Photo by Whitehorse Star
Patti Balsillie and Mayor Dan Curtis
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Patti Balsillie and Mayor Dan Curtis
Mount Sima needs $610,000 by June 21 or the Great Northern Ski Society begins plans to shutting down the society and mothballing the facility, society spokeswoman Patti Balsillie said today.
Mount Sima needs $610,000 by June 21 or the Great Northern Ski Society begins plans to shutting down the society and mothballing the facility, society spokeswoman Patti Balsillie said today.
Balsillie said the society is scheduled to meet with city council Wednesday night to discuss the proposal laid out in the new business plan released Monday afternoon by the non-profit organization.
The plan indicates $324,000 is required to pay off debts from last winter and summer.
Another $268,000 is required to cover the anticipated shortfall in revenue this coming winter.
There's also $180,000 still owing on the new chair lift. The Yukon government has indicated it would be willing to pay that off if the city agrees to support the hill financially, she told the Star.
Balsillie said the organization has not yet been able to put together a long-term financial forecast.
The society, she emphasized, is an organization of volunteers.
Balsillie said again, as she said in March when she appeared before city council, this is not just an issue for the city.
It's also a matter involving the community, the territorial government, and maybe even the federal government, she said.
"But they are the catalyst,” she said of city council's role in the future of the Mount Sima. The facility includes a ski chalet modernized for the 2007 Canada Winter Games, the new chairlift, a new zip line and a new WildPlay adventure park.
Residents of Whitehorse, she said, need to recognize the importance of the facility, just as they recognize the importance of the Canada Games Centre and other facilities that add to the quality of life here.
If the city commits to supporting this as a municipal recreational facility, Balsillie said, it would open the door to discuss other funding streams.
If there's no confirmation of support for the $610,000 by June 21, the ski society would have no choice but begin the process of closing up shop and turning over Mount Sima to the city, she said.
Balsillie said everything attached to the ground at the ski hill is owned by the city.
The ski society, she pointed out, estimates it would cost the city about $193,000 annually to keep Sima mothballed, once security, heat, electricity and so forth are taken into account.
The business plan points out four task forces have been formed by the ski society to examine further operational costs, core funding, marketing, and means of engaging the community, should Mount Sima continue on.
The Yukon government has stated while it will cover the remaining debt for the new chairlift, it will not provide ongoing operational funding.
Mayor Dan Curtis said this morning he has not had the time to review the business plan in detail, as it was released late Monday while he was preparing for last night's council meeting.
He expects he'll know a lot more about where he stands following tomorrow night's meeting between council and the ski society.
But he has not changed his mind from a couple of months ago when he stated publicly if Mount Sima is looking for $400,000, or $800,000, the city just doesn't have it, he said.
"I wish we did,” he told the Star.
Curtis said he would not vote in favour a tax increase to support any non-profit organization, including Mount Sima.
The city has roads to look after, and it's negotiating a new contract with its firefighters and a new contract for the other city employees, Curtis pointed out.
The mayor said Mount Sima is a wonderful facility and a great asset for the community, but not at all costs.
He also acknowledged, however, that he is one of seven votes.
Coun. Betty Irwin said this morning she too is torn, and it will be a very difficult decision.
Irwin was one of two members of council who was around in 2011 when the city approved a $1.6-million grant for Mount Sima to buy a new chairlift, using money which had originally been budgeted for the Black Street improvement project.
The money was freed up with the arrival of federal funding for Black Street under the Building Canada Fund.
Mount Sima was coming off a winter of nothing but mechanical problems and safety concerns with the old chairlift.
It approached council for assistance. Six of seven council members agreed to redirect the Black Street budget to Mount Sima for a new lift.
Irwin was the only one opposing vote. She said at the time there were greater needs in the community than providing for a recreational facility used mostly by the middle and upper classes, who can afford to ski and snowboard.
Non-profit organizations, she said back then, had to learn to live within their means.
Irwin said this morning her objection two years ago was also pushed by the discomfort of using money that was otherwise designated for municipal infrastructure improvements.
