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REMEDIAL MEASURE – An establishment on Alexander Street has installed steel with a lip to prevent people from sitting on its planter boxes. The increasingly problematic environment around the nearby shelter for the homeless was discussed at city council Monday evening.

Problems surrounding shelter are ‘challenging,’ mayor acknowledges

Mayor Dan Curtis says he has heard many concerns about the large crowds of people gathering at the homelessness shelter, the former Centre of Hope, on Alexander Street.

By Whitehorse Star on August 7, 2019

Mayor Dan Curtis says he has heard many concerns about the large crowds of people gathering at the homelessness shelter, the former Centre of Hope, on Alexander Street.

He addressed the worsening nuisance issues after Monday’s council meeting.

“It’s really challenging,” Curtis said. “We don’t really have the ability to address it individually as a council as far as resource and mandate.”

The city is encouraging Pauline Frost, the minister of Health and Social Services, to work with the RCMP and other organizations to help address residents’ concerns.

The city had a meeting with the Yukon government about this. Curtis said he did not walk away from it feeling a solution had been found.

He clarified that the territory is addressing the issue. He said resources, time and energy are going into it.

He added they’re looking for solutions but the shelter’s use has increased well beyond what was projected. He explained this makes it hard to find a way forward.

The city has some suggestions. “I don’t know how well they will be received,” Curtis said.

They include having more of a security presence, which should encourage people to better manage their offensive behaviour. He stressed this is not the city’s decision to make.

Curtis was at a Fourth Avenue glass business at 2 p.m. Monday, and counted 27 people outside of the shelter, two bottles of vodka and an ambulance. He said he made the count as he waited for his order.

“It’s a pretty regular sight,” he noted.

Curtis confirmed that the city has met with the RCMP, who are also frustrated with the situation. Both organizations are receiving complaints.

“Because we’re closer to the people, we hear it more than anyone,” Curtis said.

Two years ago, he said, he may have received one or two complaints a year. Now, it’s between one and three complaints a week.

The mayor explained that the issues surrounding the shelter are continuously evolving as more and more people use it.

He said he has seen the attitude of downtown business owners and staff change. People who started being empathic and generous with resources are now frustrated, exasperated and ready to give up.

This means, he explained, that the city will have to work hard with residents to improve the feeling of safety in the downtown core.

If the needy are pushed away, he pointed out, they will simply go somewhere else.

There are clear consequences to the shelter’s popularity, Curtis added.

The mayor, who once lived on Alexander Street, said it was a much different community then. It was warm, and everyone knew each other, he added.

“It’s not the same,” he observed.

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drum on Aug 13, 2019 at 6:44 pm

BNR
I agree - backstreet boys looking after backstreet boys from the beginning. That lot should never have been sold because of the contamination but it belonged to a prominent person in this town with a lot of clout.
This is a disgrace to this City. Open fighting, sex, drinking alcohol, abusing and threatening anyone going by, making nearby home owners feeling threatened, taking away revenue from businesses in the area, drunks staggering across 4th Avenue. Frost saying no visitors after 9 pm means nothing. The problems are all day long outside the "Shelter".

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YukonMax on Aug 13, 2019 at 6:51 am

@Jane W - How frustrating could it be to be a Pauline Frost mouthpiece. She can give us the lip service herself. That's all she's been doing so far. We're use to it.

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opendoor on Aug 12, 2019 at 12:41 pm

This issue on a National Level has been extensively researched: This paper needs close scrutiny by all involved parties: Public Safety Canada: Mapping the healing journey. The Final Report of a First Nations Research Project on Healing in Canadian Aboriginal Communities.

Message for the healing Center Proposal Carcross: "You cannot heal in the same environment where you got sick."

