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A DIFFICULT PROPOSITION – It would be ‘strenuous’ to keep records for 20 years detailing firearms sales and inventories, says Jason Gendron, the general manager of Hougen’s Sportslodge.

Pressure mounts for Ottawa to scrap C-71

More than 200 Yukon residents have signed an online petition calling on the federal government to scrap Bill C-71.

By Palak Mangat on April 20, 2018

More than 200 Yukon residents have signed an online petition calling on the federal government to scrap Bill C-71.

They claim it unfairly targets lawful gun owners with increased red-tape in an attempt to tighten the country’s firearm laws.

The proposed legislation, tabled last month, could see enhanced background checks, more detailed record-keeping on the part of vendors and new regulations around the transportation of firearms.

If passed, it would also require retailers to maintain records for 20 years detailing sales and inventories – something that the general manager of Hougen’s Sportslodge in Whitehorse says is “strenuous” and difficult in a retail environment.

“I don’t think the onus should be put on us to keep records for 20 years,” Jason Gendron said in an interview this week, adding that he suspects the tedious process may demotivate customers and drive down sales.

“When the gun registry came into effect years ago, some customers were a bit reluctant to purchase new firearms. We’re not exactly sure why, but we did hear it on the sales floor.”

That, Gendron feared, paired with the background check extending to an owner’s entire life rather than just the last \five years, would unfairly target lawful gun owners.

Meanwhile, Yukon MP Larry Bagnell supports the bill, saying it does indeed target the right people: those who are in possession of dangerous weapons and not lawful gun-owners like trappers and hunters.

“If the bill was passed yesterday, they could hunt and trap today” without many issues, Bagnell told the Star Tuesday.

Bagnell, a long-time Liberal, lost the 2011 election to Conservative Ryan Leef after voting in favour of keeping the long-gun registry. He came under fire from some Yukoners who wanted the federal government to scrap the policy.

“What people with guns have told me, is to concentrate on people that shouldn’t have guns, and not the guns themselves,” Bagnell said.

To do this, he said, the bill would not only extend background checks to an applicant’s entire life, but also examine their medical history for any signs of mental illness related to violent crimes.

The federal Liberal vowed to tighten legislation around the sale and licensing of guns during the 2015 election, pledging last year to allocate more than $300 million to fight gun crime and criminal gang activity in the country.

“It was in our platform, and no one complained at that time,” Bagnell said.

While he acknowledged that vendors having to go through an online process to verify that a customer has a valid licence may be inconvenient, they should be willing to in the name of safety.

“I can understand the frustration of red tape,” he admitted. “But I think in general, people don’t want handguns or restricted weapons, assault weapons, these types of more dangerous weapons, to be anywhere at any time.”

However, the bill requires even those selling non-restricted firearms – such as shotguns and hunting rifles commonly used across the country in hunting – to go through the same process of verifying licences through a registrar.

That provision has got the Yukon’s provincial parties on the offensive.

The Yukon Party’s Wade Istchenko and Brad Cathers raised motions in the house last week to urge the government to oppose the bill, insisting that it lacked support among residents.

“Most Yukoners have opposed the idea,” Cathers told the Star Tuesday, praising the goal of the federal Liberals’ bill but insisting it “misses the target completely.

“The Yukon legislative assembly has twice unanimously passed motions opposing the long-gun registry,” he pointed out.

Cathers added that while most Canadians support the intent of reducing crime, he feels the Trudeau Liberals are misguided.

“I question what the federal government’s goal on this actually are,” he said, referencing the policy that would require licence verification for all guns, including non-restricted firearms.

“To target gun violence, you need to have measurements that focus on the problem, and Bill C-71 misses the target completely” by focusing instead on the owners.

Cathers also pointed out that the bill would increase work for the RCMP, eventually returning the country to a long-gun registry, this time through the “backdoor.”

The bill would see the Mounties entrusted with the duty of classifying firearms under the categories of restricted, non-restricted and prohibited – a power that was diminished by the Harper Conservative government by allowing cabinet to override the Mounties’ decision.

Concerns of a long-gun registry are also being echoed by the Yukon Fish and Games Association.

The organization’s executive director, Gordon Zealand, issued a public letter on the association’s Facebook page almost two weeks ago, after first telling the CBC that he supported the bill.

After facing criticism from some of his members and the public, Zealand reverted the association’s position.

He said he absolutely understands the goal but agrees that the bill is simply misguided.