The city also approved a $1.3-million contribution in 2012 to help purchase the new zipline and Wildplay Adventure park. The goal was to turn Mount Sima into a year-round recreational facility with a year-round revenue stream.
Back then, she said, she believed that once the new chairlift was in place, and once the city provided an additional $1.3 million to the new zipline and adventure park, Mount Sima would be able to stand on its own.
Irwin said she believes other councillors were of the same mind.
She said she doesn't want to see the facility close down because of its importance to the community. She expects she'll have a better idea of where she stands now following Wednesday's meeting with the society.
Perhaps, she suggested, if the city is to provide core funding, it should look at taking over the facility and operating it as a city-owned hill, much like it operates the Canada Games Centre, which is subsidized by taxpayers.
A one per cent tax increase for Whitehorse taxpayers amounts to about $250,000.
Earlier this year, council approved a 3.83 per cent tax hike for 2013.
Since 2010, according to city hall, the city has provided Mount Sima with $3.5 million in funding:
• 2010 – $200,000 for Sima operations;
• 2011 – $400,000 for Sima operations;
• $1.6 million toward the new $3-million chairlift; and
• $1.3 million toward the new zipline and adventure park.
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Jackie Ward on Jun 13, 2013 at 4:30 am
Here's what I hope happens. I hope the city does give the hill the money they are asking for. Why? Because you people really don't care. A few comments here and there on the internets stating "I don't want my taxes going up". Umm, who are you kidding? Gas just went up 25% in less than 2 weeks for no reason at all. NOT ONE PEEP from any of you. Power bills being going up for years for no reason, NOT ONE PEEP from you. Food becoming so expensive that its hard for a lot of people to buy food, again, NOT ONE PEEP from you. So why is this different? Why the objection? Why now? Please City Hall, give them the money. Everyone is enjoying paying more and more for everything with nothing to show for it. So this is a no brainier. Big tax increase 2013. Whoaaaa haaaaa, whooaaa haaaa.
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Yukon Skier on Jun 13, 2013 at 3:39 am
Again and again. It is always the same problem with Sima. The board and the management do not realize and do not want to admit they were wrong and they have made a lot of mistakes.
If they will have some money again, they will continue to do the same mistakes and they will say again that they saved Sima. Stop it now, being a volunteer cannot exempt you to be responsible and it is not an excuse of being incompetent....the money has been wasted for so long...it has to stop now. I am a skier, I love this place but I do not want the city put more money in this disaster because with the same board and the same management it is going to be the same result.
Mt Sima is not Whistler, we are not in an area accessible for million of potential customers how could you believe the Zipline and monkido could be self sufficient ??? you do not need to be a tourism expert to realise that. What a waste of money.
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Krysta Meekins on Jun 12, 2013 at 4:11 pm
I have to add my voice as someone who does not want to spend any more tax dollars on this facility. It is not accessible or affordable for most Yukon families. If private business could take over Sima and make it profitable, that would be excellent, but otherwise... let's keep property taxes as low as possible and invest City revenue in something more universally beneficial.
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We all know the outcome on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:22 am
The City is going to cave into "the local business" that has the most to gain in all of this ... City will take it over, "local business" will step up and say "We'll run it for you if you lease it to us for $1.00 a year" and there you have it. The deal is done. How many millions of taxpayer dollars gone so a private business can profit once again, off of Yukon taxpayers.
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not my taxes! on Jun 12, 2013 at 7:50 am
The ski hill has got to be joking. What kind of a non-profit goes to the city expecting them to bail them out? Just as "you've got to be kidding" said; The Humane Society has been in the papers for months now, talking about how they are deep in the hole and do you see them looking for a hand out? NO. They have fundraised and fundraised some more, they thought outside the box and got themselves out of the hole using a plethora of avenues available to non-profits to help them raise money (and did all of those things before getting the good standing back from the registrar - BTW it is EXTREMELY difficult to fundraise without your good standing) AND This shelter is responsible for LIVING ANIMALS everyday and they were cared for every day throughout the tough times!!
