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Some Yukoners perplexed by self-isolation rules

It looks as if the Yukon government and public health officials may have work to do to clarify some of their COVID-19 policies with the public.

By Tim Giilck on January 22, 2021

It looks as if the Yukon government and public health officials may have work to do to clarify some of their COVID-19 policies with the public.

Earlier this week, a post on social media regarding self-isolation policies provoked more than 100 comments – many of them quite contradictory.

Here’s a selection of those comments.

One person said: “I asked some questions a few months back to officer in the airport. He was like, you can do whatever you want as long as you don’t come in another human contact or you can’t visit places where there are chances of people coming from different bubbles like restaurants.”

That provoked a lively discussion.

“That’s not true. I’m currently in quarantine as we traveled for medical and was told that we’re unable to leave our home besides going for a walk within our bubble,” one person said.

Another person chipped in with “you’re allowed to leave for essential if you have no other options.”

Yet another person responded to that statement with “Are you sure? I was told we’re not allowed to leave.”

More comments followed debating exactly what people can do while they are self-isolating.

“I just finished quarantine and they don’t want you driving unless it’s essential. They do not want you to drive somewhere and go for a walk or a ski, They said it’s in case there was an accident or a breakdown. It’s to prevent coming into contact with paramedics or needing to get a ride. They (public health officials) write to me in CAPITALS do not leave your house.”

“I don’t think you can drive anywhere during a quarantine,” another person chipped in.

Yet another person said, “I’m in quarantine now and the COVID line told me I can order groceries online and go pick it up via parking lot pick up.”

Equally puzzling was the fact that many of the people commenting were citing what they had found on the government website or what they had allegedly been told by government officials.

Even more startling was this comment.

“I was told by them (government officials) I could self-isolate in my home with my roommate and my roommate didn’t have to self-isolate,” one woman wrote.

When that information was provided to government officials via a link to the conversation, Aisha Montgomery, the director of communications for the Department of Community Services, staunchly defended the government’s approach – and dismissed the confusion demonstrated in the discussion.

“I see a fair number of people on this thread re-iterating the right place to get the most current and correct information and sharing the right information,” she said.

Montgomery also said the government is monitoring social media to keep apprised of public sentiment.

“Yes, some of my colleagues within YG are tracking social media and posting the link to http://Yukon.ca to steer people in the right direction where possible,” Montgomery said.

“However we may not be able to track and reach all channels and all threads as I’m sure you can appreciate.

“Yukon is in a good place right now with no active cases and we see high rates of compliance with self-isolation upon entry to the territory, which means the vast majority of people are getting the right information and following the rules.”

During their weekly COVID-19 briefing Wednesday afternoon, Premier Sandy Silver and the medical officer of health, Dr. Brendan Hanley, said they were confident the government is providing the best information possible as well, despite the anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

Both men said best efforts are made to keep the information up-to-date on the government website. That information has changed on a regular basis, which makes it more challenging to communicate it to the public clearly, they said.

“If we see a problem or something to be addressed, we will look at it,” Hanley said.

Comments (12)

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Josey Wales on Jan 26, 2021 at 6:04 am

Gee the way I see it, the "Yukoners" we have in Whitehorse that drive... get perplexed at stop signs & traffic lights.
...perplexed that an "individual" even exists, much less holds an opinion that is contrary to "the collective" of wee commi's in training in this engineered collective.
...many seem really perplexed with resistance to subjugation via state actors. so yes, I agree we have a population that gets perplexed really easy.
Exactly why the attitudes up here "feel" the state will keep you safe, feel a part of comradeship.
I am perplexed as to how...clearly..."lest we forget" has been so quickly forgotten.
Haters, Liberal blind sycophants, state drones....fire away, vent at what perplexes you with dissent and free thinkers as I.

Canada used to be rife with tough people, now it seems we are too often milk toast complete pussies scared of a shadow.
What the hell happened to us, anyone..it is a question.
I have a few of my own ideas, but am interested in others.

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Dorothy Lebel on Jan 25, 2021 at 2:52 pm

Here's another example of a Canadian physician who speaks out against lockdowns. There are many more, but their voice is suppressed by MSM.

"Courageous Ontario ER Physician, Dr. Patrick Phillips, Describes Lives Lost, Diseases Worsened by "Lockdown" Public Health Policies"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoeAo00KdLI&fbclid=IwAR3Tjzrke9g_qlSiY5ap8sntwKj7OuTHC_xP1IYG6Nwragy1VitH2-9n_iM

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Dorothy Lebel on Jan 25, 2021 at 2:28 pm

Some people fall for the MSM's fear mongering anecdotes of young people dying of covid-19 as a reason why we should all be locked up. There is no eradicating covid-19 with lock downs and masks, as it is widespread worldwide. The best approach is, and has always been, stay home if you're sick.

For decades, statistics have shown that the flu has killed some young people or severely injured some people who recover, but the great majority of people fully recover from the flu, just as with covid-19. And yet we've never had lock downs for the flu. The difference with covid-19 is that it has been politicized to an extraordinary level, with lock downs that cause far more harm than good.
MSM censorship of dissenting medical professionals (including Canadian physicians) is also unprecedented. Best to look at independent media to hear their voices.

There are many Canadian physicians who opposed lock downs. Occasionally, MSM will mention this. Here is an example.

