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TAKING A STAND – Kendra Willems has asked CKRW ‘The Rush' to stop playing Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines, arguing that it promotes violence against women and rape culture.
Photo by Vince Fedoroff
TAKING A STAND – Kendra Willems has asked CKRW ‘The Rush' to stop playing Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines, arguing that it promotes violence against women and rape culture.
Ed. note: some readers may be offended by some of the song lyrics quoted in this story.
Ed. note: some readers may be offended by some of the song lyrics quoted in this story.
A 23-year-old Whitehorse woman has asked CKRW "The Rush” radio station to stop playing Robin Thicke's song Blurred Lines.
"I want Blurred Lines removed because I think it promotes rape culture,” Kendra Willems explained Wednesday afternoon during an interview at Baked Café.
That's why, on Tuesday, she posted a lengthy request on CKRW's Facebook page asking the station to stop playing the song.
"Robin sings about ‘liberating' a good girl by showing her that she actually wants ‘to get nasty' and have sex that she isn't asking for,” Willems' writes.
"Robin Thicke keeps repeating, ‘I know you want it' while his musical partner T.I. casually mentions, ‘I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two,'” Willems' writes.
Since Tuesday, her post has garnered a fair level of local attention. This morning, it had 81 "likes” and 134 comments.
"Rape culture is a concept which links rape and sexualized violence to the culture of a society,” Willems told the Star.
"It's a culture where "prevalent attitudes and practices normalize, excuse, tolerate, or condone rape.”
While to most people who already understand that rape is wrong, Willems said, Blurred Lines is probably harmless, although still offensive.
"But in the eyes of a rapist, this is confirmation of what they already suspect, that everybody rapes, and it's normal, and we even have songs about it.”
Scott Carlson, the head of White Ribbon Yukon, agrees with Willems' assessment.
White Ribbon is a campaign led by men to oppose violence against women.
"The key thing to understand here is that the vast majority of men don't commit sexual assault but lots of those that do think it's totally normal behaviour,” he said.
"These aren't just guys jumping out of bushes or anything like that; these are guys from all social classes and backgrounds, and they're usually committing assault against someone they know. In the Yukon about 92 per cent of sexual assaults are committed by someone the victim knows,” Carlson added.
"What Kendra's really pushing for is pushing back against messages that normalize and validate ideas that support a culture of not getting consent, basically.”
Carlson commended Willems for taking the "courageous” stance she has.
"She opened up a really important conversation about how our culture seems to think about getting consent,” he said.
Carlson said there has been some debate about whether the song is actually meant to be about sexual assault. Both he and Willems argue that it most definitely comes across that way.
"It repeats again and again ‘I know you want it,' and features a video of mostly nude women and fully dressed men.
"So it's clearly about putting men in positions of power and dominance,” Carlson notes, adding that it's imperative that those messages are challenged.
"One of my core messages from the work that I do is as guys we need to really be speaking up on what the majority of us really do believe and that's that there are no blurred lines of consent, there's just yes or no.
"We need to make it clear that we respect women so that those who do not will learn that their actions don't have our support.”
There's also been some controversy over the idea of asking a radio station to take certain songs off the air.
As far as Carlson is concerned, however, consumers have every right to "gather support and petition a radio station to stop playing a song we don't want to hear them play.
"That's not censorship, that's just capitalism,” he said.
Diane Petrin, the women's advocate with the Victoria Faulkner Women's Centre, fully supports Willems' request. In her personal life, she has boycotted the radio station for similar reasons.
As far as she's concerned, the issue is pretty simple.
"They shouldn't promote that type of music because it promotes violence against women.”
At the very least, she hopes the station will enter the debate, because it's a discussion worth having.
The Star made several attempts to obtain comment from CKRW, to no avail.
The general manager is currently on holidays, and the music director is on an extended leave, the paper was told.
Blurred Lines "is a really big hit,” Willems noted. It's being played multiple times a day, and will make an impact even if it's no longer aired.
That's part of the reason why she's taking issue with it publicly, understanding that there are plenty of other songs about sexual violence out there too.
"I don't think this is something that's going to be fixed overnight or by taking one song off the air, obviously, but I do think it starts there.
"It starts when we as a community take steps to recognize that things like this encourage rape culture and saying that we as a community are not OK with it and do not want to be a part of it,” she said.