How exactly does this ski hill think that they even remotely deserve any more of the city's money than the Shelter or any other non-profit? This board needs to go and get some people in there who know how to recruit volunteers willing to work to fundraise for the Society. Get a new board, get a "how to run a non-profit for dummies" and GET TO WORK. Seriously, if this City gives them a single cent, I wouldn't doubt if the door it opens, is the one for the other 800+ non-profits in this city to approach city council for a hand out! How could they say no?
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barbara Scheck on Jun 12, 2013 at 7:41 am
I do not want my tax dollars going towards this facitility any longer.
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Josey Wales on Jun 12, 2013 at 7:30 am
June is I think, correct. CoW nobles will roll over like a bunch of puppies, breaking all the piggy banks of the peasants, tripping over each other to get the pen...to write yet another cheque with OUR money.
If the assets are to be raffled off at 5-10% of their value, I say CUT it all up and salvage costs via steel recyclers outside. Then nobody salivating at the chance to buy it here (as they were "probably" part of the issue)can rape us twice for their elitist agendas.
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Bella Toscana on Jun 12, 2013 at 6:38 am
Not to take anything away from ski enthusiasts...but I find it interesting that the ski society wants $610k from the city to stay operational...whereas the humane society animal shelter has to nickel and dime it, and go through scourges to get a few bucks from the city.
Saving animal's lives and promoting a more humane community should have priority here...
Instead of $610k for ski hills, and less than $50k from the city for the Mae Bachur shelter...it should be the other way around.
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DG on Jun 12, 2013 at 5:06 am
OMG. This will never end by the sounds of it and the amount NEEDED before the doors are closed is growing each time they ask for money! If all of the GNSS managers were competent in their jobs they would of had the place running without all of these bailouts. If the city is stupid enough to give them the money they may as well run the place like a business and not as a playground for the few that can afford to go to the hill on a regular basis. I agree that this is a fiasco and needs to be dealt with once and for all. Next year they will want millions and will blackmail city hall again.
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Get a Grip on Jun 11, 2013 at 5:39 pm
You have got to be kidding me! Maybe these "Volunteers" (Oh and so what- everyone volunteers- you aren't special) should elect a new accountant and a new spokesperson with some intelligence. Pretty simple if you don't have the money- don't spent it. 10% of the elite use the hill, I never have even gone up there and I am not in favour of having my taxes go up to support this.I want my taxes to go towards improving the city not a ski hill. People can barely make ends meet as it is and many folks are living below the poverty line. Not only the lack of social and affordable housing but yesterday I found out that our Seniors and differently abled citizens cannot get rides to their medical appointments or to buy food because of the limitations of the HandiBus schedule. They also cannot afford a taxi. We don't have enough beds for the homeless or programming for addictions. Shame on you guys for wanting this money to squander yet again when it could be redirected to those really in need.
If you want the hill and need money for it, do what the country clubs do- charge a skookum membership fee and let those that use it pay for it. The Winter Club in Calgary charges 30,000.00 per annum for membership. You could charge way less than that and maintain a profit. I also do not appreciate the hissy fit or blackmail- give us $610,000 by next Friday or else. Guess what? Who cares! Very immature. The fact that officials are wasting time to try to come up with a solution to help you run the not for profit is also amazing to me. I guess all of the not for profits can now approach the city and other government departments to get assistance with the management and money in core funding to keep them going. What a novel idea. Any idea how many not for profits are in Whitehorse? I would be extremely disappointed in my elected officials at the City if they entertained this as more important than emergency services, seniors, differently abled folks, the homeless and those suffering from addictions. Imagine what this boost of dollars can achieve towards those initiatives. Not to mention giving it to the Food Bank so they have food to pass out more frequently to starving families.
You want the ski hill- pay a hefty membership fee. Poor people are not using the hill, I assure you.
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jack on Jun 11, 2013 at 2:55 pm
get back to the basics that supported the hill since early days.
stabilize the ski-ing part of the business and forget about the zipline adventure part, is it not yet obvious?
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north_of_60 on Jun 11, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Property taxes are due in a few weeks.