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BnR on Aug 12, 2019 at 12:17 pm

The whole Centre of Hope was ill-conceived, ill-planned and ill-executed.
To begin with, taxpayer dollars were used to purchase the contaminated site from the previous owners (former Yukon Honda owners and prominent local business family/Yukon Party stalwarts). The gov bought the site at full market value as if it wasn't contaminated and taxpayers paid for the cleanup and remediation work. Heck of a deal... I'd love for the Auditor General to look into THAT one...
The Salvation Army was essentially forced to take a building they didn't want, did not meet their needs, and couldn't afford to operate.
This was all under the Yukon Party. Sure, the Libs decided to take it back, but as the gov was essentially operating the place, they might as well have.
At this point, the gov should just sell the CofH to Northern Vision, and let them turn it into a nice hotel. At least the gov could recoup some money, they could use it to pay for the new French only school....

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Jayne W on Aug 12, 2019 at 12:01 pm

This is the Ministers comment, be patient I would say, it's a starting point for sure.... they will get there, one day at a time.........

Dear Yukoners, I would like to take a few moments to talk about the status of the Whitehorse Emergency Shelter.
Over the past several months I have met with the city, local businesses and residents and we all agree that the current situation at the Whitehorse Emergency Shelter is unacceptable. We are working together on a range of initiatives to improve the situation.

Some of the short term actions we are taking is starting a Block Watch patrol presence in the area. We’ve started these block patrols already but are looking at expanding that program with shelter guests and staff to address safety concerns. Together with RCMP, the Department of Justice and Kwanlin Dün we are also exploring a Community Safety Officer Program in the downtown core to ensure issues around risky behavior and loitering can be addressed in an appropriate and sustainable way.

We are meeting with local businesses, shelter guests and architects to redesign the entrance and exterior space of the shelter. Redesigning this space will ensure guests have access to an outdoor area and can move away from the front entrances of local businesses.

I am working with the Department of Community Services to finalize an agreement to have a full-time EMS worker stationed at the Shelter. Providing this on-site service is meant to reduce the number of non-essential visits to the ER. We will have an announcement on that by the end of this summer.

We are looking at providing meals to guests only and we have begun closing the doors to non-shelter guests at 9 pm.
Our staff are working to develop individualized case plans for each of our guest to help them navigate our social support systems.

We are working on programming and community engagement activities in the shelter. We held cultural activities at the shelter on National Indigenous People’s Day and had staff take clients out to Carcross for Haa Kusteey.
Shelter staff are also actively working with other HSS programs like Income Support Services to support individuals in returning to their home communities.

Within the shelter operations we are working hard to focus the mandate of the shelter, work more collaboratively with our NGO partners who offer similar programs, and expand programs currently being offered in the Shelter.
Our vision, which I know many of you share, is that the Whitehorse Emergency Shelter becomes a place that is welcome by all and helps all members of our community thrive. We are not there yet, but we are all partners in getting there.

I have been meeting with Yukon First Nations, the City of Whitehorse, the Whitehorse Chamber of Commerce, NGOs, business owners and residents to talk about how we can all contribute to addressing the issues related to poverty and homeless in Yukon.

I know as Yukoners we are all invested seeing this essential service improved. I want to thank you for your ongoing patience and compassion. I know that for some, solutions cannot come fast enough. Please know that we are working with urgency to address your concerns and the complex issue of poverty and homelessness in our territory.

I look forward to hearing from you on this. Please share this message. If you have an experience with the shelter you’d like to share, specific concerns, suggestions, or general feedback please email me at pauline.frost@gov.yk.ca

Mahsi

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Groucho d'North on Aug 12, 2019 at 11:55 am

Progress on this issue has been hard to find. It has been identified numerous times by various agencies who all report the same things, so why has there been a lack of progress?
Back in 2010 the Beaton Allen Report on TASK FORCE ON ACUTELY INTOXICATED PERSONS AT RISK was perhaps one of the best written and their opening statement reads:
"Recent events have demonstrated that we cannot rely on some of our current social agencies to provide appropriate care for acutely intoxicated persons at risk. The current standard of care may have been adequate in the past but societal expectations have changed. Historically management of an acutely intoxicated person at risk has been singularly the responsibility of law enforcement. The time has come to share that responsibility between law enforcement and health care..." Clearly this problem is mushrooming as those responsible sit and watch.
The work to identify the issue has been done, now it's time to follow through with the numerous recommendations in this report. It's time for the Premier to start answering questions on why progress has been so scant.
Read the report before another ten years slips by without any improvements.
http://www.hss.gov.yk.ca/pdf/taskforcefinalreport2010.pdf

