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Christine Tapp, Gerard Dinn, Kate Mechan and Health and Social Services Minister Pauline Frost

Solutions proposed for shelter-area problems

The Whitehorse Emergency Shelter will undergo a number of significant changes geared to addressing the issue of homelessness in Yukon and the safety concerns of community members.

By Gabrielle Plonka on October 28, 2019

The Whitehorse Emergency Shelter will undergo a number of significant changes geared to addressing the issue of homelessness in Yukon and the safety concerns of community members.

“When the Government of Yukon began operating the facility as a low-barrier shelter, the full scope of this problem became even more apparent as more and more clients began accessing the facility not just for the shelter, but also to meet a range of other health and social needs,” Health and Social Services Minister Pauline Frost told a press conference this morning.

“I want (community members) to know that we hear them and we acknowledge those frustrations. The problem here is not the shelter … these are symptoms of real problems in our society.”

Frost suggested that the solution to issues surrounding the shelter is complex and must address the root issues of homelessness.

Frost announced several new initiatives for the shelter aiming to improve safety, long-term housing, health services, programming, client involvement and information- sharing.

Each of the initiatives is either currently underway or in development for implementation plans in the near future.

A panel of six experts working in the shelter ecosystem, including the RCMP, EMS and Department of Health and Social Services representatives, were made available to media to discuss the implementation of the initiatives.

To address safety concerns surrounding the Fourth Avenue shelter, the Department of Justice plans to station a community liaison officer at the facility, which opened in late 2017. The officer will focus on “supporting the facility and community-based policing.”

Whitehorse’s RCMP detachment commander, Keith Mackinnon, clarified that the community liaison officer will be a separate entity from the Kwanlin Dün First Nation community patrol.

Mackinnon said a recent study found his detachment received approximately 46 calls to the shelter per week.

Since the low-barrier approach was adopted, and the shelter became more of a “hang-out”, there has been an increase in violent incidents.

Mackinnon said he is in support of a community liaison officer who will build relationships and become a point of contact between RCMP and shelter guests.

“It doesn’t become so much of a police approach, per se, in terms of traditional arrest,” he said. “It’s more; how can you help these people?”

A community safety plan is also under development, with collaboration from RCMP, First Nations governments, non-government organizations as well as business and community members.

Frost said there is consideration of implementing a good neighbour agreement.

Within the shelter, staff are developing a Peer Outreach Program with facility guests who will conduct safety and wellness checks and provide outreach to vulnerable community members.

To aid shelter guests who are consistently homeless, the facility’s 20 transitional units will be repurposed as permanent housing.

Christine Tapp, the director of social services with oversight at the shelter, said there are fewer than 10 residents currently residing in the transitional units. Some of the transitional residents have successfully been moved into permanent housing, she said.

The vacant units allow the department to “revision” the space’s purpose.

“What we’ve seen over the past several months is: one of the most pressing needs is permanent housing, supportive housing for individuals who are chronically homeless with very complex health and support needs,” Tapp said.

“In a community where we have so few housing resources, making sure we’re using the small amount of resources that we have well, to house the most vulnerable people first, and then outwards from there.”

To provide on-site health services, two emergency medical services (EMS) paramedics were newly stationed at the shelter last week. A paramedic will now be available at the facility 10 hours a day, seven days a week.

Gerard Dinn, Yukon Medical Services’ clinical operations manager, said the move to on-site medical services will ease the burden currently shouldered by emergency responders.

Dinn said approximately 700 calls to the shelter have been logged by EMS since May, or three to five every day.

The two EMS workers now stationed at the shelter have gone through paramedic specialist training, which involves education in treating patients with substance abuse issues.

Community Services Minister John Streicker said the stationed EMS workers will, similar to the liaison officer, be able to build relationships with shelter guests, resulting in the prevention of escalating chronic conditions and better service provision.

“We are seeing a positive difference, and this is just the beginning,” Streicker said.

Two mental health workers will be hired at the facility, including a psychiatric nurse and a counsellor.

