Photo by Vince Fedoroff
EXPLAINING THE PROPOSAL – Shannon Clohosey, the city’s sustainability manager, is seen during Monday evening’s city council meeting.
Photo by Vince Fedoroff
EXPLAINING THE PROPOSAL – Shannon Clohosey, the city’s sustainability manager, is seen during Monday evening’s city council meeting.
Residents who pay city utility bills may want to budget at least an extra $15 a month for the city coffers come spring as the municipality moves forward curbside recycling collection.
Residents who pay city utility bills may want to budget at least an extra $15 a month for the city coffers come spring as the municipality moves forward curbside recycling collection.
At Monday’s city council meeting, members approved adding another $100,000 – coming from general reserves – to plan out the details of a recycling collection program.
It also opted to sole-source the contract for the program design to Morrison Hershfield.
While the additional monthly charge to residents and pickup schedule would be part of the program design, the most recent study on a possible program estimated a $15 monthly cost to residents for weekly pickup ($180 per year).
Council’s decision comes after the Raven Recycling Society closed its depot area for non-refundable recyclable materials Oct. 15. The organization argued the diversion credits it receives from the city and territory do not cover the cost of shipping out the materials.
The other recycler in the territory – P&M Recycling – has continued to accept non-refundable materials. The Yukon Blue Bin Recycling Society is also continuing its curbside collection of recyclables which are delivered to P&M.
Blue Bin customers pay $20 per month for the service every two weeks.
In a report to council Monday night, Shannon Clohosey, the city’s sustainability manager, noted: “Since the announcement from Raven Recycling of the closure of their public drop-off for non-refundables, mayor and council and administration have heard from many members of the public concerned about the future of recycling in Yukon.
“Whitehorse residents are strong supporters of waste diversion efforts and are keen to do their part to increase recycling.”
The report also cited a recently completed study, scheduled to be on the city’s website sometime today, on the costs and potential for a residential recycling collection service in the city.
Such a program would be paid for by users – similar to garbage and compost pickup where residents are charged for the service on their utility bills – which would “ensure a revenue source to the recycling processors for the materials that are collected. It would also provide a convenient method for residents to divert more waste.”
Before going ahead with a collection service, Clohosey said, “a number of decisions have to be made.”
Those include what materials would be accepted, how the service would be procured, a refinement of costs, the level of service, capital and operational requirements and the impact of involvement of other communities in the territory.
A survey planned for residents – among other factors – will be used to help determine some of those details.
“Program design for a recycling collection service would answer these questions and develop a plan for implementation,” Clohosey said.
By the time the program plan is finished, expected in late March 2015, the city would have a “turn-key plan that is ready to be implemented.”
Clohosey went on to note past work Morrison Hershfield has been contracted to do for the city. That includes reports on landfill cost, construction and demolition waste diversion, the solid waste management plan and the recycling processing and collection report.
“The firm has a detailed and in-depth understanding of waste management in Whitehorse and Yukon,” it was noted.
While the city has a goal of diverting 50 per cent of waste from the landfill by 2015, Clohosey said the current system for funding recycling through diversion credits isn’t sustainable.
The city provides $75/tonne for recycling diversion credits up to $150,000/year.
Staff looked at other options for supporting recycling. The most viable option is the collection service “that would fund both the collection and processing of recyclable materials.
“With the results of the recent study demonstrating the viability of a recycling collection service in Whitehorse, and the strong public support for recycling, administration proposes initiating a program design for a recycling collection service immediately.”
Sole-sourcing the contract to Morrison Hershfield allows the city to speed up the process.
“With the considerable experience experience that Morrison Hershfield has in the Whitehorse waste management system, administration has complete confidence in the quality of their work,” Clohosey said.
The company has a local office with local staff to work on the project.
The vote to move forward with the sole-source contract was unanimous by council in order to move ahead as quickly as possible.
A number of council members, however, emphasized they would normally take issue with such a contract advancing without a competitive process.
As Coun. Kirk Cameron commented, sole-source contracts go “against every fibre of my body.”
He then asked Clohosey to go over other projects Morrison Hershfield had worked on with the city. They included numerous initiatives around solid waste management, with all but one being awarded through a competitive process.
