Whitehorse Daily Star

Unions, groups assess mandatory vaccines

Reactions varied Friday afternoon after the Yukon government announced it’s making COVID-19 vaccines mandatory for all civil servants and associated organizations and businesses under the government umbrella.

By Whitehorse Star on October 18, 2021

Reactions varied Friday afternoon after the Yukon government announced it’s making COVID-19 vaccines mandatory for all civil servants and associated organizations and businesses under the government umbrella.

Ted Hupé, the president of the Yukon Teachers Association (YTA), said he couldn’t comment until he spoke to his executive members over the past weekend. He said the announcement took the YTA by surprise.

“We just found out and we had no warning,” he said.

Teachers are among the civil servants affected by the new policy, which will take effect Nov. 30.

Steve Geick, the president of the Yukon Employees’ Union (YEU), had more to say. His reaction was ambivalent to the news, which he said wasn’t a surprise.

“It was expected,” Geick told the Star Friday afternoon.

“We want to stress that we support a vaccine policy, but I am severely disappointed as to how this is being announced.”

He wasn’t reluctant to say, though, that he has questions and reservations as to how the policy will be enacted.

“There was no consultation with us,” Geick said. “So we will have to learn what our members say and follow from there.”

The YEU represents approximately 4,000 government and related employees, he said.

Due to privacy issues, he said he had no more than anecdotal evidence as to how many government employees this could potentially affect.

“I think it could be significant,” he said. “But there’s no way of knowing and no way of finding out. Even the Public Service Commission can’t provide the numbers.”

That’s one of the key issues that the government must solve as it tries to enact the policy, Geick said.

Asking people their vaccination status, or making them prove it could open up a Pandora’s Box of privacy and human rights issues, he said.

“It’s another plan without a plan,” he said. “It’s typical of this government.”

There could be a serious impact as well to racialized people, he said, and there was no mention of how to accommodate people who can’t be vaccinated. It’s just not enough detail to judge what the government is doing, the union president said.

The government also needs to address options, such as working from home or rapid testing, Geick said. That’s something that wasn’t addressed in the announcement from the government.

He also said the deadline for the policy to be implemented – Nov. 30 – doesn’t allow people enough time to get both shots plus the two weeks needed for their full effectiveness. So it will be impossible for government staff to meet the date the policy will be brought into effect, Geick said.

“There just is no real plan,” he said. “And people are going to be scared.”

Geick added that many civil servants have already used up all of their leave options, giving them no time they can tap into to potentially get a vaccine or absorb an unpaid suspension if it came to that.

Geick said today he had heard from four senior civil servants over the weekend who were wondering how to proceed with implementing the policy.

He has also received an email from the government promising consultations leading up to Nov. 30.

No information was released Friday on how the government would deal with employees who decline to be vaccinated.

“The requirement will also apply to all those non-government organizations funded by the Yukon government to provide services to vulnerable populations, as well as those in congregate living settings such as group homes, shelters and the Whitehorse Correctional Centre,” the government said Friday in its release.

The new policy will also ban unvaccinated people from using non-essential services such as restaurants and bars, as well as sporting and entertainment events.

After Nov. 30, patrons will have to show proof of vaccination. Business operators and event organizers will be responsible for policing the policy.

Rich Thompson is a member of the Yukon Chamber of Commerce and sits on the organization’s committee that deals with bars and restaurants.

He was not particularly excited nor aggrieved at the news from the government.

“It’s not unexpected,” Thompson said. “We’ve been watching this play out across Canada, so we knew it was coming.”

He said he doesn’t believe restaurant and bar operators will have to make much of an adjustment to having to check people for vaccination certificates.

They’ve already become accustomed to collecting names and numbers for people eating in, Thompson said, and to enforcing capacity limits and mandatory masking while the edict was in place.

“Everybody has to do what they have to do,” he said.

Proof of vaccination will not be required to access essential services such as grocery stores, pharmacies, libraries or banks.

See case numbers and exposure alerts in News Section.

Comments (53)

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Nathan Living on Oct 24, 2021 at 7:46 pm

Yes to medical exemptions and sorry but no to all other exemptions.
If you work in the public sector you should be vaccinated. If you refuse you can opt to work elsewhere.

