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KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON – The Yukon Energy Corp. must lease diesel generators (seen above in November 2020 in Whitehorse) each winter to ensure the territory has enough power during winter’s cold and darkness. The Atlin hydro expansion project is expected to help reduce that dependency.

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YEC’s President and CEO Andrew Hall and Yukon Party Leader Currie Dixon

‘Ratepayers are definitely not worse off’: YEC

‘Ratepayers are definitely not worse off’: YEC

By Ethan Lycan-Lang on November 9, 2022

The purchasing agreement for the planned Atlin hydro expansion project could raise rates higher than necessary, says a Yukon Utilities Board (YUB) report.

Its findings have stirred up more debate about the hydro facility in question period in the legislature this week.

The report to the Department of Justice, dated Oct. 18, is critical of how the Yukon Energy Corp. (YEC) negotiated the proposed purchasing agreement that would set terms for the YEC to buy hydropower from Tlingit Energy Homeland Ltd. Partnership (THELP) – the owner and operator of the northern B.C. hydro facility. 

The YUB said the purchasing agreement is necessary – helping YEC meet its capacity shortfall, reduce its need for diesel and reach its production target of 93 per cent renewable energy by 2030.

However, the board was critical of YEC for starting its negotiations too high.

The price YEC will pay for dependable capacity ($200 per kW) is set to escalate annually at 50 per cent of the Consumer Price Index (CPI) after 2024.

“In the Board’s view,” the report reads, “YEC started its negotiation high with this CPI term, and therefore, customer rates are likely adversely affected by the approach to this term.”

The YUB is the independent regulator that sets rates for public utilities. It said YEC should have reviewed the purchasing agreement for a similar project in Atlin County, the Pine Creek project, which set its payment escalation at 12.5 per cent of the CPI.

The Atlin hydro expansion project is a key component of YEC’s 10-year renewable electricity plan.

Though work on the project hasn’t started due to funding issues, once completed, it will add a 9.3 MW hydro facility to the existing 2.1-MW facility. It will provide the Yukon with 8.75 MW of dependable winter energy.

That would displace up to five rented diesel generators YEC uses to fill energy gaps in the winter, when demand is at its highest.

The territory currently rents 17 diesel generators to deal with energy shortfalls in the winter, and Atlin is one of several projects planned to help phase them out.

The YUB report said, however, that any extra energy received from the hydro plant beyond what would displace the five diesel generators is a “phantom benefit,” and can’t be integrated into the Yukon’s grid. 

Andrew Hall, YEC’s president and CEO, told the Star Tuesday he isn’t overly concerned with the YUB’s criticisms.

He’s said he’s happy the report found the purchasing agreement necessary.

The CPI number was based off two previous projects that used the same figure as a starting point – though the YUB said those projects aren’t comparable to Atlin – and any impact it might have on rates won’t lead to higher prices than Yukoners are paying now, Hall said.

“Worst case, it’s the same,” he said. “It’ll be the same cost to ratepayers. If we didn’t find the deal and we just generated the additional energy we need using thermal (like diesel).

“So ratepayers are definitely not worse off. And there’s definitely scenarios where they would be better off than if we use thermal sources.”

Energy, Mines and Resources Minister John Streicker has repeatedly told media and the legislature that the rates from this project are expected to be 13.5 cents a kW hour.

He’s said the cost of electricity from diesel and liquefied natural gas are currently above 20 cents per kW hour.

As for the “phantom benefit” mentioned in the report, Hall also said that YEC doesn’t pay for any energy that doesn’t displace thermal sources like diesel.

That extra energy, he said, won’t cost anything, and could be sold to the Minto and Victoria Gold mines.

Both companies are looking to extend the life of their mines in the territory, which would have high electricity demands through the end of the decade, if not beyond.

“It’s not a phantom benefit,” Hall said of any excess electricity from the project. “It’s a real benefit.”

Although Hall said he’s not worried about the YUB’s concerns, the Yukon Party has taken them more seriously, grilling the government on the purchasing agreement this week. 

“When we see that kind of language from the board, we get concerned,” Yukon Party Leader Currie Dixon told reporters after question period Monday.

“Last week, we highlighted the concerns that we had around the project being over budget, late and underfunded.

“And now we’re learning that it’s also going to cause rates to go up. So that’s a concern for us.”

The project’s budget was a hot topic in question period last week.

About $255 million in funding has been secured between loans and the federal, B.C. and Yukon governments – the Yukon has committed $50 million.

However, increased costs caused by inflation and supply chain delays have put the projected budget for the project at $310 million, THELP told the Star in an email last week. THELP said the projected cost was $230 million at the start of 2022.

That leaves a funding gap of approximately $60 million.

THELP and the Yukon government have said all partners on the project are working to secure the rest of that funding, and must do so before any work on the project can begin.

