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Teslin Tlingit Council wins a pivotal lawsuit

The Teslin Tlingit Council (TTC) has won its lawsuit against the Government of Canada regarding appropriate levels of funding to support its self-governing authority.

By Chuck Tobin on January 16, 2019

The Teslin Tlingit Council (TTC) has won its lawsuit against the Government of Canada regarding appropriate levels of funding to support its self-governing authority.

Justice Ron Veale released his decision on the case Tuesday, after hearing three days of submissions last month.

Veale ruled that Canada has a legal obligation to negotiate a financial transfer agreement (FTA) based on the number of citizens enrolled under the Tlingit Council, but it has failed to do so.

The declaration requires Canada to “address the demographic issue before the expiry of the FTA on March 31, 2019,” Veale writes in his 24-page decision.

He also found that Canada continues to base its funding to support the self-governing First Nation on the number of status Indians enrolled with no consideration given to the number of non-status Indians.

Teslin’s land claim and self-government agreements, however, do away with distinguishing the difference between status and non-status citizens, Veale noted in his decision.

During the trial last month, Teslin argued that self-government funding from Canada has been inadequate since it signed off on its agreements back in 1995.

Though reviews of self-government funding Canada provides to Yukon First Nations have shown the inadequacies of the FTAs, Canada continues to refuse to negotiate based on overall citizenship, Teslin argued.

It added that Canada continues to insist on providing funding on old, outdated formulas with modest annual increases.

The difference between what Canada provides annually and what the Tlingit Council deems appropriate is tens of millions of dollars apart, the court heard last month.

Veale pointed out in his decision that the land claim and self-government agreements required First Nations to establish a citizenship list, requirements which Canada had to approve as part of the land claims and self-government negotiations.

Canada noted during the three days of hearings that it has been involved since 2015 in a national discussion with the country’s 25 self-governing First Nations, including the 11 Yukon self-governing First Nations, to address appropriate levels of funding.

The court heard how Teslin was involved in the discussions but left the national table. It heard how Teslin felt the time for talk was long over.

Teslin provided the federal government in September 2017 with a comprehensive, itemized list of the level of annual funding it requires to support its government, but has not had a formal response.

“Canada submitted that this declaration is inconsistent with reconciliation and the nation-to-nation relationship,” says Veale’s decision.

“On the contrary, this declaration promotes reconciliation by ensuring that Canada negotiates the demographic features of TTC on a timely basis which successive governments of Canada have failed to do.

“The hopeful wishes of Canada’s Senior Negotiator notwithstanding, Canada is legally obligated to negotiate and a declaration accordingly is appropriate given the years of failing to negotiate the demographic issue.”

Veale also noted a decision by the Nunavut Court of Appeal that says Canada cannot make excuses for funding shortfalls.

“It has never been a defence to breach of contract that: ‘Sorry, we ran out of money,’ or ‘Sorry, we never included that in our budget,’” reads the Nunavut decision cited by Veale.

He noted that the Nunavut superior court ruled where Canada has a commitment to providing funding, it must do so.

Teslin told the court last month it surrendered its aboriginal rights and title to 90 per cent of its traditional territory in exchange in part for self-government authority, appropriately funded by Canada.

Canada, it argued, has never fulfilled the obligation to appropriate levels of funding to support Teslin’s self-government.

Chief Richard Sidney of the Teslin Tlingit Council could not be reached.

Canada’s lawyers for the case were similarly unavailable.

Comments (13)

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Just Sayin' on Jan 22, 2019 at 4:37 pm

Why are people so worried? They have limited number of citizens and millions upon millions of dollars (so far), businesses that other people run, and so many of their people live below the poverty line. The band runs the school and has yet to turn out a professional that went out and changed the world. Honestly, you could give them a billion and their own people would still be starving.

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jake on Jan 21, 2019 at 12:48 pm

The Decision does not mean a windfall as stated by the CYFN Chief, just means a larger group will be represented in the negotiations. Ottawa will sharpen Their pencils and will scrutinize how funds are used. Believe Me, Mr Veales decision may look on the outside as a win, and in some ways it is, but I would not be thinking the balance in the bank will change a whole lot.

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jake on Jan 21, 2019 at 12:43 pm

The court decision does not mean more bucks. Just means a larger representation group, when negotiating funding. Ottawa will sharpen their pencils, and look deep into how those resources are spent. The CYFN

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Northern_Justice on Jan 21, 2019 at 10:02 am

Get use to it... the importance of the north and all its resources are now under jurisdiction of First Nations enjoying the prime benefits of Land Claims and resources ( Aboriginal title ) lock, stock n barrel in most cases to the centre of the earth, ( Cat. A lands) it's all owned! Get ready Yukon First Nations to say goodby to our bows n arrows and say hello opportunities. The North is our oyster Yukon First Nations it's time for us to get out under poverty and colonial aspirations for our people. Like Elijah Smith said " We are not here looking for a hand out" let's take these wins and make the most out of it!!

