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‘These statistics demand a response’: NDP

The territory’s liquor stores may close earlier with new regulations next spring, according to the minister responsible for the Yukon Liquor Corp.

By Gabrielle Plonka on October 23, 2020

The territory’s liquor stores may close earlier with new regulations next spring, according to the minister responsible for the Yukon Liquor Corp.

“We’ve been considering restrictions on off-sales hours since we worked on the new (Liquor) Act,” John Streicker told reporters Wednesday.

“The big question was around how we could try to achieve more social responsibility around alcohol.”

Streicker said round-table discussions have taken place among off-sales businesses, the territory’s chief medical officer and the RCMP to explore harm reduction regarding alcohol.

Those conversations happened in preparation for changing regulations to accompany the updated Liquor Act.

Those new regulations are tentatively set for implementation in April.

“One of the clear suggestions was around the hours of our off-sales,” Streicker said.

In 2016, while the government of former Yukon Party premier Darrell Pasloski was in office, off-sales hours were adjusted, enabling the businesses to stay open from 9 a.m. to 2 a.m. Establishments had previously been required to close at midnight.

Streicker said it’s possible that the midnight closing time will be reinstated.

Liz Hanson, the NDP MLA for Whitehorse Centre, highlighted during Wednesday’s question period that problems have arisen since the hours were extended.

Hanson cited the Putting People First Report, a comprehensive review of health and social services released last May.

“The panel reported that, since the increase in liquor off-sales hours, hospitalizations caused entirely by alcohol increased by 19 per cent in one year,” Hanson said.

“If this government is serious about addressing addiction and its impact on our health care system, these statistics demand a response.”

Hanson said the report showed that longer off-sales hours significantly increase alcohol consumption and the associated alcohol-related harms.

In 2018-19, there were 296 hospitalizations in the Yukon caused by alcohol, according to the Canadian Institute for Health Information.

That report drew a connection between hospitalizations and the longer off-sales hours, Hanson said.

Streicker said the liquor corporation is aware that the off-sales hours are posing a problem.

“The reason that’s the bigger issues is because, often, it’s when people choose to extend their drinking that it becomes less responsible drinking,” Streicker told reporters.

Hanson additionally noted that the Yukon is seeing heightened alcohol consumption in young teenagers.

Alcohol-related hospitalizations for youth aged 10-24 were three times higher in the Yukon in 2017-18 than the national average. According to the Yukon Liquor Corp., less than five youth aged 10-14 were hospitalized for harm caused by alcohol that year.

Hanson told reporters she is encouraged by the government’s plan to pull back off-sales hours, but would like to see clearer legislation around rules governing those businesses.

Hanson noted that Big Bear off-sales, located in Whitehorse Centre, was advertised to MLAs as a food-primary endeavour before it opened.

“I was told it was food-related off-sales, but … the new legislation wasn’t clear and it doesn’t specify that you actually have to be part of the same establishment,” Hanson said.

As it stands, the off-sales store operates with different opening hours than the restaurant in the same building.

“There’s a cognitive dissonance between the conversations that may have been going on with licensees and the government moving towards reducing the hours,” Hanson said.

“You know, I’m not the temperance lady – I’m saying we have a responsibility and we have to put a link between what are actions are and what our words are.”

Comments (23)

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Spud on Oct 29, 2020 at 3:45 pm

tmyk, you seem to be pretty good at throwing info out there that has no real facts attached to it. If in fact you cannot back up your comments, stfu.

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TMYK on Oct 29, 2020 at 11:37 am

@EJ - The location was selected by the previous government because it was the only location the CoW would let it be built. It was also running fine before the Liberals decided to take it over because a few mid level managers convinced Frost that it would be better run by government.

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Wilf Carter on Oct 28, 2020 at 4:48 pm

Wood cutter - Yukon has lost one election to liberals because they are saying nothing of any value. We now have problems in Highways, Ec Dev, Community Service, Health care, municipal services EMR etc. which we did not have before the liberal took government.
As far as fund raising! What is liberals doing to get one big money donation of $106,000 and who is it? Did someone get a contract and give liberals in the Yukon money just like what the Federal liberals have done in the past and present? Remember all the contracts going to liberal supporters under Jean C and then were charged and went to jail?
IT is about reasonable government and we don't have it in Yukon or Ottawa now.

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woodcutter on Oct 28, 2020 at 3:29 pm

@ wilf

Liberals don't need to buy votes, they out fund raise the conservatards, out campaign them and don't attract the same caliber of folks that flood the comment section, that the folks on the right do.

