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MPs trying to create a family-friendly Parliament

To the average person, the job of a Member of Parliament would appear to be one filled with jam-packed schedules, pressure to deliver and little downtime.

By Aimee O'Connor on March 3, 2016

To the average person, the job of a Member of Parliament would appear to be one filled with jam-packed schedules, pressure to deliver and little downtime.

A parliamentary committee chaired by Yukon MP Larry Bagnell is looking at ways to change that.

“Parliaments around the world have been dealing with this concept,” Bagnell told the Star in a recent interview.

But, more locally, House Leader Dominic LeBlanc’s mandate letter requested that it gets a second glance in Canada’s House of Commons. The task was given to the procedures and House affairs committee, which Bagnell chairs.

Several areas are being looked at, with the goal of becoming more inclusive to MPs with young families and increasing productivity in the House.

Changing the sitting times is among the most common ways to make Parliament more family-friendly, enabling MPs to return to their home ridings and families more frequently.

Each weekend, Bagnell attempts a 20-hour, round-trip flight home to his wife and kids – and races back to the Ontario capital for work Monday morning.

“Add everything you have to do and two days’ travel on top of that ...” he trails off.

“It makes it very hard for members who live far away.”

A report prepared for the House affairs committee states that 21.7 per cent of parliaments around the world have discontinued night sittings. Many other have eliminated entire days, such as Fridays.

Six Canadian provinces already abide by this.

Bagnell admits that this would help him and others who have long commutes from the Hill to home, but the suggestion has been met with some hesitation.

If the House were to eliminate Fridays, the 4 1/2 hours of legislative work would have to be allocated elsewhere, so productivity isn’t lost.

“Some people don’t think we should have longer days (elsewhere). It’s a matter of contention,” Bagnell said.

A different suggestion was raised that could combat the shortened workweek idea – parallel debating chambers.

This would entail splitting the House in half and opening a second chamber to carry out debates.

This method is already being carried out in Australia and the United Kingdom.

In both of these jurisdictions, the parallel chambers are strictly for second reading and consideration of details of bills, committee or delegation business. No voting can take place.

“You get more things done in less time... none of the members had ever heard of that before,” Bagnell recalled.

There’s also consideration being made for MPs with young children.

Proxy voting, for example, would assist mothers who are breastfeeding and cannot go to the House to vote on matters.

The Inter-Parliamentary Union estimates that just 5.9 per cent of parliaments have proxy voting because of childcare responsibilities.

For parent MPs with young children, being in attendance for each sitting is a problem made worse by the current daycare provisions on the Hill.

The onsite daycare, Children on the Hill, has spaces for about 34 children but only if they’re at least 18 months old.

Technically, infants are not allowed to be taken into the House – though the House Speaker has overlooked it several times.

“We have a member right now who just had a baby,” Bagnell said.

“If you have young children, you can’t bring them in.”

So, the MPs would be forced to find childcare of their own or risk missing a sitting – which has salary implications of its own.

While proxy voting seems to be the easy answer to this problem, it hasn’t been met with total support from other MPs.

The main argument against proxy voting is that it could be held “under duress” to vote, Bagnell said.

“Can (it) be guaranteed that we’re free from duress when we’re participating?” Liberal MP Arnold Chan asked during one of the committee’s meetings.

Another MP argued having proxy voting goes against other basic duties for members.

“It’s not just about being present for voting. It’s about being present for the decision-making and for contributing to debate,” Liberal MP Anita Vandenbeld said.

The House committee has held two meetings on the family-friendly initiative so far.

The next steps include drafting suggestions for members and consulting with them, and hearing from witnesses.

This could include people who have left Parliament because of inflexible rules.

The committee will present what they heard at a meeting on March 9.

The committee will then table a report based on what it has heard and bring it to Parliament, where members will vote on accepting it or not.

Bagnell admits it’s an undertaking that won’t see any major changes right away.

“This will take a while,” he said.

“But I think anything we can do to make sure Parliament is representative is a benefit. We want to make sure all the people are not constrained by the rules.”

One of the committee’s early reports states that numerous tasks in Parliament and constituencies can ultimately have adverse effects on an MP’s work-life balance.

It also notes that members have expressed that a “family-friendly” parliament is a bit of an oxymoron – long hours are part of the job, and most future MPs would be well aware of that before even entering politics.

Comments (11)

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A 'Hater' (eye roll) on Mar 9, 2016 at 7:38 pm

@ can't win: Supporters and haters! The new dichotomy. You either support Larry Bagnell or not only do you 'hate him', you ARE a 'HATER'. That's a good one.

