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UNDER CONSTRUCTION – The 150-bed Whistle Bend continuing care facility, seen Thursday, is costing an estimated $147 million to build.

Posting violated fair wage schedule: union

Posting violated fair wage schedule: union

By Amy Kenny on December 23, 2016

The local plumbers’ union says a B.C. company was looking to hire journeyperson mechanical workers at a rate that is in breach of contract under Yukon procurement rules.

Pitt Meadows Plumbing and Mechanical Ltd. is based in Maple Ridge, B.C.

The company is the plumbing and mechanical subcontractor partnered with PCL Westcoast, to work on the Whistle Bend continuing care facility.

As of Thursday night, two postings were listed on indeed.com.

One asked for a journeyperson plumber at a rate of $28 an hour. The other asked for a plumbing apprentice at $16 an hour.

According to the Yukon fair wage schedule, the current fair wage for a plumber on a government-contracted job is $32.13.

The current rate for a first-year apprentice is 60 per cent of a journeyperson wage, which is $19.28.

“I don’t even know if they’ll have any takers on those kind of wages that they’re offering,” Marc Gagne, the business manager of the United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 310 of Whitehorse, said Thursday.

“They will say, ‘No one came to the table. We have to bring people up.’”

Gagne said that, back in May or June, the plumbers’ union approached Pitt Meadows about providing workers for the job.

“I called them a number of times and got one phone call once and it died,” he said. “I said it would be nice to meet in Vancouver, and then the line went cold.”

Steve Robinson, the president of Pitt Meadows, called the Star late Thursday afternoon, when the job posting was still up.

By this morning, it had been taken down.

“(Gagne) has had conversations with me and we have never come to any kind of arrangement,” Robinson said.

He also said he didn’t know his company was in violation of the fair wage schedule.

“Mainly because of the fact that I’m not responsible for all these cost computations and what all the legalities of these contracts are,” he said.

He said the company’s initial posting was a matter of crossed wires, and that Pitt Meadows will do everything to meet the fair wage requirements.

He said the ad that was posted is the same used all over B.C. and Alberta. It just so happened that Whitehorse got the same ad, he said.

Robinson said no one was hired by way of that particular job posting, but that Pitt Meadows has hired everyone it needs for the job at this point.

Initially, he wouldn’t say where those employees were hired. Eventually, he said Pitt Meadows has purchased a house in Whitehorse to house employees coming up from B.C.

“We have hundreds of our own people,” he said. “We don’t need to hire other people.”

In a press release issued Thursday, Gagne said it happens frequently that Yukon companies lose contracts to southern companies.

“Many of these companies violate Yukon employment standards like the fair wage schedule – which is in fact the very bare minimum,” read the release.

“Yukon tradespeople have worked too hard and for too long at their trades to have to settle for insulting wages with no benefits or pension plan.”

Speaking to the Star, Gagne said he doesn’t know the specifics of the contract with Pitt Meadows, but he said it’s standard practice to include details of the fair wage schedule within such an agreement.

“I can pretty much bet you it’s in the contract,” he said.

Shane Hickey, the director of employment standards and residential tenancies for the Yukon, said he can’t speak to specifics of any cases, but could speak in general terms about contracts and bidding.

“To my knowledge, basically the fair wage is communicated clearly in tender documents,” he said.

“Both general contractors and subcontractors are required to pay fair wage.”

Hickey said the employment standards branch handles an average of 100 complaints annually.

These generally come from employees who have already been hired and are working.

In the case of a complaint from someone who has not been hired, action depends on the circumstances.

Issues of potential discrimination would go to the Yukon Human Rights Commission. With complaints about wages, employment standards officials would follow up directly with a company.

Hickey could not say whether Pitt Meadows had been contacted.

Robinson said Pitt Meadows had been contacted this week by the Yukon government.

Gagne said he wants to avoid this kind of situation in the future by more closely monitoring contracts and bidding processes.

“I want to make 100 per cent sure the company can’t turn around and say they didn’t know it wasn’t in the contract,” he said.

“(I’d like to see) an officer in place in the government that would be able to pull pay stubs randomly, check for averaging and tricks that are being done by these southern companies.”

“Some people use the town as a camp.”

Comments (13)

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Yukon Tradesman on Jan 23, 2017 at 5:18 pm

I see Pitt Meadows is advertising for Plumbing apprentices on their Facebook website. Steve Robinson, president of Pitt Meadows Plumbing stated in this article “We have hundreds of our own people,” he said. “We don’t need to hire other people.” Makes you wonder if Mr. Robinson and his company are just trying to hire BC workers to fly up instead of advertising on a local website.
If any Plumbers from Pitt Meadows Plumbing are reading this please remember you are entitled to Yukon fair wages if you are working on the Whistlebend project. Current fair wage for a plumber is 32.13 for a journeyman. Banked hours must be banked at overtime rate.

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@ gagne 'poster' on Dec 29, 2016 at 7:26 pm

The Business Incentive officer you refer to might be just like trying to get a hold on a Regulatory Affairs Officer who never answers the phone but let's it go to voicemail and may or not get back to you. I wanted to know about if it was legal for the gas stations to all set their price the same which is .30/liter higher than gas in Grande Prairie. I never even got the courtesy of a return call. If they don't handle BB complaints and business questions, what is it that they do? What I'm trying to illustrate here is that although there may be a governing body concerning a particular area getting them interested is another matter.
If you find the Business incentive officer could you ask them if they've seen any Regulatory Affairs officers in their travels?