It's no wonder you all haven't won an election in 2 cycles, it appears you won't in the next one cause of all the hate that gets repeatedly demonstrated. What a clown show.

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EJ on Oct 27, 2020 at 8:52 pm

@Sheepchaser
Yes I've heard the Yukon Party chose to build the new shelter in that location because one of their backroom buddies owned the land and was having a hard time selling it. I don't know for sure but would be interesting for a journalist to dig into who owned the land prior. I mean why else would they choose such a poor location next to an offsales place (Big Beer Donair) that was newly established? Plus the guy I heard it from isn't one to tell lies.

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SheepChaser on Oct 27, 2020 at 12:18 pm

So all this drama to say one thing: the offsales right next to the shelter is serving people exactly what they want. Self-harm. And the great white saviour will solve that problem with paperwork.

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Mashed Potatoes on Oct 26, 2020 at 9:42 pm

GnD, sir I thank you for your further clarification of your original comment. Previously I was left with the impression that you were on your high horse preaching to the masses about something that you had never lived. Again thank you and to a certain extent I now agree with you.

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Groucho d'North on Oct 26, 2020 at 2:20 pm

@ Mashed Potatoes
I don’t normally explain my earlier comments but with all the ‘woke’ people now participating in social media, I find that I must take some extra time to express myself more clearly sometimes.
Reread my offending remarks and you will read that I did not say they wanted to be oppressed by their addictions; rather I said they are content with their present lot in life. They have no motivation to improve themselves.
I say these things from the informed position of somebody who was in the grip of addiction for better than 46 years. During that term I tried numerous times to quit my addiction and each time I gave up and went back to the lazy acceptance of my self-imposed dependency, that does not mean I didn’t want to be happy and healthy again, I did but I was not prepared to make the required effort to succeed.
Make no mistake quitting an addiction is hard, it was the hardest thing I have ever done so far, but one day I suffered a stroke which got my attention and underlined the urgency of my situation which distilled to its essence said: Stop this or die.
So I applied myself every waking hour of each day to combating my addiction, and it was painful some times, but I persevered and was successful. I am still an addict, but thankfully I’m now the non-practicing kind.
I can slip if I’m not smart and aware of how easily I could be seduced back to a life of addiction, so even today I remain diligent to avoid situations where there is an opportunity for me to slip and fail.
Rather than catering to maintaining the affected people with the ‘wet’ housing and similar programs that help addicts to remain prisoners of their addictions, I would much rather see programs in place to help addicts to get past the difficulties of quitting so they may be whole again.
Read about Robert Downy Jr and his wondrous addictions reversal, he was an inspiration for me and many others. Addictions can be beaten, but you have to want it bad enough to apply yourself to succeed.

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Mashed Potatoes on Oct 24, 2020 at 10:53 pm

GnD, over the years you have said some pretty ridiculous things and it is obvious that you have issues. However, this comment has got to be one of the most ignorant that I have ever read. To think anyone wants a life like that has got to be one of the most misinformed comments that you have made and you have made some real winners!!

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Better Life on Oct 24, 2020 at 6:54 pm

Nathan - How about our politicians have some empathy for the ‘winos’, ‘druggies’, the ‘eventual’ and ‘society’ at large and do the right thing! What about that FFS! Why must it always be enabling? Why is it racist to arrest individuals who are breaking the law? Why isn’t it racism to allow them to continue their substance use and law violating behaviour?

“You people” have gone mental! They should be forcibly removed from the streets, detoxed, certified as not ever being able to consume alcohol or drugs ever again, and given jobs as Liberal Party staffers.

Oh wait a minute... Liberal Party staffers... We want them to have a better life.

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abc on Oct 24, 2020 at 5:25 pm

As an aside, how many hospitalizations due to cannabis consumption since legalization two years ago? Or ever, in the Yukon? Zero? Maybe someone had too many edibles and ended up at the ER?

How many deaths from cannabis toxicity? Zero? Compare with alcohol cirrhosis, cancer, etc.
I wish people would lighten up on the booze, and if they must get help in being free from life's trouble by being 'high' or impaired, at least choose cannabis. It could be part of the solution, I don't know.

My biggest worry is FAS, not the adults who drink, but the adults who force feed a fetus booze until its brain is mostly destroyed. How is that not child abuse, if they intend to carry the pregnancy to term? And I am pro-choice, pro-women's rights big time. But women have to step up to the plate and speak the truth when something is just unnacceptably wrong.

