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Session proved remarkable for its nasty undertones

A near record-setting session of the Yukon Legislative Assembly is in the books.

By Tim Giilck on December 24, 2020

A near record-setting session of the Yukon Legislative Assembly is in the books.

The 45-day sitting was the longest sitting in more than 25 years, and the second-longest continuous sitting in the assembly’s history, according to a government release.

In total, MLAs sat for 54 days in 2020, the fourth-highest number of sitting days of all provinces and territories this year. That happened even after the spring session broke early last March due to the pandemic.

The leaders of all three parties weighed in with their end-of-year comments following question period Tuesday, and both Premier Sandy Silver and Yukon Party Leader Currie Dixon participated in separate interviews with the Star.

Silver stressed that while it was an unusual year to be in government with the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic sending ripple effects everywhere, it was a strikingly productive one for legislation and government initiatives.

He talked up several new pieces of legislation that focus on investing in economic and social supports for Yukoners impacted by COVID-19, protecting and providing support to Yukoners, strengthening the territory’s waste reduction efforts, and improving its democratic processes.

He pointed to the Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Protection Act which bans conversion therapy in the Yukon, supporting the government’s commitment to inclusion for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, Two-Spirit plus Yukoners (LGBTQ2S+) as examples of actions he was particularly proud of.

One thing the session was somewhat remarkable for was its underlying nastiness and partisanship, although Silver said he didn’t see it that way despite comments he made during a scrum with local media following question period Tuesday.

At that time, Silver said, “This historically long sitting has really highlighted the priorities of the opposition parties. For months, we heard about the need to call back the assembly.

“And when we came back, the Yukon Party asked questions about bats (in the Ross River school) for days.

“We asked if they supported the state of emergency and it took them five weeks to make up their minds. In the meantime, we heard them supporting the lawsuit against the border restrictions we put in place to protect Yukoners,” the premier added.

“We heard them advocate for opening the bubble to Alberta, where cases have been growing at alarming rates. We heard them pushing to ignore the recommendations from Dr. (Brendan) Hanley to get all of our kids back in school.

“We also heard them wilfully spread misinformation for 45 days. Dr. Hanley appeared as a witness and the Yukon Party health critic (Patti McLeod) did not even ask questions. We did not hear a single question about vaccines after we released our plan.”

On Wednesday morning, Silver said he didn’t see an over-abundance of partisanship as a problem, despite those comments.

He attributed most of the nastiness in the legislature to the Yukon Party, saying the government had to defend itself over unrelenting attacks.

Silver said his priority in the face of such hostility was to talk about what the government had done, what it planned to do, and how it compared to actions taken by the previous government. That government, of course, was a Yukon Party regime.

He boasted this year’s legislative session was a tribute to having a good team.

“We did a lot, and got a lot accomplished. It wasn’t just all COVID. We worked extremely hard, and some of it was very innovative.”

COVID, of course, was the single dominant issue of the year for the government and the assembly. With the spring session being cut short by the pandemic, the slack had to be made up in a busier-than-usual fall sitting.

“As we continue to navigate through the COVID-19 pandemic, our government remains focused on protecting Yukoners and supporting them through these challenging times,” Silver said.

“This fall, we passed budget measures focused on social and economic supports and health care services for Yukoners in response to COVID-19.

“We are also pleased to pass new laws introducing paid leave for those experiencing domestic violence, strengthening Yukon’s waste reduction efforts, supporting and protecting LGBTQ2S+ Yukoners, and introducing fixed election dates for territorial elections. Our government continues to deliver on commitments that improve the lives of Yukoners.”

One thing the Liberals didn’t get to were the changes to child care they proposed during the summer. Silver said the commitment by the government to make those changes remained firm, and it was never necessarily the plan to have the reforms in place this fall.

Silver was also annoyed over the continuing allegations that his government was lacking in its ability to consult with the public on important issues.

“We can do better, but that’s not factually correct,” he insisted. “We’ve heard there’s a lot of engagement fatigue.”

He also refused all questions as to when the mandatory election for 2021 might be called.

“I’m not going there,” he said. “I’m not in that head space right now. I’m just looking forward to heading home to Dawson for a break.”

Dixon was also put on the hot seat over the tense and angry atmosphere in the assembly.