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Seth Wright on Aug 12, 2019 at 9:21 am

@ Klondiker - Quite the visceral image...
I am mindful that the greatest danger within society is not manifest corporeally but rather, it is manifest psychologically through manipulation of the public sphere; perception, politics, and the administration of law and justice and in particular, the various intersections in which they meet.

Beware the social alchemists... Those “delusionists” who come seeking votes peddling their various snake oils... “We’re all one...”, “You are special”, “You matter”, “Have your voice heard”... If everyone is special then what does special really mean? If everyone’s voice is heard then nothing can be put it into action but the politicians will... As the substitute for the will of the people - These are the stupid ideas that are blindly accepted for the maintenance of our own oppression - The abrogation ignorance breeds ignorance...

The current political system as it has evolved is an abrogation of the democratic responsibility of each and every voter... It’s too complicated, you wouldn’t understand it, we have to represent all voices, you’re not a politician, you’re not a lawyer, it’s all legalistic mumbo-jumbo...

We all pay for a system that works for no one while actively maintaining the illusion that it does... Curious... Even knowing this, the rationalizations and the justifications come to bear upon those who would shine a light on it. Politics In The Yukon [PITY].

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drum on Aug 11, 2019 at 6:20 pm

Disgusting sight in the centre of our wonderful city. Half dressed drunks, fighting on the street, swearing, having sex, sitting on chairs outside the shelter openly drinking alcohol, intimidating people trying to go into Duffys or Alpine Bakery. What is this town becoming - downtown east side of Vancouver!!!!!!!! When is something going to be done? It all started when our wonderful government took over from the Salvation Army. Pauline Frost has a lot to answer for. If I owned a business in the area and was paying mega taxes to the city I would be suing the city and YG.

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Klondiker on Aug 9, 2019 at 9:00 pm

Dear Seth Wright
By your logic the courts are to blame, not law enforcement. This therefore brings to mind the fact that “There will be no peace in the world, until the entrails of the last lawyer are used to hang the last politician.”
How sad the world has become without common sense.

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opendoor on Aug 9, 2019 at 6:59 pm

Kwanlin Dun has a healing center at Jackson lake area off the Fish Lake road. It's a nice place, they have done a good job. They recently received a million dollars in funding for the center. Think about it!

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opendoor on Aug 9, 2019 at 3:17 pm

Definition of Codependency :
"It also describes a relationship that enables another person to maintain their irresponsible, addictive, or under achieving behavior."

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Mike on Aug 9, 2019 at 2:18 pm

....and the RCMP continue to drive by blissfully not enforcing and laws for public intox, fighting or lewdness.

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we need true harm reduction on Aug 9, 2019 at 1:35 pm

Let the research guide us- Managed Alcohol Program and upstream services! It is TIME.

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Seth Wright on Aug 9, 2019 at 1:16 pm

Dear Klondiker - Nothing is as it seems. The RCMP do not have ability to determine whether a crime has been committed or not. They can only allege something occurred.

The problem is with the Courts who engage in some form of interpretive dance like logic to fit the current judicial narrative: Society bad, victim [persona non gratis] and the perpetrator disadvantaged and deserving of true understanding...

The social structure and with it order is being turned upside down by the Judiciary who are subverting the very foundations of the democratic processes to achieve the dream of social engineering from their perspective...

Dear Sue Greetham - Hopefully there will crime checks and ongoing supervision in their work with others.

