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Water has damaged hotels:owners

DAWSON CITY - Dawson's town council is uncertain how to respond to a demand by Dawson City Hotels. Ltd. that the town should reimburse the company for damage to the walls, ceilings and floors of some of its buildings by condensation caused by the town's water supply.

By Dan Davidson on August 7, 2008

DAWSON CITY - Dawson's town council is uncertain how to respond to a demand by Dawson City Hotels. Ltd. that the town should reimburse the company for damage to the walls, ceilings and floors of some of its buildings by condensation caused by the town's water supply.

Town manager Paul Moore said the company's owners, Peter and Karen Jenkins, had expressed their concerns to the town office in April 2007 and that the issue goes back further than that.

Peter Jenkins originally invoiced the town in April of this year, having brought the issue to council in person in October 2007.

Then, as now, Jenkins protested that the town's water supply contains an excess of carbon dioxide, which made it corrosive to copper piping, brass fittings and solder.

At that time, he was complaining about the excessive failure of water heaters in his hotels and staff quarters, but his invoice of April indicates that he has had to replace rotten walls, ceilings and floors as well.

He has only invoiced for partial costs involving these repairs, but the bill amounts to $12,180.

Following Jenkins' original complaints, the town had water tests carried out by Gartner Lee Ltd.

That firm reported last February that Dawson's water supply is within acceptable Canadian standards, a report Moore reminded council of at Tuesday evening's meeting.

"The bottom line is that we know that our water meets all municipal standards. The quote from Gartner Lee was that most municipalities would kill to have water as good as ours."

That doesn't mean that the town will do nothing, but it is pursuing several lines of inquiry, and these were ratified by a council resolution Tuesday.

The town administration has forwarded the matter to its lawyers for a legal opinion.

Council has also instructed that a second water quality study be carried out, by a different firm if possible, just to have a second opinion.

In addition, council would like to determine how much it would cost to make an inventory of the water meters which were installed throughout town during the last elected council term earlier this decade.

These were part of a move toward reducing water flow and getting ready for a mechanical sewage treatment plant but, while they were installed, they were never activated.

The mechanical plant option was subsequently abandoned by the territorial government when both construction and O&M costs were found to be excessive.

It is known that some meters have failed, but the status of the entire installation is not known.

Jenkins' latest letter indicates that he believes these meters are part of the condensation problems he has experienced.

"The city failed to insulate the water meters and related piping," wrote the former mayor.

Dawson's water comes out of its wells at very close to freezing temperature and has to be warmed before it is put into circulation.

The water and sewer system here, which was originally installed by the territorial government, relies on a steady movement of water in all the pipes to keep the flow from jelling.

Underground pipes in Dawson have been known to freeze even in July. The need for water bleeding into the pipes for much of the year is the major reason why Dawson uses as much water as does a town more than four times its population.

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Johnny LaRue on Aug 15, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Jenkins strikes again!

BTW, Bobby Bitman ...HOW ARE YAaa!?!!!

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Bruce McKay on Aug 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm

Jenkins is and always has been greedy and selfish in thinking the governments of the Yukon should pay for his business skills. Hmmm pipe condensation... insulation works too bad Jenkins can't...stop being a "BIG DRIP" on the dollars of the Yukon taxpayers. Shame on you Peter!

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Don McLaughlin on Aug 7, 2008 at 2:54 pm

As a mechanical engineer and a former Yukoner now living on the west coast of BC I am well aware of condensation on cold water lines. Most people are aware that it does not take particularly cold water for condesation to form on cold water lines in hot weather. It is standard engineering practice to insulate cold water piping to prevent condensation problems particularly in commercial builings where water consumption is relatively constant compared to a single family residence. There should be no condensation on the cold water lines in the hotel if they are properly insulated. If they are not properly insulated then I fail to see how the city can be held responsible for simply supplying their customers with cold water.

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Bobby Bitman on Aug 7, 2008 at 9:51 am

Will the Jenkins be given the bills if this 'Invoice' is found to be frivolous? The Jenkins should have been the ones to prove that the CO2 was high before their invoice was taken seriously. It is not the job of tax payers of Dawson City to disprove every silly claim that is made by people wanting a payout. The CO2 was NOT high, the Jenkins made a false claim and should pay up for one Gartner Lee study, and counting. (Like that's going to happen!)

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