In the same vein as Silver, he put the blame for the lack of cordiality on the Liberals.

When he was first elected as leader last May, Dixon said there were elements of the party he wished to change. Chief among them was a desire to make it less oppositional and establish a friendlier, more approachable image.

Even though he doesn’t have a seat in the legislature, Dixon thought he had made some strides toward accomplishing that goal.

“There have always been some areas we needed to improve on,” he said. “A couple of the things we wanted to do was focus more on mental health and child care.”

As the father of a young family, child care is definitely something he knows well.

He he wanted the party members in the assembly to spend less time on acting like attack dogs, and more on promoting viable alternatives to government policies.

Dixon said some strides have been made toward achieving that.

“We didn’t want to just attack,” he said. “We’ve committed to taking a more positive role. That’s what the government has done, though. They’ve just attacked us.”

One thing that has particularly frustrated him from his vantage point on the outside looking in has been the inability or unwillingness – perhaps both – of the Liberal cabinet ministers to provide definitive answers to questions. Even simple yes or no questions are typically stonewalled, he said.

He thanked his team for the work they’ve done while he’s been unable to join them in the assembly.

“My members have done a great job,” he said.

It’s taken a lot of the strain off of him to have such a wealth of experience and talent to work with, he added.

He’s busy with the planning work on establishing a new policy platform for the party in anticipation of the 2021 election, which could come as soon as the spring.

Nothing is certain on that front, he said, but “it doesn’t change what I need to do as a leader.”

NDP Leader Kate White picked her words carefully, but it was clear she was frustrated about the atmosphere in the legislature.

“In times like these, you see people’s true colours,” she said. “Our goal was to try to lift people up.”

She and fellow MLA Liz Hanson tried to remain above the partisan fray, White said, but it was certainly difficult to ignore the sour relationship between the Liberals and the Yukon Party.

Silver highlighted a number of legislative items he thought were noteworthy, as did a media release from the government.

  1. Amendments to the Employment Standards Act will provide access to paid and unpaid leave for victims of domestic or sexualized violence in Yukon.

The new leave provisions also extend to employees if their child, a person they care for, or close friend is a victim of domestic or sexualized violence.

  1. Amendments to the Elections Act established fixed dates for territorial elections. Territorial elections will occur on the first Monday in November every four years, starting on Nov. 3, 2025.

  2. The Second Appropriation Act 2020-21 includes an increase of $95.9 million in operations and maintenance (O&M) gross spending, with an offsetting increase of $58 million in O&M recoveries.

The additional spending provides economic and social supports as well as expanded health services for Yukoners in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. It also includes funding to begin implementing the Putting People First plan for health and social care.

  1. A motion to establish an all-party committee to review the Yukon’s Civil Emergency Measures Act (CEMA) passed during the fall sitting. The committee, which includes a representative from each of the three parties, will consider and identify options for modernizing CEMA, as well as make recommendations on possible amendments to the act.

The committee will submit a report to the house on its findings and recommendations by Aug. 31, 2021.

Comments (27)

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Woodcutter on Dec 31, 2020 at 4:50 pm

Wilf - you spoof some pretty big numbers to support a view of doom and gloom. Nothing in my expense items increased 18% cause of TBD carbon tax, in fact the pump prices of fuel are cheaper this year then last year.

I got a whopping 22% raise in my income this year, so contrary to established conservative thinking a liberal approach to work will actually create dividends.
You grip on the challenges of the real world are not reflective of my experience. A common question I ask is "are you better off now then last year"? When the response is yes, then I support the elected leadership.

To anyone complaining about CPP and OAS amounts, that's too bad you have to suffer now you probably wish you had invested some of the income you made instead of pissing it away enjoying your youth.

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Juniper Jackson on Dec 30, 2020 at 9:15 pm

I do not resent government worker 'bee's.. I resent the queen's.. we have a Supervisor, a Manager, a ADM, a DM for every 2 'bee's'.. This government is so top heavy it's a wonder it hasn't fallen right over. If it weren't for the 'worker bee's', there wouldn't be a store open in Whitehorse. It's them that are spending their bucks here while the "queens" out in Mexico, Jamaica, Cancun.. and Amazon knows them all by first name. No money spent in Whitehorse because..it's SO much more expensive than Ontario. uh huh.

