Whitehorse Daily Star

Snowmachines to be bylaw's initial focus

The city will first look at snowmachine use on trails within municipal boundaries in considering new bylaws for snowmobiles, ATVs and other off-road vehicles.

By Stephanie Waddell on September 29, 2010

The city will first look at snowmachine use on trails within municipal boundaries in considering new bylaws for snowmobiles, ATVs and other off-road vehicles.

At a meeting of council and senior management held at noon Tuesday, Mayor Bev Buckway and other council members agreed the use of snowmachines and other off-road vehicles like bikes and ATVs should be kept under two separate bylaws, with the snowmobile bylaw being the first to get updated.

The move comes as the Yukon government is in the midst of consultations over provisions for off-road vehicles that would fall under the Motor Vehicles Act.

The issue was spurred by a call for legislation on ATV use earlier this year by the newly formed Trails Only Yukon Association (TOYA).

Another group – the Yukon Off-Road Riders Association – has challenged TOYA's proposal, with the government opting to move ahead with consultation.

At Tuesday's meeting, bylaw enforcement manager Dave Pruden explained an internal group of city employees has been exploring the issue. They now want to move on to involving interest groups – like the Klondike Snowmobile Association, vendors and others – in the

process by forming a task force.

While the city had looked at combining both the snowmachine and ATV bylaws into one that would govern all such motorized vehicles, Pruden suggested the bylaws should be kept separate to make the regulations more clear.

Working on the snowmachine bylaw first will also provide the city with a good sense on how to proceed with the ATV bylaw down the road.

Coun. Dave Austin said keeping the two bylaws separate is a "no-brainer”.

Councillors agreed with both proposals, giving Pruden the go-ahead to begin work on the task force for snowmachine use.

"I think we have a better chance of getting it right the first time,” Austin said of taking the matter to other organizations.

As Pruden explained in an interview later Tuesday afternoon, with the winter season approaching, this marks the right time of year to begin work on the snowmachine bylaw.

It certainly won't mean having new rules in place by the time riders take to the city trails on the machines. Rather, organizations and vendors will in the midst of the seasonal activity and, therefore, potentially more ready to work with the city on a new bylaw.

While the territory is working on its own regulations for both ATV and snowmachines, Pruden noted the city's bylaws also need more clarity.

"The city still has areas of concern,” he said, noting parts of the bylaws aren't clear to the general public.

Many, for example, don't seem to know that trails are considered highways under the regulations.

"That kind of stuff isn't clear,” he said, adding he's hopeful any update to territorial legislation will assist the city in enforcing its bylaws on motorized trail use in the city.

"There's lots of little issues.”

While Pruden hopes the city will have a new snowmobile bylaw in place by the end of the season, the first step in that process will be finding representatives to serve on the new committee.

He said the internal committee of city staff – from bylaw, parks and recreation, and planning – is set to meet again next week.

They will then begin looking at potential organizations and representatives who could serve on the newer external committee.

Before that group is formed, council will be formally asked to approve the members to the new committee.

In the meantime, councillors are also hoping to meet with the Yukon government's select committee looking at territorial ATV legislation early next month.

With the committee seeking input on the matter, city council asked to meet with members. City manager Dennis Shewfelt told council Tuesday of some dates proposed for early October, with councillors proposing Oct. 12 as a meeting date.

Shewfelt has yet to confirm the date with the committee.

Comments (5)

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ride and hike on Oct 4, 2010 at 2:39 pm

I have to agree with active rider. Alot of those trails were created by motor bikes, mountain bike, horse and ATV's or mining exploration trails. Living up here all my life I have seen trails that we built as kids for bike riding (that was our intent for the trail) used by other user groups and we never said that that was OUR trail. We had no problem sharing it with other users. Alot of the trails in Riverdale were made by dirt and mountain bikes. Now they aren't welcome there and are given dirty looks by other trail users.

Sure some bike trails have deep muddy ruts but so do some foot traffic only trails. One example that comes to mind quickly is the Chilkoot Trail. Should we ban all hikers from hiking due to the damage they do in an ecologically sensitive area?

People have to realize that most places are considered multi use and they have to share the area. if you really don't want to see a motor bike or atv go to the places they are not supposed to be at. If you do happen to run into a motor vehicle user on the trail then get a description ( or better yet a picture) and report them. They shouldn't be there. otherwise realize the world isn't yours alone and you might have to play with others.

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Virgil on Oct 4, 2010 at 2:23 pm

This is what happens when you bring a bunch of people into the Yukon that did not grow up here. They fly in, take government jobs, and then complain about all the things the "redneck" locals do.

I wish a government party took this stance in the next election. "All Yukon Government positions have to be filled by people born in the Yukon."

As long as the government is listening to these "city" kids that are trying to live out their "Into The Wild" experience in the shelter of a coffee shop, the Yukon is going to get overrun with a bunch of garbage legislation.

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DG on Oct 4, 2010 at 10:23 am

The basic issue is that a few people do not teach their children to respect others. I was at a birthday within the last year for one of my kids friends and and I was absolutely appalled at the lack of respect the child gave to the gift givers.

Simple teach the children to respect others and the environment. (note I know it's not just kids that do this but you have to start somewhere and it seems that most old farts refuse to listen/learn)

I had a dirt bike when I was younger and I never tore up trails. Kids go ripping through the area without really seeing the scenery. Just look at what happened last month with that kid and the barricade if he had been going a reasonable speed he would have seen it even if it was painted camouflage.

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Anthony on Oct 1, 2010 at 6:24 am

To active rider:

Those trails were there long before sledders and ATVs came along. In the form of game and foot trails.

Does your definition of 'grooming' include deep muddy ruts and a trail of empty beer cans.

Put your kids (and yourself) on a a leash so they don't tear up the bush and alpine.

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active rider on Sep 30, 2010 at 2:05 am

For years there have been Sledders and ATV riders grooming those trails that everyone is complaining about sharing. Why all of a sudden all the changes? Why did it go so far as let the riders become used to using the trails, why put a stop to it now? Can't we just learn to share these trails? Understandable that those trails restricted to non motorized vehicles should be patrolled and a rider fined for using them, but can you leave the trails that we riders have groomed and used for years alone please! And to those walkers, please learn to share the trails, keep your dogs on leashes so they don't chase us.

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