Quoting Canadian Dr. Ari Joffe, specialist in pediatric infectious diseases:
"... framing decisions as between saving lives versus saving the economy is a false dichotomy. There is a strong long-run relationship between economic recession and public health. This makes sense, as government spending on things like healthcare, education, roads, sanitation, housing, nutrition, vaccines, safety, social security nets, clean energy, and other services determines the population well-being and life-expectancy. If the government is forced to spend less on these social determinants of health, there will be ‘statistical lives’ lost, that is, people will die in the years to come."
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/canadian-experts-research-finds-lockdown-harms-are-10-times-greater-than-benefits?fbclid=IwAR2d9Gv79D7PNl_h1jdIUNhYa0l3meZkdjU-sU-kwxojyp9pDhH-mYqd-hw

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Sue Sez on Jan 24, 2021 at 12:49 pm

Dear Dorothy, you are quoting months old WHO statements. This month, in this New Yr. The WHO have admitted they too were too slow & too unprofessional in their leadership World role. MOST healthy people can certainly be carriers to MOST of everyone else hence the spread of infection. It is not the low % rate of fatality, tho the family of the 19 yr. old that just died from Covid do not care for % quotes, it IS the lingering debilitated lifestye after "recovery" that scars survivors. I felt & now it has been shown that a STRICTER early lock down would of returned our lives to "normal" sooner. YT's ability to close outside intrusion (geography) & the willingness of Yukoners months ago to restrict themselves would of put you in a more favorable position in the present. The Sun is returning-try harder now for those longer days ahead.

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Dave on Jan 24, 2021 at 12:40 pm

Meanwhile I’m reading that 3 Air Transat flights from Haiti to Canada within the last 10 days have had so many Covid infected passengers that Health Canada deemed the entire planes infected. Supposedly due to the Liberals selective enforcement of who has to follow the rules. Haiti is special due to lack of testing infrastructure so people flying from there don’t have to have negative Covid tests beforehand. This politically correct Liberal BS has to stop, it’s now going to directly end up responsible for killing Canadians due to stupidity such as this. Compare this to a Canadian woman got fined $880 for dropping her kids off at their grandparents. This is madness!

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Juniper Jackson on Jan 24, 2021 at 10:40 am

Dorothy is right. Already, too many people don't get to own anything. Their clothes. Staying in a hotel room. One of our hotels is just a boarding house. Are they going to have a partner, children, a home? Nope. Some go out to work a $15 an hour job. Can't pay rent on that at $1200 for a room, so they are welfare assisted, some just buy their dope and prowl around at night. But the point is.. they have nothing and under the current tax and employment structure, they will never have anything. One by one, we will all fall into that boarding house.

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Liberal disaster on Jan 23, 2021 at 8:38 pm

The communications and clarity of everything has been a disaster for the entire pandemic. No leaders in the room.
Rules don't make sense or contradict each other and the Premier and Ministers don't even understand the stuff enough to explain it.

Sit in on a briefing with one of these politicians and you will wonder if they finished high school.
Do better!

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Dorothy Lebel on Jan 23, 2021 at 2:55 pm

This quarantining of the healthy is a strange new concept that comes from assumptions that there is such a thing as asymptomatic transmission. It wasn’t always so.

On June 8, 2020 WHO stated they have data indicating that asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is rare:
“WHO Says It's 'Rare' for Asymptomatic Covid-19 Patients to Infect Others”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKtO4K71k7E

And the next day WHO backtracked that statement by saying they “don’t know”.
Really? They have data, but they don’t know it?

Fact is, there are studies that have concluded there is no asymptomatic transmission. Here is one:
“No evidence of secondary transmission of COVID-19 from children attending school in Ireland”,
published by Eurosurveillance, May 2020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7268273/

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Arn Anderson on Jan 23, 2021 at 1:50 pm

Regulations are pretty clear but I can see how and why people will get confused.

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Spud on Jan 23, 2021 at 10:35 am

Well Dorothy Lebel, get a life. The information is sent out to all agencies but not all review same thus deliver inadequate info. Should they be fired? Or should maybe use your brain?

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June on Jan 22, 2021 at 7:30 pm

Confusion is right. Our company was told it was okay to work with an outsider company. The company came up from Alberta on the weekend and was in contact with other contractors later the same week. But because they were considered essential they could. This is not the first time “essential contractors” have come up and worked here without isolation.

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Dorothy Lebel on Jan 22, 2021 at 3:28 pm

Of course there's confusion, because these rules have no rational basis. These rules are akin to sinking our ship in mid-ocean in order to prevent a rat infestation, and the only ones with access to life boats are government paid employees, and the super-wealthy 1%.

These restrictions are sinking the Yukon’s most important industries: tourism, aviation, hospitality, etc. And we are saddled with an impossibly enormous debt that will damage our social programs for lack of future funding, for generations to come. (It’s already started to happen.)
All of this for a covid-19 virus that has a very low fatality rate, the great majority of infected people only have mild or no symptoms.

Obviously our politicians aren't using logic and facts with the covid issue, they are only obeying the WHO’s directives, despite its obvious conflict of interest with big pharma which is hugely profiting from vaccine sales.

If we let this continue, we will have no choice but be herded into the Great Reset already advocated by Trudeau. Look at it closely, the Great Reset is just the modern version of a feudal system: you will own nothing, and your life will be controlled by the overlord oligarchs who have hugely profited from this scamdemic and acquired bankrupted businesses at bargain prices, while they offer their overpriced monopolies.

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