“We support more effective ways of fighting criminals who use guns completely outside of any legal framework,” the letter reads.

It adds that the record-keeping for 20 years on the part of retailers contributes to a return to the registry, “putting the burden on private retailers.”

The letter also details that it is concerned about the limitations the bill would place on the transport of firearms.

Currently, gun owners of restricted firearms can transfer their weapons for sale or appraisal to gun ranges, shows, and stores across borders.

If passed, the bill’s summary reads that it would “remove” some “automatic authorization to transport prohibited and restricted firearms.”

Instead, the only time an automatic authorization for transportation will be permitted is when it takes place between the place of purchase, the owner’s home and a shooting range. Any other location such as gun shows and repair shops, an approval will need to be obtained.

“These changes …. will negatively affect gun shows and competition,” the association’s letter says.

But, Bagnell points out, this is likely to not dramatically affect Yukoners who hunt and trap.

“It only applies to prohibited and restricted firearms” such as handguns and semi-automatics, he said, “not hunting rifles and shotguns that trappers often use.”

Meanwhile, Cathers says, the Yukon Party has signed the online petition, and a Facebook post for the fish and games association directs visitors to sign it as well.

Launched by an Alberta teen and sponsored by Conservative MP Rachael Harder, it calls on the federal government to redirect its efforts and “instead devote greater resources to policing in Canada.”

Launched in March, it now has more than 66,000 signatures, 281 of which are Yukoners’.

It will be accepting signatures until July 28.

The bill passed second reading and is now before a committee on public safety and national security.

Comments (29)

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The Big Picture on Apr 26, 2018 at 6:25 pm

Nothing like a perceived threat to ones toys and Justin Trudeaus hair to get folks riled up.....
You'd think there were no other pressing issues facing us.

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Julian O. on Apr 26, 2018 at 6:12 pm

Typical Liberal sheep. Can you say Baaaaagnell
This bill is garbage. It does not do anything to combat crime but instead targets licensed firearms owners whom are not the problem.
Bagnell I would suggest working on your resume.

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Mah Gunz!! on Apr 26, 2018 at 6:52 am

They is comin for mah gunzzzz!! LOL!!
I've got two wall safes full of non-restricted, REGISTERED long guns. I don't feel the need to have handguns, nor do I need or want any AR style platforms.
Man, given the howls of outrage, you'd think we had a second amendment......

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Mike 282 on Apr 25, 2018 at 6:54 pm

Where are the Lieberal laws to ban 'assault vans', and for more rigorous background checks on people licensed to drive vans? Van registration is obviously no deterrent for their criminal use by the mentally unfit.

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Groucho d'North on Apr 25, 2018 at 11:38 am

I am reminded of the new growing problem in the UK with knives being used for violence since guns are not allowed there. When knives are outlawed I suspect hammers and screwdrivers will be next on the list to ban. It's not about the tools used for violence, but rather the mind of the offender that needs to be controlled.

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Wilf Carter on Apr 25, 2018 at 11:33 am

Have you ever seen such a dark time in Canadian history?
I watched a piece on our finance minister talking about investments.
Everything he stated was not true.

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Larry B only supports on Apr 24, 2018 at 11:26 pm

what Trudeau tells him to do.

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Juniper Jackson on Apr 24, 2018 at 9:34 pm

I am sure Trudeau is convinced that all the criminals will run to turn in their weapons as soon as they hear about this legislation! And the terrorists will too!! And then, we can read them poetry! Yay Trudeau!...not.

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Daniel Boone on Apr 24, 2018 at 6:27 am

This quote by Anu Garg : "I have a dream that one day all guns will be replaced by dictionaries."

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Politico on Apr 23, 2018 at 9:17 pm

Most of the people killed in remote villages are killed with long guns. Until they committed these crimes these were all honest lawful gun owners. I wonder how the victims feel about guns now. Oh right, dead men tell no tales!!

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north_of_60 on Apr 23, 2018 at 4:36 pm

Bagnell knows he won't be re-elected by Yukoners, that's why he's jockeying for a Senate seat appointment. That way he's got a guaranteed seat at the trough for life without the inconvenience of those pesky elections.