A social worker and outreach worker will also be hired to support guests and connect them to resources.

Due to the high number of drop-in clients at the shelter, Health and Social Services is considering adding two more workers on top of the planned hires to address demand.

To expand programming, other staff members have been reassigned to focus on activities with a First Nations focus.

Last summer, a guest advisory committee was introduced at the shelter. They give advice and recommendations to staff regarding services, and played a role in the development of these new initiatives, according to Tapp.

The shelter is also launching a monthly newsletter, Tapp said, that will highlight activities and programming at the shelter. It will also provide community members with some information about operations.

The changes to the shelter will be implemented collaboratively within the Health and Social Services, Justice and Community Services departments.

Safe At Home, a Whitehorse-based organization focused on ending homelessness, provided part of the framework for the initiatives.

Kate Mechan, the Safe At Home implementation manager, commended shelter staff and community members for working together to find solutions.

“We are in the midst of a systems change, and a systems change is really hard, it’s really hard work,” Mechan said. “It requires bold decisions, it requires transparency and it requires we have relationships that are built on trust.”

Mechan said Safe At Home is working on the monthly newsletter and a catch-all website for homelessness in Yukon.

At the end of March 2020, a progress report will be released on the status of 80 actions. Each action item has a person assigned to it, she said, guaranteeing movement forward.

She said the mission of Safe At Home is to encourage greater co-ordination across all systems and to develop better data resources to aid informed decision-making.

The real goal, Mechan said, extends beyond the shelter.

“Shelters are not what end homelessness; permanent supported housing ends homelessness,” Mechan said, adding the programming for the shelter is not the “be-all-end-all” solution for the territory.

“We all know it’s not entirely smooth sailing. I think the announcements today … will move us in the right direction.”

During the summer, several nearby business owners and members of the public went to city council and complained about the disruptions caused by those lurking outside the shelter until all hours of the night.

The problems have included shouting, fighting, trespassing on nearby properties, the smashing of bottles and alarming passersby, including visitors to the territory.

Comments (45)

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JohnW on Nov 2, 2019 at 10:02 pm

Enforce the laws for drunk and disorderly. Arrest drunks, and take them to the unused secure facility on Range road. After they sleep it off they'll get a shower, a meal and a dose of Antabuse before they're released.
Disulfiram--brand name Antabuse--produces sensitivity to alcohol that causes a very unpleasant reaction when an alcoholic patient ingests small amounts of alcohol. That will keep them sober for a while to see if counselling will work. Repeat as required.
This will cure the problem instead of enabling the addiction.

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Al on Nov 2, 2019 at 2:40 pm

@ Boyd Campbell

Perhaps Boyd what you may be referring to is a provision under the Maintenance Bylaw in the City that address noise. It reads:

"NOISE
42. No person shall make, cause, or permit unreasonable noise or sound, including, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, on a highway or on property owned or occupied by them, which disturbs, or which would in the opinion of a Designated Officer, disturb the quiet, peace, rest, enjoyment or comfort of any person of reasonable sensitivity in the neighbourhood or vicinity.
43. In determining if a noise or sound is unreasonable, the following criteria may be considered:
(1) type, quality, volume, and duration of the sound;
(2) time of day and day of week;
(3) nature and use of the surrounding"

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North_of_60 on Nov 2, 2019 at 1:34 pm

@drum makes a good point. The building is not a "Homeless Shelter" it's a community centre for drunks and drug addicts.
"Harm reduction" = enabling. So why doesn't the government just give them free booze and drugs; it would cost less for the taxpayers in the long run.

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Boyd Campbell on Nov 1, 2019 at 8:30 pm

@ Sue them
This may be accomplished easier than one thinks. Check out the " Nuisance Act" as I believe this is a piece of Yukon legislation. You have the right as a tax paying member of society to enjoy your property which is not encumbered by this type of BS.

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John on Nov 1, 2019 at 7:00 pm

So you live downtown and you’re surprised to have a nearby shelter? Live downtown and you’re surprised to see drunks and addicts? Wish it was like other cities? Oh wait, it is like every other city, my oh my, what a big surprise.