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Comments (68)
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Virgil on Sep 21, 2013 at 5:09 am
Research Delores Tucker
Ram Allah - Kill A Celebrity (Go kill celebrities)
Eminem - Just Like Me (Go jump off a bridge)
Marilyn Manson - (Basically Every song)
Missy Elliot - Lick shots
In this moment - Whore
2Pac- Changes (Still the strongest message that has not been ever adequately embodied by society)
You're left with music whose lyrics should be "Don't worry be happy."
Studied/reported/researched on music and it's influence. People choose their influence. A listener makes the choice to laugh at things/cry for things/ and to have certain feelings towards signifies based on experience (You can look at desensitization).
The argument you've made or forwarded was addressed awhile ago.
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Yawn on Sep 21, 2013 at 2:31 am
OMG, I just heard this song played on several other radio stations while down south. If it is such a concern why hasn't the CRTC been contacted or getting involved instead of putting the onus for action on one little local radio station?
Totally agree with you Joel, 8.5 minutes and counting. Lets move on to news stories that actually matter to the world.
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KB on Sep 20, 2013 at 8:04 am
Just so we're clear.. requesting a song to be taken off the air IS in fact requesting censorship.
And Kendra, I think you're giving the song way too much credit by considering it to be a unified and crafted message.
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MIDNIGHTSUN007 on Sep 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Kendra, I just saw your Facebook page.
What's this whole thing about? Your words do not reflect what you portray in your pic's. I am just going to say WOW, blow's the doors off of the " Blurred Lines" video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trying to become a star?
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Arn Anderson on Sep 19, 2013 at 8:31 am
Unbelievable, but not surprising. 63 comments, wowzers, go-go gadget add-a-comment keyboard.
Anything said about "free speech", one should defenestrate that false concept from mind because our free speech is ubiquitous with rules and guidelines, so it's clearly not free speech.
The foundation is built on sand, like many of humanity's perceptions and concepts. I would rather like to tackle the foundation than the excrement piled on top of it such as this matter.
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Joel on Sep 19, 2013 at 4:08 am
I think we about 8.5 minutes into Kendra's 10 minutes of fame.
Thank goodness for that at least.....
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MIDNIGHTSUN007 on Sep 18, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Kendra, I totally agree with Person Of The North. I personally found Flo Rida's " Whistle" pushing the boundary's
& personally found it not very catchy. So when it played on the air, I simply turned it off or tuned it out (in my mind). After all, Kendra this is Canada Proud & Free, and above all The Yukon, where Zealot's are free to express their opinion.
Thank You Very Much for Your's , But Please Note That I Have My Own.
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MIDNIGHTSUN007 on Sep 17, 2013 at 11:39 am
Kendra, because of your pointing attention to this tune I have now found the unrated version of the music video.
I find it even more entertaining! But still no rape inference ( do you know what the word inference refers to?) I am sure you are driving the songs ratings up!
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Edmonton Speaking on Sep 17, 2013 at 11:32 am
This whole article is comical. I used to live in Whitehorse...40 years actually... KRock K97 is gonna love this...waste of time that is..... really CKRW...get your newscasters to pronounce Nahanni properly first. You really have to grow up CKRW....and get with the times. Music is art....art is subjective ...who made you the critic on behalf of the majority of your listeners?
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Person Of The North on Sep 17, 2013 at 8:33 am
If we are to remove this song from the radio then that would mean that several other songs should be taken down as well. A good example of this is "Flo Rida's- Whistle". Almost every popular song in this day and age contains a sexual reference, so where do we draw the line? Where do we draw the "blurred lines"?
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Culture Vulture on Sep 17, 2013 at 4:31 am
Kendra: You stated quite a few times that this is just your opinion. Obivously - the station - and many many others disagree with your opinion.
This is about lyrical interpretation - nothing more. You believe the lyrics are about blurring lines of consent. I don't.
Does this make you right over my opinions - not at all. I don't understand why you think your OPINION on YOUR interpretation of the lyrics is right - while the rest of us are wrong.
And if you plan on responding - I'd like to use an adage my mother used on me as a child: "Use Your Words".
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MIDNIGHTSUN007 on Sep 16, 2013 at 10:21 am
I just listened & read the lyrics to this song on You tube, I realized that I have heard this song many times & always cranked the volume. I like it & find no reference to rape.
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Jackie Ward on Sep 16, 2013 at 9:12 am
Let me try this again seeing my comment wasn't published.
As Scott Carlson said "That's not censorship, that's just capitalism”
Hahah. Do you even know what you are talking about?
Noun: Capitalism
An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.
Before you speak I suggest actually knowing the terms you throw around. Because you and Scott obviously are very very confused.
