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Teachers called anxious over unknown COVID-19 cases

The president of the Yukon Association of Educational Professionals says his members are angry and frustrated over the current COVID-19 rules regime mandated by the Yukon government.

By Tim Giilck on January 28, 2022

The president of the Yukon Association of Educational Professionals says his members are angry and frustrated over the current COVID-19 rules regime mandated by the Yukon government.

Ted Hupé told the Star Wednesday teachers are particularly upset by what they see as double-standards between the community rules and the rules for schools.

He said the schools in the territory individually and collectively represent some of the biggest congregate settings in the territory, yet there are fewer protections in place for staff and students than afforded the public.

“COVID doesn’t stop at the door,” Hupé said. “We’re at the mercy of fate. It seems as if we are at a lower level of importance to the government.”

Even with rules in places for students to be masked all day, among other measures, Hupé said his members are concerned it’s a bit of a free-for-all in between classes when students can mingle in the halls.

He also noted his members are expressing concerns that students are expected to eat lunch in the same classrooms they are taught in the rest of the day.

While they are eating, they aren’t masked, he pointed out, negating the measures taking the rest of the time.

“As kids, they are also all over each other during lunch,” he said. “It’s not eliminating the risk.”

That’s a lower threshold than is expected of the general public, Hupé said.

Compounding that is the new reality that parents don’t have to report any positive COVID-19 tests to the school.

Teachers and staff know that means there are an unknown number of infections every person at school is being exposed to.

“We know there are students who have COVID, or family members, but we’re not hearing about it,” Hupé said.

That’s a bit unnerving for teachers and staff, he added.

“Schools are petri dishes at the best of times,” he said. “COVID-19 makes it worse. We have no idea of how many cases of COVID we are facing everyday.

As it stands, the government isn’t budging much on the idea of closing schools and moving to remote learning.

Hupé said they are highly-resistant to the idea of making it easier, since they are entrenched in the position that schools are safe zones.

The only way a school will make that pivot, he said, is if enough staff aren’t present on a given day to safely operate.

Hupe added the government hasn’t provided clear benchmarks for doing that. Instead, it’s at the call of every individual principal.

The process, he said, is as follows. If a principal decides there are too few staff present at the beginning of the day to function properly, those numbers are compiled and sent to Department of Education officials to review.

If department officials agree, the decision can be made to close the school and switch to remote learning.

“It’s very subjective.”

Hupé said that despite his suggestions, the department isn’t willing to give the principals the power to make the switch themselves.

The process, he added, isn’t as simple as it seems, and is somewhat discriminatory by position.

“Basically, some people are more important than others under this system,” Hupé said.

He made the following comparison. If five educational assistants at a given school were not working on a given day, services would suffer, but their absences could possibly be covered.

If five home-room teachers called in sick, though, that’s a much bigger headache for a principal to manage, Hupe said.

“Who is absent is more important than the actual numbers,” he said.

He said some schools have already approached that threshold of being able to operate safely this month, but none have slipped over that precipice yet.

During Thursday morning’s COVID-19 briefing, the Star asked Dr. Catherine Elliott, the acting chief medical officer of health, how education professionals are supposed to prepare for work without knowing how many cases of COVID-19 they could face on a given day.

“We cannot get the risk down to zero,” Elliott said. “We know children need in-person learning. There’s potential in many, many settings, including schools.”

She then spoke for a couple of minutes on how parents can evaluate the risks of sending their children to school, and again stressed the importance of handwashing and vaccines.

She did not circle back with any advice for teachers and other educational staff with anxities about their workplace environments.

Comments (28)

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Douglas James Martens on Feb 2, 2022 at 3:01 pm

Well, one thing we do know for sure and for certain: if the educators are leading by example, then we can look forward to a whole generation of absolute cowards. These are the people your kids look up to and admire. They will aspire to what they see and not so much to what they hear. And what do they see? Grown adults, fearful of what might possibly happen some day even to the point of being unable to do their jobs...

