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A PRODUCTION IN FULL SWING – Students perform in a MAD variety show in September 2018 at the Wood Street Centre, whose spacious quarters allow plenty of space for productions involving scaffolds, as seen above.

‘There was no consultation whatsoever’

Educators and students are speaking out against the plan to move an experiential theatre program out of the Wood Street Centre this year.

By Gabrielle Plonka on July 13, 2020

Educators and students are speaking out against the plan to move an experiential theatre program out of the Wood Street Centre this year.

“My recommendation would be to have every parent pull their kid from the program, because it’s not going to fly,” Jeff Nordlund, founder of the Music, Art and Drama (MAD) theatre program, told the Star this morning.

Last Thursday afternoon, the Department of Education announced its plan for the 2020-21 school year.

To enable physical spacing, Grade 8 students from F.H. Collins Secondary School will attend classes in the Wood Street Centre.

All experiential programs, including MAD and the outdoor education program, will move into available space at F.H. Collins and Porter Creek Secondary Schools.

MAD is an alternative learning program for students in Grades 9 to 12 with a focus on drama, stagecraft, music and dance.

Public outcry has emerged on social media since the announcement was made. A Facebook group, “Stop the MAD Program move,” saw 281 members join over the weekend.

Students, parents and MAD alumni have posted to the page, criticizing the decision to relocate the program.

There is discussion of starting a petition, and several people say they’ve already contacted the Yukon government with their concerns. 

Nordlund, who has been retired since 2017, founded MAD 27 years ago, and says moving the program won’t work.

The Wood Street Centre – formerly Christ the King Elementary School – is equipped with a lighting grid and theatre lighting system; sound system; configurable risers and extensive set supplies.

The gymnasium is home to a black box theatre that was built incrementally over 10 years.

MAD students present an average of three major performances in the theatre every year.

“I wonder if the (Education department) and government officials are even aware of the financial investment that is involved in this fantastic performance space,” Nordlund said in a post to the Facebook group.

Part of MAD’s power is that it operates outside of a traditional high school, Nordlund told the Star.

Students find creative freedom in a private environment with their peers, without the social pressures that exist in a large school.

“Nobody thinks about the power of the program, and the reason it operates that way is because it’s at Wood Street,” Nordlund said.

The program founder says the Wood Street Centre creates an alternative learning environment that can’t be replicated at another location.

“Kids are moving about all day doing dance, choreography, they are acting on stage, people are doing tech while some people are doing costumes and then we’re rehearsing for shows,” Nordlund said.

The MAD program uses three classrooms on the upper floor of Wood Street Centre. Nordlund argues that these classrooms are suitable for MAD students, but won’t work for the Grade 8 students slated to study there.

He estimates that seven Wood Street classrooms will only fit 12 to 15 students each, and many of the centre’s other rooms are currently jam-packed with costumes, set supplies and outdoor education gear. 

This year, 135 Grade 8 students will attend classes in the Wood Street Centre, according to the Education department.

“Moving the Grade 8 classes from F.H. Collins to the Wood Street Centre will minimize the disruption for these 135 students,” Education Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee said in an email.

Nordlund questions why Grade 8 students aren’t moved directly to Porter Creek, if there’s space there, rather than forcing two student shuffles.

If Education officials had discussed the move with students and staff, he said, a different decision may have been made.

“There was no consultation whatsoever –– it came down from somewhere upstairs.”

Nordlund also noted that realistically, a theatre program cannot continue with physical distancing rules.

Students most likely can’t put on theatrical productions while staying two metres apart, he said.

“If you’re going to call a spade a spade, shut everything down,” Nordlund said.

MAD alumna and NDP Leader Kate White told the Star this morning she was disappointed with the lack of consultation before deciding to move the program.

“I think it’s short-sighted,” White said.

“I can’t believe this decision was made without talking to the administrators of that program; what we see is government not recognizing that they’ve invested money into retrofitting that school to work.”

White said not enough consideration has been given to MAD’s theatre space requirements.

“An experiential program is set up in a different way from traditional classrooms,” White noted.

“Saying you’re just going to move this program to a standard school is not recognizing all the work and all the research –– it’s been running many years, so the understanding of what works for that type of learning –– it just won’t work.”