Kendra. What you were trying to do is the definition of censorship.
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Kendra on Sep 16, 2013 at 7:08 am
Jonathan Wilkes, I didn't realize you needed credentials these days to have an opinion...
However, I do believe Scott Carlson, the head of White Ribbon Yukon and Diane Petrin, the women's advocate with the Victoria Faulkner Women's Center; who are both cited in this article in full support of what I am saying, have some credentials.
I am not looking to dictate anything to anyone, I was bringing forth my opinion and asking a private radio station if they agreed with me - and if they did agree with me, to choose not to play this song any longer.
Hardly censoring or banning anything, I'd say.
As Scott Carlson said "That's not censorship, that's just capitalism”
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Groucho d'North on Sep 16, 2013 at 5:42 am
Lyrical censorship pops up like acne. And after the media flash-in-the-pan it goes away forgotten...until a new song stirs the sensitive audience members.
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L.P. on Sep 16, 2013 at 4:58 am
Music is subjective, just because Kendra views this song as promoting rape culture, doesn't mean other people are going to agree and certainly doesn't mean Kendra is right.
Kendra - instead of bringing up people's reading comprehension skills and repeating yourself over and over, learn that not everyone is going to agree with your opinion. Just because you believe what you are fighting for is right, doesn't mean it is. And those who disagree with you are not supporting rape culture, no one in their right mind would support that.
Preventing rape is worth fighting for, but lashing out over a song is just plain nutty. Can we all just agree to disagree and move on with our lives?
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Kendra on Sep 16, 2013 at 12:46 am
There is a difference in a song being about rape, and a song promoting rape culture. A song does not have to be about, or even mention rape, to affirm idea's that keep rape culture alive.
Rape culture is: a concept which links rape and sexual violence to the culture of a society, and in which prevalent attitudes and practices normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone rape.
Wearing a short skirt does not "normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone rape”.
More than anything, this is about changing an attitude.
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Easily Suggestible on Sep 15, 2013 at 12:05 pm
After listening to "Eat It" by Weird Al this weekend, I went on an eating binge gaining 10 pounds! Scary.
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Jonathan Wilkes on Sep 15, 2013 at 8:50 am
Exactly what credentials does Kendra have that makes her an expert on the topic?
Hope it takes a bit more than self righteousness to dictate what we listen to.
You know what they say about opinions.
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Break The Record! on Sep 15, 2013 at 6:22 am
This subject has generated 47 comments so far. Three more and it will break the all time record for comments sent to the Whitehorse Star. Who would have thought someone commenting about their views of a song would provoke so much discussion.
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Any Yukon Woman on Sep 15, 2013 at 6:10 am
@ DMZ That is very well said!
It may suggest questionable lyrics but, I still would like to hear them. I have 100% faith that I am safe in my own country. I also have 100% faith that I could kick the living snot out of any rapist and/or that there would be justice for me if not. Our country does not condone rape and the existence of this song does not affect the way our laws will prosecute a rapist. And rapers always be raping.
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Paul Getson on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:22 am
Kendra. I was asked to pass this along to you. Hope you get to see it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/14/blurred-lines-banned_n_3927594.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009&utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
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think about it omg on Sep 14, 2013 at 7:07 am
First- everyone has a right to their opinion - period -
Second- images, music, games, movies, are subjective. One persons expression may be to another pleasure or disgust
Third- if we are sending out a public message, either in our taste in own appearance, our taste in music, our taste in art, etc, -it is sending a message, and that message may be perceived as good or bad depending on the views of the receiver
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Kathy on Sep 14, 2013 at 5:10 am
Though you Kendra have spent a lot of time looking into studies and concluding an opinion from what you believe to be solid fact, that has very little to do with your education and how it compares to others. Repeating yourself over and over also does not mean others are not understanding you it means they disagree with your opinion based on the information you have thus far provided, so offering different angles or additional information would make far more sense then sounding like a broken record. And I had to point out an issue with what it is you are saying. If short skirts and how a female dresses is not asking for it (agreed), however it may still cause a handful of disturbed thinkers to decide she is - Does this cause you to encourage females everywhere to not dress this way? NO. Because it is not asking for it.
Based on what you are saying you conclude many times that a rapist is going to determine these ideas from his surroundings his sights & sounds. So if he is going to think anything is affirmation there is no logical difference between a song and an outfit he's going to find affirmation regardless - Does that mean the song itself is the sole contributing factor? No. With or without the song, clothes, alcohol, they will find the affirmation they are seeking. Do we stop listening to, watching, doing what we want in our lives in hopes we can prevent someone acting out the bad in them? I sure hope not.
