Photo by Whitehorse Star
Laurie Henderson, David Petkovich and Brendan Hanley
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Laurie Henderson, David Petkovich and Brendan Hanley
There was no question on the thoughts of Sima supporters Monday evening as city council defeated a motion to provide $65,700 to the Friends of Mount Sima group in its efforts to reopen the ski hill.
There was no question on the thoughts of Sima supporters Monday evening as city council defeated a motion to provide $65,700 to the Friends of Mount Sima group in its efforts to reopen the ski hill.
As soon as Councillors Betty Irwin, Mike Gladish and Jocelyn Curteanu and Mayor Dan Curtis raised their hands against providing the funding, cries of "Boo!” erupted from the audience crowded into council chambers.
The hill, which was operated by the Great Northern Ski Society (GNSS), closed in the midst of its second season of summer operations amid significant financial problems.
While the GNSS is working on getting out of debt, the Friends of Mount Sima are working on getting the hill reopened.
"Very discouraged,” summed up Friends of Sima member Laurie Henderson, reacting to the vote outside council chambers, arguing council had just breached faith with group.
Henderson said the new organization has met every challenge the city has put to it in working to get the hill back in action.
Earlier in the meeting, prior to the decision, she argued voting against the funding would be seen as an insult. It would also mean "the city will be responsible for mothballing the facility,” Henderson said.
Council, she pointed out, had said it wanted to see community support for the hill – and the group has gotten pledges for more than 800 passes to be purchased.
The group has done everything it can to cut down the budget to run the hill while still running a safe facility, she has told council on several occasions.
Council members questioned last week whether the Friends of Sima would be incorporating to a formal society.
Henderson told members in her presentation Monday that paperwork has been filed, and it is now only a matter of days until that happens.
The four council members who voted against the funding noted a number of reasons for their vote – that there was too much haste in it, more funding will be needed for the hill that the city just doesn't have, more planning needs to be done to reopen Sima and so on.
Outside council chambers, Sima supporters continually repeated the word "disappointed” as they reacted to the decision.
It was argued by council members that the hill could close for the year, leaving the Friends of Sima more time to plan for a 2014 opening and look at what went wrong for the GNSS.
That argument didn't sit well with Coun. Kirk Cameron, who questioned whether the momentum would still be there in a year, and supporters of the hill.
Last night, Henderson could not say what the vote means for the Friends of Sima, noting the group will have to discuss it at their next meeting.
Brendan Hanley, the territory's medical officer of health, was also at Monday's meeting.
He noted his disappointment with council's vote, suggesting the group could lose momentum if the hill is shuttered for a year.
Rather than opening for another winter season this year, it will mean having to resuscitate a closed hill in 2014, Hanley suggested.
A tremendous amount of work has been done by volunteers of various backgrounds, he added.
A lot of experience went into coming up with a financial plan for the hill.
Despite the vote against the funding, Hanley did note that there didn't seem to be a question by anyone on council about the health and social benefits the hill brings.
He stated those benefits as essentially three: family, fitness and fun.
Skiing and snowboarding are sports entire families can enjoy together, the doctor pointed out.
The fitness value is obvious, Hanley said, then pointing out that there's value too in the "sheer fun” that can be had at the hill.
And that's not to mention the economic and community benefits that come with it as well.
That was much of the focus of David Petkovich's presentation to council as he pointed to the jobs and the economic stimulus to other businesses that Sima provides.
He and Henderson addressed council prior to the meeting, reiterating the importance of the hill on the community.
Petkovich suggested mothballing Sima would mean watching a valuable asset deteriorate, Yukoners spending their ski dollars to head to resorts Outside and professionals leaving the territory.
"This would be a shame and, further I think, it would be shameful,” Petkovich said.
He then took issue with individual council members and comments they've made in the past, questioning where Mayor Dan Curtis' leadership was.
He also noted his surprise at Coun. Mike Gladish's stance not to provide the funding, given the councillor's role as manager of the Whitehorse Cross-Country Ski Club.
Petkovich told Coun. Betty Irwin that while he doesn't doubt there have been negative comments about Sima made, similar complaints were probably made when other recreational facilities were built.
The naysayers, he noted, have not come forward at a council meeting to state their case.
"I ask you all to make the right decision,” he said to lengthy applause from the gallery.
