Suspects drove to Whitehorse after killing pair
Two suspects confessed to the murders of three people in northern British Columbia in several videos taken before they shot themselves in a suicide pact, the RCMP said Friday.
By CP on September 30, 2019
SURREY, B.C. – Two suspects confessed to the murders of three people in northern British Columbia in several videos taken before they shot themselves in a suicide pact, the RCMP said Friday.
A report released that day also reveals the killers did venture as far north as Whitehorse.
The Mounties said Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, and Kam McLeod, 19, expressed no remorse in the videos. They did not explain their motives behind the killings that sparked a nationwide manhunt this past summer.
“If there was in fact a motive, it’s gone with the accused,” RCMP Assistant Commissioner Kevin Hackett told a news conference, adding the videos were “cold” and “matter of fact.”
“Their attitude, frankly, from my observations was not consistent with someone who was responsible for the type of violent offences that they took responsibility for.”
Before their deaths, the men were charged with the murder of Leonard Dyck, a University of British Columbia botany lecturer. They were also suspects in the deaths of American Chynna Deese and her Australian boyfriend, Lucas Fowler.
The RCMP released new details of its investigation, including descriptions of the videos. They said police located a digital camera belonging to Dyck near where the bodies of the two suspects were found in northern Manitoba.
Police said McLeod shot Schmegelsky before shooting himself. Two guns found near their bodies were the same firearms used in the murders of Deese, Fowler and Dyck.
The RCMP said it believes the videos may inspire copycat killers, and that releasing them would be disrespectful to the victims and their families, so they aren’t being made public at this time.
The camera contained three still images and six videos. In the first 58-second video, the RCMP describe Schmegelsky as saying their plan is to march to Hudson Bay, hijack a boat and travel to Europe or Africa.
In the next, which is 51 seconds, he says they have reached a river that is large and fast-moving and they may have to commit suicide, to which McLeod agrees.
The next 32-second video shows Schmegelsky saying they have shaved in preparation for their own deaths and they now plan to kill more people and expect to be dead in a week, the RCMP said.
The fourth video is 19 seconds long. They say they will shoot themselves, while the next is just six seconds and appears to have been taken accidentally.
The final 31-second video is what the two men describe as their “last will and testament,” and they express their wish to be cremated, the RCMP said.
Hackett said none of the videos are date-stamped.
One of the still images shows Schmegelsky lying on his side posing with a SKS rifle, another is a blurred photo with a finger across the lens and the third shows McLeod from the chest up.
The Mounties released a seven-page, double-sided overview of their investigation to media on Friday. The document provides a timeline and new details of the homicides but does not draw any conclusions about motive.
“Interviews of McLeod and Schmegelsky’s families, teachers and friends, seized evidence from search warrants and the six video recordings did not reveal their motivation for the murders,” the overview says.
The investigation began July 15, when the bodies of Fowler and Deese were discovered near Highway 97, south of Liard River Hot Springs. The bodies were found near a van registered to Fowler.
A search of the vehicle over the next two days turned up identification belonging to the pair and spent and unspent bullet casings.
An autopsy on July 19 confirmed that Fowler and Deese had died of multiple gunshot wounds. It appears that the shooter or shooters stood behind the victims for at least some of the shots.
Also, on July 19, a burned truck registered to McLeod was found about 60 kilometres south of Dease Lake. Dyck’s body was found about two kilometres away but was unidentified at that time and police released a composite sketch.
Dyck suffered injuries to his head and body, including bruises and burn marks. It was only when his body was moved the next day that a single bullet wound was found, police said.
The families of McLeod and Schmegelsky said they were good kids who had left on a trip to northern B.C. and the Yukon to look for work. The pair had limited police interaction and no criminal records, so the RCMP treated them as missing persons.
A search warrant of McLeod’s truck found spent rounds matching those at the first crime scene.
On July 22, the RCMP received information that a witness had come forward. That person stated they knew McLeod and Schmegelsky and believed the boys may have been involved in the murders.
Later that day, Helen Dyck called the police and reported that she believed the composite sketch showed her husband.
The RCMP publicly identified Schmegelsky and McLeod as suspects in the three murders the next day.
The two young men legally purchased a SKS semi-automatic rifle and a box of ammunition using McLeod’s gun licence at a store in Nanaimo on July 12, the same day they left their hometown of Port Alberni, the Mounties said.
After killing Fowler and Deese, the pair headed north to Whitehorse – where their images were captured on a service station’s video camera – but ran into vehicle trouble that forced them to return to B.C. before they killed Dyck, police added.
Though it had been known in July that the pair had been Yukon-bound, it only became publicly known Friday that they had entered the territory and had gone as far as Whitehorse.
The manhunt then led to Gillam, Man., where Dyck’s Toyota Rav 4 was found burned. Officers converged on the area to begin what would be a two-week search.
On Aug. 1, McLeod’s backpack was found containing a full box of ammunition, his wallet and clothing. On Aug. 7, the suspects’ bodies were found with two firearms, one of which was the same gun purchased at the Nanaimo store.
Based on the evidence, police said no other suspects are responsible for the three homicides and there are no other victims in the case.
Police have faced questions about their decisions on which information to release and when.
They initially described Fowler and Deese’s deaths as “suspicious,” and did not call them a double homicide until four days later, the same day Dyck’s body was found.
However, Hackett responded that crime scenes in remote areas are difficult to examine.
Sometimes it will take days until police can determine what has happened and that’s just a “normal way of doing police work,” he said.