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Mike Hawk on Sep 14, 2013 at 3:22 am
If a fluffy summer pop song encourages someone to rape, they have bigger problems going on.
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Oh wow on Sep 13, 2013 at 5:55 pm
I think that most of the comments defending Kendra are from Kendra herself. If you have concern for rape victims, maybe help out at the women's shelter, than stress something as pointless as this.
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Pam Arnold on Sep 13, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Well she should maybe not listen to music period; there is a lot of music on the radio that probably shouldn't be played....but society doesn't run one way. Everyone accepts who you are and respects your choices. Not everyone is the same. T.V. is no different. Do you ever see the commercials they promote on prime time? You don't like it then don't listen and turn it off! Hey hey hey whoooo!
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Sara like on Sep 13, 2013 at 3:15 pm
And one more thing I forgot to mention. For you to say that others opinions are maybe wrong or that maybe we need to be educated or have a better vocabulary, is very ignorant on your part Kendra, and just shows your maturity. Like I said in my previous comment, it offends you, but that's just your opinion. Once again, good luck.
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Sara like on Sep 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm
I believe rape is a horrible thing as well. I don't believe however, that this is what the song is referring to. I think you have the right to think want you want, as do we. Your opinion is bold, but for me I think you are over doing this a little. A person who rapes or maybe hasn't raped yet, isn't going to hear this song and decide to do it. This is something that is deeper for this person, childhood problems or abuse in their family. I think your opinion is well intended, but a little over the top. Good luck.
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Gimme a break on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:28 am
The song, which I find to be quite lame does no more to promote rape culture than a movie like Pulp Fiction promotes ill fated heists.
This young woman should channel her energy elsewhere. Seriously.
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Anonymously anonymous on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:06 am
I don't really care either way if the song continues to play. I understand your concern and you have every right to voice it. Unfortunately now you have to deal with the backlash from the public.
What concerns me about your argument is your statement insinuating that if CKRW doesn't remove the song, they must not be against rape. That's a ridiculous assumption and a pretty low blow. I'm not for or against the song and I am CERTAINLY not in support of rape.
As far as the comments aimed at you regarding your personal appearance and online photos, I again have mixed feelings. I don't like to go online and see half naked pictures if I'm not specifically looking for them. You don't find it offensive, but I do. I'm not saying in any way that you are asking to be raped, I'm saying there's a time and a place for everything and a public forum filled with people of all ages is not the place for borderline pornographic images. Blurred Lines offends you, nearly nude pictures being crammed down my throat offends me.
It's not fair, but it's a reality of the world we live in. People will make assumptions of you based on the way you look, act, and carry yourself.
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Not just one person... on Sep 13, 2013 at 9:24 am
Doesn't seem like it is just one persons opinion, does it? There are 475 "likes" on this story, and 100 "likes" on the removal request on CKRW's Facebook Page.
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Colin on Sep 13, 2013 at 9:02 am
Lets call it what it is. A spade is a spade. If you're asking them not to play it, or telling them not to play it, what difference does it make? I may not personally agree with the lyrics myself...and it may be a little uncomfortable hearing a 13 year old boy sing the song...but what's awesome about our Country is our freedom of speech. I guess we tend to forget how much freedom we're blessed with. You should try visiting North Korea and saying what you want. I say keep the song on.
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Grizzly Adams on Sep 13, 2013 at 8:40 am
While we are at it, maybe we should start censoring Facebook pictures. I know of a good account to start with...
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How have you all missed the point so entirely? on Sep 13, 2013 at 8:26 am
I am astonished that you all have missed the point so entirely. Do you have zero reading comprehension or did you just not bother to read it all in the first place?
This request is NOT censorship:
"There have been a lot of comments made regarding my request about CKRW's "right” to play this song, and we shouldn't censor or ban the media in that way. I am not looking to have this song "banned” or made illegal, I support free speech and CKRW's right to play whatever it is they choose. That is why I am asking them to make a responsible CHOICE. I am not looking to force them take it off, I am asking them to consciously choose to no longer play this song. Being a prominent radio station in the Yukon, what they say and the songs they play reach a lot of people – and they have an impact. If CKRW is opposed to rape (which I believe they are), then they have a responsibility to not actively promote rape culture."