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drum on Nov 1, 2019 at 5:23 pm

I agree with Sue Them
I cannot believe that the businesses in the area have not sued the Government and the City for loss of revenue - how on earth can Duffy's make a living with the low life's hanging around their entrance fighting, swearing, pushing and shoving - staggering around - drunk and threatening. Welfare day the other day so there is an especially a large drunk crowd outside the "Homeless Shelter". Such a stupid name - it does not cater to homeless people. Most of those people have homes!!!!!!!! Mild weather today and yesterday so lots of drunks to be seen.

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Sue them on Nov 1, 2019 at 2:13 pm

The government should offer to buy all the properties within a two block radius at market plus 25%, (to help with moving costs and in lieu of damages); then move their own government social assistance offices into those properties.

I am completely amazed that the surrounding property owners have not yet launched a lawsuit against the government for loss of value / loss of use / loss of enjoyment of their properties.

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Yukon123 on Nov 1, 2019 at 8:01 am

I wonder what would happen if the centre had been built in the minister's neighbourhood?

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ShortSharpShock on Nov 1, 2019 at 7:30 am

Solutions ? Beef up the on-site security with a joint task force comprising privately-funded patrols to identify repeat offenders in public space, together with specially-trained RCMP personnel authorized to enforce specific procedures to maintain civility for tax-paying citizens.

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Josey Wales on Oct 31, 2019 at 10:20 pm

Hey north of 60....BINGO!

Almost like self proclaimed nobility are using their subjects as a human resource...and your point suggests self sustaining.
Use B.O.L.E as a tool to keep the plantation nice and stocked, I suggest.
Those are the “roots” of the problem.

Between the WCB building and this enabling Mecca for souses and addicts, they can continue to have a taxpayer funded contest to see which building and staff can out bloat each other.

Instead of a wee hospital for pariahs, put a community police station there staffed with armed state actors with no political orders to follow...only Canada’s criminal code to enforce...yes ENFORCE!

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Phil Yorboots on Oct 31, 2019 at 6:10 pm

@ Salt - You are very much on track with the parasitic, political class feeding off of the public teat.
Quite literally the Yukon is one mass of Social Assistance recipients contained within a particular geography.

It reminds me of Eddie Murphy’s standup comedy act in Delirious - You’re on da welfare you can't afford none...

What is the Yukon’s biggest industry? You could be forgiven for saying, “government workers”. Really, the Yukon’s biggest industry is spending taxpayer monies under the pretense of industry - The grand illusion... You wonder why they lie - Because that is the game!

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Minerva Baker on Oct 31, 2019 at 5:20 pm

Whoever came up with the term "guest" was out of his mind (seriously).

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drum on Oct 31, 2019 at 5:14 pm

Most are not homeless. They are on Welfare (taxpayers money) and have Low Cost Housing or live in Hotels - all rents paid by taxpayers. If they are Homeless - they choose to be because there are so many facilities and programs to look after them if they chose or they are so hard to handle that they cannot ever be housed. They are mentally unstable and should be treated as such. They should be off the streets into a safe environment where there is professionally qualified people to take care of them.

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North_of_60 on Oct 31, 2019 at 12:50 pm

The Liberal govt and their gaggle of NGOs have no real incentive to solve the chronic problem of homeless addicts wandering the streets, harassing people and causing mischief. If they solved the 'homeless problem' they would be out of a job. Since there is little or no evidence that the problem is being mitigated in any way, it appears that the 'homeless addicts' are being cultivated as a cash crop so the funding keeps rolling in.

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Salt on Oct 31, 2019 at 10:37 am

Only in a world where our parasitic political class feeds off about $1 billion dollars of other people’s earnings each year, is such a dysfunctional and delusional situation possible. Addiction needs treatment, but what we have instead now is the normalization of degeneracy. A disgrace on so many levels.