City manager Christine Smith also pointed out that while administration recommended sole-sourcing the program design to save months of time, there are likely to be other contracts under the recycling program which will be awarded through tenders or request for proposals.
Council members all noted the need to move forward as soon as possible in dealing with recycling.
“Our citizens are crying out for something right away,” said Coun. Jocelyn Curteanu.
Coun. Betty Irwin pointed out that the “public” has made it clear that if the city is not in crisis-mode now regarding recycling, it soon will be.
“This really is an urgent, urgent issue,” Mayor Dan Curtis said.
In an interview following last night’s meeting, Curtis said the details of the program will be determined through the program design.
However, he envisions a system similar to garbage and compost pickup, though it would likely be done by a third party determined through a bid process or request for proposals. Residents would pay for the service through a charge on their utility bill.
He acknowledged that the Yukon Blue Bin Society is already doing what the city is proposing, but noted city officials have spoken with officials in the Blue Bin society about the potential plan.
The society will have the opportunity to bid on the collection contract if the program goes in that direction.
A customer of the blue bin society, Curtis noted he envisions a system similar where residents would put out their non-refundable recycling for pickup. They would have the option to either return their refundable materials themselves or have the recycler collect them, with the money from the refunds going back to the contractor.
The blue bin group is doing an excellent job with its service, he said.
But by adding a city-wide recycling service to curbside collection on utility bills, more residents will be paying for the system, which will include both collection and processing to send down south.
The current system, he said, just isn’t working, and something has to be done.
“We don’t have a whole lot of choice,” Curtis said.
While there will likely be a number of residents not wanting to pay for the collection service, he conceded, there has been support for such a program expressed during budget consultations and since Raven’s partial closure for such a program.
Danny Lewis, Raven’s acting executive director, this morning described the city’s move as “certainly a step in the right direction.”
Raven would likely be interested in bidding on a potential collection contract, though Lewis acknowledged the blue bin group may be in a better position for that since it already has a collection service.
In the past, Raven hadn’t moved to a blue bin program because of its high cost.
Unless the entire community is on board with it, Lewis said, “the financial aspect is a challenge.”
Overall, he’s pleased with the city’s move, but noted it’s unclear what it could mean for Raven and the now-closed drop-off bins.
Meanwhile, at P&M Recycling, owner Pat McInroy said he hasn’t had a chance to review exactly what the city is proposing for a blue bin system so he can’t speak directly to it.
He did point out that the blue bin society already offers a recycling pick-up service.
Generally, McInroy doesn’t think recycling pick-up is something that should be mandated.
Since Raven’s bins closure, McInroy said, he’s seeing “at least double” the amount of non-refundable recycling coming in.
The jump in refundable materials arriving has not been as high, as Raven is continuing to collect refundables.
The blue bin society said it had not yet reviewed council’s decision so it wouldn’t be commenting on the matter today.
Coun. John Streicker attended Monday’s meeting by conference call.
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Comments (42)
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Horst Mueller on Nov 10, 2014 at 2:13 pm
From an Elder.
We were asked to recycle some 25 years ago and we did, all worked well, the improvements lately, I am sure at great expense, and Raven worked great. We sorted, rinsed the plastics if needed, thrown all in applicable bins, with a lot of other people judging by the traffic.
Now we are "told" to recycle and pay for it, a curb pickup has to be sorted by others, by highly paid COW Union workers? We sorted, delivered all this in the appropriate bins. Where is the saving?
Get rid of who came forward with this idea, it's not broken yet.
For a senior it makes no difference when the dump is full, so all goes in there from now.
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supporter of blue bins on Nov 9, 2014 at 9:25 am
I have been a customer of blue bins for over a year, they do a great job, do not rely on any government funding, and cost $5 more a month for a OPTIONAL service than the City is proposing, this whole idea seems crazy.
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north_of_60 on Nov 7, 2014 at 9:48 pm
Too much of our taxes goes to government staff on all levels who sit in offices and manage studies by consultants. Why are these positions not filled by people qualified to do the job? Have they all been promoted beyond their level of competence?
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woodcutter on Nov 7, 2014 at 4:58 pm
15 bucks does not sound much at first, but when I consider it for only a few cans and plastic milk cartons, it seems excessive. Its hard for me to visualize the dump being filled up and needing to some time in the future be closed, It is in a pile now, and while we are making mountains out of mole hills, we could just pile up the trash higher, like it has been done though out history.