Unions should give up fighting this issue.

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Sunny on Oct 24, 2021 at 6:25 pm

Here is a question: Why do I have to be vaccinated to protect you? Because if your vaccine does not protect you then mine won't do the job either. If you can still get sick and transmit, then I can still get sick and transmit. So, why is the government forcing people into this? This is a leaky vaccine. It is not sterilizing. It does not give immunity to anyone at all.

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David O’Farrell on Oct 24, 2021 at 2:17 pm

It’s astounding to me that we now know the vaccines do not stop you from getting or spreading Covid yet people still jump on the bandwagon to force others to get a medical procedure they don’t want!! Science has proven that the vaccinated are just as likely to spread the virus as the non vaccinated. I volunteer with EMS and personally know people who have gotten Covid after being vaccinated. Are the liberals clueless about that?? Doubtful since it’s on every newscast in the country. So what is a vaccine mandate going to solve??? The answer is it’s going to cause more problems. Maybe that’s the idea??

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Groucho d'North on Oct 23, 2021 at 3:05 pm

@Mountain Man
Trying to determine what is going on in the world by reading Facebook is like trying to tell the time by watching the second hand of a clock.

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David Dixon on Oct 23, 2021 at 2:18 pm

Hi: I plan to write a letter to the editor of the Whitehorse Star concerning this issue. Steve Geick the YEU president states that all unvaccinated YTG workers should be if their religion allows them to choose to remain unvaccinated as well as if they can produce a doctor’s letter giving them a medical exemption. Listening to many medical experts getting a medical exemption will only be realized by a very, very small number of people. Religious exemption has been rejected by the Canadian courts. Exemption for unspecified personal reasons is not accepted. Mr. Geick states that unvaccinated YTG employees should be allowed to go to work provided they receive a rapid COVID test. I am certain that Mr. Geick will demand that YTG pay for the cost of these tests. I as a taxpayer refuse to support my tax dollars paying for unvaccinated YTG workers’ rapid COVID tests. I demand that these unvaccinated YTG employees pay out of their own pocket for these tests.
Finally I am truly amazed at how the majority of comments here supporting the YTG’s new mandatory COVID vaccination policy starting on November/30/2021 are being rejected by the Whitehorse Star readers who are reading this comments section on this news story. Isn’t it incredible how entitled these unvaccinated YTG workers must see themselves. Why should Yukon citizens who must go into a workplace to work to earn a salary to live and pay all of their bills tolerate being served by a less efficient and less responsive YTG in its responses to Yukon citizens’s requests for service from their territorial government departments?
YTG workers you are very lucky to work for YTG. Your pay rates and other benefits including the annual Yukon bonus which should be eliminated as the present YTG descends into debt are amongst the highest in Canada when comparing salaries of other provincial and territorial government workers. This COVID pandemic started in the spring of 2020. YTG has never made it mandatory for workers in Yukons’s nursing homes and schools. Since the spring of 2020 vulnerable children unable to get the COVID vaccine and Yukon seniors living in nursing homes even if they are fully vaccinated have been exposed to those YTG workers who chose to remain unvaccinated.
Also what about all of the unvaccinated Yukon hospital workers potentially infecting vulnerable hospital patients? Enough is enough! If choose to remain unvaccinated don’t work at Yukons’s schools, hospitals, or nursing homes. Also if you serve Yukon citizens as a YTG worker then you must get vaccinated. The public safety of the health of all fully vaccinated Yukoners is more important than your right to remain unvaccinated and to continue to serve vaccinated Yukoners.

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TakeYourShot on Oct 23, 2021 at 9:36 am

There many responsibilities that civil service have to do. Getting a shot is one such responsibility. It’s that simple. If you don’t want to….resign. This isn’t an option.

Oh for those that were not consulted…get over it.

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@yukongirl, I agree with you on Oct 21, 2021 at 12:30 pm

It's getting nastier by the day, from people on both sides of the issue. I try not to judge the decisions of others, and we need to remember how people react in different ways to fear/uncertainty/anxiety. Thanks for the reminder.