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Bill Williams on Oct 30, 2019 at 7:07 pm

Try living next to this zoo. Never knowing when you have to walk the gauntlet to get home. Noise all night, zombies outside my window, can't leave my window cracked at night as someone might try to climb in. This once nice neighborhood has turned into a nightmare. There may be some vigilante justice on it's way, when law enforcement won't do its job some people will.

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Destiny Klande-Stein on Oct 30, 2019 at 6:48 pm

I love the way the shelter is thrust out at you as you drive down 4th avenue. All the social issues right there in your face. You literally have to steer around them. Was the building design intentional? In your face Whitehorse! Just make sure your window is rolled up though as you drive past the spitters and the gobbers - You don’t want that to be literally in your face!

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The Time has Come on Oct 30, 2019 at 6:45 pm

Where does it say exactly that we have to put up with this type of behaviour in the downtown core of our city? For some reason the rights of regular society have to take a back burner to people who for the most part, don’t want or refuse to be helped no matter how much help is offered.
What if any of the announced improvements will help with the problems in the area? One liaison officer who can do what? Tell them to behave? Yes, most of these individuals are a product of society or how they were unable to deal with society. And yes, help should be given to them to integrate them back. If they don’t, the problem will again follow down through generations. If they cannot or refuse to integrate back into society, then there should be a facility for them that eliminates them from harming themselves or anyone else. Enabling their actions does not, and will never solve the issue.
Follow the multi millions of dollars spent on programs, facilities, prisons, social housing and the problem has just seemed to grow. What we are doing is not working.

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drum on Oct 30, 2019 at 6:18 pm

This current Liberal Government has created our own Skid Row/East Hastings right here in our own small town of Whitehorse.. This is disgusting!!!!! Minister Frost- we will not forget even though the "CLIENTS" are driven inside because of cold weather. They will emerge next spring. Most of these CLIENTS who use the Shelter are not homeless - they are on Welfare, Living in Low Cost Housing, Communities or Hotels and have their rent paid by Taxpayers and enjoy monthly welfare cheques which allow them to be drunk and use drugs and have three free meals a day at the "Homeless Shelter". Taxpayers are getting fed up with this!!!! When is the Liberal Government going to do something for hardworking Canadians who pay taxes in this town and Country?

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Obi on Oct 30, 2019 at 2:47 pm

Question, when is a law not a law?
Answer, when the RCMP refuse to enforce it!

Where is our law enforcement? I think the local detachment should pick up their coffee, and a box of donuts, and send a police car to the party central shelter every morning, and park it there.
If a law is broken, do your job and arrest the perpetrators, and keep doing it until everybody gets the message.

When we are paid to do a job, everybody will have things to do they don't like, but the alternative is don't apply for the job. If all you do is pick and choose the laws you want to enforce, then society will be in real trouble....

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North_of_60 on Oct 30, 2019 at 1:58 pm

I avoid that area as much as possible. It's too bad that government ineptitude has caused this problem and tax paying business must suffer.
The government administrators and their coterie of NGO enablers should be removed from this project and replaced with hard nosed administrators using 'tough love' as the guidelines. Community service like picking up litter should be required of anyone who uses this facility. Many municipalities have adopted this requirement with good success.

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Michael Miller on Oct 30, 2019 at 1:53 pm

Let's go panhandle on main street for spare change for a coffee and a bottle of villa.
It's cold so let's hang out at the library then go for a hot meal at the Centre of Hope.

Just have to kill a few more hours drinking and hanging out before sleeping and of course same same tomorrow and next week.
I do want to change but it's hard when society enables me.