In response to all those that say there are many worse things than this song out there promoting rape culture:
"Absolutely. There are too many to list; rape culture is affirmed everyday through countless little things. That is why it is important to start calling out those little things, start paying attention to what messages the media is jamming down our throats, messages we may not even be aware we are absorbing. The subconscious is a very powerful and very active thing. Most people out there are not going to closely examine the lyrics to try and decide what message Robin Thicke is actually trying to get across, the message a lot (I realize not all, but a lot) of people hear is one that promotes rape culture.
I keep receiving comments about my request to have this song taken off the air waves that goes along the lines of "this kind of thing is everywhere, there is nothing we can do about it.”. Well, I don't think that is an acceptable answer. I don't think this is something that is going to be fixed overnight, by taking one song of the air, obviously. But it starts there. It starts when we as a community take steps to recognize that things like this encourage rape cultural; and saying that we as a community are not ok with it and do not want to be a part of it.
I am talking about making the conscious choice NOT to play a song, and more than that – to talk about why we won't play it. The fact that there are many more songs, movies, etc. out there that do the same thing as this song is not an acceptable answer to why we should just leave them be. The first step to solving a problem is admitting that there is a problem in the first place."
In response to those who say this song has nothing to do with rape:
"You know what, despite his statements, maybe Robin Thicke DIDN'T mean for these lyrics to be about blurred lines of consent. A lot of people have listened to this song, read these lyrics and not found anything that, to them, promoted rape. However, the intent of the writer is not always the same as the impact of their work. Perhaps to me, or you, or any other non-rapist out there, this is an innocent song and I am overacting; but in the eyes of a rapist this is confirmation of what they all already suspect: Everyone rapes. It's normal. We even have songs about it."
In response to those who think songs or jokes about rape are not a big deal:
Perhaps to me, or you, or any other non-rapist out there, this is an innocent song and I am overacting; but in the eyes of a rapist this is confirmation of what they all already suspect: Everyone rapes. It's normal. We even have songs about it.
See, study after study has proven one thing about rapists to be very true, this particular piece is taken from http://www.liberateyourself.co.uk/survivors/you-are-not-alone-personal-experiences/to-all-those-men-who-dont-think-the-rape-jokes-are-a-problem/ :
"Virtually all rapists genuinely believe that all men rape, and other men just keep it hushed up better. And more, these people who really are rapists are constantly reaffirmed in their belief about the rest of mankind being rapists like them by things like rape jokes, that dismiss and normalize the idea of rape.
If one in twenty guys (or more) is a real and true rapist, and you have any amount of social activity with other guys like yourself, then it is almost a statistical certainty that one time hanging out with friends and their friends, playing Halo with a bunch of guys online, in a WoW guild, in a pick-up game of basketball, at a bar, or elsewhere, you were talking to a rapist. Not your fault. You can't tell a rapist apart any better than anyone else can. It's not like they announce themselves.
But, here's the thing. It's very likely that in some of these interactions with these guys, at some point or another, someone told a rape joke. You, decent guy that you are, understood that they didn't mean it, and it was just a joke. And so you laughed.
Or maybe you didn't laugh. Maybe it just wasn't a very funny joke. So maybe you just didn't say anything at all.
And, decent guy who would never condone rape, who would step in and stop rape if he saw it, who understands that rape is awful and wrong and bad, when you laughed? When you were silent?
That rapist who was in the group with you, that rapist thought that you were on his side. That rapist knew that you were a rapist like him. And he felt validated, and he felt he was among his comrades.
You. The rapist's comrade.
And if that doesn't make you feel sick to your stomach, if that doesn't make you want to throw up, if that doesn't disturb you or bother you or make you feel like maybe you should at least consider not participating in that kind of humor anymore, not abiding it in your presence, not greeting it with silence…
Well, maybe you aren't as opposed to rapists as you claim.”
As Mia Freedman said "And to those who roll their eyes and say "Oh, it's a music video. What do you expect?” well let me tell you.
I expect a civilized society that respects women and expects them to push back. To say no, we won't play your song. No we won't let you perform on our TV show. No we won't interview you for our newspaper.
Because when we just shrug our shoulders and do nothing, we say it's OK. And that's how rape culture is allowed to flourish, through ‘funny' cartoons and catchy pop songs that casually normalize sexual assault and violence against women.”
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Barb on Sep 13, 2013 at 8:08 am
I have to agree with the person near the top of the page, is the yukon becoming so boring that you fill the paper with this? Kinda sad actually
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spencer sumanik on Sep 13, 2013 at 7:03 am
Robin Thicke's song is about how his wife is the man of the house and he ends up washing dishes cleaning, and doing laundry. The title "Blurred Lines" is referring to the change of stereotypical rolls in the house hold. The line "They tried to domesticate ya" is refering to other men trying to put his wife in the position to be the stereotypical house wife and she didn't want to. With that in a relationship Robin took on the household chores. Rape culture is nowhere even close to referenced in the song. Poor interpretation of literature can lead to many mistakes.