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Josey Wales on Apr 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm

This truly is a tiresome topic, nothing I could add to it as it has been said all before.
Rather than merely scrap the bill, we should vote on ridding their Ottawa from our Canada?
Have the entire country, yes even Quebec vote on getting rid of the source of so much strife...Ottawa.
Sure much they do is important, but tipping the scales to the not so much side they seem to specialize in as of late.
There are no postable words I could muster for team red and their zealotry. Buuuut.... Including this topic of firearms, we have now compelled speech codes, compelled ideological driven thought codes...biology is now sexist, science is now voodoo, reward treasonous seventh century sycophants with cash, others with seats in said Ottawa, one steering the ship most certainly, hate our oil but love Saudi oil, man I could drone on...but no.

Yes guns are a issue, as we need far more, conceal carry and open.
This is just a part of the storm, one of their tactics...much going on in this current year Canadastan.
Said it before...” Canada most likely won’t reach a 200th”
Not with a delusional p.o.s. as we currently have at our helm.
C71 will allow the police to make the law, that my friends is THE definition of a police state.
Ottawa seems to think they are plantation owners, and let us live on their economic plantation....whilst we toil for their lordship over us!
Every plantation needs enforcers, now ours will soon be able to write away our freedoms...and continue vilify firearms enthusiasts.

Fall in line subjects, Ottawa calls...RCMP wishes you respect its authority & they will arrest for non compliance with “their” laws.
What a Orwellian cesspool we have for a country, certain all those that lay dead in service to her...are happy with what we did with what they fought so hard for in those two seemingly forgotten world conflicts.

Ok a few words, how’d I do folks?

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Joe Dirtey on Apr 23, 2018 at 1:51 pm

Bagnell. If you hunt with a CZ858 or Swiss Arms rifle, you won't be able to after this bill becomes law. This guy needs to be turfed.

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Jim on Apr 22, 2018 at 6:40 pm

Well, our MP won’t stand up for the Yukon he is just a puppet. I have signed the petition against this bill. Public safety is not one of the Liberals strong points as they are welcoming back terrorist to the country and open borders but say us, as law abiding Canadians, owning firearms are a danger. Firearms owners are run in the computer every day for criminal activities. The government has changed the laws for religious reasons on having a PAL (no photo required). Also there was a change in the wording of the law done to make it look better for this bill. So in the end the Yukon MP will just follow what he is told to get a pat on the back.

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ProScience Greenie on Apr 22, 2018 at 3:43 pm

Those of us with a small 'l' libertarian streak just can't win. A vote for Harper and crew was a vote to keep the LGR scrapped but meant keeping the existing draconian Reefer Madness policy on personal cannabis use by adults. Voting for Trudeau and crew meant seeing weed legal but risks the reintroduction of a useless and intrusive LGR clone.

Responsible, law abiding, tax paying Yukoners need less paternalistic government in our lives, not more. Sadly, left, right, centre or green, there seems to be no good voting option to make that happen.

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Randy Travis on Apr 22, 2018 at 12:23 pm

This bill is completely out of touch, it's just another gun registry. I have contacted Bagnell on this directly, he had absolutely no interest in listening to me on this whatsoever, so I encourage others to contact him as well. Make him understand that voting for this bill, is a vote for the end of his career.

I think the liberals have been watching too much CNN. This is Canada and we have the best gun control in the world. Assault weapons have already been prohibited since 1976 with Bill C-83.

...how is going after a hunters shotgun and rifles going to stop gang violence?
Leave hunters alone, the liberals would be better served getting fiscal policy under control.

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Victor on Apr 22, 2018 at 12:15 pm

At some point, long time liberal supporters who have arguably made the choice of reason in the past, are going to have to ask themselves why their party has shifted so sharply and radically to the left.

C-71 sets the dangerous first precedent of granting full legislative authority to a non-elected body in Canada. Unelected officials will be writing law. What happens if a future government gives the CBSA authority to decide on immigration cases? The CMA to decide on abortion cases?

"that would never happen"
Well C-71, is opens up the possibility, and I for one think it is not worth the risk...particularly since hunters and shooters pose no threat.

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Paul Anderson on Apr 21, 2018 at 7:17 pm

I hope that every gun owner who voted Liberal is enjoying this. Did anyone really expect anything else from these idiots? Just look at their track record. Nothing but lies and broken promises.

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chris on Apr 21, 2018 at 2:51 pm

This bill is supposed to be about public safety, Why do we need to remove the ability of the government to overrule a police force? That seems like a public safety threat to me. Also why does section 90.1 of the firearms act need to be removed in the name of public safety? It makes the chief Firearms Office have to keep records and be accountable for the issuance and denials of Authorization to Transport permits? This bill Violates charter rights 8 and 9 under legal rights. The infringement is not justified. We are not criminals, why does this MP think we are?