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yukongirl on Oct 21, 2021 at 11:50 am

Regardless of how anyone feels about the vaccine, there are hundreds of people in the Yukon right now under an incredible amount of stress who have to make a decision to get the vaccine or lose their income. There are going to be arguments for and against within their own households as people decide what is most important for them and their families. By now, most of us have read or heard why we should or shouldn't get the vaccine. I think we need to take a timeout and be a little nicer to others while they have to make what is potentially a life altering decision. I also think the various unions involved should be presenting some information sessions to their members about this very important issue.

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Jim on Oct 21, 2021 at 11:15 am

@Mountain man, I’m sure your comment gives most quite the chuckle. I’m not sure how you class a failed politician. One that wins his seat handily and garners the popular vote. Or a majority leader calls an election to be handed a minority legislature and has to sign a deal with the NDP to keep their pensions. Or a scandal ridden, non consulting, non transparent, non answering government that makes an announcement without any details. But apparently your ok with the minister(s) and premier’s handling and answers on the Hidden Valley issue. They are not really asking any tough questions. Just the date when they first became aware and they’ve hit a stone wall. I guess that’s why petitions are being circulated for answers. But I guess that’s Currie’s fault too or just maybe it’s Trump’s fault.

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Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2021 at 9:14 am

Hey JC...why such a passive aggressive response?
Bonanzajoe reads as maybe having a credible take on a scenario of both history and reads as, personal experience does it not?

The Red Scare you mock with was actually a thing, still is...just been diluted to pink. So JC for you to mock that in a time where folks are being programmed to fear a sneeze, human contact?

What might that suggest of you JC and your cognitive dissonance?
Asking for myself, as I own a set and speak for myself.

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The YEU is a joke and it’s leadership… An ill timed punchline that falls flat! on Oct 20, 2021 at 6:13 pm

Tommy D - I agree. Geick is the leader of an inept, incompetent, and self-absorbed organization… I hate to call it a Union because it is not. It is an oligarchy with stratified decision making processes influenced by a President who has become Dictator… The stuff of dreams.

The YEU has created and perpetuated more problems than YG management. It’s a close race but Geick keeps opening his mouth. He should have been removed a long time ago.

Go back to being a Union and fight for your members rights… Stop it with the fiasco of the RWO because you are hurting people. Stand behind your members because right now you do not deserve to stand in front of them… You are in their way!!!

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Mountain man on Oct 20, 2021 at 4:27 pm

Currie’s dog whistle has the right wingers spinning in circles.

I was just reading a thread on FB where ‘Military Special Forces’ had ‘secretly’ arrived in DC3s (for the record, Canada does not have ‘special forces and if we did, they wouldn’t be flying into Whitehorse in 80 year old propeller-driven aircraft).

Mr Dixon. Words have power. Even your words as a failed politician. We all saw what lies and misinformation did in the US on January 6th.

Just yesterday you claimed the liberals are using the pandemic to distract from a criminal investigation. That is both a bald faced lie and irresponsible. You said it. At the very same time Canada and other provinces are instituting the very same restrictions. Are they all in on the plan to bury this Hidden Valley story that incidentally has active investigations underway?

You choose to revictimize that Hidden Valley child EVERY DAY in the Legislature and their family to try to score political points.
Deplorable.

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Vaxed or unvaxed? - none of your business. on Oct 20, 2021 at 3:50 pm

@ Vaccinated Mama Grizzly - Yeah, you tell 'em...those unvaccinated folks....maybe they should live somewhere else too, cause I'm not interested in having one of those unvaccinated people on my street, in my town, or even in my country; Maybe they should seek political asylum....

Your logic is not too far removed from people who blamed a minority for HIV during the early 80s, and it turns my stomach. Think hard about what you're saying. The implications of this are not just about who you have to sit next to at work.

Jeez.....talk about missing the forest for the trees.

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Dave on Oct 20, 2021 at 2:47 pm

From ‘two weeks to flatten the curve’ to ‘ vaccinate or lose your job’. I think the time for talking is about done and it’s time to stand up and start acting. I for one have had it with this BS.