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Tiffany on Sep 13, 2013 at 6:34 am
Well Kendra and agreers, if you really believe that we need to take a stand as a community, I guess we all need to shut off the computers, tvs, stop going to movies, turn off the music boxes, quit reading the newspapers, quit looking on the internet, because guess what, the greater part of anything offensive is out there.
Here's the key, it's how you, as a parent, citizen, human decide to take in the message and learn from it. Last time I checked, we live in a free world, and while I may not like lyrics of some songs, I appreciate beats. I suggest you all go and use your energy to help rape victims and battered wives. That's where the real difference will be felt.
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yukoner4 on Sep 13, 2013 at 6:15 am
Someone got and offended by some song lyrics? How is this news? Theres a lot more important, newsworthy stuff going on in our territory and beyond.
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Move On Already! on Sep 13, 2013 at 6:09 am
I wish I had enough spare time in my day to be offended by the words of a song and make such a furor over it. I guess we better censor our tv's as well which actually show violence against women from time to time. Even CBC showed a movie several years back called something like 'Human Trafficking' that depicted eastern European women being violently sexually assaulted. It was pretty disturbing but I didn't hear any protests about that!
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borealis on Sep 13, 2013 at 5:58 am
These comments are completely missing the point! The song does degrade woman n Robin Thicke has even admitted the song is supposed to be degrading towards women to poke fun at many other modern songs which do the same. I doubt any of you condoning the song have ever been raped or you would understand how inappropriate it is to promote this!
I agree the song is catchy and I like the tune but the lyrics are a problem. If enough ppl across America asked their local radio stations to stop playing it, it will affect the song's popularity n then maybe the artist will consider changing the lyrics and creating a new version which is acceptable for all audiences. Lyrics have been changed for radio before but it won't happen this time unless ppl speak up about it! Good job Kendra for recognizing the danger this song may have!
Honestly I didn't notice the lyrics until I read this and I agree with her that if someone is already prone to rape this song could encourage them! Just because it will have no effect on the majority of the population, doesn't mean there aren't creeps out there that will use this song to normalize their twisted views! Yes I like the song but not the content so I am more than happy to go without listening to it to create a safer environment for women! It's totally worth it! Remove it CKRW!
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MusicFan on Sep 13, 2013 at 5:45 am
I recall this kind of adversity back in 2000 with eminem. Nothing is going to change freedom of speech, simple solution, you don't like the music, turn it down or off or even change radio stations.
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Anonymous on Sep 13, 2013 at 5:36 am
Must be nice to have your only problem be what's played on the radio.
You can interpret any song as what you see it as. It's a joke for you to think you can stop CKRW from playing what they want when they want.
As a radio station, they can play whatever whenever and it doesn't matter about what people like Kendra think. All that matters is their ratings, if you don't like what's being played, turn it off and don't support it.
To go all out and slander CKRW because of it is really pathetic and you should just turn it off rather then peg a business down.
Where were you when Pumped Kicks was being played? Don't have a problem with a kid talking about going into a school to shoot everyone?
.... Sad day in the news world if this is all we have to write stories about in our paper....
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KB on Sep 13, 2013 at 3:41 am
It's actually laughable that this song is being taken so far out of context. The song in no way condones rape and actually isn't about rape or forcing sexual acts upon someone at all. You're reading the lyrics as text and taking only the lines that serve your argument without writing those lyrics in context. Let's all be mature adults here, it's just a song and doesn't have the meaning that is being badly interpreted in this article.
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Tessa on Sep 13, 2013 at 3:40 am
Blown out of proportion it's just a song. He wasn't even sure about it but his wife.. A WOMAN... and all her friends loved it.
It is known he loves his wife and I think the song is fine.
Just because YOU and a handful of people don't like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be played for those who take it a different way and like it. When I don't like a song I change the station or put in a CD. I am not going to be like this song promotes drinking... stop playing it... Miley is a bad role model for all girls promoting its ok to exploit your body.. stop playing her music too k...
Better yet, only play disney songs.. wait some of those are racist.. so just stop playing music all together.. then we can all be happier right?