Someone mentioned pensions.. CPP is an earned benefit. If you paid into it, the government is obligated to give you a CPP pension. (However, the governments, ALL of them, screw us over by capping the percentage at such a small amount, you'd be hard put to buy bread and milk on it.) OAS is a GIFT. No one pays into OAS, it's capped, but clawed back if you earn x amount of dollars. The government could stop OAS at any time. The income supplement is attached to the OAS and based on income testing. If you suddenly came into money/job you would lose the OAS to claw backs and the GIS (Guaranteed Income Supplement) entirely. I know government people who live in beautiful houses, I live in a almost derelict dwelling..at the end of the month we both have the same thing..nothing. We all live according to our means.

Frankly? The front line "bee's' should have a great raise, just for being the ones that have to put up with everyone's s**t.

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dianesullivan on Dec 30, 2020 at 3:19 pm

@TheHammer,
Right on, that's just old Josie Wales wailing again!

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Anie on Dec 30, 2020 at 12:47 pm

Patty Eyre, please allow me to correct a common misconception. The CPP and Old Age Security are self funded. The money people paid in over the years was invested, the returns on investment cover the payouts, and as recently as 2014 (I think, but date could be wrong) an audit confirmed that the funds are sound, including for known projections. So no, "worker bees" are not giving him anything. I don't know anything about the supplement, but perhaps someone else will speak to that.

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TH on Dec 30, 2020 at 12:13 pm

@JC
Stop spreading misinformation.
YEU members got 1.75% increase last year. Have a read: https://www.yeu.ca/yukon_government_employees_y010

In fact 1.75% in each of the last 3 years, FAR below cost of living increases. You think the grass is greener on this side of the fence but it isn't. The private sector for skilled workers and managers make a lot more hay than civil servants and have better benefits.

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Rolf on Dec 30, 2020 at 6:09 am

The 'Yukon Party' has been vexatious since it's inception and remains so.

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TheHammer on Dec 29, 2020 at 6:39 pm

Josey Wales @ Why engage; I like to engage the subversive and destructive Americanization of Canadian politics and social life. '14th century', you mean nothing has happened in the 500 years since Europeans came here, that's a joke right? Try telling it to First Nations. Actually it's a hint that you are an anti monarchist, meaning anti Canadian social and political culture. If the comment page is your only platform for your revolutionary manifesto alternative to current politics, it's still poisonous, consistently negative, jingoistic jargon, and every thumbs up is a like minded person who thinks the same way, or allows you to think for them, either way it's group think.

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Oya on Dec 29, 2020 at 12:13 pm

@ JC I don't think you understand what the banning of conversion therapy means. Conversion therapy is therapy (designed by straight people) to encourage gay people to change their sexual orientation so as to adopt heterosexuality instead of homosexuality. Perhaps I'm naive, but I've never heard of a gay person trying to counsel someone to change their sexual orientation, i.e. to deny their "straightness" in order to become gay.
Banning conversion therapy does NOT protect gays from straight people in the sense you think nor does it allow gay people to discriminate somehow (not sure what you mean by that) against straight people; it protects gays from being forced to deny their own personal sexuality in favour of some straight person's "idea" of acceptable sexuality. It protects them from having to undergo therapy designed by opinionated, close-minded, straight people who are trying to force their views of sexuality down the gay person's throat. It allows gay people to be gay and to remain gay. There is no reciprocal protection needed for straight people.

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Patti Eyre on Dec 29, 2020 at 12:06 pm

@JC be thankful for what you’re getting! Us worker bees are paying for that and you’re complaining about it? That makes me feel very comflicted, like you’re ungrateful!

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Brenda on Dec 29, 2020 at 6:32 am

The current government loves to commend itself on a job week done. I would like to remind people that this government is spending thousands of tax payer money on covering up wrong doing. They are constantly in court fighting the Privacy Commissioner. An Ombudsman trying to protect people’s rights and require public accountability. This issue gets swept aside while COVID 19 dominates the conversation.
The Deputy Minister and Minister of HSS ignored letters requesting information and now she is taking them to court. There is no accountability these Liberals spend money to prevent accountability. It is sickening we are all sheep being herded by this corrupt government. The public should decide what and where money should be spent - it’s public money and we are spending thousands protecting this corruption.