That’s imperative, as inflation could further raise costs, and the project is already a year behind schedule, now slated for completion in 2025.

Streicker told media this week that representatives from THELP are heading to Ottawa soon to try to find more federal funding. The Yukon government may need to re-evaluate its contribution to ensure the project goes forward, he added.

Dixon and the Yukon Party have also hammered the government for renting diesel generators in the interim, instead of buying them outright to ensure energy gaps are covered while the territory waits to shift to more hydroelectricity.

The YUB report, Dixon has noted, says some level of thermal energy will be required long-term to complement renewable sources and ensure energy is available in the winter should renewable sources be interrupted. 

But Streicker has said the government will keep renting diesel generators until they can be phased out.

“If you build a plant, you’re committed to it for the long term,” he told reporters Monday.

“We do not want to be committed to fossil fuels; we need to move in a different direction completely.

“We’re lucky to have hydro. This is another good hydro project. Yes, the costs have been going up, we need to look at it again. But generally speaking, 13 1/2 cents a kilowatt hour is a great price.”

NDP Leader Kate White echoed that sentiment when speaking with reporters Monday.

“If we buy (diesel generators), we’re saddling a whole other generation with paying these off in the future. And we’re tied to purchasing diesel fuel. It’s unacceptable.”

Streicker said Tuesday the government is using infrastructure dollars to keep costs from this project down for ratepayers.

He told reporters the long-term benefits of hydroelectricity will provide the territory with cheaper, cleaner energy than diesel or LNG in the long run, and the environmental benefits should be weighed heavily alongside financial concerns.

The YUB notes that it does not take societal concerns around the environment and climate change into account when it reviews purchasing agreements.

Streicker told reporters Monday the government is considering changing the YUB’s mandate to include environmental impacts when reviewing applications.

Comments (23)

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Mind blown on Nov 15, 2022 at 11:00 am

To put this in math terms...
8.75MW x 365 d/y x 24 h/d x 50% capacity factor = 38,325 MWh/y
38,325 MWh/y x 0.135 $/kWh x 1000 kWh/MWh = $5,173,000/y
For a 100% publicly funded project with no capital oversight, THELP receives a $5M/y payment from YEC. Outside maintenance, where does this money go?

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Dallas on Nov 14, 2022 at 5:30 pm

Atco has gotta pay off the giant fine they got in Alberta for crawling into bed with a First Nation band in Valemont for a sweet ass contract for the tmx pipeline.

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DA on Nov 14, 2022 at 7:36 am

I mean, we're not worse off, but we're still pretty bad off. ATCO rates are outrageous.

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Al on Nov 11, 2022 at 9:11 pm

@ Snowman

I would like to think you are right. However, having been born in the Yukon, to me it was quite apparent that YEC Hall's comments were just a tad suspicious. In all the years he has headed up YEC it is very rare for him to respond directly. It usually gets pushed down to someone, or handled by the Comms types. I truly suspect that his responding was directed by Streicker, the minister responsible for YEC so as to quell the noise.

I am not convinced he made his case. His comments are less than credible and appear staged. Why? Well he went to great lengths to spin the positive and made no mention of the potential down side. We must remember that the clause, that is the major sticking factor, is the one in which is the escalating clause and the potential for future price increases at the whim of THELP. There is nothing noted about transparency or oversight regarding that clause.

Whenever we see an event unfold, as this one has, it is good critical thinking to suspect that this was nothing more than damage control. In short, "get out there and make this go away Mr Hall."

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Snowman on Nov 10, 2022 at 7:16 pm

@AI "Who to believe - the government or an independent Board" How about neither? The YEC says it clearly:

“Worst case, it’s the same,” he said. “It’ll be the same cost to ratepayers. If we didn’t find the deal and we just generated the additional energy we need using thermal (like diesel).

“So ratepayers are definitely not worse off. And there’s definitely scenarios where they would be better off than if we use thermal sources.”

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Ben Stiller - Simple Jack on Nov 10, 2022 at 5:03 pm

Dear Josey Wales on Nov 9, 2022 at 7:43 pm and Dave on Nov 9, 2022 at 2:37 pm:

Agreed. Full time retard. The people currently in positions of power where leaders use to reside are incapable of leadership. They are adept at creating societal level division through the polarizing politics of identity.

These are the same people who created Theo racism, the misogyny and other isms directly employed for political purposes. They have deliberately obscured history for the purpose of facilitating these same problems - Again.

If we don’t have an electorate capable of figuring this out, and who keep voting these clowns in… Then, I fear, we are on our way to full retard… Never go full retard they say, but here we are. Thanks L-NDP!

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Tired of everything on Nov 10, 2022 at 1:26 pm

Looks like the ol' Shinra Electric Power Company is at it again.

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Dave on Nov 10, 2022 at 1:19 pm

Josey wales for premier!