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Vaccinated Momma Grizzly on Oct 20, 2021 at 12:33 pm

@ Natalie: When you were hired at YG you had to meet conditions of employment and show things like an RCMP check, a TB test and proof of your drivers license. Likely the covid vaccine will become another condition of employment. If you don't agree, you don't have to work there.

This is not a surprise. Back in June a Texas judge ruled that a hospital had the right to terminate employees who do not get vaccinated. "It is a choice made to keep staff, patients and their families safer. The employee can choose to accept or refuse a covid-19 vaccine; however if she refuses she will simply need to work somewhere else."

Many YG employees work incredibly hard to provide service to and keep vulnerable populations safe. A public service's ability to do that far outweighs protecting the vaccination preference of a handful of employees.

Steve Geick, please survey YG employees to find out how they really feel about required vaccination, and don't listen to just the vocal minority. I for one am not interested in working next to someone who is not vaccinated.

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Vaccinated Momma Grizzly on Oct 20, 2021 at 9:43 am

Reading the antivax tirades is so tiring. Hospitals are full of unvaccinated people. Full stop. People who are not vaccinated are at higher risk for serious disease. Full stop. The variants are evolving and changing the game, not the politicians who are adjusting as the situation demands they do. Full stop. Vaccines protect folks from serious illness, and MRNA technology has been around for 20 years. Full stop. Thank you YG for making this decision.

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Douglas Martens on Oct 20, 2021 at 4:50 am

Just can not wait to see what exciting new mandates, requirements, regulations, fines, punishments and restrictions this cartoon gummit will come up with next to keep us in a perpetual state of panic and fake safety!

Hilarious!!
Never stop Sandy, Brandon, and John!

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Observer on Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 pm

Boy oh boy, the right wing con nuts are getting whipped into a frothing mess here! I can see it now, they will be saying, "we must all wear special arm bands with the YP on it for the so called Yukon Party, we need to be able to identify one another, cause we have to save the Yukon from the Liberal/NDP Communist!.

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bonanzajoe on Oct 19, 2021 at 5:55 pm

JC: No I don't tired of getting Red scared. I saw first hand what the communists do many years ago and don't want it in my country. You better get Red scared because you are going to experience first hand what these devils can and will do.
Oh, and by the way, thanks for stealing my moniker. I used to be JC.

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Tommy D on Oct 19, 2021 at 5:46 pm

Geick Doesn’t speak for me.

I’ve been a reluctant YEU member for almost 2 decades and he is all about confrontation and getting in the headlines.
Steve you are failing the membership on EVERY front. It’s been going on for YEARS.

This is an issue of workplace safety so do the right goddamn thing and get out of the way.

Concentrate on getting members an increase that keeps pace with inflation, you haven’t managed that as long as I’ve been a member. Maybe negotiate a wage premium for those workers deemed as essential that were forced to work through the first waves of COVID putting themselves and families in peril. Maybe work on ending the abomination of Casual, Term, TAs and acting assignments that have workers with NO BENEFITS or doing jobs they never even applied on for their normal pay.

But nope, you just chirp from the side lines like you are somehow relevant.
You’re not.

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Natalie on Oct 19, 2021 at 5:37 pm

Denis, while you must be pleased to be such a conformist, just because I work for someone does not give them any right to tell me what I do or don’t do with my body or what I’m required to put into it. My employer doesn’t own me or my body and that includes the high and mighty government of Yukon. Give your head a shake and hopefully you’ll come to your senses.

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Denis on Oct 19, 2021 at 2:20 pm

Thank God at least some people at YG have their heads screwed on sensibly. Those who want to be employed - comply with the employer who is paying your handsome salary & pension. Those who don't like the employer's rules rules and love whining, please have the guts to leave the Yukon completely so those of us who would love your jobs can enjoy them. Good by Union Leaders et al. Please take Currie with you!!!

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confused yukoner on Oct 19, 2021 at 1:31 pm

Check out yukonfreedom.com for actual info from around the world including scientific journals and renowned researchers and medical professionals. Your well being depends on it. If something is a good idea you never have to force people to comply. The fact that there is no liability by the manufacturers of the jabs tells you everything you need to know. Toys, exercise equipment, food and countless other items get recalled if a few people get sick but jabs with serious adverse effects don't get recalled ?

