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‘My worry is businesses are just going to give up’

As the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic stretch on, so does the economic hardship facing many Yukon businesses, says the president of the Yukon Chamber of Commerce.

By Chuck Tobin on February 12, 2021

As the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic stretch on, so does the economic hardship facing many Yukon businesses, says the president of the Yukon Chamber of Commerce.

Patrick Rouble said in an interview this week many businesses have had to dig deep to hang on, such as deferring mortgage payments and the like, but they just can’t keep doing that.

“We have been at this for a year now and some of the folks have been really hard-hit,” Rouble told the Star.

He said among the hardest-hit are businesses in the personal services industry like beauty and hair salons, and the tourism sector.

Yet, they still have to deal with rising costs such as electrical bills and insurance premiums while facing a shrinking base of clientele, said the former Yukon Party cabinet minister.

On the other hand, Rouble said, there are businesses that have done well during the pandemic, like those in the construction industry.

The Yukon government is still spending money, he pointed out.

He said while some businesses in the tourism sector have lost their traffic from outside the Yukon, there is still some travel by Yukoners inside the territory.

Yukoners, said the chamber president, are making an effort to spend more at local shops on items like clothing.

The most recent numbers released this week by the Yukon Bureau of Statistics indicate the business community was hit hardest at the outset of the pandemic.

“Yukon business closures reached a high of 164 in April 2020 (revised) due in large part to the impact of COVID-19,” says the report.

“The impact was moderated by government support programs and gradual easing of restrictions in May through October 2020 resulting in a decreased number of business closures.”

The report also noted, however, that closures may have been temporary and not permanent.

Bishnu Saha, the director of the Bureau of Statistics, said the 164 closures in the spring was about double what would normally be expected.

The bureau’s report noted there were 63 fewer active businesses operating in October 2020 compared to October 2019. Of the 63, 14 were in the retail sector and 15 were in the accommodation and food sector.

“Most of those 63 were due to COVID-19,” Saha said.

Rich Thompson of Northern Vision Development, the owner of several of the Yukon’s premier hotels, said from Calgary this week what lies ahead for the Yukon’s business community will be challenging, particularly as travel restrictions remain in place.

Thompson was appointed by the Yukon government at the outset of COVID-19 to chair the business advisory council created to provide advice on how to deal with the impacts of the pandemic on the Yukon’s economy.

The council has not been active since last fall.

But NVD’s chief executive officer said from what he sees, it’s still going to be rough sailing ahead for some time.

“Trying to manage business for 11 months under these circumstances certainly takes its toll,” Thompson said.

“There is fatigue in managing human resources and balance sheet fatigue.”

It’s been almost a year now if you think of the start of the pandemic was when the Yukon government cancelled the Arctic Winter Games that had been scheduled for last March in Whitehorse, he said.

Initially, Thompson said, businesses were looking at dealing with the negative effects of COVID-19 for a period of six to nine months.

Now, it’s a year later, and there is still no end to the negative impacts in sight for many businesses, he said.

Thompson said his company’s hotel rooms are mostly empty for the large part.

“There is some business, but it’s only a fraction of what we would normally do in January and February,” he said.

Room rates are also lower than they normally would be, he noted, resulting in a further reduction in revenue.

At the start, the blow was reduced somewhat by mining and exploration companies using their hotels to house transient workers, but those companies have adjusted to provide the required self-isolation at their camps, he pointed out.

As they deal with impacts, Thompson said, Northern Vision is concentrating on upgrading their food and beverage sector, with initiatives like renovating the Edgewater Hotel.

The company wants to be ready for the day when there’s a return to more normal operating conditions, he said.

“You do what you can.”

Thompson said impacts of COVID-19 are likely to continue for quite a while.

“We are prepared to swim upstream of a couple of years,” he said, adding they just don’t know when business will return to normal.

Thompson said he took part this week in a discussion hosted by the Tourism Industry Association of Yukon.

“The thing that worries me at this point is the fatigue,” he said. “My worry is businesses are just going to give up.”

Thompson said outside of the tourism industry, the Yukon’s economy is close to normal, given the volumes of government spending and such.