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JC on Dec 28, 2020 at 4:39 pm

Wilf Carter: Yes, the government workers got a 7% raise in the last year. Look what I as a senior got: I got a $12.97 raise in my CPP this year. That comes to .018%. I actually got 3 dollars less in my OAS and Supplement this year. So, my total pension decreased. In the meantime, the food prices have increased about 25 - 30 percent. So, that's what we seniors have to look forward to with the mad spending Libs.
Today, I found out JT increased the national debt from about 650 billion to 1.4 billion since he became PM. The national deficit is now at least 400 billion dollars. How in the world does the Millennial and Generation Xers think they are going to pay it off? Normal wage taxes are now between 25 and 30%. In ten years, it will be 40 - 45%. Yukon's territorial debt has risen so much, it is only conceivable that soon, the government - whichever is in will have to implement a territorial tax just to pay some of the interest. So, young folks, keep voting Liberal and NDP. These socialists will drain you of everything you have. Don't take my word for it. Just keep your eyes open.

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JC on Dec 28, 2020 at 3:59 pm

Stephen. I'm not pretending, I'm very serious about this. If the gays are going to be given protection from the straights, then it has to be both ways. Regardless of how straights have acted in the past toward the gays, doesn't mean that it's now the gays turn to discriminate. And I know better about these things and I don't have to be ashamed of myself. I am very proud of my gender and opinions. I've had 80 years of experience to form them.

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Josey Wales on Dec 28, 2020 at 2:45 pm

TheHammer...but yet you engage...why?
The 19th century ya say? Well that would be "advancement" here as we are stuck in some Disney version of the 14th, most certainly NOT the 21st.
have a good SJW day.

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Groucho d'North on Dec 28, 2020 at 10:42 am

@Wilf,
Nice synopsis but you forgot to include the on-going saga of rising electrical costs for we consumers. It's very similar to what happened in Ontario in the 2000s. It appears that political leadership has lost touch with mainstream Canadians as they layer yet another tax on us.
Because governments cannot live within their means, taxpayers must be evermore dilligent in managing our expenses. If we do manage to squirrel some money away in savings, increasing government fees and licence costs will erode that quickly. It would be nice to go to the bank and borrow more money and know I will never have to pay it back - others will be responsible to do that.

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TheHammer on Dec 27, 2020 at 10:05 pm

Josey Wales@ 'Group Think', you should know all about that, you are a master of the art. Posing as the Lone Ranger your opinions are on the same page as wannabe confederate outlaws, stuck in a splintered perception of 19th century political bogeys. Your opinions are common place, pedestrian, unimaginative, and shared by thousands of other stuck in the mud losers.

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Nathan Living on Dec 27, 2020 at 3:55 pm

Please Whitehorse residents run for council if you have the skill and interest.
The Territorial and Federal elections will work themselves out.

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Wilf Carter on Dec 26, 2020 at 9:34 pm

Happy News Residents of Whitehorse because here's what coming in 2021.

Federal Territorial and Municipal elections.
Hear the result performance of existing government over the last five years:
We have had a 18% increase in the cost of living because of carbon tax.
Did anyone get a raise of 18%?
Yukon Government employees got 7% over that period of time.
Then you have housing costs going up by 11% this year because of shortage of housing.
Rents in Whitehorse that are out of reach for 40% of our population.
Then you have climate change plan that will do little to reduce carbon in our atmosphere because it is created by trucking. How are they going to lower carbon from Trucking?
In simple terms is this what you expect from all three levels of our governments over the next 4 years.

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Oya on Dec 26, 2020 at 7:52 pm

@ Sheepchaser - You are so right about so many things in your post.
It would be so refreshing to have a clean slate of wannabe politicians with new ideas, new ways of doing things, foresight, and the best interests of ALL Yukoners in the forefront of their minds and work and that come to the table without any ties to the old club.
I also agree with your comments about the breach of trust/fraud. Public servants, on getting hired, should have to take a short course on what constitutes fraud/breach of trust when you are a government worker. Many do not understand the concept or the criminality of some of their actions.