The song can be taken from many angles, this one is one he probably wasn't going for. Do research open your mind and look at it from an entertainment standpoint it's fine. Get over it and perhaps endorse a REAL cause to fight... like I don't know potential WWIII and Syria so I can read some real news.
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LRGagnon on Sep 13, 2013 at 2:24 am
It's certainly a catchy song and makes you wonder how many people really know the words. The discussion certainly makes us more aware of the songs content and ask if such content is acceptable. Shock content is not new, and I would say about 90% of top 100 songs have some type on content that may offend someone.
Be attentive to what's around you, ask questions and discuss, don't be sheeples.
I applaud Kendra for bringing it to the forefront, but don't agree with a ban or censorship.
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Sam Smith on Sep 13, 2013 at 1:12 am
I was thinking there could be censorship if necessary but not necessarily censorship.
Radio stations should voluntarily stop playing music if its offensive to women.
And I do think it's commendable to take a stand on some issues!
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Turn off the radio on Sep 13, 2013 at 1:10 am
Good for Kendra for sticking up for what she believes in. I'm all for that.
However, if you start banning 1 song, you're going to have to start banning MANY songs. There are tons of catchy songs on the radio that you end up liking. Then you listen to the lyrics and suddenly you change your mind because it's actually portraying a really awful message ("Pumped Up Kicks" by Foster the People, for example).
Then people will probably take it further and start banning music by bands that promote violence and drug use. It just goes on.
Again, great for Kendra for speaking up on what she believes, but really, it's just as easy to turn off the radio when seemingly offensive songs are played (as I do already). Like many songs, it will get it's plays and disappear for the most part.
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Rebecca on Sep 13, 2013 at 1:08 am
The other side of the argument, it's all in lyric interpretation:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/27/robin_thicke_s_blurred_lines_is_cocky_yes_but_rapey_and_misogynistic_no.html
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Kirsty Marie on Sep 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Thank you both to Kendra, Scott, and Diane for speaking up for hundreds of women in and outside of the Whitehorse community who can not speak up for themselves.
Of course it's a 'big hit', but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be questioning the meaning behind it (or any other song similar).
Thanks for getting people talking.
The last two sentences of this article sum it all up pretty clearly.
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maximus on Sep 12, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Just because one finds the song offensive..does that mean everyone else has to take offense...NO I think not..it's a popular song and is on the top charts..I mean if everyone didn't like something does that mean we would not have have our way..I think not...there are a lot of other worse song lyrics out there than these. My goodness..some people just have to bitch about everything
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DMZ on Sep 12, 2013 at 2:21 pm
It makes me a lot more anxious to think of music being policed than having a musician write a few questionable lyrics.
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Daniel Harms on Sep 12, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Kendra puts for a valid argument.
@Lisa: What makes it a "good song". It doesn't promote moral decency, but who defines that?
What we deem acceptable shapes us; do we want to build a society that parallels these views?
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Sheila on Sep 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Cmon, I am a single mother of 4 teen girls, ITS A SONG. Thinking someone just out to seek attention. I don't listen to the rush, but I do like this tune.
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agree on Sep 12, 2013 at 1:17 pm
I understand how some people may not agree with Kendras stance.. especially those who have never been raped.. but the song really upsets me.. I am a victim of spousal rape and like Robin Thick in the song would say "I know you want it." is what my bf would say to me. Even after I've clearly stated "NO!" Rapist have said and will say "she wanted it" or "I know YOU want it." over and over to convince themselves that what they are doing is okay. The song may not have not be about rape but it definitely reminds me of my own.
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Chris on Sep 12, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I don't think the above comments are really addressing Willems' concerns. She's not saying it's a bad song, or that she doesn't want to hear it because it offends her. She's concerned that the song actually has a bad effect on people, in a way that could personally affect her or people she knows. It doesn't sound to me like this is about offence...it sounds to me like it's about wanting people to be able to feel safe. Whether or not you (or I) agree is another story, but I don't think it's fair to act like she's pushing her offence on everyone else, or like her problem would be solved by changing the station. She is, after all, talking about rape and rape culture, which a lot of people (and statistics) agree is a huge issue for Canada. And everywhere.
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Jess Knight on Sep 12, 2013 at 11:23 am
Wow someone has way too much time on their hands, if you think a song promotes rape you have some major issues!
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momma of one. on Sep 12, 2013 at 11:10 am
It's a great song and clearly all around the world people love it. It has nothing to do with rape and saying it does is just cuz one person can't turn off the radio. What about all the bars and restaurants? You go in there and ruin it for everyone. Come on group up and don't listen to this crap. If you don't like it you don't have to listen. It's taking a way my freedom of listening to music. On the airway. I like to keep it.