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Wilf Carter on Oct 19, 2021 at 12:30 pm

Johnson - Union is not a union unless it is true rep of the members and Public Alliance of Canada and Yukon employees is not rep their members. Need new union rules and governances. Worst than the liberal governments in Canada. All about themselves , power and control.

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Resident on Oct 19, 2021 at 11:38 am

Invoking the military, an organization that regularly vaccinates members with all kinds of approved and experimental vaccines, is hardly an argument against vaccination.

George Washington had the Continental Army variolated against small pox in 1775.

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Jeff Bikaboom on Oct 19, 2021 at 9:51 am

The people commenting on every article championing these authoritarian measures are in for a rude awakening. Life will not go back to normal for you when this next step of the great reset is enforced. The goal posts will simply move to the next item on the predictable list. When all of your rights have been eroded and you are living in a surveillance panopticon hellscape, you will have no one to blame but yourself.
Enjoy your energy credits, social credit score, and human capital markets. Enjoy wearing masks all winter because your jab is absolutely 98 percent effective and working so well all around the world. Enjoy your boosters, seriously because your passport will be invalid if you don't take every one of them. You are on the wrong side of history, and you watch too much TV.

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Johnson on Oct 19, 2021 at 9:30 am

@Wilf Carter - the members own YEU. They pay the salary of the executive, and if the membership don't like how they are being represented, they have an opportunity to vote for someone else at their convention next week.

I've never had the chance to vote for my manager, so I'll stick with the union thanks.

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JC on Oct 19, 2021 at 8:21 am

Bananajoe

Do you ever get tired of being Red Scared into utter nonsense all the time?
Asking for a friend... and also, everyone else

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Dave on Oct 19, 2021 at 5:28 am

20% of all recent Covid deaths in New Brunswick have been fully vaccinated people. It doesn’t do s—- to protect you, this is just about government saying you have to obey us. I went into a southern hospital recently for some treatment and they asked the usual questions about travel and known exposure to Covid but not about my vaccine status so I asked them, don’t you want to know about my vaccination status? They said they don’t care if I was vaccinated it makes no difference to them, meaning they still consider I’m as high a risk as anyone else. This told me all I needed to know about the vaccine that isn’t.

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Nathan, seriously? on Oct 18, 2021 at 8:51 pm

The folks who fought overseas in WW2 were inoculated with every vaccine available at the time to try to reduce the sickness and death that decimated troops in WW1. The first flu vaccine was specifically developed for troops because of the 1918-1920 flu pandemic. Anecdotally, when I called my much-decorated veteran uncle on his birthday a few weeks ago (sharp as a tack), he didn't hold back on what he thought of expletive 'idiots' who refused to get vaccinated. Please don't insult these people by using them as examples of your version of 'freedom'

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bonanzajoe on Oct 18, 2021 at 8:47 pm

Nathan: I spent 3 1/2 years in W. Germany with NATO to keep communism out of the western world. Alas, we failed. The commies won. Only one thing left to do. But, for the sake of censorship, I have to digress.

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bonanzajoe on Oct 18, 2021 at 8:43 pm

Edy Rue: Those ant-vaxers would have been too proud to step on your bus and take your $1000 dollars. Decent people don't sell out their pride and dignity. I saw them too and gave them the thumbs up. Canada needs more of them and less of you.

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Josey Wales on Oct 18, 2021 at 8:40 pm

Hey bonanzajoe...often I agree with your points.
Today no, why stop?
If ya look around there are folks loving the state orders, hating free breathers and free thinkers and doing so under the guise of public safety.
I say we should insist the state ramp it up, under the concern of course for public safety and the health of the state...its interests.
Ban fast food places, make folks carry a BMI card complete with biometrics. As their BMI decreases, their freedom to dine out will increase.
The freeze dried hippies have been whining there are too many people on the planet, allegedly overwhelmingly Mother Earth so?
Yup, you guessed it state mandated sterilization campaign for all genders even.
Much like natural immunity, they should not care if you are child bearing age...getting cut into anyways...safety...Mother Earth.
Have Brazil like tactics to stop the homeless industry.
Monthly/random state cavity inspections for both health and contraband concerns.
Daily state ordered chanting time for the cause of the day...wait seems they do that already? Except for everyone, less enforcement.