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Of course they did! on Aug 9, 2019 at 12:47 pm

So now the City says the metal strips on flower boxes in the vicinity must be
removed as they consider them a hazard! The word on the street is the COW will be installing cushions instead.
Perhaps if bylaw was instructed to daily walk the area, and ask people to please move along it might help.
Don't hold your breath.

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The reality of it all on Aug 9, 2019 at 12:35 pm

This situation that is unfolding on 4th avenue is a reflection of OUR community. Until there are more thumbs down to the ignorant, racist comments and more thumbs up to the caring, logical, solutions driven comments, we will have what we have.

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Sue Greetham on Aug 9, 2019 at 10:48 am

No easy solutions but an attempt at gainful “community service opportunities” to each and every recipient of services from this facility might help some of the users. Identify from each person, their ability to serve others, from a very wide range of options. Match them with these opportunities. Get them engaged in a healthy community setting, outside of their current negative environment and associates. Relocate, reassign, reimburse them for their service. Acknowledge their success.

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Edie rue on Aug 9, 2019 at 5:51 am

It’s Don Trumps comment below that nice people need to be left alone, along with the high number of likes to his comment that really scares me. You’ve essentially degraded those who hang around the shelter. And the high number of likes to your comment confirms my suspicions that this town is brutally racist.

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opendoor on Aug 8, 2019 at 10:14 pm

YTG did not create the problem, but their decision to run the shelter their way makes them co-dependent. The point about the YCANADA curriculum being subverted by CYI for political or whatever reasons is, this was developed in 1979-80, which means many of the street people alcohol abusers would have been the school children to benefit from this preventive education.
The point about the bogus medicine men and healers or counselors with minimal education in the field is this: An alcoholic went to see one of the greatest thinkers and psychiatrists of the 20th century, C.G. Jung. Jung said your situation is hopeless there is nothing I can do for you. The only thing you can hope for is a religious conversion. The man went away and had a religious conversion. He came back to Jung with his Alcoholics Anonymous program. Jung said you are on the right track. Jung also said, a craving for alcohol is a craving for 'spirit'. So it's a spiritual and psychological problem. So fake medicine men, fake healers, etc., who are in it for the money, are also co-dependent.
The social service providers who hand out the cash for accommodation and food, etc., are also co-dependent. This is not a modern problem. 19th century Manchester, England was the biggest opium den in the world. And who was in the front lines helping the workers with their addiction problems? The Salvation Army. Not the city councils or local governments. And I must add, dealing with the plight of the working class and their terrible conditions, were social reformers.

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Klondiker on Aug 8, 2019 at 9:47 pm

My head is spinning!
I say keep it simple. If a crime is being committed, address it, and arrest the perpetrators. I don’t care if the RCMP or bylaw don’t want to do it. The job they are doing, and have been given the authority to carry out, and are being paid for is to uphold the laws as written.
That doesn’t mean only for some people it means for everybody.

Either a law is a law, or it's not. Spend money on a larger loitering area? Are you kidding?
Maybe the City of Whitehorse Council, and the Yukon Legislative Assembly should both hold their meetings in the Shelter until such time as they get a grip on reality.

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jean on Aug 8, 2019 at 7:41 pm

The relationship between offsales hours and public drunk and disorderly ought to be critically examined. If public drunk and disorderly is greater than average in some neighborhoods, then offsales hours in that area may need to be revised. This shouldn't be a problem for any responsible alcohol user as they wouldn't be affected.

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equal access on Aug 8, 2019 at 6:48 pm

The operating times for 'off sales' should be the same as what the govt deems necessary for pot shops. If they think easy access to pot is a problem then the same should apply to alcohol.

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Lost In the Yukon on Aug 8, 2019 at 6:00 pm

Keep doing the same thing but expecting a different result? This seems to be the motto and manner in which HSS's Alcohol and Drug Services has operated for the past 30+ years.

Easily $100,000,00.00 has been spent by HSS over the past 30 years on alcohol and drug services and programs and has the addiction rate in the Yukon declined?
If there has been no change then WTF are they doing and why are we continuing to fund the same thing year after year after year?