Go back to your Safe Place, 'can't win'. It's safe there, with people who support you. No 'haters'.

I just love the new cliché in mundane dialogue, and 'can't win' probably doesn't remember that it started with Sarah Palin. Anyone who did not support her was a 'hater'. I laughed at her, and I laugh at you too. It's a non-partisan thing.

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can't win on Mar 7, 2016 at 11:48 am

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. There will always be supporters and there will always be haters.

Larry knew he had a young family, yes. I would imagine he wouldn't have even run again except that anytime you saw Ryan Leef doing anything that Liberals didn't like, there was an outcry not just for a Liberal in power, but Larry. I would think that had something to do with him running again even though he has a family now.

I agree with many of the comments on here about him knowing what he was getting in to, etc, but I think the public outcry to have him back, him getting elected as party leader again and then winning was also in large part somewhat of the citizen's responsibility as well.

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67scotty10 on Mar 5, 2016 at 5:20 pm

Larry has always dragged his children into events and places where the rest of us have left them at home where and when it was more appropriate. It is love me, love my children it seems. All the rest of us have had to figure out how to bring up our children, pay our bills, balance our life and make a living. Just how much has he already got in his pension from the last time he was our MP? Now he is adding to it. I like Larry, I supported him last fall and I think he is an asset to us in Ottawa but he has to make his choices. Because he has been in Ottawa before he knew exactly what he was getting himself and his family into.

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Family Way on Mar 4, 2016 at 4:36 pm

I don't think Larry came up with this on his own, it's been in the air for awhile. I'm not crazy, either, about accommodations for family that could have an impact on the core function of Parliament. I think it should remain face-to-face, technology isn't all that as a substitute. Though I get that the travel must be pretty grueling. The Friday suggestion makes the most sense to me. I think politicians work very hard, by the way. But I need to see improvements in my life, too. Frankly, I think children or not, if you've got a job at a living wage, spare me the noise about quality of life issues. For now, anyway.

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YTer on Mar 4, 2016 at 2:21 pm

Larry, Larry, larry.
Really? Now you are concerned by having a young family? You knew the hours going in. This is EXACTLY why the local libs blew it nominating Bags instead of Miss Goepel who has the time and energy to bring to the job.

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AF on Mar 4, 2016 at 2:10 pm

From what I understand, they don't work much to begin with. I looked it up but of course I can't find an actual number of days they work. I know it's a lot less than the average Canadian. Don't they have summers off and most of February and March off? The complaining has got to stop from the government and the work they do. Maybe we should refuse to pay taxes until they get their stuff together and actually work for Canadians again.

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vlad on Mar 4, 2016 at 1:41 pm

So the first thing the bagel is trying to accomplish is to work even less. Too far to Ottawa on taxpayers money? Well nobody asked you to volunteer for that. Wee, liberal.

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mary laker on Mar 4, 2016 at 10:17 am

I like the video link idea to accommodate people.

I also think that prioritizing your goals in life comes into play as well. There are many jobs that are not going to work well for people who want to raise a newborn baby or who have young children they want to eat dinner with, take to their activities and tuck into bed at night. Being an MP and having to spend 5 days a week 7000 km from home is probably one of them.

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ProScience Greenie on Mar 3, 2016 at 4:47 pm

For many Larry, the bank accounts are draining fast, if not empty and the future's not so bright. Should this really be a priority issue for yourself and fellow MPs right now?

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Max Mack on Mar 3, 2016 at 4:46 pm

I realize it is difficult for MPs to find "work-life" balance when the "job" of being an MP is so demanding. But, this is the "job" you agreed to do. Is it not? Do we really want MPs who are only available for a few hours a day, or a few days per week?

Are we going to reduce MPs salaries/expenses by 20% if we eliminate one sitting day? Are we going to change the generous pension plan that MPs receive? How about their generous health and dental benefits?

Meanwhile, the rest of us keep slogging away in our 9-to-5 jobs -- if we are lucky to have that -- with minimal wage increases, sparse benefits and no pension to look forward to. And no daycare subsidy if we earn "too much". And the rest of us have broken families because of the very policies enacted by the MPs who are now complaining that life is just too hard.

This is not jealousy so much as a recognition that MPs are already very well-rewarded for their "public service".

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JC on Mar 3, 2016 at 4:44 pm

With all the modern communication systems we have today, a lot of parliament sessions could be done at home by video link. Think of the dollars that could be saved in travel expenses.

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