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Groucho d'North on Oct 30, 2019 at 10:37 am

A critical measure of effective health care is to treat the disease rather than the symptoms. It would appear that those within the department of Health and Social Services and some of their NGO partners remain confused about what is causing this sad situation to fester and grow since the Liberals decided to go it alone without the historic and valuable assistance of the Salvation Army.
Some of the First Nation leadership did not like the policies the Sally Ann operated their shelter by and whispered into the ears of the current government for them to create the system now in place and the results it has yielded for all to see. There is not even an agreement by the various players to what the concerns should be focused on, rather there is even more fragmentation as the various partner organisations try to get their key issues on the table for some purpose. Homelessness, substance abuse, intergenerational traumas are all tossed into the same pot further confounding the dilemma and wasting much time and budget,
Clearly some training in issues management and effective problem solving are required. Truthfully I don’t expect anything will get better in the near term, in fact I predict these problems will only become worse as more and more of these unfortunate people from the challenged sectors of our communities show up at the Shelter hat in hand for their benefits.
But consider the alternative, once these poor people are “cured”, they may become capable to qualify for employment where they will go to work and struggle to make ends meet, pay taxes and have greater responsibilities thrust on them as a member of our society. How many are eager to get on that path to wellness?

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Humble Measure on Oct 30, 2019 at 9:05 am

I have sympathy for people whose lives have gone to s**t, and I understand that we need to have a homeless shelter here for survival reasons. That said, I avoid that part of 4th Avenue now. People are hunching across the road any old place, spaced out, with no consideration of where the crosswalk is. People are fighting, shouting, and harassing passers-by. It's turned into our own little skid row. It's going to be the biggest factor in my decision on whether to enroll my kid at Whitehorse elementary. What's the solution? I have no idea.

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Liberal Minority on Oct 29, 2019 at 10:46 pm

Good to see another Shelter story in the news. Gives all the neo cons something else to complain about.
Was getting tired of all the belly aching about losing to those darn liberals (again)..

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Lost In the Yukon on Oct 29, 2019 at 7:31 pm

I see my response was heavily redacted .. what was cut out was my contention that the Minister is ultimately responsible and needs to step down because her track record on this and too many other issues demonstrates her lack of ability to be responsible for this department; I also suggested that the Director of Social Services (the same one the Premier and Minister gave an award to for this mess) needs to be reassigned ... Finally, where is the invisible Deputy Minister? Once again, nowhere to be found. I suspect he is actively looking for employment in another jurisdiction (and on your dime) as he flits from international conference to international conference “networking”.

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drum on Oct 29, 2019 at 5:58 pm

Liberals are in way over their heads. Minister Frost most of all. They cannot even handle what should be a small problem but is now taking over the whole of the City. Most of these people hanging around the "Shelter" are not homeless. They just like to be on welfare and drink and use drugs at taxpayers expense. They should not be allowed to break the law - that is what they are doing. Is there laws for law abiding people who pay taxes and work and different easier laws for law breakers and welfare recipients in this town? Law abiding, taxpaying citizens no longer feel safe in their own home.

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b on Oct 29, 2019 at 5:38 pm

Anyone who could not see that this would turn into an unmitigated disaster under a government watch with soft rules is sorefully naive. Please do not go back and get your PHD. There is such a lack of common sense here.

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BnR on Oct 29, 2019 at 4:26 pm

Man, lots of short or selective (or failing?) memories in the comments.
Who built this thing? Who picked where it would go? Who planned this debacle?
Yukon Party. Period. Mike Nixon and co.
Who paid a certain Conservative supporting business family full market value for a contaminated lot, then let taxpayers pay for the clean up?
Yukon Party.
This was a failed vision. Sally Anne never had the capacity to run a shelter of the magnitude the YP foisted on them. It was doomed to fail.

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My Two Cents on Oct 29, 2019 at 3:57 pm

The area around the shelter has become the addicts/drunks party place. If you have no rules for children they become spoiled very quickly. If you have no rules for adults it is so much worse. I feel for the businesses and residents in the area.

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Jean Dacko on Oct 29, 2019 at 3:29 pm

This shelter was not well thought out. A high density shelter in the middle of town has created problems. It’s now a day care for drunks and addicts. Three full course meals a day is crazy. How about cereal for breakfast, soup and sandwiches for lunch and a full course meal at night? Just like the rest of us.
Allowing users to lock up their bottle at night if their not finished with it and get it the next morning is crazy. They no longer have to wait for the liquor store to open! And where do the people go who are working on sobriety? Certainly not here. The Government always thinks they can do better but they have taken a little problem and made it much worse. Bring out the bandaids!

