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Minister of Highways and Public Works Richard Mostyn

Minister details savings from Queen’s Printer decision

A breakdown of the promised $1.6 million in savings to the Yukon government after the privatization of Queen’s Printer and Central Stores was tabled in the legislature Wednesday by Richard Mostyn, the minister of Highways and Public Works.

By Gabrielle Plonka on October 31, 2019

A breakdown of the promised $1.6 million in savings to the Yukon government after the privatization of Queen’s Printer and Central Stores was tabled in the legislature Wednesday by Richard Mostyn, the minister of Highways and Public Works.

The lion’s share of savings are attributed to $618,000 in personnel costs, $454,000 in utilities and space costs and $600,000 in Central Stores office supplies costs.

The Highways and Public Works Reorganization Options Analysis for Queen’s and Central Stores reported that a large number of services are already handled by the private sector.

The analysis of Queen’s Printer found that, of 23 million “impressions” printed by the Yukon government per year, only 700,000 jobs were handled internally through the agency.

This number does not include the printing of 500 legislative bills. It found the Yukon government has gradually moved away from using Queen’s as a full-service printing agency.

Graphic design, plate printing, non-confidential work valued at more than $500 and the provision of copy equipment and supplies are already outsourced to the private sector, the review found.

In the legislature, Mostyn called Queen’s Printer “archaic” and “obsolete” because of these shifts.

As a result, it was recommended that all government printing be outsourced to the private sector, with confidential government printing outsourced within two years.

“The Government of Yukon’s priority of ‘getting out of the business of doing business’ has been the primary driver of this proposal,” the analysis states.

Mostyn has told the legislative assembly that all employees will be reshuffled and no jobs lost.

The reorganization of some Queen’s staff was outlined in the analysis.

Account manager positions will be reduced from three to one full-time employee and moved into the Acquisition Services Branch or the Procurement Support Centre.

The form designer and a new position of forms manager will be moved to the Information and Communications Technology department with a focus on electronic forms and data streamlining. The visual identity monitoring and copyright management staff would also be placed in the ICT department.

Almost all graphic design work will be provided by the private sector.

The department recommended that operations of Queen’s be halted and a new model for printing be developed through a competitive procurement process.

The printing of confidential documents should continue for two years while options to procure private printing are explored, the department said.

According to the analysis, there are no regulations requiring work by Queen’s Printer be done in-house.

The privatization of Queen’s services will result in an increased cost to clients of $68,100.

Analysis found moderate potential risk in the dropping of service levels, loss of in-house printing expertise and potential increase of cost over time in the private market. The department recommended service performance specifications be developed.

The implementation time was estimated at one year.

Within four months, the department will begin the re-assignment of staff, engage with the Public Service Commission and Yukon Employees’ Union and consult affected departments.

Central Stores currently distributes office, janitorial and other supplies to government clients and a handful of clients outside the government.

A review of Central Stores was triggered because 70 per cent of government supply purchasing was not through Central Stores last year. Most of this purchasing was done through the private sector at retail prices.

The department attributed this to Central’s limited variety of products compared to the private sector, ignorance to Central’s role by government clients and an increase in online shopping.

Clients are increasingly using purchasing cards and local purchasing orders to procure supplies at retail costs, which is “highly inefficient”, the report said.

As a result, the department recommended that government supply shopping be shifted into the private sector entirely through a competitive procurement process.

The move includes shutting down the Central Stores warehouse and reallocating 2.8 full-time employees while maintaining one to co-ordinate client service.

The analysis does not state where the 2.8 employees will be moved to.

The shift would expectedly save the Yukon government $600,000 in annual supplies savings and $630,000 in personnel, direct and indirect cost savings.

Moderate risks of closing Central include potentially awarding jobs to Outside vendors, negatively impacting local businesses. The department recommended that preference be built for the local market.

The options analysis estimated implementation would take one year.

Comments (21)

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Lynx on Nov 6, 2019 at 8:46 pm

@Bad Shell

Actually, I would hazard a guess that YG probably has 30-40 positions unfilled at any given time. I worked there before in PSC so I have a good idea of what I'm speaking of. As for the type of work, no it might not be the exact same job, but it will be similar and I'm sure the pay will be the same or better if YG is following the Collective Agreement which it appears they have. If they weren't, the Union would have them in court by now. Also, yes the number of employees will be reduced. The positions being vacated will be terminated as the employees move into other jobs which have already been budgeted for.
As for space, who knows how it will be used but YG has a lot of run down decrepit workplaces that need to be upgraded so now perhaps some of those places can instead be used for something else. Bottom line is that there are many ways to save in this regard. Why is it that you think government should simply grow forever? Do you think government should take over as many services as possible instead of the other way around? If you work for the Union or NDP then say no more, I understand. Otherwise it seems odd.