HSS needs to be cleared out of senior management because it appears obvious they are all about protecting their jobs and securing their pensions.

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martin on Aug 8, 2019 at 5:46 pm

@Dan Curtis: Now you know how we feel. "NOBODY asked us" about your new Bldg by the airport; the one you saddled us with.

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William on Aug 8, 2019 at 5:41 pm

Clearly this was another "Yukon Party" failure that has to be rescued by the Liberals.
Don't worry people we are there for you and you and you. Liberals care.

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Don Trump on Aug 8, 2019 at 4:18 pm

The city did not create this problem but they can offer many solutions.

Firstly, the city can ask the shelter to have an enclosed outdoor loitering area. If this requires expanding the shelter by buying adjacent properties so be it.

Secondly, the CITY should develop a policy of no open alcohol or public sex on the streets or in alleys. This likely is covered in existing legislation but it's not enforced so our mayor Dan Curtis needs to carry the torch and put a stop to this behaviour.

Thirdly, council needs to stop all the vulnerable people behaviour that makes people feel unsafe or harassed. It's not a stretch to ask the vulnerable people to leave nice people alone and not to scare them. To have people become abusive when they are not given money or have then chase cars. As Dan Curtis pointed out open liquor and large groups of people who are drinking and are abusive is just not acceptable and needs to stop.

We all have sympathy for the people caught in this situation but the city has to assume responsibility for maintaining safe streets.

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Groucho d'North on Aug 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm

I agree completely with opendoor's comments: dealing with substance abuse has become a tight and rewarding little industry for a select few. The examples opendoor noted were an easy way to blow through budgets with no requirement for positive results. Lots of friends of friends got jobs and lots of goods were purchased, how many clients got better - not nessasarily cured, but better?
I think racial politics plays too large a role in these experiments. Who is to blame and why and how long ago should not matter one bit, rather attention should be focused on making life better for all the people who this great debate is about.
Politcians of all stripes are looking to make points with their target demographic audience, liquor venders and other business people are trying to pay the bills and their growing tax load and do not need the negativity that this discussion has created. Area residents want clean safe streets where their children can travel safely and unmolested.
I have said many times on this board that this discussion is long over due and without the constraints of being politically correct and muting voices that should be heard. I am discouraged that the impacted people at the centre of this controversy will unlikely contribute to this discussion in a meaningful manner, however I am encouraged by this dicussion and believe improvements to the situation overall will result.
Be clear and be polite, but speak your mind - you may have a solution to some of these woes.

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jean on Aug 8, 2019 at 1:43 pm

The offsales at BBD on 4th is a big contributing factor enabling the public drinking in the surrounding area parking lots. The corner of 4th and Alex is the hub. The Mounties are understandably reluctant to feed more public drunks to the catch & release justice business.
Liberals on all four levels of govt love to be nice and won't make the hard decisions that might loose votes, therefore the problem will continue till the govt changes.

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Seth Wright on Aug 8, 2019 at 12:59 pm

To Opendoor - The intention was never to fix anything. Social problems are worth big dollars and the development of the Aboriginal Healing Industry is a natural extension of an economic model that requires continual growth.

These ventures whether Indigenous focused or not are essentially signals of a false economy. Counselors, Social Workers and Psychologists who are worth a grain of salt or two will tell you that no person can be helped unless they want that help. These same professionals also know that any work they do is lead by the client - You work with the client and for the client therefore anything done in terms of healing and treatment is a matter of the abilities and desires of the client.

Culture has no relevance or bearing on the matter. It is client driven. This is the basis of the scam that many refer to as the Culture Industry, Aboriginal Culture Industry etc. There are a lot of government dollars being invested, wastefully, in these scams and initiatives. Records? Statistics? Successes - LOL - They don’t know because there are no records and no meaningful follow-up and no real feedback.