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Wilf Carter Waste management system for the Yukon on Nov 7, 2014 at 12:56 pm
If there were some common sense by all sides maybe something can get done about the issues in waste management. Why doesn't the Yukon Government and the municipalities and First Nations governments just all get together and develop a integrated waste management system for all of the Yukon than there would be no more of this fault and blame B.....s between the politicians and elected governments. All governments put up funds to employ someone to develop an integrated waste management plan for the Yukon. Then take the integrated plan and send it out an RFP for the cost and someone to manage the operations.
The Yukon is small in population and it is not cost effective when all the different governments, public sponsored agencies are involved in waste management. The Yukon governments are wasting so much money on redundant programs and systems it has to get on with making changes so we can develop our future society. Can any elected official see that? Come on Liz, Sandy. Darrell and Dan you are the leaders who do think you are kidding by wasting tax payers money.
Another point, local kids I have talked to can't wait to get the h'''l out of here because of all this trap crap.
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Wilf Carter Community Services needs third party Audit Done Immediately on Nov 7, 2014 at 11:00 am
The Yukon Government Community Services has the obligation to make sure all the municipalities in the Yukon finances are managed properly. If there is major financial problems like the COW is facing now with 3.3 million dollars deficit and 12% tax increase that is a major problem. Seeing the Mayor will not co-operate with the Minister responsible for Community Services and would rather fight the situation has to be changed for the tax payers for the COW. Especially the tax payers of the COW have made their voice known that they want taxes to drop not go up. Under the Municipal Act the Yukon Government has the responsibility to bring in a third party manager to correct the mess the COW is in! This also means that the Mayor and Council are resolved and new elections are held. Best solution to all of this is the Mayor and Council just resign and appoint an auditor as their last act to run the COW. So do the right thing for the people of COW and just resign before it is to late.
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Charles on Nov 7, 2014 at 2:56 am
@Moose, we are going off topic; this is about new fees for recycling, but comments on your post. 'you do realize the city stopped giving money to Sima' - after how much? 'refusing to fund the bowling alley' -some of us remember COW not allowing bowling lanes to be removed from Takhini Rec Centre to MMRC because COW would not compete with private business. Private business has now closed & bowlers are without lanes! ' Where is this 'out of control' spending you speak of?' Are you joking??? 'Also, if we don't recycle more....' - quit buying garbage that needs recycling & give a message to manufacturers/producers of that garbage.
@justathought: I agree but suspect COW receives a hefty fee from other communities to use our dump so more chink, chink in COW coffers, but what about closer non COW residents who slide into dump and dump.
Who will pay to open a new dump when present is full?. You guessed it, COW residents. Some of us remember the clean up of the previous dump & opening of present which was recognised as best real estate with a view at the time. Bottom line, if you don't live in City limits; take your cr*p elsewhere & pay because we are tired!
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Mark Smith on Nov 6, 2014 at 8:37 pm
I like the idea but not the cost. Increased taxes will be a hardship for many and the city rushes too quickly into things.
They built a world class trail for bikes and walkers and now seem to want to put traffic lights and motorized vehicles on it. Where is the voice of reason?
Who in council will stand up and represent the silent majority who don't have much disposable income and want value for their tax dollars? SIMA may be in the past but the city is rushing into a spending frenzy with our money.
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north_of_60 on Nov 6, 2014 at 6:49 pm
NO, curbside recycling is NOT an urgent issue, it's not even a necessary one.
It IS a waste of hard-earned taxpayer dollars to even be studying it with another expensive report by southern' experts'.
Here's a really "urgent urgent issue" for the CoW --
Terminate the Department of Sustainability and use that money to fund Raven Recycling and make it 'sustainable'.
Do something right for a change; surprise us.
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north_of_60 on Nov 6, 2014 at 6:09 pm
Of course it’s going to be more expensive than taking it to Raven at $180 per year, but hey, it’s “sustainable” so don’t complain, eh?
The money wasted on this ‘curbside fiasco’ should be spent to keep Raven open. That would benefit ALL Whitehorse residents, not just those with curbs.
It seems obvious now that the CoW cut funding for Raven so they could compete with their own inefficient recycling system. This is just another blatant waste of my hard-earned tax dollars.