@ Roy - I agree with your comments, too. Question Period seems to be a game of "Who can waste the most time not answering so when the hard questions come, we'll be out of time." SO much more could be accomplished!

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TMYK on Dec 26, 2020 at 6:05 pm

So Silvers’ biggest accomplishment is banning something that the NDP put forward and doesn’t even happen in the Yukon? It would be comical if it wasn’t wasted tax dollars.

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Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2020 at 4:52 pm

So...wadda ya know, another day another progressive oozing of virtue because I am so important Stephen comment/scold.
what can you expect from a lispy lady man supporter I suppose?
The Pitbull of progressive enforcement...The Minister of Group Think is in the house! Eh...mirror image of your typical participation I bloviate Min. GT

Geez as a lispy lady boy/team SS sycophant, "and stop using your fear to stoke fear in other people," That Mr Virtue is purdy rich, fear is the lubricity of near everything ideologically speaking in team red.

JC...please carry on, your dues are paid...trying to be logical with those that lack it is pointless. It's his way or no way, with the usual scold as to why person X is (insert progressive deflect disparage here) carrying the pitchfork of virtue all the while.
...in 3..2..1..go, for example

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Wilf Carter on Dec 26, 2020 at 3:59 pm

Here's what Yukoners want - maybe not in this order :
Good health care.
Over $150 million into housing all across the Yukon. Just look at the buildings around Yukon for seniors alone now we need 60 units plus another 220 units for public housing.
Need over 1800 units of different types in Yukon.
Snow removal in Whitehorse.
There is no economic development planning and government wants to close out mining in Dawson.
Government is not creating the situation for economic development so our kids can move back to Yukon and start a business.
No venture capital available in Yukon to start or expand a business.
Our Yukon money from Ottawa is going to be frozen or reduced because of federal spending.
Canadians are in social cultural trouble.

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Adam Smith on Dec 26, 2020 at 3:34 pm

Sorry Currie but after you gave yourself a big payout when leaving office last time, you lost me. Show some integrity and pay it back since you are obviously not done in politics. You aren't even close to 40 years old and you've already had a turn at the trough kid.

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Sheepchaser on Dec 26, 2020 at 11:15 am

a) The issues were of a more immediate and serious nature this session, so one would expect a rise in stress and frustration. This occurs naturally in humans and can be seen in the behaviour of elected and unelected officials worldwide. By now though we are all used to this newspaper colouring in editorial opinion rather than focusing on investigative reporting of any kind.

b) Liberals have prioritized social engineering mostly due to inability or unwillingness to tackle the tough problems in this jurisdiction/the entire country. For a political team that loves to accuse others of being tone-deaf, I have to say the Yukon liberals seem to be totally out to lunch on the tax-payer dollar by comparison even to other liberals. It’s maddening how little gets done and how many meetings you have to sit through to get that little done. Stop hiring people that enjoy meetings. My private companies all have a 45min maximum meeting rule as of last year. If you can’t decide, then you either didn’t do the reading and due diligence before the meeting or you should not be in a decision making position.

c) One year into a pandemic which will last multiple years (globally) regardless of vaccines and still no comprehensive shift of education and other government services to online delivery. Not even a real attempt at such. Is there even a plan? While the Yukon Party argues to get kids back into school as if a global pandemic isn’t happening? Seriously?

d) Liberals did not use emergency legislation in the proper manner to break down barriers and improve access to the digital economy which is a big part of the future, like it or not. An opportunity to break the NWtel’s (Bell Canada in disguise) monopoly on critical communication infrastructure wasted. Worse still, they are doubling down on this monopoly by funding further fibre-optic infrastructure without requiring that it be made available to customers. Or that it be made future-proof by running double the cable we need for our current population, so we’ll be on the hook for millions again very shortly.

e) The Yukon Party has designated themselves the Citizens Against Virtually Everything party and are welcome to drag their neo-Luddite, anti-science, reading-is-for-nerds policies back into the caves they dragged their knuckles out of. The new leader has zero ability to champion innovative policy, but is great at conservative dog-whistles.

f) Not a single moment devoted to analysis of how the impending Canadian debt bubble is going to affect travel budgets and other discretionary spending that will hurt the Yukon’s traditional industries.