Oh yeah, the last megalomaniac...was not the crazy Austrian.
They, like covid germs are everywhere lurking waiting for a vacuum of power.

LETS GO BRANDON...

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bonanzajoe on Oct 18, 2021 at 8:40 pm

Confusing: That's got to be the dumbest comment I have heard yet. You wish you had of lived in the 80s and pre 80s. Your generation and those after will never see the democracy and freedoms we had back then. Enjoy the limited freedoms you have now before the dark world of Marxism is complete.

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John on Oct 18, 2021 at 8:13 pm

@Bonanza
Well the good news is that Currie Dixon and the Yukon Party just came out in strong opposition to this communist mandate. So there is still hope we can end this and also lift the all the BS health measures. I encourage everyone to start volunteering for the Yukon Party or at least giving them some financial support! Then we just need an election to be triggered, which should happen within a year I'd say. The YP stands up for medical freedom so we need to support them!

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Matthew on Oct 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm

Once this happens, they will unleash all sorts of gulag type conditions, you've already bowed down to them, they will take full advantage. If you're vaccinated, why are you so worried that I'm not?

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Matthew on Oct 18, 2021 at 7:04 pm

I fail to see how democracy even exists when anything is mandatory, ESPECIALLY a brand new vaccine that has not been fully tested and who knows the outcome in 1 year, or even 5, 10 years.. you are ALL guinea pigs for the "completely trustworthy" pharmaceutical giants... I mean it's not like they've even lied before is it.. LOL

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moe on Oct 18, 2021 at 7:00 pm

Where are the measureables? Like when is this mandate going to expire? When less than one person in one thousand has an active case of covid? Or was no thought put into this whatsoever.

We are just told 'now it's this' 'now it's that', and I find it unprofessional and unscientific. This announcement should have been accompanied with an expiry based on a verifiable measureable. The fact that it was not suggests that the government wants to keep it open ended so all the power is in their hands, and so they will not have to do any explaining, ever, to the Little People who they govern.

Poorly handled, and I believe completely unneccessary. It won't affect me because I weighed the cost and benefit and decided to get vaccinated, but I support those who have made different decisions about their own health and bodies.

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Melanie on Oct 18, 2021 at 6:28 pm

Sad to see our forefather and relatives who fought in ww1 and ww2 for NOTHING!!. Sad our current soldiers who all fought against this kind of CONTROL AND TYRANY towards people in other counrties, for nothing.
All to see our freedoms TAKEN AWAY in our own country.
Sad to see our Freedoms go, sad to see our government destroy our CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS that so many died for.

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Juniper Jackson on Oct 18, 2021 at 6:23 pm

Old Hanley scared the crap out of me in the beginning. He predicted 7,000 Yukoners were going to die. I practically built a wall around my kids I was so frightened for them. Run to the store, buy TP, go home and lock yourself in.

But, time passes. News was trickling down that hardest hit are elders and people with preexisting that wouldn't have survived the flu. Trudeau gave nearly 700 million dollars to the press to keep pushing the fear agenda. The only media you can trust now are the independents, (like the Star) that didn't get any pay off money. No one died in the Yukon. Now, hundreds have had covid, and its variants, and some have died. But, the medical people stopped telling you if it was a senior with preexisting conditions, or a 30 year old healthy person. They started hiding information. Today? Cannot trust a word that Silver or Elliott utter.

I detest being deprived of my right to choose. And, I think forcing local businesses to tow the Liberal line, is totally reprehensible. Forcing me to reveal to a waitress any part of my medical history? Or denying me service for refusing? That poor waitress. If I had a business, I'd just nod my head at all these regulations and carrying on making as much money as I can to try and keep my head above water. Turning our retail employees', our businesses into covid police? Jeez.. be ashamed.

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Snowball II on Oct 18, 2021 at 5:48 pm

Restaurants collecting names - next they need to know is how many times you use the bathroom a day. What a joke.