Why do we need a Sustainability Manager and a Department of Sustainability Department, when all it seems to do is give out big fat un-tendered contracts to outside companies?
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justathought on Nov 6, 2014 at 2:49 pm
Moose: before the City of Whitehorse landfill reaches the full stage, perhaps we should stop accepting garbage from outside the City of Whitehorse?
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Moose on Nov 6, 2014 at 11:08 am
uhh Wilf.....you do realize the city stopped giving money to Sima right? Is this a lack of respect for taxpayers? How about refusing to fund the bowling alley? Refusing to fund Raven? Where is this 'out of control' spending you speak of?
Also, if we don't recycle more....we have to close down the dump and open a new one....any guess what the bill for that will be?
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The Sustainability Manager says this is urgent on Nov 6, 2014 at 9:50 am
The Mayor says the Cities main responsibility is to provide water, sewage, garbage and infrastructure?
Well, we certainly get a lot of “sewage and garbage” from him.
But let’s say he’s right. Then explain Sima, explain my taxes going up when all I see are services going down, explain the $180 dollars more a year he wants to take from someone on social assistance or a pension when they already pay a recycling fee for that bottle, explain why now I get taxed twice on that same bottle, explain why you’re trying to put P&M out of business and I can’t get back a few cents or let a local kids hockey team make a few? Explain why the sky is falling today, or is it someone in a made up job (Sustainability Manager?) trying to justify her position - that one has to be a text book example of a bureaucracy gone mad, and only sustaining itself.
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Not in a hurry on Nov 6, 2014 at 9:49 am
Let's talk about the truth here (and isn't that obvious anyway?):
Does somebody really think that the 15 bucks a month is going towards the recycling costs??? Of course not! There are many things the city needs more money for - here some examples:
1. Expansion of transit (route 6 - another bus is running on a weird route and schedule)
2. Creating and maintaining of our new "parks" in the future
3. Maintaining of our own little "Sahara (Whistle Bend)"
4. Creating of more expensive manager positions (what is a sustainability manager doing the whole day anyway...?)
And I guess that the next "surprise" is not far away: Water meters...
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What urgent on Nov 5, 2014 at 5:51 pm
What is urgent is we remove this Mayor and Council before they destroy the COW.
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yukon56 on Nov 5, 2014 at 5:07 pm
Enough is enough, this government has to go!!!! I am tired of being an open wallet to overpaid city workers
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Wayne on Nov 5, 2014 at 4:33 pm
Taxes, and fees, should be declining. Surely a solution to any problem the CoW is having can be resolved by cutting expenditures everywhere.
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Wilf Carter - it is time to Recycle the Mayor and Council on Nov 5, 2014 at 4:19 pm
Dave S. You have been around a long time, can you get some control on how the Mayor Council are operating? We are going to be seen as a City that does not know what we are doing. Businesses and investors will not come here. Giving $500,000 to one developer is wrong. You need to stop the rabbit hole management of the COW finances. The COW will go bankrupt if we don't stop this insane lack of respect for tax payers. All this is out of control left wing elected officials who do not understand public finances. I feel sorry for the staff that to have to work in this environment. So tax payers of the COW why don't you recycle the Mayor Council so we don't have to listen to them anymore. I have never seen a region go so low so fast. These action will kill the economy.
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Jim on Nov 5, 2014 at 1:31 pm
I am wondering how much the executive directors are making at Raven, this is like Sima give us more money, that has not been in the paper. Also I agree that the city only knows how to add more fees(taxes) and services are reduced. Time to look at the real picture and not just a few special interest people who are looking to make money from the fees. I have been using P&M for years as was tired of Raven saying they want more money and they did get gov. money. That's my rant
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so not ok on Nov 5, 2014 at 11:50 am
The Sole Source was for $100,000 and to an outside of the Yukon company. How is that ok and how can it be justified?
The excuse of "it's something we need right now" is not a sole source excuse. That is a poor planning excuse. Tenders do not have to go out long. They could have this out to tender and awarded within a month. What's another month in the grand scheme of things?!
If it went to tender, it might cost less and there might be local interest...but what do I know!?