In a statement provided through the RCMP, the Deese family said “Chynna was a ray of sunshine, and for her to be taken has made the world feel a bit darker.”
“The impact of such horrendous crimes was felt rippling throughout many communities and we would like to express sincere gratitude to the general public for their empathy and aid during the investigation and manhunt.”
It also thanks the police for “their tireless efforts as a piece of justice has been served in knowing the conclusion of this case.”
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By Laura Kane
The Canadian Press
Comments (13)
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Josey Wales on Oct 5, 2019 at 8:50 am
Hey Watson laker....good damn points.
Allow me to admit, perhaps we got wound up in the “centre of the universe syndrome “ ?
After reading your participation a few times, figured I would step up and admit to the validity of your points.
Also too (and I am purely speculating) given all the criminal activity many see in Whitehorse that gets seemingly ignored, this violent time?
Got us town folk really pissed, me at least speaking for myself.
Thanks for your participation here, your salient points AND most importantly...the needed reminder that Whitehorse is not the centre of the universe. Yes folks, even I succumbed to that. Glad I was able to feel a sense of shame though. Hence my participation today with you, Watson laker.
Please, on this and any other topic of your individual personal interest...
Carry on.
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Watson Lake resident on Oct 3, 2019 at 4:33 pm
Funny how everyone is quite concerned that these two POS were in Whitehorse, well guess what they had to be in Watson Lake first and I'm talking right after the first two murders possibly within a few hours. I bet they are on camera gassing up at Tags... just sayin Whitehorse isn't the only community with citizens that should have been warned or updated, those two POS then came back to the Watson Lake area a second time to go down hwy 37 and commit the third murder.
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Michael Miller on Oct 3, 2019 at 12:10 am
I wonder if it occurred to them that they missed out and cut their lives short and killed innocent people.
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Sharpie on Oct 2, 2019 at 3:54 pm
The Australian news had much more coverage than we had here in Canada. I was seeing stuff come from down under that would only surface in Canada's MSM days later.
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Josey Wales on Oct 2, 2019 at 3:49 pm
So one has to become a LEO to be critical of their actions or inaction?
That is not only a deflection, but stupid.
Question (fictional scenario not desired)...if that were two slain Mounties, shot multiple times with no gun on scene, no recent discharge of their S&W do you think for a millisecond they would be so lethargic in any details?
Do you think that highway would remain open, and road blocks NOT established still?
Absolute nonsense, I suggest to hold that naive view.
I almost assure it would have been handled very, very different, like getting information to us...the citizens.
Do I need to cite examples? Does what I say seem like fiction to you folks?
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Ev on Oct 2, 2019 at 12:31 pm
I'm sure the BC RCMP sent the alert to Yukon RCMP. All the main media CBC/Global/CTV had it on their news channels. Why vilify the RCMP? They had absolutely no indication who the killers were of Fowler & Deese on July 15, let alone who the two murder victims were. They were only able to get verification on July 22, by then the guys were in Manitoba. Even when it became known who the suspects were - the guy who took off from his rest stop didn't report to police till 3 or 4 days later.
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If you don't like it, make the change. on Oct 2, 2019 at 12:22 pm
Anyone complaining about the RCMP should apply and get a job with them. Be the change! Don't like it, make a change!
I also believe there are rules around releasing info to the public when there is an ongoing investigation. We see how often cases get thrown out over minor details... would you want to see this case get dropped due to a technicality if it ever did make it to court?!
By the time they knew these 2 were suspects, they were long gone. They were considered missing until they were long gone from the Yukon.
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Curiousity on Oct 2, 2019 at 10:00 am
I did see in one media account that they came to Whitehorse and I think in another that one of their grandmothers said he'd told her they went to Whitehorse. Then it wasn't mentioned again. Maybe the RCMP put a lid on it.
I find it strange that the RCMP took so long to publicly announce the first incident was murder, or at least homicide. Then they needed a search warrant to search the van of the victims (I didn't know that was necessary). Then the delay in making a link between the murders. There was always the question of where they were for the days between the couple and the man. It does feel like people would have been more alert if more information had been shared.
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Josey Wales on Sep 30, 2019 at 10:58 pm
Yes...yes they were, that CCTV footage?
Yours truly was looking right at that truck fuelling up in PC.
Damn shame RCMP was not more interested in sharing what they knew, or even guessed at... the murder of Dyck very well might not have happened.
Hyper vigilance is my thing, but one needs information to assist.
Folks...sigh...we are on our own out here.
Not certain how much more evidence one needs to give validation to my chronic wail?
Three more dead people, added to the pile...not convincing enough?
“Kit up and act accordingly”
Not necessarily M, but the RCMP completely pucked this up.
The list of failures is a very long one, and will grow as we get more conditioned to violence and introverted in our communities.
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Would have been nice to know--what's the RCMP doing??? on Sep 30, 2019 at 8:13 pm
Really, we are the last to know! How can that be? We live here and it only comes out now that you had two young murderers come up here right after killing that poor couple? And apparently they were going to kill somebody in one of the rest stops napping? What the hell is the RCMP doing? Why are they not sharing key information with folks so we can be on alert and protect ourselves? Just give us this info 3 months later!!??? Unacceptable!!
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Dentist on Sep 30, 2019 at 7:44 pm
So it was a murder suicide, not a double suicide.
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jc on Sep 30, 2019 at 5:56 pm
Yeah, lovely boys. Very nice.
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Nikki on Sep 30, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Kind of disturbing that police put their investigation ahead of public safety in this whole gong show.