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Michael Miller on Oct 29, 2019 at 2:47 pm

The real problem is enabling.

Stop blaming others for these peoples problems. Instead of free meals have them work an hour on a city cleanup before a meal.
If you enable and not make people responsible for their behaviour the behaviour will cycle through generations. It's profound but if you treat people like children they usually act like children.
If the government wants to give free meals do so in a safe non alcohol non drug environment that people in need can access.

G.d helps those who help themselves.

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Darren Neil Anderson on Oct 29, 2019 at 1:00 pm

Some good conversations here. The general consensus in this forum appears to be the need for personal accountability. Yes - Personal accountability!

Any counsellor worth a grain of salt knows that “personal accountability” is the only way to change. Without it you have the chaos that this government is creating now. Not only is politics antithetical to the notion of personal accountability it cannot accept it even theoretically as it is and always will be at odds with the requisite political ideal of power.

Throw in some power, a little dash of unhealthy narcissism, a pinch of legitimation - the vote, and then a big scoop of image maintenance and you have the perfect storm: Social chaos.

This is what the liberals have created - anarchy and the perpetuation of anarchy as the counter to what - Oh yah, white privilege - Well, privilege for some white people anyway - Wait a minute... Maybe it’s the climate emergency - No, white privilege... What? White privilege has created this climate change emergency... I thought it was the millennial hew and cry?

I’m confused - It must be all the social chaos...

Maybe I am not white? I can only hope... Waiting for the DNA results so I can settle on a clear direction - It’s my fault or it’s not... Come on DNA!

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Mike steward on Oct 29, 2019 at 12:16 pm

The real root of the problem is the people’s attitudes, addictions, and lifestyle. If you don’t fix that it’ll be $100,000,000.00 spent and still the same problem. Don’t enable or allow this s**t show to continue down there. Help the ones who want the help and put the rest on a wash my hands of list. Government always moving at a snails pace and wasting boatloads of taxpayers money. Crazy world!

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Scott on Oct 29, 2019 at 11:32 am

The behaviors demonstrated by those frequenting the shelter are not because of homelessness. It is because of the drug and alcohol dependency and the drug dependence, in turn, does not allow them to work, which, in turn, means they cannot pay for a roof over their heads. Government and workers can say housing is the problem, but until the "guest" enter some type of drug and alcohol management system, they will continue to be homeless.

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Max Mack on Oct 29, 2019 at 8:39 am

As I expected, Frost and crew simply double down on their failed vision.

On top of staff increases that have already taken place, they now plan to hire one or more "community liaison workers", two paramedics, two mental health workers (a psychiatric nurse and a counsellor), a social worker, an outreach worker, and possibly two more workers to address "increased demand". By my count, that is 9 new hires (that we know about) or about $900,000 per year in new expenses.

And yet none of this will solve the problem, as homelessness is not the root cause of what is going on at the shelter. I don't know, maybe another $million or two will solve it.

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Josey Wales on Oct 29, 2019 at 8:13 am

Changes....? In how the enabling will move forward?
Only change required is to absolutely dump the PC Crusaders dogma and its minion B.O.L.E.
The bigotry of lower expectations has long ago destroyed this one lovely community.

But hey we are saved though, as we have a plastic bag ban now, our community leaders with the ethics and devotion to their subjects...team Red will save us all with aggressive policies that are fully inclusive.

Yeah yeah...I know the drill...my fault not their life choices.
The changes actually required, resulted in only a minority.
The metric Democrats love having the fulcrum of their favourite pander class “subjected” to promises of change.
...and they wrote the Indian act, hence the mess in our core.
Like I said, we had a chance to make serious changes...we choose not to.
“What we got here is a failure to communicate....”