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anonymous on Sep 12, 2013 at 9:56 am
I find it funny that CKRW has changed so much. I remember a song being requested years ago by a young girl. The lyrics included "sex and candy" and CKRW told her that they would not play that song when she requested it during the all request nooner. Then, the radio station got calls saying that they should have played the song and they ended up playing it.
Now CKRW has no problem with lyrics or content and will play it regardless of what the lyrics are.
I do agree that if you do not want to listen to it don't BUT some businesses play the local radio station (TD, etc.) and I'm sure this is not the kind of stuff they want their clients to be listening to.
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June Jackson on Sep 12, 2013 at 9:18 am
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Don't know who said that but perhaps its worth a reminder that everyone, even Ms. Willems has a right to her opinion, a right to turn the radio off, a right to let the radio know her opinion about the song. But, her rights stop there, she does not have the right to monitor what I choose to listen to.
By asking the station not to play the song, she infringes on my right to even hear the song and decide for myself whether I want to hear it or not.
Personally, I agree with the concept, but we lose bits and pieces of our rights every day, I am reluctant to surrender to Ms. Willems the right to decide what I should listen to.
You'll have to take another path Ms. Willems and followers. I will not allow you to make that determination for me. I simply to not believe in censorship of the media, not radio,TV, internet or short wave, and especially not for a song.
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Max Mack on Sep 12, 2013 at 9:15 am
Ultimately, I expect that any and all "unacceptable" views and thoughts will be marginalized in our increasingly intolerant society.
Our definitions of what is "acceptable" no longer have any "stretch", and those rules are being set by self-promoting groups within our society and continually reinforced by our media -- the very media that claims to value freedom of expression and freedom of thought.
It turns out that we, the people, are only free to express ideas that are in conformity.
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Hailey on Sep 12, 2013 at 9:07 am
I cannot believe this request is even being recognized. Reading this honestly just made me laugh. With all the real problems in the world, this is what you want to focus on?! There are a hundred things I could think up that promote "rape culture" more than this song. I've been around you when you were listening to songs much more offensive than this in my opinion... It's not a big deal. You shouldn't try to bubble rap your kids.
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Melba Disco Dancing Queen on Sep 12, 2013 at 8:44 am
I was driving home when I first heard this song. I loved the energy and the funk sound, then I caught the lyrics and was disappointed, repelled, and felt that the team behind the song was taking me for a fool, doing and saying anything for attention. I turned it off and turn off the radio every time this song comes on. It is an insult to my intelligence.
The saddest thing about this malignant song is that it could have been good. Really good. It seems that the people behind it thought it was lame enough that it needed shock lyrics to get through to the market. Too bad. Now it will go down as just a pathetic skanky song that got lots of attention for a few months.
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Good on 'ya on Sep 12, 2013 at 8:27 am
Well articulated and intelligent Kendra. While indeed we all retain the right (and hopefully common sense) to simply turn off something that offends us - and we should rather than assume that someone else needs to be accountable or responsible for our own actions - this is still a bigger picture issue that needs attention. I commend you, regardless of what the trolls on the Whitehorse Star commentary page "stand for", for bringing this topic into the open.
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getoverit on Sep 12, 2013 at 8:26 am
This is ridiculous, of course it's offensive, that's what people get off on now a days! Unfortunately requesting the removal of one song is absolutely fine, but do you actually analyze and break down every other song that is played on CKRW or Much Music, or whatever else that you listen to? lol honestly, think about it. If you are offended by this I can only imagine what else you are offended by.
Publicity is publicity! Whether it be positive or negative, either way you are still giving these people exactly what they want. This will never end, this will continue on for years just as it always has, so my suggestion to you is...
turn off your radio, your television and hide in your closet OR get over it!
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Jackie Ward on Sep 12, 2013 at 7:51 am
You better ask them to stop playing every Top 40 pop song while you are at it. If it offends you so much, don't listen to it. Simple.
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Aparent Boy on Sep 12, 2013 at 7:31 am
Yeah censorship! The mind sees what the minds sees. How Rorschach of you. And why are you making a big deal of this forgettable song when you obviously listen to all the other artists in this genre? You are only making it more popular. Stupidity makes the brain hurt!
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Lisa on Sep 12, 2013 at 6:57 am
Slow News Day Whitehorse Star?
It's a great song, and an opinion from ONE person who doesn't like the song.
Personally, I think it's one of the top tunes of the summer, Crank it up