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Groucho d'North on Oct 24, 2020 at 5:04 pm

@ Nathan Living
Empathy? I have plenty but it is important to recognize what has changed over the past twenty or so years. These people with the addictions are no longer in charge of their own lives. They have become wards of the state where some under 30 year old policy wonks determine what options the afflicted qualify for. Before the Centre of Lost Hope was built, many of these folks were housed in the WCC and a long time back they had programs that helped them to have some self-esteem by repairing toys for the Xmas toy drive. The toys were donated to families in need in the communities by service clubs and the RCMP. The inmates had pride when the community people wrote cards of thanks to them and they were motivated to do more. Some of the bad boys would also under supervision cut, split, deliver and stack firewood for the elders in their community. Just a couple little low-cost programs that helped these folks to gather some pride so they could look their elders and community members in the eye and demonstrate they were at least trying to make their lives better. What we have today is like neutering them in a drug or alcohol fueled daze. Hell we treat cattle better.

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EJ on Oct 24, 2020 at 4:30 pm

TMYK Not sure what you mean about NVD being in bed with the Liberals? If you really look into it you would realize that many of the Yukon Party folks fled to NVD after they lost the last election (including their Chief of Staff). Many of their top people even sit on their executive to this day. I can guarantee you if the Yukon Party wins the next election at least 3 of their top executives I know, will be employed by Currie Dixon in key positions.

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EJ on Oct 24, 2020 at 4:24 pm

Sorry Wilf dawg but you are wrong.

The extended hours were put into place in 2016 by the Yukon Party. That is what led to the increased hospitalizations. Hopefully the Libs will now reverse this mistake of the Pasloski/Dixon regime.

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Max Mack on Oct 24, 2020 at 3:01 pm

Take any report coming from CIHI with a huge grain of salt. And linking later off-sales with an increase in alcohol hospitalizations is problematic on a number of fronts.

Forcing off-sales to close 2 hours earlier simply ensures that people leaving the bars at last call have nowhere to legally get their booze for after-bar parties. The natural result is that folks will turn to bootleggers.

Rather than achieving any positive result, setting off-sales back to midnight will result in an increase in 'criminal' activities as people find ways to skirt the rules.

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Nathan Living on Oct 24, 2020 at 1:39 pm

Seriously Groucho where is your empathy.
I think we should treat addictions with respect but not allow the behaviour to affect our city.

Why not just ship them off to a detox camp outside of town and treat them for addiction and provide opportunities to do outside work.
This would be much cheaper than the hospital and nuisance RCMP calls.

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Wilf Carter on Oct 24, 2020 at 1:14 pm

So close booze shops before people get off work. The results of that is every one who drinks must leave early. Great plan liberals. Liberals again trying to buy votes with our money not theirs's.

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Groucho d'North on Oct 24, 2020 at 10:18 am

All this data and still it's far from clear.
How many are chronic winos putting pressure on the ER and other services?
How many are new recruits to the life of the perpetually impaired?

Changing the hours of operation will not change these behaviors other than to encourage them to do their shopping or shop-lifting earlier in the day.
What's missing is self control and perhaps some self respect. Yes I know it is now called a disease and different sympathies are supposed to be provided to them. But like any other addiction, you will not get better until you WANT to get better. Many of these lost souls do not want to get better, they are content in the world they have made for themselves as they blame other circumstances for their lot in life.

Perhaps focus more attention on the innocent children born to a life of FASD because of the poor judgment of their parents.

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Wilf Carter on Oct 23, 2020 at 8:14 pm

So big money buys Yukon Liberal party, wow. But it not who we think it is.

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CN Resident on Oct 23, 2020 at 5:50 pm

TMYK, The homeless shelter was built by Currie Dixon and his pals. It was their big spend as the door was hitting their rear end last term. Seems like you have a personal issue with NVD.

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Matthew on Oct 23, 2020 at 5:17 pm

In 2018-19, there were 779 hospitalizations in the Yukon caused by alcohol, according to the Canadian Institute for Health Information
Oh... so that's 775 more than Covid.. but didn't we shut down the economy for Covid?

Even in Alberta over 400 opioid deaths thus year alone... that far out numbers dead from Covid in AB..
They care so much but funny how liquor licenses are getting booze at discounted rates right now too..

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JR. on Oct 23, 2020 at 4:00 pm

Most liquor stores in NWT close at the latest 10 PM on the weekends and off sales not long after.

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TMYK on Oct 23, 2020 at 3:57 pm

So private businesses selling alcohol are bad. The Liberal homeless shelter giving people alcohol is good. Got it. If the Liberals really cared they would move the Liquor Store out of downtown. But NVD owns the building they rent the space from so we all know that won't happen,

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