maybe it's time we looked at what is happening in our own back yard.
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True Yukoner on Dec 24, 2015 at 9:03 am
@ Lost In The Yukon- Just curious, do you refer to Trudeau as 'The high school teacher', or 'The privileged rich kid', or is it just Premier Darrell Pasloski that you think it's acceptable to denigrate?
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spud on Dec 24, 2015 at 8:47 am
Perhaps, Mr. Premier you should cut your thought process from Harper's....Cutting taxes from higher wage earners as you recently announced for the few of us paying the Yukon Tax Surcharge... We can afford those taxes and have no problem helping those less fortunate...BUT GOVERNMENTS MUST CONTROL THEIR SPENDING. I resent your attempt to, buy my vote, but I can't find an alternative at this time...The dippers are too negative and it would be scary to have them try to manage our budget.
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Yukoner 38 on Dec 24, 2015 at 12:28 am
'thank boy wonder' ...... but we all want the boondoggle soccer field! Never mind that this formula was calculated under Harper. As Conservatives we want the government taps turned on full! It is up to the rest of Canada to fund us!
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Smurf on Dec 23, 2015 at 8:16 pm
Simple solution: Cut the wages or better some of the already waaaay to many government jobs!
When you look at some "departments" or offices: Nobody really knows what they're doing all day (and not to mention all the rented office spaces)...
So better do a review and a reorganization and everything will be fine!
Why not cut costs this way in addition to the cancellation of unnecessary projects?
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BnR on Dec 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm
North_of
Frittering our money away, like on hospitals in Dawson and Watson lake that were not needed? And please list off the list of accomplishments your beloved Steve Harper completed for the Norths sovereignty? New hoodies for the Rangers? Oh yeah, getting updated rifles to replace the venerable .303. Ice breakers? Not so much.
The PCoC blew money left, right and center, frittering it away like drunken Liberals from Chretiens day. The Ravens are coming home to roost, money doesn't grow on trees and the phat times of endless transfer payments are coming to an end. Weren't you one of the ones decrying the transfer largess we received?
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Bagnell Save Us! on Dec 23, 2015 at 5:56 pm
The liberals need to claw this money back to pay for the $2.45 billion they just promised to give to other countries in Paris, as well to pay the hundreds of millions for PM selfies' pet project with the Syrian immigrants.
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jc on Dec 23, 2015 at 5:42 pm
Lost in the Yukon: He is not "the Pharmacist". He is "the Premier" of the Yukon. Show some respect. Perhaps your moniker has some psychological connection.
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jc on Dec 23, 2015 at 5:27 pm
It's the Liberals normal way of doing business. Make the Yukon Party (Conservative) look bad so Yukoners will vote for the Liberals in the next Yukon Territory elections then give it back to the Liberal party government to make them look good. Unethical but legal.
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Groucho d'North on Dec 23, 2015 at 4:58 pm
They campaigned on a $10 billion deficit, which they now say will balloon up to $25 Billion. With these announced cuts across the northern territories, I wonder where all that deficit money will get spent?
Hey Larry what's the deal?
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Lost in the Yukon on Dec 23, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Despite the spin being put on this by the Pharmacist and the bureaucrats who do as they are told, no one is surprised by the reduction and many within had been predicting it for quite sometime.
The righteous indignation therefore on the part of the Pharmacist is somewhat disingenuous.
Knowing this then one simply has to look at the frivolous and callous spending commitments he has made in the last year in order to secure another term tells you all you need to know about the Yukon Party and its leader.
"Boy Wonder" has it correct there are more than enough fat that can be cut without trying to frighten the electorate into thinking only the Pharmacist can save us.
Let's also remember that this was all started under the Harper Government, the Pharmacist's best buddy.
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north_of_60 on Dec 23, 2015 at 3:36 pm
That's what happens when people elect governments that fritter away our hard-earned tax dollars on self-serving boondoggles, like attending the Paris Climate Games with a large entourage of sycophants and hangers on.
"In a democracy, people get the government they deserve,"
Northern Canada is about to discover just how inexpensively sovereignty can be maintained. A growing indigenous population and a bloated government bureaucracy to service them is all that's required. Everyone else can fend for themselves on what might 'trickle down'. Better hope you've got a useful skill to bargain with, otherwise homelessness is a lot more comfortable in the south.
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thank boy wonder on Dec 23, 2015 at 2:58 pm
So funny. Simple solution is axe the new french school, Mt. Sima, the soccer facility, paved ski trails, and anything else that liberal voters would support. Also $5000 fee for all non resident and guided hunters and peel watershed canoeists. The budget will balance itself.