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Atom on Feb 2, 2022 at 11:30 am

Everybody is sounding and acting childish in this world right now...go with it.

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Dave on Feb 1, 2022 at 12:28 am

WELL over 100 million dollars
Spent building those schools.
Still complaints
Career change?

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Dave on Jan 31, 2022 at 8:23 am

It seems you only hear from YAEP when they are pumping there tires about something irrelevant ( like there name change ) or complaining about something irrational.
Just go on strike already.

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Rick S on Jan 30, 2022 at 4:26 pm

From Swedish study "Open Schools, Covid-19 and Child and Teacher Morbidity in Sweden" (Reminder: no masks, no closures):

"Despite Sweden’s having kept schools and preschools open, researchers have found a low incidence of severe Covid-19 among schoolchildren and children of preschool age during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic…No child with Covid-19 died…Among the 1,951,905 million children who were 1 to 16 years of age, 15 children had Covid-19, MIS-C, or both conditions and were admitted to an ICU, which is equal to 1 child in 130,000.

When it comes to teachers, the study showed that ‘fewer than 10 preschool teachers and 20 schoolteachers in Sweden received intensive care for Covid-19 up until June 30, 2020 (20 per 103,596 schoolteachers, which is equal to 19 per 100,000). As compared with other occupations (excluding health care workers), this corresponded to sex- and age-adjusted relative risks of 1.10 (95 percent confidence interval [CI], 0.49 to 2.49) among preschool teachers and 0.43 (95 percent CI, 0.28 to 0.68) among schoolteachers."

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Mile on Jan 30, 2022 at 10:52 am

Well now I'm confused. Why are the double and triple vacced worried about the protection that the kids might be sick. Oh yeah, that's right, the vaccine doesn't work. They all know it now and want to punish everyone else because they allowed the liberal's to choose for them. Well I've always said sheep should never try and be wolves. So the teachers can suck it up and do their job. Teach.

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Hannah A on Jan 29, 2022 at 10:55 pm

It's time to prioritize children's anxiety over the grown-ups.

Interesting, that no-one demanded the daycares close. Why just schools? Do ECEs not matter? I am so thankful for my amazing Early Childhood Educators who have shown up every day for work throughout the pandemic, no matter the ridiculousness being thrown at them. I can't even imagine what it must be like to teach the alphabet with a mask on to toddlers.

Remote / virtual school is a euphemism for school closures.
It's this kind of rhetoric that is truly "anti vaccination" because it undermines trust in the vaccines. People are going to start to question - what was the point of it all if schools will close, children will be masked forever?

There are some jobs that you need to do in person. Not everyone can work from home. I do feel for teachers that are having to police children's mask wearing rather than actually teaching but that's an easy fix - if the teachers believe in science, is to make mask wearing optional.

Can we please please focus our resources and vaccine efforts on the 65+ crowd if we truly care about not overwhelming the health care system?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/school-closures-covid-alex-gutentag
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/28/1075842341/growing-calls-to-take-masks-off-children-in-school
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/kids-masks-schools-weak-science/621133/

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Joe on Jan 29, 2022 at 8:00 pm

So many people got vaxed because they were coerced and forced to do so. That percentage and those who don't want vaccine represent at least half the population and they oppose mandates… it's not complicated.

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DMZ on Jan 29, 2022 at 6:50 pm

I'd fall over in a dead faint if any teacher or principle here spoke about the adverse effects of extended pandemic restrictions, including masks, on school children. That's where a lot of the discussion is going elsewhere. A member of the advisory panel in Israel said one thing he regretted about the measures they took is that in-person attendance at schools should never have been closed.

I don't know when Canada is going to start talking about off-ramps. It seems hopeless. And this kind of "professional" feedback is downright enervating.