“When you get on the tourism side, it is as bad in the Yukon as everywhere else because tourism suffers from the lack of mobility.”

Comments (41)

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DL on Feb 19, 2021 at 2:57 am

If those who order lockdowns had their salary cut down to the CERB level, we would quickly see these restrictions lifted, no problemo. The scamdemic would be over pronto.

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Groucho d'North on Feb 18, 2021 at 3:58 pm

@teryaki
Yes, NVD's current President and CEO was the former Chief of Staff for the Pasloski administration, but did you know he is really a Liberal? Lookitup!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/ignatieff-understands-yukon-issues-bagnell-1.700132
It just shows to go ya some governments are more open minded than others.

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Groucho d'North on Feb 18, 2021 at 3:48 pm

@ woodcutter
"...the concept of excess profits..." Is this from the Karl Marx financial literature collection? WTF are excess profits and who decides what may be considered excess? Is there a table Canada Revenue Agency publishes because the more you make - the more they take and I have never heard of CRA saying a business has made too much profit.

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Seems fitting on Feb 18, 2021 at 2:24 pm

The other article is about giving an unnecessary advantage to FN. What is the incentive to stay in business when the Liberal gov is hell bent on greasing palms?

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Josey Wales on Feb 18, 2021 at 1:33 pm

Actually Hammer...dead-blow is a better moniker for ya I think?
I am okay with criticism, seem you have your ThorPanties in a twist here.
I still say you read like a commi, sorry if I upset you Thor Hammer.
give them a tug will ya, uncomfortable walking and flossing (real humor) no?

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TheHammer on Feb 17, 2021 at 6:47 pm

Jokey wales@ I had no idea you were so sensitive to criticism! After all performing character assassinations, and cloaking local politicians in the garb of 19th century bogey men, seeing evil in others and not in your self. I mean that's what you are all about, isn't it, calling others to account? There's the Hammer of Thor, the Hammer of Witches, the Hammer of God, the Hammer of the Wonder Smith, the Hammer of the Smith that came down from Heaven on a chain, the Hammer of the Greek God of the forge. But you chose to brand me with the Hammer of Commies, that's your obsession, reds under the bed.

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Woodcutter on Feb 17, 2021 at 7:57 am

@hammer. Josey Wales hasn't been making sense for years, with that riddle way of expressing a view. She, I think she's a she as I have a crazy friend that goes by the moniker Josey Wales, would benefit from a course in business communication. Perhaps then there will actually be a point made, but at this time it's kinda gloss over the mumbling and shake my head and wish I could hook up with the stuff she's smoking.

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Josey Wales on Feb 16, 2021 at 5:10 pm

Gee...hammer, I feel kinda bad.
Riddle me this Hammer, who is our current (ugh) Premier?
D.O.E...Is it legal, shooting fish in a barrel...asking for a friend?

Hammer, I gotta give it to ya...a pure 10 across the board.
Especially from the Russian judge, never has he read such a feat of mental gymnastics. Might take down Nadia, with that performance?

Hammer I only ask folks pay attention, ask questions etc.
There is no point in me thinking you'd ever ask a legit one of me, sad too.
You already have most of your questions answered it would read.
Cults prey on folks with that cognition, be careful.

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Ashamed on Feb 16, 2021 at 3:27 pm

Dear TheHammer - I am not sure why you think that Josey actually believes there is a CEMA SS. That seems ludicrous to me. Josey is using parody, irony, and humour to provoke thought.

So, Josey’s parody is making fun of the absolute stupidity of the situation by highlighting the “STUPIDITY” that uses fear-mongering, without evidence, to justify autocratic rule by decree through the invocation of the CEMA.

Most people can see through the shear, hypocritical-lunacy of the loss of freedoms and hopefully it is soon to be declared unlawful behaviour through the Supreme Court Challenge.

This is no place for a society to be in and we should not tolerate such incompetent, ineffectual, hypocritical leadership. This unnecessary scamdemic has done way more damage than good and it will cost us in terms of economics and social impacts for years and years to come.