Overall, I give Yukon governance a D+. Bare minimum reactionary measures achieved. Minor social engineering which will affect less than 10% of the Yukon population, but that population is vulnerable so it was a positive and necessary step. However, complete failure to innovate or plan for the new normal. That failure will hurt Yukoners and entrench generational dependency on government. Perhaps that’s the idea? Hard to tell.

Youth in public school today aren’t even ready for qualification as a construction foreman by graduation. They can barely finish a sentence without sounding like the Trailer Park Boys. The digital economy will make these youth millions or make them slaves. There will be very little middle ground. Yukon leadership has its head very deep in the sand. That applies to several levels and types of government in this jurisdiction that are retaining unqualified and unmotivated polyps, hiring the same consultants over and over, keeping their relationships friendly at the cost of no accountability, and generally promoting an autocratic attitude towards those who dare question policy or identify issues of negligence and criminal misconduct.

*Criminal misconduct is a big allegation to make, but it occurs in the everyday conversations of government employees in the Yukon. Example: ‘We haven’t used our entire helicopter budget this year and all our projects are complete.’ ‘Darn, let’s find something to do with that otherwise we won’t have as much helicopter time next year’. Not sure if you want to apply the Breach of Trust or Fraud section of the criminal code to that, but you could.

It’s clear that those who want to be politicians, just shouldn’t. The current batch know how to take, to tax and to restrict, but they can’t seem to create. We need a complete overhaul or we are going to watch this territory devolve into a more sad and unequal place.

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Steven on Dec 26, 2020 at 10:50 am

@JC
"As a man approaching 80, I was - as many other men and women during their young years, approached by members of the "gay" community who attempted to counsel me to become a participant in their sexual orientation."
...so you got hit on and didn't like it. Just say you aren't interested and move on, it's pretty simple; nothing nefarious is happening.

NO, the law isn't there to protect you from being hit on. It's to prevent straight people from forcing gay people to act straight, just because those straight people feel uncomfortable. But conversion therapy or not, this still happens all the time, and is expected of gay people. A man and a woman hold hands, hug and kiss on Main Street and there's no problem; no one even notices. Two guys (or two women) do it, and they will likely be mocked, insulted, threatened, or even attacked.

Stop pretending you are inconvenienced by the new laws, and stop using your fear to stoke fear in other people, for the purpose of continuing to deny the gay community the same rights you have every single minute you draw breath. At your advanced age, you should know better, and be ashamed of yourself.

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Roy on Dec 25, 2020 at 7:14 am

They all acted like bickering children, as usual, especially during Question Period. I wish the Opposition would simply ask a question, instead of using it as an opportunity to grandstand or get in some poorly-veiled insults. We all see what you're doing. You are being petty and mean, and none of us are impressed by your antics. I also wish the Ministers would just answer the question. You don't need to go on in an unbroken, run-on sentence, that never really provides an answer. We all see what you're doing. You're avoiding the question, and none of us are impressed.

Just think how much more meaningful work could be accomplished if both sides just stuck to straightforward questions and answers. "How much did the Gov't spend on ABC?" "$600,000 Mr. Speaker, and that's because we paid for X,Y and Z." Ta DAAA! Next question. You'd get 15 questions asked and answered in the same time we now get 4 or 5 long-winded nothings.

If Question Period is about getting answers, then all of you need to grow up. However, if it's about entertainment value, like some seedy daytime talk show, then please continue as you have been.

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Wilf Carter on Dec 24, 2020 at 7:01 pm

Where are the plans for land development, housing, which are on top of Yukoners agenda not liberals. Why doesn't liberals support Yukon employees when senior management or Yukon Employees Union do not?

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JC on Dec 24, 2020 at 4:07 pm

First time I heard about the "Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Protection Act". Maybe I wasn't paying attention. This bans "conversion therapy" But now that I know, I believe it is unconstitutional. But I know no Liberal or Judge - since they are all Libs will not challenge it to the Supreme Court. So, I would like to know, does this law work both ways. As a man approaching 80, I was - as many other men and women during their young years, been approached by members of the "gay" community who attempted to counsel me to become a participant in their sexual orientation. So, does this new law prevent them from hitting on the straights? Or is this a one way thing? If this law is going to work, it has to be a two way thing. Or another law giving the straights the same protection has to be passed.

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