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Charlie's Aunt on Nov 10, 2022 at 12:48 pm

@ Yukoner; I agree 100%. We have the land and have the rivers so I would not mind at all if money was spent on developing a new Yukon hydro dam instead of expecting everyone to buy solar panels and windmills. All the people who have complained when locations for a dam have been suggested could possibly quit being hooked into the grid and not use the power they object to. They shouldn't have it both ways, but it seems they can. if the complainers who don't want another dam sat at home with candles I might feel differently.

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Al on Nov 10, 2022 at 10:19 am

Who to believe - the government or an independent Board. Me thinks I shall side with the Board. Trusting this government is pure folly and will only lead one to wishing they hadn't.

Another project of cost overruns that fail to produce the desired results. Sure glad I don't operate my business the same way.

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Reality on Nov 10, 2022 at 9:21 am

@TMYK

I guess your history skills are pretty weak. Those original generators and the LNG plant were all from the YuCon Party brain trust.

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Groucho d'North on Nov 10, 2022 at 8:59 am

I'm wondering how many former Wynn government electricity experts are now working for YG? It smells the same.

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Bill on Nov 10, 2022 at 8:47 am

TMYK
First of all, if you’re going to claim a fact, fun or not, cite it.
Let’s assume then we could have bought them, now what?
We already have back up; the LNG generators.
And buying them, we’re saddled with old diesel generators we don’t need and nobody wants.

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yukong on Nov 10, 2022 at 8:00 am

“If we buy (diesel generators), we’re saddling a whole other generation with paying these off in the future. And we’re tied to purchasing diesel fuel. It’s unacceptable.”
HAHAHAHA, ok. Bury your head in that sand a little further John and Kate. You're truly, truly delusional if you think renting the diesel generators for 15 years at 3x the cost, is somehow better for the environment, and Yukoners. What a great display of idealism vs realism. And no financial responsibility. The only people who think this is a good idea have been at the public trough far too long.

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Sum Ting Wong on Nov 10, 2022 at 6:52 am

"Streicker told media this week that representatives from THELP are heading to Ottawa soon to try to find more federal funding. "

So, here we go, toques in hand, trotting off to the big smoke for more funding because 2,000,000,000 every 12 months just doesn't quite buy what it used to?
There really is such a thing as financial diarrhea, folks, and the worst sufferers dwell among us and set the best examples!

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Dave on Nov 10, 2022 at 5:25 am

How much is finning charging us for your generators?
130,000 roughly for one a month. Rate payers pay the price of poor planning!

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iBrian on Nov 10, 2022 at 5:05 am

@TMYK
RE-Lib/NDP math. They are good enough to see by dumping a Failing Education system on the First Nations, they have subtracted an equation for responsibility to our children.

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Josey Wales on Nov 9, 2022 at 7:43 pm

Hey Dave...how absolutely correct you are!
The Plandemic was a great beta test for our malleability, our gullibility, our submission. We failed!

Kinda a sidebar, but those very same folks that stole near three years of our lives...are virtuously wearing poppies asserting we never forget soldiers.
We absolutely forgot what hard fought for freedoms have for value.
We absolutely forgot the sacrifices made to fight tyrants, as we lick the jackboots of political blowholes.

...but all of it “for us” including this outta control project.
So thoughtful those blowholes, those corporations toiling just for us...they stand to gain nothing 🤣🤣😬
Full retard indeed...

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Yukoner on Nov 9, 2022 at 6:16 pm

Just build an in Yukon 300MW dam. We have the land and rivers, this shouldn't be so hard to do unfortunately all the greenies, fns and nimbys get in the way, people need too look at the bigger picture. Solar panels and wind turbines are not going to be the solution up here.

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Jim on Nov 9, 2022 at 5:57 pm

So to put this in context. This $310+ million dollar project will be enough to power 2500 houses. So let’s say you put a $40,000 solar array on 2500 homes. That would only be $100 million to power these same 2500 homes. Plus no ongoing price per KWhr. Actually selling the power could payback the investment. This would not be funding another provinces First Nation corp. it would be Yukon owned, green power production. For 300 million you could power 7500 homes. Doesn’t this make more sense?

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Vlad on Nov 9, 2022 at 2:52 pm

Can somebody help me with how much ratepayers pay as part of their monthly bill to provide solar and diesel to Old Crow. Old Crow should be left to its own devices to provide power on their dime, perhaps Dana T2 can provide some education on how that should look.

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Dave on Nov 9, 2022 at 2:37 pm

The Yukon is full time retard now.

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TMYK on Nov 9, 2022 at 2:05 pm

Fun fact. If we had just purchased the diesel generators they would be paid off by now. That’s right. We have paid more money to rent them than we would have spent to just buy them and have them as backup permanently. Asking the Liberals and NDP to have basic math skills is too much to ask I guess.

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