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Jeff Bikaboom, MORONIC comments on Jan 29, 2022 at 4:15 pm

Ever worked with children 'Jeff?' Ever done any good for the community? Easy to dump on teachers. Don't you think parents and children are worried? If you saw my attendance, parents are keeping children home. It affects us all. Don't you dare dump on teachers. We do more in the schools than you do ever in your work place. We are essential workers and yet we get dumped, dumped, dumped on. Thank goodness I don't do my job to impress the likes of you but rather to make a difference in the lives of young people.

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martin on Jan 29, 2022 at 11:40 am

Unfortunatelly, we have news from all mayor networks from US, but in all that madness, I saw many segments where the School's Principal, Superintendents and even Governors of certain States are voluntiering to cover for in-classes shortages. Would the Ed Minister have the guts to order her at-home employees to do something like that?

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martin on Jan 29, 2022 at 11:36 am

@Jeff Bikaboom ; then teachers should wait-on "customers" to have the complete set up, right? genious! How could that have NOT come out of Dept of Ed.
Forgot that they working from home and nobody is in charge.

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Anonymous on Jan 29, 2022 at 10:45 am

"Not sure why some of you zeroed in on the lunch part?"

Because it shows how ridiculous the mask mandates are. Taking them off to eat negates having worn them in the first place. It's all a virtue signal charade and isn't supported by medical science. Do you know how small viruses are? They are measured in picometers. A piece of cloth over your face will not protect you. The rest of your comment is just regurgitated, discredited media talking points, so those can be dismissed without any further discussion.

"The vaccines have never been promised as 100% stopping someone from catching COVID19, or any variant that is coming, or out there now."
https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1475193955704881152?

Why do people keep spreading this lie?

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Northerner on Jan 29, 2022 at 10:31 am

Why don’t you just do your job—at least you have one. Constant complaining. If it’s not one thing it’s another.

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Sarah Davison on Jan 29, 2022 at 8:50 am

This is pure hysteria. The facts are that Omicron has overtaken Delta as the dominant strain, and that the chances that you will die from Covid if you're a working age adult in reasonable health are substantially less than one percent. Furthermore, even the CDC has finally acknowledged that face masks do nothing, zero, nada to stop you contracting the virus. The facts are that this virus represents no risk, either to students or to teachers. You are three times more likely to get struck by lightning that you are to die from Covid. And you are many, many, many - exponentially many - more times as likely to die from a fentanyl overdose if you do class A drugs.
So what the teachers should really be focused on in eliminating recreational drug use among their ranks. Fentanyl is the real public health crisis in this community, so perhaps the teachers should focus their attention more appropriately on eliminating any and all drug use from school sites, and reporting aggressively on children who indicate that their parents are using. Drug use IS now a REAL death sentence. Ignore Covid. Do not do drugs. EVER.

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Northerner on Jan 29, 2022 at 7:04 am

The inconsistencies in our Covid approach are breathtaking. What is the rationale for not disclosing positive cases in schools? We are supposed to believe schools by some miracle are safe? That's nonsense.

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Dave on Jan 29, 2022 at 6:43 am

Curious how the word professionals got into their title. It should be swapped for amateurs.
You make good money to teach, do your job and quit complaining.
I go to work everyday and my kid goes to school. Maybe a career change will help ease your anxiety.

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DL on Jan 29, 2022 at 12:21 am

The poor kids, forced to wear masks all day. That's child abuse. For one thing, these clothes masks don't prevent viral spread. They also have a strong adverse effect on children's physical and mental health. This should stop, now.

I've heard from many teachers in the past that every winter flu season there's quite a few teachers and students at home, sick. That's normal. What's abnormal is the irrational fearmongering about this covid virus, although the symptoms are so mild that you have to be tested to know you have it. Teachers, you're 'vaccinated' right? Aren't you supposedly 'protected' from severe symptoms?

We all know by now that the experimental covid jabs don't stop transmission. And we'll ALL catch the highly transmissible but mild omicron virus. Be glad that you will acquire stronger and longer immunity from natural infection.