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Refresh on Nov 6, 2019 at 3:39 pm

@ Jim
Do you even know what Central Stores stock(ed)? Protip: a lot more than paper.
Also, YG staff are uninsured to use their personal vehicle for work purposes so yes, using a fleet vehicle is required. You may not be aware but every department/building that I know has a handful of them on site the result will be more fleet vehicles in use and more people driving around to buy office furniture, heaters, buttwipe (your fav!) or what ever else. Pssst Fleet vehicles is next on the chopping block so you can expect that private rental agencies won't cut departments the same break for, say 20 vehicles that Fleet is currently paying for several hundred.
This is some Donald Trump level 'winning' and your first in line gobbling up that BS.

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Jim on Nov 5, 2019 at 10:52 pm

@Brilliant. A little dramatic aren’t we? If you're the YG employee who goes to fleet services to get a vehicle to drive around looking for a product then your part of the problem. News flash, all sorts of paper products including butt wipe are available on line or by phone. Most suppliers will even deliver. That is what the report was saying. It was happening already. So if anyone caused this upheaval I guess one is lead to believe it was all the YG vehicles driving around looking for product.

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Brilliant! on Nov 5, 2019 at 11:53 am

So now I have to book a fleet vehicle and drive around town looking for product and pay 'retail' for things Central Sore used to have in stock?
I can just see the saving piling up...NOT!

There are saving to be made in efficiencies but this move isn't one of them.
Wanna save some cash? Stop funding the Catholic school board.

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Bad shell game on Nov 4, 2019 at 7:29 pm

@Lynx, when people believe they are witnessing a bad shell game, it does not mean we don’t understand how governments (of all stripes) twist truth. Do you honestly believe YG sits there with 18 open full time positions just in case? Do you also believe these “open” positions require the exact same skill set that these 18 employees have? I think you may be the one who doesn’t understand. The union out cry if these layoffs did happen would have sunk their political ship going forward. So no savings there, but it’s palatable enough to keep the peace within the public sector. But people want to see savings. So I guess the best bet is to pretend to have a rent and utilities saving. Again just a shell game of accounting tricks. The bottom line is there are no savings unless equipment and/or buildings are sold, or their lease not renewed. Or the number of employees reduced is the other. None of which have happened.

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Sylvia Burkhard on Nov 4, 2019 at 9:34 am

How is having government employees spending time going to stores and buying office supplies a cost saving? I remember when the government had a few purchasing agents and did cost analysis and asked for prices and purchased accordingly, seemed pretty efficient to me. Now the paper is full of gov adds looking to procure the stupidest items, how much does that cost the taxpayer? There will be no savings whatsoever in this move, but we will never get the real numbers. I can't help but think this has something to do with a company that just received some awards for streamlining private procurement and services for government, just my pessimist attitude towards any effort on the government getting more efficient or heaven forbid competent, after all, common sense is in short supply these days.

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Lynx on Nov 3, 2019 at 9:52 pm

@Floundering
Just because you don't understand something, does not mean it is an accounting trick or "shell game" as you say. Let me explain. In an organization the size of YG, there are always many unfilled positions at any given time. These positions are already budgeted for. The employees being moved, are being transferred into some of these positions while their old positions are being eliminated. Ergo = savings. As for office supplies, yes you do get a savings when you buy in bulk rather than sending out employees to buy things daily with YG credit cards. This is standard business knowledge.

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at critical thinker on Nov 2, 2019 at 9:28 am

Be assured that it doesn't make sense to most people within the Government either. The working bees, that is.

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The Floundering Hero on Nov 1, 2019 at 11:41 pm

@ Reading No Comprehension - I am going to type this slowly for you.
The $454,000 for space and utilities is not being saved unless someone other than the taxpayer is going to pay that sum. If the government moves other government workers into that space then the taxpayer is still paying $454,000 dollars.

Through the magic of accounting though, we will not be paying that sum for the QP. Savings - No!
You have to also ask why YG is paying itself for a space it owns? For the benefit of Ottawa - Uh, yes Justin we need more money for rent!

Now you will also pay for renovations for the new tenants on top of that.
How is there a personnel savings if the employees are reabsorbed into the collective? Are they now volunteers? SMH!