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I Support this as long as it costs me $$ that's relative to the service being provided on Nov 5, 2014 at 11:13 am
Let's get real here. $15 a month is a paltry amount for what I'm assuming is going to be a weekly pickup. These kinds of services are standard in other large communities and only make financial sense when the community as a whole contributes towards its development. While I don't enjoy spending money, I fully realize that for basic services such as waste collection, this modest amount spread throughout an entire community is more than reasonable.
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Proscience Greenie on Nov 5, 2014 at 10:14 am
Is the sustainability manager position sustainable? Would cutting that position make up for the extra $15 they say is needed?
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J White on Nov 5, 2014 at 8:34 am
June Jackson, I can't imagine that any reasonable person thinks that dumping their garbage on a trail could be an effective, or even recognized, form of protest. And anyone living in the city has regular garbage pickup, so why dump it in the trails? On the other hand, some fool in Crestview has been dumping fast food containers on Azure Road for years. I think fools like that will continue to do their thing, no matter what garbage/recycle programs are in place.
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Yukonuck on Nov 5, 2014 at 8:31 am
Take-back programs in the retail market appear lacking in Whitehorse. If a business sells a product it should expect to handle all components thru landfill diversion. How many big box stores send their trucks out of Whitehorse "empty"? Perhaps a No take-back program for all products means hefty business licence fee in our fine city. Remember, our purchase has already paid for delivery of the goods and return trip for the transport. Consumers -Ask for take-back before you buy!
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Hold er there Partner on Nov 4, 2014 at 11:44 pm
I wonder if the transit buses that run around mostly empty could be commandeered for picking up recyclables during non-peak hrs for a couple of days every other week. Dual purpose if you will. They could even pull a pup trailer just like Greyhound for even more capacity.
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What is the real recycling problem? on Nov 4, 2014 at 11:02 pm
I didn't think the recycling problem had anything to do with having the non-refundables being picked up from homes, as the citizens dedicated to recycling seem to have no problem dropping them off at the recycle centre. Was Raven's problem the expense of shipping it elsewhere after that? I totally resent the idea of paying extra to have my recycles picked up, when I've been a dedicated recycler for many years and have no problem with dropping off the stuff myself at the recycle centre. Once again, is the City just trying to do a quick band aid fix at the taxpayers expense?
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Doug Rutherford on Nov 4, 2014 at 9:17 pm
So, basically, we now look at the water/sewer/garbage fee being increased ~20% to cover an additional service.
If the city wants to increase services, then, like the rest of us, they should have to do it with what they already have. Too many councils have added additional tax costs for additional services in the past that have offered the taxpayers nothing but the aggrandizement of council.
Maybe we need a new rule. If taxes or city costs increase more than the cost of living, council is required to resign and no mayor or council member is permitted to run in the following two city elections.
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Charles on Nov 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm
Way to go COW, take the easy socailist way out and dump extra fees on all residents, whether they need it or not. I do not eat out of many cans, glass jars or boxes, but I am supposed to subsidize the fast food folk who do? My refundables go to Raven 2-3 times year, my garbage is one small bag 1-2 weeks, and COW only gets weeds that I don't want in my home compost. Already paying for services that I don't fully utilize and definitely rebel at paying for another.
Maybe public education is called for. COW could also have more free or low cost dump days for non refundables. Another option would have been Raven having inside bins & charging a drop off fee for non refundables, although that may lead to more bush dumping as June mentioned. Strange thing is that most compost could be dumped in bush with little environmental damage so why not swap compost pick up with recyclable pick up? @Concerned, COW monthly sidewalk clearing is something I would gladly pay an extra $15.00 per month for. Our sidewalk is clean; getting too old for shovelling, but not too old to cook food from scratch & utilize left overs..
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Josey Wales on Nov 4, 2014 at 7:14 pm
Seems our "Sustainability Manager" is ignorant to how to RESPECTFULLY wear a poppy?
Funny that eh, shows a disrespect to those who serve(d) but our countrymen alike. But hey she draws her salary ramming emotional rhetoric down our collective throats under the guise of "mother earth" as she does so.
Another CoW civic blowhole telling us how it is, what a hall of fools that nobles castle!
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Mr.Rogers on Nov 4, 2014 at 7:14 pm
Ah, I want to rape and pillage and don't want to pay a damn dime for it. Get a grip people, you live in the north, you live in relatively pristine wilderness, but many of your comments tell me you don't give a damn. 15 bucks is a steal to have road side pick up. I'll gladly pay for it, it's the least I can do.