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Matthew on Oct 18, 2021 at 5:33 pm

Nobody is being forced to take a vaccination. Simply stay home, unpaid and their will be another person bellied up to the public trough. No big deal and I get your right to fight for "your rights".......simply put you will be a modern day leper.

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Mandates for dough heads on Oct 18, 2021 at 5:03 pm

Two things:
1)Nobody’s protesting your right to get vaccinated. They are protesting MANDATORY VACCINES. Get it? It’s not a difficult concept unless you’re wilfully obtuse.
2) Other vaccines have nothing to do with the Covid vaccine. You’re trying to argue the merits of Tylenol based on how well Ibuprofen works. That’s an analogy, by the way.

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Bidness people ain’t cops on Oct 18, 2021 at 5:02 pm

What a lame business response from Rich Thompson. Businesses are not in the enforcement game. Thanks for throwing us under the bus. It always struck me that NVD’s real revenue came from their unlucky “investors” and not from doing any actual bar or restaurant business.

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bonanzajoe on Oct 18, 2021 at 4:15 pm

This Leninist, Stalinism Communism has to stop now. If this becomes accepted, it will be used for everything the left wing socialist governments want. Time for mass protests to put an end to this tyranny.

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Roy on Oct 18, 2021 at 4:14 pm

"He also said the deadline for the policy to be implemented – Nov. 30 – doesn’t allow people enough time to get both shots plus the two weeks needed for their full effectiveness."

OMG whatever. Everyone has had months (MONTHS!) to get their shots, so there's really no excuse other than those people's own laziness or conspiracy theories getting in the way. They could have gotten their shots before this, so too bad, the clock has run out for all you scaredy-cats. You all knew this was coming (based on what is happening all over the country) so I have no sympathy left for you.

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Sara Kennedy on Oct 18, 2021 at 4:07 pm

I have had my bloodwork done for antibodies against covid. It came back as positive for IgM antibodies and gave me a quanitative number. Yet I'm at risk for losing my job due to the fact I don't want the vaccine since my own immune system already has a defense against Covid-19.

"The rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened."
John F. Kennedy

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Nathan on Oct 18, 2021 at 3:58 pm

I love living in a "free" country. Great to see that our relatives who fought and died in ww1 and ww2 weren't fighting in vain.

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They don’t get it on Oct 18, 2021 at 3:51 pm

We support the vax policy, but we don’t like HOW it was announced? “We knew this was coming?” Do the unions exist in Yukon for any other reason but to negotiate a pay raise and more holidays every 2 years? I wouldn’t count on any support for medical freedom if I were a member based on these milquetoast responses.

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JSM on Oct 18, 2021 at 3:42 pm

Can't believe unions are still alive. No self respecting worker would have a union go to bat for you. Managers should have the right to dictate how their company is run.

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Edie Rue on Oct 18, 2021 at 3:35 pm

I'm loving the hard line with this. It's decision time for those who choose not to be vaccinated. Let's see how deep the commitment to their antivax cause goes now. There were 50 or so antivax protestors by Shipyards on Saturday. If I had the power to do so, I'd have several city buses pull up, ask them all to get on, hand them $1000 each, and drive them all south and tell them to never come back. Excellent job YG!!!

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Confusing? Very much so on Oct 18, 2021 at 2:53 pm

A question to the anti vaccine crowd; Let’s say everyone who got the vaccine vanished off the face of the earth tomorrow, your friends, family, co workers, health care workers, what are you going to do? Get liquored up all day? Stare at your dog and wish he could talk? Watch re-runs of Rambo and reminisce on the days of the 1980s when you didn’t have a beer belly? I know your thinking “wow, that sounds awesome” because let’s be real, it would be no different than the life you have now. But by the looks of things, you’ll have to keep working 9-5.

This desire to be the last person standing is hilarious, because let’s be real, if you had that much drive in you, you’d be in a lot better position in life rather than complaining about a needle.

If you want to live like the primates, pack up your satchel, save up for a horse and good luck.

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Wilf Carter on Oct 18, 2021 at 2:14 pm

The President of Yukon Employees Union will do whatever the Yukon government tells him to do because Yukon Government provides the money to pay his salary and benefits. Who owns YEU really?

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