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TheHammer on Feb 16, 2021 at 1:20 pm

ashamed@ it doesn't really matter what SS Josey wales is talking about, it doesn't exist except in his imagination. It goes along with all his former comments about communism, socialism, and totalitarianism. It's all the same divisive delusional rhetoric. So why don't you tell us what you know about the Secret Service behind the head of Yukon Medical, is it a police force? A spy agency? What inside information does Josey have about this SS? Or is it all in his mind?

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JC on Feb 16, 2021 at 11:18 am

Juniper Jackson

"...the prices will soar, so high that only welfare and government workers will be able to purchase them."
Welfare? Like, welfare recipients? Who are, of course, famous for being able to buy whatever they want...?

Speaking of living in a world that doesn't exist, merciful heavens!

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Patti Eyre on Feb 16, 2021 at 10:31 am

Josee, Josee, Josee. Wail all you want, repeating lies doesn’t make it truth. Shame!

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Ashamed on Feb 15, 2021 at 9:37 pm

@ TheHammer - Re: SS

I am not sure what your intent is and I do not care. What you have done is inappropriately castigated Josey Wales. You projected your own distortion of SS onto Josey’s comment. Why would you go to some Nazi reference other than to attempt to impugn someone’s credibility?
You must be a government worker? Perhaps, management?

The SS is a generic term for Secret Service. Virtually every country has a Secret Service. They do secret things behind the scenes. This is the bull-schit we get with the deadening of critical discourse through a failing and dumbed down education system with a society of obedient loyalists to an authoritative system of autocratic governance under the CEMA imposed on us with no real justification for doing so.

FFS! I feel like I am trapped in this Orwellian nightmare having woken in some alternate version of Oceania. By chance - I wonder if your real name is O’Brien? No?
Stop it with the Cancel Culture bull-schit. Ask questions and be curious. Why do you think that? Can you explain why? What do you mean by? Have a discussion.
Because Josey Wales is right on target with his jabs - Hopefully team SS will be resoundingly defeated at the polls on the next election.

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Woodcutter on Feb 15, 2021 at 7:31 pm

@junjacka perhaps a refresher of your economics class and pay careful attention to the concept of excess profits. It's been a while for me, however it goes something like this.... when there is excess profits, then many capitalists will enter the market, creating competition. The amount of profit will therefore reduced. The point being, someone will smell all the blood in the water, and think it's a good time to get into business. Trust in Adam Smith.

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Josey Wales on Feb 15, 2021 at 4:49 pm

Hammer needs a sickle...Actually his boss rules us. He is just a "medical voice" on John's state order helping shape the SS grand vision. The crazy Austrian ALSO had a few doctors on HIS staff...that helped his regime shape policy, perform their "great reset". Purged the filth (national socialists people party view not mine) & dissenters for six years they did...seems with help from folks as you?
Need their names Hammer?
Need the name of his, information minister...HIS "state broadcaster" spokesman?
If I can be equated as the, stealer of land, destroyer or worlds, a equity liability,
an environmental nuisance, bigot, a dissenter...because I am an alleged evil whitey that drinks not the Kool-Aid?

Many of those things said/inferred/equated about "my people" via YLP & CLP political blowholes and their sycophants. ya need a better edge on your sickle, hammer.
I stand by every word I write/speak. Clearly many here feel I too am filth that need be purged allowing peace in your socialist utopia.

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Juniper Jackson on Feb 15, 2021 at 2:57 pm

As our business close, and competition on many items disappear, the prices will soar, so high that only welfare and government workers will be able to purchase them.

What do you, (the collective "you") think you will pay for a loaf of bread when you can only purchase it at Superstore? Many shelves are already empty, even at Superstore. Hanley at what? 750,000. a year with perks and benefits? Silver and the Liberal cabal at NO less than 300,000k a year? Do they give a damn about who can afford what? They have not shown any concern what so ever, beyond a phone number, about isolation suicides in young people, about the rise in family violence, alcohol, drugs. What the hell was ever in the news before covid? I am so tired of seeing those same old faces, spouting the same old crap, extending the martial law, I could spit nails.

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TheHammer on Feb 15, 2021 at 11:49 am

Josey Wales@ "under SS rules" , are you equating the Yukon Medical Head with the holocaust, and death camps, etc? The world you live in doesn't exist.