Then there is the idea of $610,000 in office supplies savings. Are these volunteers going to now buy their own office supplies too? WTF! SMH!
Now you want to move new staff into this space? Are these workers also volunteers? Will they also buy there own office supplies?

The reporter must have been shaking zhis, zhers or “their” head when writing this article.
Mostyn is not a hero and he is not saving any money although for the sake of the game he will tell you he is and some of you will even believe it. It literally is a shell game and you have yet to pick a winner.

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Michael Miller on Nov 1, 2019 at 6:43 pm

I was a 1.0 Gov employee and when I left they hired 2.8 employees.

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Guncache on Nov 1, 2019 at 6:25 pm

Wouldn't be the first time the Liberal gov't hasn't told the truth and it won't be the last.

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Its about the votes on Nov 1, 2019 at 5:26 pm

We in the Yukon are approaching (if not surpassed already) a 1 to 1 ratio of private sector workers to public sector workers. There is no way that this or any government can reduce government staffing without committing political suicide. The last to try that was Johnny O’s government and they were decimated in the following election. These guys are playing it a little wiser by shuffling employees around to various departments, needed or not. It’s also funny when the government wants to buy equipment or compete with the private sector they never count building space, utilities, personnel or the equipment to make their cost seem low. But now these are the savings they brag about. Although it’s never good to see anyone lose their job, to just give them meaningless employment is almost like welfare. Very expensive welfare.

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Mick on Nov 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm

@ Bandit.

You are aware that not all jobs/employees are FTEs right?

There literally are jobs that are .2 all the way up to 1.0.

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Reading comprehension on Nov 1, 2019 at 1:27 pm

"I am confused. How do you move 2.8 employees from Central stores?"
-Time equivalent
"So it’s going to save 1.6 mil on QP but COST the government clients AKA each department $68,000 MORE?"
-The article doesn't say that
"So... since buying things from retail is highly inefficient, let's force everyone to do it...? That doesn't seem very logical or efficient to me."
- Buy from retail, but under say, one contract so work isn't duplicated.
"Space costs? Surely by now the government has paid for the building the QPs were working out of? It’s an old building."
-You can use the space for something else??? Move people there that are currently costing more elsewhere.

People complain when the gov upsizes, they complain when it downsizes/tries to streamline...

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Bandit on Nov 1, 2019 at 12:42 pm

I am confused. How do you move 2.8 employees from Central stores? Is one of them missing a limb or is it a formula used in a job sharing scenario?

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Critical Thinker on Nov 1, 2019 at 10:54 am

So it’s going to save 1.6 mil on QP but COST the government clients AKA each department $68,000 MORE?
And stores savings are $600,000 in bulk purchases of office and other supplies that will now probably be bought for $900,000 on govy credit cards?
What about the ladies I saw now getting AirMiles points at staples buying pens and markers yesterday? Free travel is a new govy perk for those with cards buying supplies?
Guess that is considered a savings now too?
And the carbon emissions from gas for 100s of govy workers to drive to staples?
Does this actually make sense to anyone outside this government?

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Groucho d'North on Nov 1, 2019 at 9:27 am

They should have a garage sale. I wonder how much a sorta-used Docutech printer system would fetch?

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Anon on Nov 1, 2019 at 7:44 am

I'm not sure if the news article worded this poorly, or if the Minister's report did:

- Clients are increasingly using purchasing cards and local purchasing orders to procure supplies at retail costs, which is “highly inefficient”, the report said.
- As a result, the department recommended that government supply shopping be shifted into the private sector entirely through a competitive procurement process.

So... since buying things from retail is highly inefficient, let's force everyone to do it...? That doesn't seem very logical or efficient to me.

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M Snider on Oct 31, 2019 at 9:03 pm

If the private print shop were the ones to benefit from this, great. However we all know this just means more of it is going to the print shop that isn't local with the profits being sent back to the US.

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Yukoner on Oct 31, 2019 at 8:24 pm

Sounds like some unionized govt workers got a little too comfortable and outsourced too much of their own work. Tsk Tsk!

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It’s exhaustin listening to Mostyn on Oct 31, 2019 at 4:31 pm

This is just a shell game. There is no personnel savings that were resorted into the collective.
Space costs? Surely by now the government has paid for the building the QPs were working out of? It’s an old building.

Did you sell the portion of the building they were using or are Yukoners now just paying for empty space? WTF?
What’s it really costing Mostyn because your figures and your suggestions fly in the face of reality?

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