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Wouldn't we all on Jan 20, 2019 at 10:09 am

@ Bernice.... "I'd like an amount given to me to buy property...."

Yes, wouldn't we all. In white man's land, we don't even consider that to be an option for our government or for our people to even consider. We go out and get a job, a mortgage, and pay, pay, pay.... for ourselves.

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Ali on Jan 19, 2019 at 8:45 am

@mad max
Because communities have different definitions than still being regarded as "Indians" under Canadian government.
@ not surprised yea... we're all human and judges are ultimately suppose to implement the law. We all strive to have your perfect body.

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Pai Ing Foortu on Jan 18, 2019 at 5:23 pm

Canada does not give me a dime. I actually support Canada through taxes and thereby those who expect Canada to support them. GET A JOB! Pay your share so I don’t have to.

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Juniper Jackson on Jan 18, 2019 at 4:58 pm

Eventually, FN, refugee's, illegals, welfare.. all those groups who contribute nothing to the economy are going to put the country in bankruptcy..at the rate business is closing down, business and personal bankruptcies are being declared.. we could be the next Venezuela... this is an interesting read..given that Canada pays 26 BILLION dollars a year in interest right now.. Canada owes 142 billion in just lines of credit.. Canadians owe 294 billion https://betterdwelling.com/canadians-owe-over-294-billion-secured-against-their-home-equity/://www.generationscrewed.ca/how-screwed-are-you/explained--government-debt/

All of the above groups think they are entitled to free money, posters saying, they want free land.. well.. you're gonna break the bank.. Since the federal government has never told the truth about the economy..hard to tell when that will happen.. I always thought we'd end up like Greece..but I'm afraid we'll end up like Venezuela. Trudeau thinks that bringing another 340,000 people into the country where there are no jobs and no housing is going to fix this right up. Yup.

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Bernice provencal on Jan 18, 2019 at 2:58 am

I've been non status since birth. Gained my status when I married. I am first nations. Birth certificates of parents can be requested.
I'm hoping my grandchildren can be given a status number..as I know that they need support and they need to feel part of me..their grandmother. They are one quarter first nations. With all that is happening in our culture and chiefs I'd like an amount given to me to buy property off reserve so my children can inherit. I work and pay taxes. I married a non native. I feel that a reserve feeds a mentality and it feels like an anchor. I'd like to see my children and grandchildren have the tools to go forward and be healthy minded tax payers.

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fake news bandit on Jan 17, 2019 at 5:03 pm

Here we go again with all the uninformed commenters who spew out their ignorant falsehoods that they learned from their daddy who learned it from their daddy who learned it from their daddy who immigrated here and stole everything from those pesky natives!

Rod...us natives are funded at levels way below every other Canadian. So how about you try to live off of what we get compared to yourself?! That's why Canada lost in the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal that declared that Native kids on reserve are underfunded by 38% compared to other Canadian kids.
That also applies to education, infrastructure, social services and so on.
In our agreements Canada agreed to fund us at comparable rates as other Yukoners. But Canada has never done this and has saved money by consistently under funding us less than other Yukoners!

Max Mack...how about give Chapter 3 a read?! It lays out all the strict conditions for who qualifies to be a citizen.
That's what Canada agreed to and that's what they've been failing to do when they would only fund our citizens with Indian status.

My recommendation to all the Sheer/Rebel Media supporters is read the Agreements and educate yourselves please...it's embarrassing!
What's next?! Stealing our children and trying to turn them into Europeans?!
Oh wait...you already did this...that's right!

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Max Mack on Jan 16, 2019 at 11:41 pm

I'm confused. How can Teslin Tlingit Council include "non-status citizens" in its counts?
If I'm interpreting this correctly, the First Nation can pretty much inflate its counts as much as it wants since a "citizen" does not have to have status. The inevitable result will be exactly that, since every "citizen" counted means more transfer dollars. There is absolutely no incentive to be honest.

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Not Suprised on Jan 16, 2019 at 6:46 pm

Has Ron Veale ever made a decision against a FN?

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Rod on Jan 16, 2019 at 5:45 pm

Inadequate funding....it’s never gonna be enough! Maybe spend it a little more wisely so we don’t have to keep shelling it out!

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