Snowmobiling proposals kick up frigid response
City council is mulling a set of recommendations regarding the region's antiquated snowmobiling bylaw.
City council is mulling a set of recommendations regarding the region's antiquated snowmobiling bylaw.
But some people in the community are unimpressed with the proposals and hoping council chooses to take any changes to the legislation in a different direction.
"It appears as though the recommendations are basically a knee-jerk reaction to complaints,” Mark Daniels, president of the Klondike Snow Association, told the Star today. "They don't take in things like lifestyle, like economic impact.”
The current snowmobile bylaw was originally drafted and passed in 1972. Council received recommendations for updating the bylaw this week.
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he suggestions include limiting their use in residential and environmentally sensitive areas, and requiring operators to take a safety course.
Daniels said he has only taken a "preliminary” look at the recommendations, but so far, he finds them "unfair,” and does not believe they will solve the issues prompting the complaints.
"They punish the law-abiding, and they're not going to solve the issue of someone screaming through the neighbourhood at two o'clock in the morning on a sled with a racing pipe on it,” he said. "Those people aren't going to follow these rules anyways, and those are the people citizens are complaining about.”
Under the proposed recommendations, snowmobile operators would not only need to be at least 16 years old and have a valid driver's licence, but take a safety course as well.
"That, to me, is onerous,” Daniels said. "It's unfair.”
Another recommendation is that snowmobiles not be allowed on residential roads. Daniels called the recommendation "absolutely unreasonable”, adding that the "out and away” trail system snowmobilers and administration have been working to construct would not be plausible if snowmobiles are not allowed on roads.
"For the proposed system to work, you would need a ton of money and infrastructure; you'd need staging areas,” he said.
And, for users like Daniels, who lives very close to a trailhead, the recommendation would be counter-intuitive to the environmental scope of some of the other proposals.
"To follow the regulations as proposed, instead of starting up my snowmobile in the driveway, warming it up and driving it two houses down to the trailer head, I would have to warm up my truck, drive across Porter Creek, get my trailer, bring it home, load it up, go down two houses, ride my snowmobile and then reverse the whole process.”
Daniels is also concerned with the fine system the recommendations propose.
"If you go behind your house and cause environmental damage with your truck, and I went in there and did the exact same damage with my snowmobile, I'm subject to a higher fine under these recommendations,” he said.
"That's just not right …. What they've done is they've created an unlevel playing field.”
If the recommendations are approved by council, they would "absolutely” have negative effects on the region's economy, Daniels said.
With four snowmobile dealerships in the region, plus gasoline and equipment sales, he said, snowmobiling is a multimillion-dollar-a-year industry here.
Instead of more rules, Daniels would like to see more education.
"We're advocates of education, we're not advocates of legislation,” he said. "So obviously, more legislation is not what we're looking for.”
The recommendations will not necessarily form new legislation.
City council is currently reviewing the proposals and will report back to administration regarding which recommendations it would like to pursue.
If necessary, a new bylaw will come forward under the city's bylaw process, which would include public consultation.
Daniels is hoping council will consider the interests of everyone in the community when reviewing the proposals.
"I'm hoping when council sees these recommendations they take a balanced approach and consider all aspects, not just some people who are complaining about some others riding snowmobiles.”
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Rethink it on Jul 28, 2011 at 7:05 am
Interesting proposals, perhaps the elderly could monitor the elderly, the addicts monitor the addicts, the francophones monitor/fund their own schools, homeless monitor the homeless.
I do however agree that like most laws and regulations they are in place for the non conformers or law breakers. ie; gun registry to help track guns used in crime. Stupid people kill - not guns, stupid people ride atv's/snowmachines late at night/trash greenbelts
Silly argument.
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J Quick on Jul 27, 2011 at 11:37 am
Harry is correct. Those that engage in this 'sport' should be the ones who fund enforcement.
For argument sake imagine there are 1,000 sleds in the city. If the annual cost of registering and licensing a (insured) machine is $75. Then there is $75K for enforcement/education which is pretty good considering these things only run 6 or 7 months of the year.
The framework is already in place to license and register the machines so no costs incurred there. Non compliance would be the same as under the Motor Vehicle Act.
The free ride is over.
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Randy Johnson on Jul 25, 2011 at 2:54 pm
After reading an article in the News last week regarding the enforcement of bicycle helmets how does CoW expect to enforce any new draconian laws for snowmobiling?
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Harry P on Jul 25, 2011 at 9:40 am
Daniels may want to be careful of the fumes he is inhaling when refueling. His holier-than-thou attitude is a real disservice to his cause.
In 30 years of driving a car/truck I've never had an accident. By his measure, I'm one of the 'good guys' who should wash my hands of pesky things like, the law, registration, licensing, insurance etc.
With a growing population, bigger and faster machines we see more and more people getting hurt and killed on snowmobiles (and other ORVs)
It doesn't make sense that someone can drive recklessly (or not) without liability insurance. Those days are gone. Daniels et al need to put on their big boy pants. Just like buying a car; plan to pay for maintenance, fuel, registration and insurance. Also drive within the laws.
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north of 60 on Jul 22, 2011 at 9:21 am
"They punish the law-abiding, and they're not going to solve the issue of someone screaming through the neighbourhood at two o'clock in the morning on a sled with a racing pipe on it,” he said. "Those people aren't going to follow these rules anyways, and those are the people citizens are complaining about.” ...Daniels said.
Then perhaps Mr. Daniels and his fellow 'law-abiding' snow machine users should 'self-police' those who give their hobby a bad name. I have no doubt that people in the snowmobile community know who the offenders are.
Snowmobilers can either self-police their hobby or accept more rules and regulations with more penalties for abuse. The choice is theirs.
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B Smith on Jul 22, 2011 at 8:37 am
Interesting how this news article only tells one side of the story. I'd like to hear from both sides of the story first. I also read the report that was put out for public viewing from that snowmobile task force they created, and it's interesting to note in the report that out of every other association involved in the task force, the Klondike Snowmobile Association is the only one who opposed every single change throughout the report. The rest of the task force seemed to favour some current updates to this old Bylaw. Sounds to me like the KSA doesn't want to change with the times.