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Elizabeth Ryan, Heather Kennedy and Mike Gau

Resident questions pumps’ cost

A Cook Street resident wants to know why it’s so expensive to install re-circulation pumps.

By Chuck Tobin on May 7, 2019

A Cook Street resident wants to know why it’s so expensive to install re-circulation pumps.

Elizabeth Ryan appeared before city council Monday during the public hearing into the proposed bylaw that would impose a local improvement charge on Cook Street property owners to assist with the cost of reconstructing the street next year.

Ryan she understands residents are being asked to install re-circulation pumps as a means of saving water and lessening the wear and tear on the water and sewer system.

But the cost of the pump alone is $500. And, quotes to have the home outfitted with the required plumbing are coming in at between $1,500 and $2,500, she told council.

“I would like to ask if anybody can explain to me why it cost so much?”

No response was provided to Ryan on Monday night.

Older homes in the downtown area and elsewhere in the city typically use a bleeder in the winter. That allows water to circulate at a trickle around the clock to prevent pipes from freezing.

Water comes in from the water main and is circulated right back to the sewer main. A re-circulation pump does away with wasting water.

The $7.4-million reconstruction project is scheduled to go ahead next year if the residents vote to approve their $632,409 share of the cost.

Votes must be cast by May 21, and approval is required by 50 per cent plus for the project to proceed. There are more than 40 residential and commercial properties on the street.

Under the proposed bylaw, the vast majority of residential properties would be charged $9,837, to be paid over 15 years at an annual payment of $1,029.

The largest share of the improvement is being assessed against one of the commercial properties – $82,323, to be paid back over 15 years in annual payments of $8,615.

Heather Kennedy, another Cook Street property owner, told council she simply needs more time to assess the project proposal and the bylaw to impose the local improvement charge.

Residents only received the information package from the city on April 11, Kennedy said, and now they’re being asked to vote yes or no by May 21.

“Not everybody on Cook Street can come up with that kind of cash,” she pointed out.

Residents would be charged their share of the cost over the 15-year period at an interest rate of 6.25 per cent.

Kennedy said she’s also concerned about the level of ground water saturation in the area. She wonders what it might mean for the local improvement charge if crews run into trouble during construction because of excessive ground water.

Mike Gau, the city’s director of development services, explained to council that once the bylaw is approved by street residents, their share of the cost is locked in.

If anything, it might come down a bit, depending on the interest rate the city gets when it borrows the money for the project but it won’t go up, he explained.

Gau told council local improvement charges are assessed on the cost of the surface works only – pavement, sidewalks, curb and gutters.

The cost of the underground reconstruction with the replacement of water and sewer mains and such is not included in the improvement charge, he explained.

If things go south during the underground work, Gau said, it would not have any impact on the property owners.

Comments (7)

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Winners and losers on May 10, 2019 at 9:52 pm

Vote it down then. No LIC. A few years back Industrial road went up for vote on water and sewer upgrades, paving, sidewalks and curbs. They voted it down, but the city did it anyways. But no cost to the property owners. But in all fairness, another project a little later on didn’t get the same deal. When asked at the public consultation about how come Industrial had theirs done and didn’t pay, the engineer stood up and said, “there are winners and losers. Not that we were losers, but we just didn’t win as much”. The one I feel sorry for is the property owner whose tab is over $82,000. His cost is close to 10 times, but he only gets one vote.

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Mick on May 9, 2019 at 9:04 pm

@ Donovan

Would you prefer the city pay the interest? That means all of us pay for the LIC? Before you answer the ‘L’ in LIC stands for local.

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Politico on May 9, 2019 at 1:09 pm

@ Guncache - It's called interest and it's paid to the leading institution. Cost of doing business. If you want I'll bet the City would be happy to let you self finance. Maybe you'll get a better rate!

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Donovan on May 9, 2019 at 9:03 am

@ Mick - But they are paying interest on their own tax dollars, like paying taxes on taxes. Like Guncache said...cash cow.

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Mick on May 7, 2019 at 6:12 pm

@ Guncache

Don’t get out much eh?

It costs money to borrow money. Go buy a car, a house or anything. It’s cheaper to buy outright rather than finance it over many years.

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Guncache on May 7, 2019 at 5:09 pm

15 yrs at $1029- a year comes to $15435. Pay it all at once and its $9837. The city makes an extra $5598. The city Cash Cow. Thanks for screwing the taxpayer.

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BnR on May 7, 2019 at 3:04 pm

Considering you have to dig up the ground to install a re-circ line, $1500-$2500 seems pretty darn cheap.

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