White added that a plan needs to be made for protecting the theatre and equipment in the Wood Street Centre if a shift is going to take place.

She noted that the gymnasium is not set up to host regular physical education classes for the Grade 8 students, as that’s where the black box theatre is set up.

“How do we protect that equipment and that investment?” White asked.

She said the announcement of the school plan has left many questions unanswered for families.

McPhee responded to the backlash with the email statement to the Star this morning.

“We are pleased that the experiential programs, including MAD, will remain available to students,” McPhee said.

She said plans and preparation for the program’s move are ongoing, but all equipment and supplies will be transported to the new locations.

“The health and safety of staff and students is our top priority as we plan to have students return to class for the 2020-21 school year,” McPhee wrote.

“The focus of our preliminary planning is ensuring as many students as possible return to full day in-class instruction. 

“To meet the health and safety guidance for schools, support safe spacing, and manage traffic flows in schools, some school programming needs to be temporarily relocated for the 2020-21 school year.”

Finalized school operation plans will be shared with students and families before the beginning of the school year, McPhee said.

Comments (20)

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Moose on Jul 18, 2020 at 10:25 pm

@Doug Tuberculosis

Yeah I support the local Liberals and think they are doing a good job. Not so much federally (I wish Freeland would take over). It's rather funny that you think I'm paid to do so as some kind of political party staffer though, lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

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Supportive Parent on Jul 18, 2020 at 9:44 am

In regards to Engaged Citizen and their oh so diplomatic response, let's be honest here... it is a Cadillac of schools. Don't take it so personally that I frame in in those terms. There is absolutely no reason why there needed to be such a high end school built in Whitehorse and one needs only to do the math as to the cost per student. In excess of 30 million dollars for a school that will house and I will maintain only 30 Francophone students this upcoming school year (I have heard that from multiple sources). Whereas FH Collins cost 54 million for student population of 700. The Francophone community can push back and say it also stands as a "community" centre in tandem... but they have the Francophone community centre in downtown already. Does that not suffice?

In addition to that, do architects think about the long term O&M costs of building these massive infrastructure projects that may look physically good, but the functionality of the space and longterm growth are not part of their equation?

I'm not anti-French, I believe in the importance of ensuring there is infrastructure and programming to enrich the lives of all communities. I support strong public institutions and services, but am fearful that if we piss away money on infrastructure that is overblown with high O&M costs per capita will only cause us to inevitably not be able to provide high public service to the community at large.

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DougTB on Jul 16, 2020 at 2:24 pm

And there's Moose the staffer defending his party's honour again.

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Donovan on Jul 16, 2020 at 12:55 pm

@Moose......Yes BUT, Ms Mcphee acts more like a Con when it comes to education. In fact this guberment acts more like Con's than Liberals. (transparency, spending in most departments, and they are better than the Cons at shirking responsibility and non-consultations.)

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Engaged Citizen on Jul 16, 2020 at 12:33 pm

Re: Supportive Parent, Michelle and Moose101. Here are a few facts to help inform this discussion:
1. The Francophone school board already has a space-sharing agreement in place with FH Collins and so students will eventually be able to benefit from some of the available spaces in the new Francophone secondary school.
2. However, the school is still under construction and won’t be ready for August. In fact, there is still no official opening date and so it cannot be a solution for the start of this school year.
3. The school is projected to open with nearly 90 students (nearly 60% of its capacity) and that number is expected to climb quickly. With extra space for 60 students at best this year, it simply can't be the entire answer to the space needs of FH Collins.
4. In regards to this being a "Cadillac" school, it is definitely a nice school, but it won't provide any spaces that aren't already available to every other student attending the other secondary schools in Whitehorse. Also, it is useful to remember that until now, Francophone secondary students haven't had access to the amazing facilities that students and parents in other schools take for granted (like a space to teach trades or music). If people take a step back, I think it is possible to see that attacking Francophones over this new facility because a person feels that FH Collins could have been built differently is neither fair nor productive.
As we continue to navigate these difficult times, in the words of Bonnie Henry, let’s continue to be kind, be calm and be safe.