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Atom on Feb 14, 2021 at 1:36 pm

Bah. Everybody late to the game in the Yukon is house poor. Look at snow machines and anything under 500 cc's asking $5000 and up....weren't sold new for that! Hilarious asks but like land prices folks pay and pay later.
Business's just up prices in this here little town, that's how they'll survive. If they can continue to look themselves in the mirror they will be successful.
Sad.

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Nathan Living on Feb 14, 2021 at 1:32 pm

@Wes
You did not mention the Yukon Party crafting a cryptic give away of a $750,000 to a golf course.

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Wes on Feb 14, 2021 at 9:46 am

The YP fiscally responsible? Gimme a break. Let’s talk Centre of Hope for a moment. The YP paid a prominent local Conservative family business full market value for a contaminated lot, paid for the clean up with taxpayer dollars, and saddled the Salvation Army with a facility they couldn’t afford, and now we’re paying for it. And how about the new French school in Riverdale. Thank the YP for that debacle. They set us on that path. And the Wolverine mine fiasco, which YP EMR minister was ok with the company not having all the cash in place for cleanup.
Let’s face it, nothing really changes between parties besides the hyperbolic rhetoric. We get $1.4 billion a year, and the party in power just decides which pet projects it wants to spend it on.
Maybe it’s time for a real change, like the NDP.

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Sheepchaser on Feb 14, 2021 at 6:43 am

Starting a business is easy. Keeping it open and profitable is hard. If you opened a business at the top of the market and assume profit will continue without adjusting your strategy then it’s all on you. That’s like buying a stock at the all time high and being surprised to see its price go down. No talk of innovation, mergers, partnerships. Not a single coherent consolidation strategy even whispered by these fossils.

The chamber of commerce only raises its head when the trough is empty. Usually, that’s to make a lot of noise before repositioning into the sand. Once they openly start asking for bailouts though, you know exactly where their head is at.

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Wilf on Feb 14, 2021 at 6:08 am

I'd like to take this opportunity to endorse Josie Wales for Mayor. His strong views and leadership can go a long way to help us through this mess.

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Wilf Carter on Feb 13, 2021 at 11:39 pm

You know what I find interesting about this organization. Ranj P worked for them before getting involved with liberals and politics. He gets elected and becomes a minister. He makes sure his former employer get the max benefits from CV19 activities in the High country INN in Whitehorse to help their cash flow through these challenging times.
When the owner of the company is a major supporter of the conservatives in Canada and used to be on the show that used to invest in new opportunities all across Canada.
Can some one please explain what is taking place here? Thanks.

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JC on Feb 13, 2021 at 5:42 pm

Sympathy for the investor class: not found.

Stop casting NVD as "the honest little guy," they're an investment engine, who own considerable assets, who will likely come out of this pandemic with more opportunities than the real little guys can afford, especially since land prices are ballooning up again.

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MikeG on Feb 13, 2021 at 1:53 pm

The conservatives are an archaic entity when it comes to politics in Canada and the States. They have zero ideas or viewpoints on the major global topics of the day like global warming, gun rights, LGBTQ rights, abortion etc. Yeah they’re pro business and that’s great but at what cost? Kenney and Ford have caused more deaths in their provinces for staying open to long.. but who cares right? Unless your one of those families that has lost someone because of covid.

And Monk you mention all the political cronyism among Liberals..gimme a break! The conservatives invented that term so don’t make me laugh. And after the last federal election how bad of a party do you have to be to not get elected after all the Trudeau corruption. The Conservatives are a dinosaur party!