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sean on Nov 4, 2014 at 5:42 pm
Let people deal with their own recyclables I don't need to pay another $185 a year for a service I will hardly use. My current recycling structure is cans and bottles go to friends kids and everything else gets separated and when the containers are full I take them to the dump. Cost to me is $5 dollars every 3 months or so. If people want their recycling picked up at home on a regular basis there is a service already provided by the public sector for just that.
I don't know how this went from we need a specific recycling center to needing curbside pickup paid for by our taxes. There are still recycling options in town and I don't think this is a good one
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tbone on Nov 4, 2014 at 5:40 pm
Will this be available for country residential folks? Recycling is important to us to. We are still residents of Whitehorse. We pay higher property tax rates so if you're using general coffers $'s to support this I hope a solution includes us.
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I did some math on Nov 4, 2014 at 5:32 pm
The Canada 2011 Census indicates that there were 10,525 private dwellings in Whitehorse. $15 x 10,525 houses x 12 months is a whopping $1,894,500 new monies that would be collected by the City each year from residential homes alone. Does someone think that a private business or a not-for-profit might like this type of revenue? I assume the City will also now get its hands on the Yukon Government diversion credits that Raven was receiving.
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BnR on Nov 4, 2014 at 5:30 pm
For the people who think we pay too much for city services, think again. For the amenities we have, in a city this size, for what we pay, this is utopia.
People who visit from other provincial capitals are blown away by what we have, and how little we pay for it.
Everyone seems to want something for nothing. Services cost money, bottom line.
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Who says this is urgent? on Nov 4, 2014 at 5:19 pm
This is just great .. Council gets into a pissing match with Brad Cathers and does this just to show him! Meanwhile a City Manager who makes $160,000 a year wants me on a fixed income to pay $15 more a month to the City ... Where is the broad support? Sure talk to Raven who stands to get more dollars and other special interest groups and well paid City Planners and Managers and now you have "broad support". Hold a referendum and really find out who supports this cash grab by a Council that can't manage it's own cheque book!
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Max Mack on Nov 4, 2014 at 5:13 pm
This is a joke, right? On top of increased environmental fees on a broader range of products (which CoW backs), and increased funding to Raven (which Cow will undoubtedly back, which will result in increased taxes AGAIN), we will now have IMPOSED curbside recycling at a cost of $15 per month (to start - expect this to jump to $20 per month within a year or two, then $30 per month).
Meanwhile, monthly sewer/water/garbage fees continue to climb and landfill fees keep going up and up.
I can't afford a real holiday or retirement. Apparently, however, I can fund the radical environmentalist's dream of a perfect recycling society.
AARRGGHHH!
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June Jackson on Nov 4, 2014 at 4:38 pm
In theory, it would be really great to have all our garbage, recyclables reclaimed. But, in practice, people do not want to pay more. There are so many off roads and trails that all anyone has to do is keep anything with their name on it out of their garbage and.. dump off road. And people do it too..Some because they just don't have the money and others as a kind of passive protest. Between Paslowski's government and City Hall, folks have had enough.
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I support it as long as it doesn't cost me $$ on Nov 4, 2014 at 4:37 pm
"“Whitehorse residents are strong supporters of waste diversion efforts and are keen to do their part to increase recycling.” Agreed - but for $15/month on top of already-high bills? I don't think so ... Find a way to do this without raising utility bills, and I'll support it - otherwise, NO!
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Sole Source on Nov 4, 2014 at 4:18 pm
Funny how there is NO mention on how much the sole source contract is for....
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hmmm on Nov 4, 2014 at 3:42 pm
I, and everyone I speak to, do not want to pay more money for City services. We already pay too much! we don't want this service. This is a private sector issue, let them deal with it.
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... this is BS on Nov 4, 2014 at 3:38 pm
Who is the genius coming up with ways to pull money from my pocket book ... let me give my recyclables to the local hockey teams versus charging me for a service I won't use.
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Concerned about my money on Nov 4, 2014 at 3:14 pm
Why doesn't the city start enforcing the bylaws it currently has (EG Snow Removal from sidewalks). If they did this, they would make a fortune!