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Dee on Aug 8, 2019 at 12:05 pm

This should only be a temporary space, and other long term housing should be provided once people have gone through programming. I couldn't believe people were sitting on a bench outside of Whitehorse Elementary drinking, etc. Or passed out on park benches on the street. Whitehorse is really becoming a big city. Smaller units for low income people should be built all over the city. I wanted to go to Hendricks to take my son for a haircut, but decided he can wait. Sure there were drugs in Whitehorse all the time, but it's changed... also why are all the shopping areas crammed downtown? Whitehorse may want to start looking at developing some shopping areas away from the downtown core. Traffic is crazy for such a small place.

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opendoor on Aug 8, 2019 at 10:18 am

YTG allowing an open door to intoxicated people started the whole problem. After all the money poured into 'healing' and 'treatment', perhaps we should know the names of the 'policy planners' behind this fiasco. Maybe they should explain themselves, and lose their job. People need a history of Yukon alcohol funding, and the corruption scandals over the last 40 years. Example: The Tagish treatment center built in a swamp, where did it go? and who was the master mind behind the 'Wilderness Treatment at CYI, and why did they use $40,000 of community funds when there was $400,000 sitting in Ottawa for these projects?
What happened with YCANADA alcohol prevention curriculum intended for the schools to educate schoolchildren about the dangers of alcohol abuse, a curriculum that cost $400,000 to create right here in Yukon at Skookum Jim center? Why did it end up in Alaska? Who was behind this debacle at CYI? What was the alcohol funding about that went into the pocket of the man who used the cash to plow snow with his own machine until National Native Alcohol executives came up and cut off the funding? "This not for you to plow snow with". Why did Sweat Lodges at corrections cost a $1000 and thus exhausting the funding for Native programming, when the sweat lodge is supposed to be done for tobacco?
How many addicts have been cured after tens of thousands of dollars were spent on Knife |Making workshops and sweat lodges? How many research papers have been funded around this problem, and what did they cost, and where are the records? Don't buy into the scam, "we need a Land Based Treatment Center for First Nations", the master minds behind previous scams will get the jobs and the big paychecks.
The curriculum for the Treatment Center in the Tagish swamp cost $38000, the main content, "How to set snares for Gophers! Healing Center for Carcross built on the ground of the Residential school, O Yeah, what is that, some kind of ritual magic for putting the squeeze on the Anglican Bishops guilt complex? Nice job on the horizon for the 'spiritual chief' of Carcross, O! That's why he applauded the Bishop's speech of atonement! "Do something about the problem"; the saviors even now are coming out of the woodwork, they've got lots of experience.

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Ice face on Aug 8, 2019 at 8:56 am

And why is there still an off-sales across the street? Maybe the issue needs some actual planning around the zoning and types of business in the area and real support for these folks on the street, like Housing!

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donna johnston on Aug 7, 2019 at 10:58 pm

Mayor Curtis - fix this problem now.

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Capitan on Aug 7, 2019 at 10:53 pm

Hindsight is 20-20, but now you have to wonder why such a central place seemed such a good idea. And apparently no amenity space outdoors that's part of the building was required.
Every time I drive by, though, I wonder why it's so much more visual than the old Salvation Army. Is the off-sales new? Is it just the aspect that it's on the other side of the street so people are crossing more often? I'm totally baffled how all this came to be.

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Edie rue on Aug 7, 2019 at 9:04 pm

The vulnerable people of Whitehorse are now being deemed as an eyesore and affecting the middle class. That’s dangerous for them, especially when the media spreads this narrative. There is no doubt that the Shelter area is chaotic, but let’s not forget that the homeless never built the place. I see a lot of people around that area who are not homeless, but rather have serious concurrent disorders. It’s not just an “Emergency Shelter” anymore, but rather a familiar hangout for marginalized people.