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Wilf Carter on Feb 13, 2021 at 1:06 pm

Let's face the facts. When Yukon was strong it was under a progressive government.
When Canada was strong it was a progressive.
What I mean by progressive government is very simple when government brought the Yukon and Canada together in a positive outcome.
When liberals are in power they spend foolishly on things that don't support Yukon or Canadian interest and we get behind.
When you look at history data under conservatives we progressed, more money in every ones pockets, especially the lower income workers, more jobs, less poverty, happier people, more plain fun and will to support each other.
Now our country is divided just like the Yukon. West is cut off and paying the bills for Ottawa. East coast is broke and just hanging on. Ontario is finally coming back after years of destroying the economy. Quebec gets more from Canada then they put in. Let's face it Canada is on the edge of breaking up. Don't think it can't take place. Westerners are tired of paying for Quebec and the east coast and Yukon

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teryaki on Feb 13, 2021 at 11:52 am

@Joe If you think it's bad now just imagine if the Yukon Party gets in. Most of their top people are all employed in the NVD head office. Their former chief of staff, members of their executive, etc. NVD will be literally running the territory if Currie Dixon gets in as Premier.

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In search of the holy grail on Feb 13, 2021 at 5:16 am

Mr. monk where is that strong conservative leadership currently they've gone NDP?

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Golfer on Feb 12, 2021 at 11:22 pm

JSmonk, couldn't agree more! If we had a Conservative Government, business would be in a much better place - Golf Courses and Public Utilities for example.

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Josey Wales on Feb 12, 2021 at 8:31 pm

Patrick Rouble said in an interview this week "many businesses have had to dig deep to hang on, such as deferring mortgage payments and the like, but they just can’t keep doing that."

...ya mean like, INDEFINITELY?
Seems so under SS rule via grand doctor...Devine ruler of all.
All hail the doctor...all hail our leaders...the SS (clic clic)

Said Josey from Whitehorse today on what lies ahead in this political plandemic.
particularly as the Liberals remain in place.
eh...see what I did there?

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gotta say on Feb 12, 2021 at 6:53 pm

I have a facial deformity and can't wear a mask. I stopped going to many stores and banks because of the number of people who make comments. The entire shopping experience is ruined. I choose hours when less people are there just to avoid conflict.

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TheHammer on Feb 12, 2021 at 6:31 pm

JSMonk@ 'I guarantee if...' Sounds totalitarian! There are no guarantees with an if from someone who is not a candidate for office. Your repeated attacks on a Democratically elected Liberal government by a majority of Yukoners is bordering on hate speech. When has the Yukon liberal government ever ordered by force the collective public ownership of a private enterprise business or corporation?

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Woodcutter on Feb 12, 2021 at 5:40 pm

In business you gotta know when to jump off. If you don't then your gonna ride it down to nothing and that's way worse then jumping off when your able. No one said being a capitalist was easy.

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BnR on Feb 12, 2021 at 5:38 pm

"Liberal Leaders only have interest........better place financially."
Currie? Is that you?

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Matthew on Feb 12, 2021 at 5:07 pm

@JSmonk .. really? Hows Ontario doing!? Let's be honest here.. left wing, right wing, belong to the same bird..

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Lowest Common Denominators - Unify! on Feb 12, 2021 at 4:35 pm

And so they should... Back to the caves for everyone! Small businesses as Trudeau pointed out before he was voted in a second time are a bunch of cheats contributing to the climate change crisis with their lives of luxury and glitzy Caribbean vacations - What big carbon footprints you have!

Get use to your meagre lives of perpetual scarcity and basic needs, sometimes unfulfilled. This is your payback for keeping the rest of us in perpetual need because you removed the rungs below you on the ladders of success.

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joe on Feb 12, 2021 at 4:27 pm

So you have a guy from Calgary overseeing some council that hasn't met since the fall and the government throwing all kinds of money around to businesses like NVD. And you need to ask what's wrong?

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bonanzajoe on Feb 12, 2021 at 3:50 pm

So, those who give the orders to shut things down, keep their high paying jobs secured. Time for the populous movement to act in the Yukon. Those who shut things down, should also take a pay cut.

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Nathan Living on Feb 12, 2021 at 3:27 pm

It's time to open things up a little more. Another year is far too long.

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Sick of the whining on Feb 12, 2021 at 3:25 pm

People's health trumps business owners entitlement.
We're all suffering here, not just businesses. Kinda sickening to hear these self absorbed folks screaming: ME ME ME

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JSmonk on Feb 12, 2021 at 2:50 pm

Liberal Leaders only have interest in bailing out their friends and cronies who helped them get in power in the first place. I guarantee if we had strong conservative leadership, business would be in a much better place financially.

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