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ProScience Greenie on Apr 21, 2018 at 11:02 am

Meanwhile anyone with some cold hard cash can cross over to the other side of the tracks and buy whatever illegal hand guns (or worse) that they want from criminals that are selling them. Meanwhile tons of guns enter the country everyday brought in by gangs and organized crime. That should be the number one focus, not trying to rebrand the LGR and force that on us again.

It should be our elected officials, with input from various police forces, deciding classifications not just the RCMP.
More detailed background checks isn't really an issue. Most can live with that.

Kind of sad to see Bagnall representing his party in Ottawa on this issue more than the people he is elected to represent. Not impressed Larry. Free thinking people want to be represented, not governed by 'betters' like we are children.

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Garth on Apr 21, 2018 at 7:46 am

if they get away with bill 71 what's next? This is not just a matter of gun control it's about our freedom as well. They are chipping away at it bit by bit and they won't stop until this is a dictatorship.

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north_of_60 on Apr 20, 2018 at 9:30 pm

Licensed gun owners are not committing crimes. The existing system of vetting license applicants is more than adequate, and further restrictions are not justified.
Why aren't the Liberals getting tough on criminals instead of harassing law abiding citizens with more unnecessary rules and regulations?

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north_of_60 on Apr 20, 2018 at 7:41 pm

This is the petition, if you're a gun owner, then sign it.


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Guncache on Apr 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm

Of course Bagnell is all for it. He voted against the public last time and he will do it again. He is looking forward to that fat pension and maybe a bbq with Trudeau.

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liar liar on Apr 20, 2018 at 7:11 pm

How does this guy sleep at night selling out law abiding citizens who actually want Canada to be a better place day by day... what a contriving puppet who does everything in line with UN agenda 21 and nothing to benefit or protect Yukoners.

Criminals don't follow laws of any kind....
Bureaucracy sure won't make the Yukon safer...

Wake up. The more laws and regulations, the more crime... worldwide.
Meanwhile, the true criminals, satanists and pedos run free and destroy all that is innocent.

Enough is enough.
The people will be better off without dictatorial commie governments controlled by psychopathic bankers who profit no matter what.
Volunteerism and liberty is the way forward out of this mess.

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My Opinion on Apr 20, 2018 at 7:03 pm

@Alex. Hear Hear. SJW Goofs with no ideas or Common Sense. Oh Lord give me one more election I promise not to waste this one.

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Jen Davis on Apr 20, 2018 at 5:24 pm

I agree totally with your comments, Alex; it is pathetic that so few Yukoners signed on and that this proposed bill does nothing to address crime and " gun and gang violence ". Bagnell says that no one opposed what they said before the election, but of course it sounded good to "oppose gun and gang violence ".,. Words are cheap Larry, and it was just another lie .

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Alex on Apr 20, 2018 at 3:57 pm

Forgot to add this bit of info, as a lot of people are unaware of existing laws at all.
The RCMP does daily criminal record checks on all licensed gun owners. If you are charged with something a red flag pops up.

What other group of people in Canada is this thoroughly checked?
Here is the source, about half way down the page :

Again, keep the guns out of the hands of people who should not have them but leave us legal guys and girls alone.

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Alex on Apr 20, 2018 at 3:43 pm

Considering the population of the Yukon and the amount of PAL holders, it is pathetic that only 281 signed this (at date of article). Perhaps this article will bring it a bit more attention.
Larry voted for the original long gun registry and for this garbage too. It does zero to curb crime. It makes paper criminals out of all legal, licensed gun owners.

From the article: "“I can understand the frustration of red tape,” he admitted. “But I think in general, people don’t want handguns or restricted weapons, assault weapons, these types of more dangerous weapons, to be anywhere at any time.”"
Spoken like a true elitist. Who are you to tell me what I can or can not own, especially when those guns are legal and I am legally allowed to posses them.

Lastly this bit of legislation, (bill C-71) will give the RCMP absolute power in determining what is considered non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. That is a perfect definition of police state.
Look at what happened to the 25rd Ruger 10-22 magazines, or better yet the $3000+ Swiss Arms rifles. Ridiculous and waste of time.

Spend money on real crime control, not gun control of legal owners.

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