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Jim on Aug 7, 2019 at 8:44 pm

This building was designed for loitering. The street side has no parking and barriers the perfect height for sitting on. Who thinks this crap up? Maybe the Sally Ann had it right. Sobriety was a prerequisite for their assistance. Now they have lockers to put your booze or drugs in so nobody steals it while your getting a meal. I’m all for helping out the needy and vulnerable, but they have to be willing to be helped. Society has made alcoholism acceptable by calling it a disease. It’s an addiction, a habit, just like smoking. Cancer is a disease. Try telling someone who has cancer that you have alcoholism and it’s the same. Alcoholics can quit drinking, people with cancer (although I’m sure they wish they could) can’t quit. This site needs to be restored so that people can go about their business without the harassment or feeling in fear for their children.

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Don McKenzie on Aug 7, 2019 at 7:09 pm

I remember when the 98 was still allowed to open, at 7 a.m. for those of us who worked the graveyard shift, it was nice to feel like the rest of the world, and enjoy a beer, at the end of your work day. Unfortunately, 6:15-7 a.m. was also the time that the tour buses loaded up at the Westmark. What a LOVELY last impression tourists had of Whitehorse, as a bunch of still drunk citizens were urinating in the courthouse bushes, and trying to bum money from the tourists, as they left town. A change of opening times fixed that problem, and also took away something from those of us, that were not obnoxious alcoholics. Now with this latest problem, what will the solution be, this time?

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Memory on Aug 7, 2019 at 7:02 pm

It was the Conservatives who made this a pet project in their last year of their mandate, the Salvation Army who lobbied for it and the NDP who cried for it to happen. Where are all of those people now.

The location is poor, the extravagance of the building is not what these people need but it made good politics in reelection mode a few years ago.

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Seth Wright on Aug 7, 2019 at 6:37 pm

Improve the “feeling” of safety Mayor Dan Curtis said... As if it were a matter of perception. You have some very dangerous people that are hanging around there on a daily basis. The justice system has abandoned its mandate of public safety and routinely releases public safety concerns to the shelter; high-risk violent and violent sexual offenders. You are being placed at risk for the sake of political interests.

Who’s watching the sexual predators in the Yukon?
https://globalnews.ca/news/3429225/ontarios-probation-system-a-joke-say-offenders/

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Elena Ross on Aug 7, 2019 at 5:42 pm

Why not focus our energies into finding ways to resolve the problem. I understand we need to vent our frustration(s). Let us move forward and find ways to identify solutions.
Learn to build on the people accessing the shelter, show interest in what they can contribute to our society. Conduct a survey and learn who they are and their dreams and what can we do to help them achieve those dreams. I may be naive in endeavouring to work for change but I believe until we see these individuals, we will have the same cycle of problems without truly looking into every individuals issues.
A profound phrase I read from the written report of De Leseluc and Brzozowski for the Justice Department in Understanding Family Violence and Sexual Assault in the Territories, First Nations, Inuit and Metis Peoples, it states the following;

"If we always do what we have always done, we will always face what we
always face-the next case to sentence, the next victim to heal"

What can we do to change the way these individuals think, to be a society contributor and not a drain?

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Dan Curtis on Aug 7, 2019 at 5:28 pm

Just a"friendly reminder" clarification! NOBODY asked me what I felt about the current location in fact I first heard about it when it was announced in the local paper.

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Marc on Aug 7, 2019 at 5:21 pm

So many negative statements, it’s so sad . If you don’t like the area, don’t go there. This is not a problem but a reality of our society. Instead of complaining from your armchair, you should be happy so many clients are getting support and a couple of bites to eat and maybe even a lifesaving bed to sleep in. If you honestly think most residents of that area are there by choice then you likely need more help than they do.

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Gringo on Aug 7, 2019 at 4:43 pm

"If you build it, they will come" and.....they did! In droves.

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Wilf Carter on Aug 7, 2019 at 3:05 pm

Poor planning of the needs of the people.

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Liberals backtrack on Aug 7, 2019 at 2:55 pm

Just a friendly reminder that this is where Mayor Curtis wanted the building built.

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