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Max Mack on Jan 28, 2022 at 9:11 pm

Hupe and the rest of the neurotics can quit their jobs if they are so anxious about covid, right?
Isn't that the messaging of vaxx mandates? Choosing to not vaxx has consequences? So, continuing to work while vaxxed should also carry consequences. Right? Or, is this silliness only one-way?

Despite all the teachers being at least double-vaxxed, some demand even more restrictions for students - despite students being at zero risk of serious consequence from covid even without the vaxx. Also despite the obvious foolishness of mask-wearing.

Two years of medical tyranny. Time for it to stop.

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Snowman on Jan 28, 2022 at 7:41 pm

I don't envy the government right now. On one side you have people protesting and demanding that the government lift all restrictions immediately. On the other side, you have cry babies like this demanding more resources and restrictions. Come on Ted, omicron is less severe and the whole thing will be done in a few weeks or a month. The teachers and kids will survive in the mean time I promise.

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Peter on Jan 28, 2022 at 4:57 pm

Not sure why some of you zeroed in on the lunch part? He did not say or even suggest that they don't eat, or "fed intravenous instead" it was used as an example of where the masks are taken off. Also "The omicron variant is not much more than the common cold and the present vaccines don't work on it." That statement is not true and, so misinformed it should be removed from the comments. The vaccines have never been promised as 100% stopping someone from catching COVID19, or any variant that is coming, or out there now. The vaccines as the current data suggests when you have two too three shots will more then likely keep you out of hospital, and ICU which lowers the burden on our health care system. Having two too three shots also seems to show that your symptoms will be "not much more than the common cold", but those are symptoms and not the actual damage the virus can cause, or allow from other under lying conditions the person(s) may have.
Teachers, and the students have just as much rights to health and safety as the rest of us.

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Jeff Bikaboom on Jan 28, 2022 at 4:25 pm

Replace all the desks with restaurant tables. Then the kids only need masks when they enter the room or go to the washroom.

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Jeff Bikaboom on Jan 28, 2022 at 4:13 pm

"it’s a bit of a free-for-all in between classes when students can mingle in the halls." How dare they. We better turns schools into something more resembling of a prison. Never mind the trauma, as long as the triple vaxxed teachers feel safe.

If someone is too scared to work let them go home and hide. Replace them with one of the teachers you fired. The vaccine works so well that the people that don't take it need to be fired, yet the people that did take it are scared to go to work. The mental gymnastics needed to explain this are impressive.

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bonanzajoe on Jan 28, 2022 at 3:36 pm

Leaders step up. Resist Tyranny.

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Richard Smith on Jan 28, 2022 at 2:56 pm

I can't believe what I just read.
You want the children then to be fed intravenous instead of taking off their masks for lunch then?
These children shouldn't be wearing masks at all!
The omicron variant is not much more than the common cold and the present vaccines don't work on it.
Aren't you and the teachers fully vaccinated - so what is your problem?

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We're teachers, school staff, and we don't matter on Jan 28, 2022 at 2:36 pm

We teachers, EA's and other school staff do not matter. Multiple students missing from my classes, COVID all around and meanwhile Dept of Ed staff work from home. I wouldn't know about the COVID if parents didn't want homework. To be clear, I want to be at work in person with children as I see it as essential to parents being able to work. To be clear, DOE needs a policy that any child or teacher with COVID is disclosed and the school is not a COVID free for all. How come all other agencies like in YTG can work from home or have a basket outside of their office so they don't have to deal with the public? Why? Because I'm a lowly teacher, or lowly EA, or lowly custodial or admin staff, and students are just students and YTG doesn't care about our physical or mental well being. SHAME!!!!!

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LOL on Jan 28, 2022 at 2:30 pm

Of course the covid neurotics in the schools would be upset the kids are eating their lunch without their masks on.

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Matthew on Jan 28, 2022 at 2:24 pm

Yes, we know, nothing makes sense at all! No matter how you try and spin it..

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