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Glenys Baltimore on Oct 28, 2019 at 11:20 pm

I am the owner of a business in a two block radius of this new low barriers shelter. Although I support the drive to end homelessness and to support those most vulnerable in our territory, it must be said that there have been few efforts to effectively mitigate the presence of this relatively large shelter which is providing a great range of services and where firm and fair rules around behaviour are not in place. In fact, area businesses and residents are directly impacted. If one operates a business, for instance, which relies on attracting the public (there are two food businesses, a salon, a daycare, a pet store, a real estate company and a glass business to name a few) this area has, since becoming a low barriers shelter, become much less attractive.
The incidence of problematic behaviour has risen dramatically. This ranges from inebriation, public drinking and open alcohol to flagrant sexual activity to drug use, vandalism, aggressive begging from patrons to.. well, let’s just say that It’s a very long list. YG is fully aware that this has been dropped in an unsuitable location and that it is affecting both businesses and residents in very negative ways. The solution to homelessness, addiction and their causes are neither simple nor short term. All of the changes spoken of in this article are to benefit the residents and clients of the shelter. I support them. I simply do not see or hear any attempt to address the very serious impact on the neighbourhood. In fact it seems to me that those of us who do not access the shelter are not considered. There is plenty of lip service. Just no real action.

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Yukoner79 on Oct 28, 2019 at 11:13 pm

This minister needs to give her head a shake. Correction. She needs to step down or be reassigned. Is she not aware that this ALL HAPPENED under her watch? She gonna blame the previous government some more? None of this sh*t happened under the previous government OR the Salvation Army. They run these shelters all over and this doesn’t happen because of RULES. Stop trying to tread lightly on people’s dignity when they will tread right back all over you and the community.
Addictions need to be addressed, but THE SAME RULES MUST APPLY TO THEM AS THE REST of the community. No drinking outside and turning a blind eye because “inter-generational trauma”. We all have s**t. Help them get past their s**t or give them back to the sally Anne. Now it’s going to continue to be a flop house, just now a “permanent” flop house for some. Pauline you are way over your head. Time to turn it over to someone whose emotions don’t rule and common sense does.

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drum on Oct 28, 2019 at 10:38 pm

Smoke and mirrors. The surrounding businesses deserve to be protected. Their revenue must be down to just about nothing. I drive past their everyday and would feel intimidated by the drunk crowds hanging around if I was walking. Fighting, pushing, swearing and generally giving passers by a hard time. These people have taken over our downtown. It is not acceptable. It is getting colder so less will be happening outdoors but it will be back to normal next spring. Minister Frost we will not forget over the winter. It is a disgrace to our City.

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JC on Oct 28, 2019 at 8:18 pm

Another million dollar bandaid. Can't wait for the BS report coming at the end of March. You can be sure it will be padded. That facility has to be moved out of 4th ave area. There are plenty of other better sites available. FN has at least one perfect spot - in the Industrial area. It's just sitting there vacant. Why can't something be put there. Can't blame us for being pessimistic. Nothing over the many years has worked.

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Guncache on Oct 28, 2019 at 5:55 pm

So how many hundreds of thousands (or millions ) of dollars are getting pumped into this? Most of these "clients" contribute nothing to society. I guess that's not true, they create employment for those who are looking after them.
Minister Frost, how about financing the cost of Shingrix, the shingles vaccine for seniors? Seniors have contributed all their life to society.

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Lost In the Yukon on Oct 28, 2019 at 5:29 pm

OMG ... a newsletter when most can't read? Really? “Guests”?! ... next thing complaints about room service. So when the Sally Ann ran this it cost X$s ... and none of these issues.

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Thomas Brewer on Oct 28, 2019 at 4:04 pm

Where's the contribution from the First Nation's? Be it financial or staffing, it's BS that this client base (over represented by FN citizens) is being resolved without FN support.

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What a waste. on Oct 28, 2019 at 3:38 pm

So in addition to the 10-15 Government workers that were already there they will be adding:
2 EMS workers
1 Counselor
2 more HSS Staff
1 Psychiatric Nurse
1 Community Liaison Officer

All to replace the 5-7 Salvation Army staff. Every time I think that the Liberals couldn't possibly mess this up any more they prove me wrong.

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