It's my yearly reminder that I don't want my tax dollars squandered on special interest groups so elites can enjoy their hobby at our expense.
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jeff roe on Jun 11, 2013 at 11:43 am
So can they account for all their finances...that's a lot of money...You'd think they should be able to raise money or get grants..etc
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Yukon Brat on Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 am
Blackmail is a very poor method of negotiation with the City (and ultimately the taxpayers). You've just lost a lot of points.
When you want money you'd sure as hell better have a financial plan and forecast before you walk in the door.
Piss poor preparation and piss poor attitude to asking for public money!
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andrew james on Jun 11, 2013 at 10:20 am
I think there is better uses for our tax dollars than paying for over privileged rich kids to ski and snowboard
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Just Say'in on Jun 11, 2013 at 9:57 am
Are you kidding me, the number just never quits growing. I would like to see what the summer time revenues look like. Zero I bet. These guys have no idea how to run a business or maintain the equipment and keep it running. They have spent all this money with no idea how they will repay it. Well in the real world here is how it works....If you don't have it you don't spend it. Simple. Get all the conflicted people of the Board and have it run by people that understand how a business operates, no government workers.
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volunteers on Jun 11, 2013 at 9:48 am
How about the group of supporters volunteer some time. Volunteer to set up hill, run chairs, volunteer ski patrol, volunteer ticket agents, volunteer board, volunteer groomers. Pay volunteers with ski passes-no money changes hands
Lease out kitchen, lease out bar
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Clive Wailin on Jun 11, 2013 at 9:26 am
Haven't they been drawing out this business plan for the last few months and now they need money in 4 days or it's over? This Board is blackmailing City Council. City should take it over. After all the talking and the meeting, it seems they're hoping to simply walk away with the cash while we are busy with summer activites. Just say NO!
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June Jackson on Jun 11, 2013 at 9:19 am
Despite the objections of taxpayers to pouring money down the Sima drain, I have a feeling that this council is going to roll over on it and give Great Northern Ski Society board an open invitation to loot the city coffers..in other words. I think they will fork out the money and continue to fork it out until we vote every last one of them out of office..
Also Mr. Curtis, any dreams you ever had of running for the Liberal seat in the Federal election..I hope will be down the chute..if you'll roll over on this issue.. you are sure to roll over on the federal issues.
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Thomus on Jun 11, 2013 at 8:34 am
Cost me well over 100 bucks to rent and ride with my kid up and down the schupid bunny hill for a 1/2 day. As a single, sole-support parent, it chokes me to know this is a subsidized, so-called "non-profit" venture that bites me on both sides, not only in ticket sales but in taxes. Comparable to CGC? Really? Perhaps if you made it accessible, you might have more support. As it is, I can afford to go maybe once every two years or so.
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You got to be kidding on Jun 11, 2013 at 8:33 am
It is unconscionable that they (The Board) have put the Society in this position ... how different is this than what happened at the Humane Society where the Board was accused of being irresponsible in their decision making. Close the Hill ... the City can not provide any money to this failed effort. Anyway, there is probably at least one private-local business that is waiting to buy the assets at fire sale prices and turn a profit next year.
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Robert on Jun 11, 2013 at 8:07 am
Give me a break $3.5 million over the past 3 years and now they want $610,000 by the end of next week. I certainly don't want my taxes going up to support a facility that less than 10% of the population use.
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Josey Wales on Jun 11, 2013 at 7:50 am
Awwwwwe, the hill "may" close?
Oh well, it was a nice ride whilst it lasted for those whom had drawn a salary.
Waaaay over due the "closing" of this money pit for the elite!
Be certain to do reclamation, restoring the hill back to nature, not in the hands of special interests with their agenda.
All equipment sold to non conflict of interest group, as I'm convinced this tactic is very intentional...freeing up gear & land to be bought up at 10% of its value.
Close it...and close it asap, sick of this topic of trough feeders of public money!
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No More Funding on Jun 11, 2013 at 7:23 am
To city councillors and mayor; Just Say No!