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Moose on Jul 15, 2020 at 8:42 pm

@Donovan - I think you have the Liberals and Conservatives mixed up lol. It is always the conservatives (in Yukon they try and disguise themselves by saying "Yukon Party") who don't want things to progress and would rather return to the 1950s which they often refer to as the good old days. The Liberals are the ones who legalized pot, put in place most LGBTQ rights, legalized assisted suicide etc. Notice how the conservatives always vote against such things.

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moose101 on Jul 15, 2020 at 8:06 am

I agree with supportive parent - take over half of that new french school that will only be 1/4 to 1/3 full and put students in a real classroom. Why should they have all that excess space?

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Donovan on Jul 15, 2020 at 5:51 am

Liberals..."If it's not an approved 1950's education plan we want no part of it. How dare people demand a better education system than the antiquated system we had growing up"

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One One-Lesser-Voice on Jul 14, 2020 at 6:26 pm

Ok, MADD students should continue at Wood Street and the half day at school and working half day at home needs rethinking as well.
We could have full school days without much covid risk. Think about cashiers in town and how the grocery stores stayed open.

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Suck it up on Jul 14, 2020 at 5:06 pm

Well if moving it won't work, then cancel it. Real school and real students take precedence over entitled drama geeks and their play school any day.

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Michelle on Jul 14, 2020 at 3:54 pm

Instead if moving the grade 8 students to Wood Street, how about using space in the new french school? We already know they do not have very many high school students using that space.

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Roger G Gillies on Jul 14, 2020 at 10:58 am

Minister McPhee's response is disappointing, to say the least.
It's about the facility itself. Not about supplies and equipment.

What is the priority here? Health and Safety is important, but unless I'm missing something, quality of education is important as well.
Perhaps the primary importance is warehousing students. It sure looks that way.

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Atom on Jul 14, 2020 at 10:29 am

Only in Yukon....employees want to be 'consulted' on workplans!
McPhee likely tried but nwtel dropped the email...

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Jake on Jul 14, 2020 at 8:08 am

"...It's a matter of public safety...." the Minister says this morning........and no more need to be said!
We need to put that on a flag.
Even before COVID this was the argument that Governments used to preclude any discussion on arbitrary decisions. But, post COVID both Territorial and Federal Liberals use it without conscience to advance their agenda. Democracy be damned these days, parliamentary rules (like conflict of interest) no longer apply.
I don't care who is in power.....this is not good.

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Furious! on Jul 13, 2020 at 11:31 pm

Furious! Those of you writing petitions and calling meetings, get it changed! Leave Wood St. programs at Wood St.

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Supportive Parent on Jul 13, 2020 at 6:31 pm

I think these parents who are up in arms about MAD need to get with reality. Everyone is needing to shift their realities in the era of COVID-19. How many students are in MAD? How many grade 8 students are there? My sense is there are probably more grade 8 students and the Department of Ed are trying their best to meet students' needs within the capacity of the infrastructure that they have inherited. If the previous Yukon Party would have built a decent sized FH Collins and the Francophone School Board would be willing to share their brand new Cadillac of schools that is poised to house at most 30 students in September 2020, maybe we wouldn't be in this position.

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Yukon Cornelius on Jul 13, 2020 at 6:31 pm

Yukon Liberals - not fit to govern.

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DCYT on Jul 13, 2020 at 5:21 pm

Seems like McPhee and Frost are trying to outpace each other on horrible ideas.

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Dan Davidson on Jul 13, 2020 at 4:09 pm

Wood Street was originally an elementary school, of course, but in the years that it has been used for MAD and other programs, it has been very much renovated to house such programs and is likely not a good fit for anything else without spending a fair amount of money. My daughter was a MAD student in her grade 11 year in the late 90s and enjoyed the experience. Worse, the programs will probably not be a good fit in another building.

Worse, while I'm not sure about Porter Creek, FHC II was stupidly built without any thought of performance space; no stage at all. Crazy, eh?

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Lost In the Yukon on Jul 13, 2020 at 3:59 pm

Is anyone surprised? This has been the hallmark of “One Term and Done” Slippery Sandy Silver’s rule as Primo Premier. Though I did expect better from the Minister of Education. The folks of Riverdale South are probably regretting not electing Jan Stick.

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