Outside council chambers following the vote, Petkovich said he was "disappointed and dismayed” with council's decision.
While council voted against the funding, it did vote in favour of taking over title for a groomer the Yukon government is purchasing from the GNSS for $55,000, with that money to go toward paying off debts owed by the GNSS to WildPlay for the adventure park it had on the hill.
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Comments (16)
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north_of_60 on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:46 am
"Boos" to Council when they don't get their way says a lot about the sorts of people who support MtSima. It seems they grew up feeling entitled to get their way all the time. Welcome to the real world, elitists.
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yukoner on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:25 am
I am very happy with the no vote. it's about time and Walter maybe you can pay for it. Would you like some cheese with your wine? Tax payers don't want to pay for your sport.
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yukon1973 on Sep 25, 2013 at 2:37 pm
@ It Ain't Worth It:
what are those poor doctors going to do?
Well, one or two of them might choose to move. And some potential new recruits are going to ultimately choose a more appealing location where they can ski.
@ We Did Vote:
this wasn't an issue at election time. if it had been, I'm sure that more than a few votes would have been cast differently. Public consultation is done on lots of City issues, why hasn't there been any on this?
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Max Mack on Sep 25, 2013 at 8:32 am
Thank you Mayor Curtis and the rest of council. I understand that you all want to help this group. But, the reality is that they did not have a solid plan with cash in hand to back it up.
With the more than $400k that has already been committed by GY and CoW this year, the additional $200k requested by FoMS would put the ticker price at +$600k for this year alone.
This amount does not include the inevitable requests for more funding when the "pledges" didn't materialize.
Nor does it include the unresolved financial aspects re: Wild Play or other as-yet undisclosed issues.
Continued funding demands are likely to exceed $500k per year.
I'm fed up with the hyper-tax increases we've been seeing. So, thank you City Council.
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It aint worth it on Sep 25, 2013 at 8:31 am
Those poor lawyers and doctors on the Friends of Sima.
Whatever shall they do now? Surely to god they won't have to rub shoulders with the unwashed masses down at the *shudder* Canada Games Centre.
Scandalous!
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We did vote! on Sep 25, 2013 at 4:20 am
To "Concerned Whitehorse Citizen", we did vote. We voted when we voted in this Mayor and Council to represent Whitehorse.
I agree with most of the comments here. I'm glad they said "no". I'm not opposed to the hill, but I do think they need to start making money first and backing their promises before opening. If so many people want it, they'll chip in to get it going. Why not do more fundraisers? Bingos make money. I think hosting fundraisers requiring volunteers will really expose who is in support of this hill because if they want it to run, they'll have to get out and do something (besides signing someone saying they'll buy a membership--which I bet probably only 10% of those 800 would actually buy a pass) to get their hill going.
Not to mention the poor management of the ski hill in the past. Are that many (overpaid) managers needed for something that is only open for 24 days in the year (or whatever small number it was)? And instead of getting that Wild Play, why didn't they invest in lighting so that it would extend the day, as we have very limited natural light in the dead of winter up here. Just my thoughts.
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Jackie Ward on Sep 25, 2013 at 4:12 am
Here's a question you people who support this failed hill won't want to answer. How does the golf course do it? I don't see them whining and trying to extort money from the city. I don't see them trying to make people feel guilty if they don't ante up. Look in the mirror. Accept reality. And that reality is no one cares about this hill. Facts are facts.
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Concerned Whitehorse Citizen on Sep 24, 2013 at 12:08 pm
As I have said before, why not have all citizens vote on the issue? Truly, this concerns the money we all put in as taxpayers. I still believe the majority of citizens do not wish to fund a very expensive recreation. I would not be able to afford it and I have a very good job. I still would put my children's actual health, education and welfare above some recreational enjoyment. This should be our choice since we are paying for it (or not). If you consider the people who are coming out in support for that hill the majority, I believe you are mistaken. 800 out of 25,000 does not a majority make. As well, we do not know for a fact that these 800 Are willing to actually come through. Put it to a city vote!
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Andrew M on Sep 24, 2013 at 11:56 am
What a horrible decision. That brand new chairllift and chalet is going to be lonely thanks to 4 city councilers that failed to recognize the reason it was created in the first place. Truly disappointing and huge loss for the town whether the city council and naysayers see it or not. And Mike Gladish???