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Found someone else on Dec 29, 2016 at 7:11 pm

$28.00/hr for a plumber is quite a bargain. In 2006 I was building a house and paid $65 for the journeyman and $45 for the apprentice who did all the work while the journeyman socialized with people who visited him at my site. The apprentice destroyed my framing plates while drilling holes for pipes. When confronted the journeyman/owner shrugged his shoulders and indicated 'tough find someone else'.
If we can get journeyman here for reasonable rates and not be held ransom to the gouging I was subjected to in 06, good I found someone else.

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ken on Dec 28, 2016 at 12:05 pm

One can assume local tradespeople do not have the " social status" to work on a local government job. Typical Yukon bush monkey justice!

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PO'ed on Dec 28, 2016 at 11:52 am

Federal money put into the Yukon to go south and to give Yukoner's the scraps if there are any left? REALLY?? And our government is allowing this? WOW is all I can say. SHAME SHAME

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Lost in the Yukon on Dec 27, 2016 at 4:28 pm

Appears to be a legacy from the era of The Pharmacist.

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Jeff Sloychuk on Dec 27, 2016 at 11:30 am

Just to be clear, Equity Plumbing at the hospital has hired a lot of locals and is paying union rates - well above fair wage.
Pitt Meadows at Whistle Bend refused to negotiate and now has made it clear that local hire is not a priority for them.

What's really frustrating is when we try to talk to BC workers about employment standards like basic overtime pay or proper fair wage rates for the most part they shrug their shoulders and leave money on the table. How can local contractors and local tradespeople compete with companies that won't play by our rules?

I should also point out that PCL as a general contractor has been a model employer and has close to 90% local hires on both sites. Too bad they won't compel their subs to do the same.

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Yukon Tradesman on Dec 26, 2016 at 2:54 pm

Companies like Pitt Meadows only understand money. Thus the Liberal Government MUST put in fines for every violation of the Yukon Fair wage act. A $10,000 fine per violation and random auditing of wages on Government tendered jobs would end this kind of behavior quickly. In this article Steve Robinson (President of Pitt Meadows) is on the record claiming that his company has no need to hire anyone from the Yukon on this project. It is clear that it is his companies intention to pay flown in BC workers less then the legally required fair wage for this job. Pitt Meadows must be audited to ensure that these workers are being paid correctly under the fair wage act. Furthermore action must be taken quickly so that these illegal labour practices can be corrected and punished before the project goes any further.
I encourage everyone reading this to not only make comments on this forum but also to highlight their comments and email them to every single member of our Territorial Government, Liberal, Yukon Party and NDP elected members.

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Jonathan Colby on Dec 26, 2016 at 10:17 am

I was told Equity signed on with the Local 310... doesn't make sense that they'd be in violation of the fair wage schedule if they're offering a union package.

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Matt on Dec 26, 2016 at 7:30 am

Equity Plumbing is a decent company. I worked for them on the ambulance station, and at the start of the hospital expansion. They negotiated a collective agreement to provide fair wages, and benefits to their employees.

It's too bad most contractors these days would rather offer "take it or leave it" wages and no collective agreement.

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@ Gagne on Dec 24, 2016 at 4:40 pm

There IS an officer in the gov that is supposed to check that stuff. The Business Incentive Officer in the Dept of Ec Dev. Contractors working on Gov contracts valued over $100,000 are supposed to report all payroll information to the BIP Office. Contractors are given incentives ($$$) when they reach certain levels of Yukon residents working on the contract - the higher the level of Yukon residents, the higher the incentive. Payroll records are randomly audited to ensure fair wage is paid and OT, etc. Incentives are also paid to encourage the hiring of registered Yukon apprentices. The Fair Wage Schedule should be posted at every GOV contract site where the initial contract value is $100K or more. Mr. Gagne, you should talk to the BIP Office.

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moe on Dec 24, 2016 at 1:46 pm

The union and the Whitehorse Star have exposed it, now what is the Liberal government going to do about it?
My suggestion: interviews with workers to find out what they are being paid, or better yet, access to remittances to the CRA to see what they are ACTUALLY being paid.

I am so sick of all the lying and cheating that goes on in the chase after the big bucks in this town. And also of the people not doing their jobs in verifying that standards of pay are being adhered to, thereby making it easy for the cheaters.

What kind of plumbers are going to work for 16 bucks an hour?! Or $28 for that matter, as journeymen? Bottom of the barrel, folks. Either these are going to be foreign workers, because 'Canadians don't want the jobs', or they are going to be people who don't know what they are doing, or at best, they are people who are being completely taken advantage of. None is a good option.

Whichever department is responsible for the enforcement of the fair wage legislation should be examining every single trade up there to ensure the law is being followed.

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Trades guy on Dec 23, 2016 at 4:05 pm

Same things happening at the hospital addition. Equity Plumbing from BC is using their personel at lower wages. Too bad Yukoners, maybe we'll get some scraps.

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