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Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2013 at 11:49 am
Friends...will the lunacy ever stop with the elitists and their supporters?
A vote shot down? For yet again...another shot at other peoples money(wealth redistribution), perhaps the "lunacy" will/may/has FINALLY started...to cease?
Do a bake sale or a hundred, make some totally rad snowboarder snacks...say "brownies"....start saving...we are tired of funding your lifestyle.
Great start with the "no" vote council and mayor, practice for future bleats from like minded special interest groups whom feed on the toils of others via taxes.
Terrace the hill and condo-TO-hell the place from base to summit, make our newbies feel more at home.
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happy citizen on Sep 24, 2013 at 9:32 am
This 'no' is the first real solid step forward. Dan Curtis's upcoming request for an independent audit of how the money was spent by GNSS is absolutely necessary. What went wrong? Where did all the money go? Taxpayers deserve to know what happened and we need those details to make sure whatever went wrong never happens again. Years of huge dollar inputs with little oversight as to how the money was spent has left me one jaded tax payer. I want the hill opened, but 100% respect and appreciate the courage and forthright decision made by Joy Curteano, Mike Gladish, Betty Irwin and Dan Curtis. THANK YOU!!
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Walter Gutowski on Sep 24, 2013 at 9:11 am
BOO to the City Councillors who voted against providing the paltry $65k to re-opening of Sima, but still spending it to moth-ball the hill for at least a year. Wonder how much it will cost to re-open next year IF that goes ahead. Let this be a warning to all rec groups - the City will not support you (except for perhaps the Cross Country Ski Club). How can this be rationally explained to those who have poured their hearts and souls into this facility for the past 20 years, or the $12 million already invested, or the Friends of Mt Sima who successfully accomplished absolutely everything the City asked - only to find out their work was for naught.
I don't think some members of Council had any intention of supporting this facility, regardless of what they asked or was delivered. For example - they asked FOMS to show community support which was done with 800 pledges, then Irwin stated that was NOT good enough! Needed money in the bank! Different scenario! (And "Oh Jeez - now the hill won't get the day pass sales!). How could this group of volunteers collect the $$$, and then turn it back as would have happened with this group! Mayor Curtis was disengaged from the start - apparently playing with his iPad during a presentation last week, and resting his eyelids! I applaud Streicker and Cameron for their efforts. I can appreciate Curteanu's arguments as they were the most reasoned of the negative, but the statements and actions of the other three show what they are made of.
I can only say that of the over 400 adults who pledged support, I suspect most will remember this come the next election. No voter support was gained by this decision; a fair bet to say that the anonymous naysayers would have forgotten this $65k bill by the next election anyways. So this represents only a net loss to the 4 at election time....
My 2 bits worth, and a bit of a rant....
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Trevor Charles on Sep 24, 2013 at 7:50 am
Whomever was providing guidance to the Friends Group missed a golden opportunity to cinch the backing of WHCC.
All they had to do was put their money where their mouth was and convert the 800 pledges into ca$H and put up in trust.
They should have done that two weeks ago when they claimed to be tracking that many pledges.
Don't blame council - look in the mirror. If you should have learned anything from GNSS - it should have been to operate with transparency.
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Whitehorse Resident on Sep 24, 2013 at 7:45 am
To Mayor Curtis and council. Thank you for standing up for what you think is the right thing to do and not being pressured into funding Sima. You weren't elected to win a popularity contest with skiers but to represent all Whitehorse residents. Thanks again.
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Why are you surprised? on Sep 24, 2013 at 7:00 am
At last a reality check ... government is not a bottomless pot of money despite what the "supporters" of Sima think. Thank you Mayor and the other responsible Councilors.
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Sam Fister on Sep 24, 2013 at 6:48 am
Yes I know about all those people who think SIMA supporters are rich and spoiled and always looking for money.
However, this new group is composed of passionate people with diverse backgrounds who know what we have and they sincerely want to turn over every stone to keep it going.
Shame on Mayor and council for not trying harder to make it work this winter.
Shame on them for wasting the time of the people who came forward with what the city requested.
The city wastes my tax dollar on many things, why not try and support a group which is trying to provide a valuable resource for their children.
When is the next election, anyways, seems like we have made another mistake and poor leadership wins again.