Whitehorse Daily Star

Minister agrees to review of RCMP funding

The RCMP became a focus during question period Tuesday, the opening day of legislature’s fall session.

By Stephanie Waddell on October 4, 2017

The RCMP became a focus during question period Tuesday, the opening day of legislature’s fall session.

Yukon Party MLA Patti McLeod questioned whether the Liberal government will support directing more resources to the RCMP.

“Those working on the front lines recognize that there is a gap in what is required to address the recent spike in crime and what they are able to provide,” McLeod said.

“The RCMP have said that their resources are stretched thin, and they have stated publicly that they need increased support from the Government of Yukon.

“The official Opposition asked the minister in July to take action on this, and her response to us, essentially, was that her government does not think this is an urgent matter and that everything is fine.

“Can the minister tell us why her government is not treating the strained resources by our police officers seriously, and will the minister be supporting the submission that the RCMP is putting forward now?”

Justice Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee pointed out the most recent request from RCMP only came about after she asked for it.

“I have been working on this issue since long before the letter that the member opposite notes, having arrived at my office in July, which I readily and quickly responded to,” she argued.

“Prior to that, I had already been working closely with the RCMP. The government supports the RCMP having the resources that it needs in order to protect our community and to serve Yukoners in the very best possible way.”

After she received the letter, on Sept. 20, just under two weeks ago, an analysis immediately began.

“ .... as a result, that work is underway, and I fully intend to analyze it properly to make a fiscal decision that is appropriate,” the minister said.

That had McLeod wondering how Yukon communities will be kept safe while that analysis happens.

It was then that Economic Development Minister Ranj Pillai responded by emphasizing the government is following up on the matter. He is the deputy premier.

Pillai went on to comment on other issues that have been brought forward by the Opposition.

‘Political rhetoric’

He argued the Yukon Party is “taking a statement that doesn’t have a lot of truth to it, saying it over and over again, and then it becomes internalized with voters so that they really can’t distinguish between what is true and what is simply political rhetoric.”

McLeod responded that Pillai’s comment “wasn’t even a subtle deflection of the question.” She pointed out that front-line workers from the Department of Justice to victim services to the coroner’s office, are feeling the pressure of increasing crime in the territory.

“The minister’s response previously indicated that this wasn’t urgent and would be addressed during a regular departmental review of victim services branch and that the department would make short-term capital repairs,” McLeod argued.

“Regular reviews and short-term fixes aren’t enough for these front-line workers. They and the RCMP need support today. Will the minister commit to reviewing the resources allocated to the RCMP, victim services and the coroner’s office?”

McPhee said that the territory will “absolutely” commit to that, describing it as an “ongoing issue” and emphasizing the close work between the Department of Justice and RCMP.

“We need to ensure a professional, efficient and effective territorial policing service,” she said. “The process includes undertaking regular assessments of staffing levels and examining future resource requirements.”

That type of work also happens with victims services and the coroner’s service.

“The Department of Justice will continue to work with the RCMP through established processes, not the media, to ensure that resourcing pressures are understood and that opportunities to address these pressures are realized in light of emerging issues,” McPhee said.

“In order to have appropriate, meaningful conversations with respect to these matters, they need to — at least initially — be confidential, so that determinations can be made that address the issues that have been raised by both the department and the RCMP.”

The RCMP said early this afternoon they have nothing to add to the funding matter.

The police have had to bring in officers from other jurisdictions to help investigate the unusually high number of murders in the territory in recent months.

A 25-year-old B.C. man, whose name has not been released, became the territory’s seventh homicide victim Sept. 21 after he was shot near the intersection of the Alaska Highway and Wann Road in Porter Creek. No arrests have been made.

The federal and Yukon governments cost-share the policing of the territory.

Comments (9)

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Spud on Oct 10, 2017 at 2:04 pm

First of all, it is obvious most of the comments here are from Einsteins who have no clue how policing is carried out in the Yukon. The policing contract is with the Yukon Govt., not City of Whitehorse and the costs of municipal policing is not being charged or a part of the contract. If you want the RCMP to be responsible to deliver a City Policing Service, be prepared to pay double your taxes now. Municipalities under contract are generally responsible to pay 100% of the costs plus the costs of civilian office staff. What about costs of communications, cell blocks and other supports presently supplied with a Prov/Territorial contract but extra to Municipal contracts. Go ahead and form a separate Whitehorse City Police Force - with their Unions, the costs will probably triple. What about the Federally owned office and support services buildings? How much do you think it costs to investigate a simple Murder - in a manner which will get through the Courts? I doubt a million dollars will cover a simple murder, with 10 to 20 million for cases requiring more manpower and expertise. This cannot be budgeted for when budgets normally go forward unless you somehow know how many murders and other serious crimes are going to occur.
The RCMP have special teams throughout Canada, with current training to assist these small Divisions with required resources - but it costs money. This is certainly common knowledge to local Governments and Justice Ministers who are prepared to pay up. Obviously with this kind of money, it is in everyone's interest to have ways to ensure expenses are justified. How many people do you suppose were employed just keeping track of expenses in the Robert Picton pig farmer case? Just read some publications and think this out..

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Groucho d'North on Oct 9, 2017 at 9:24 am

I have an idea, rather than all the money generated by fines for violations going to YG's General Revenue fund, divert some of that to the RCMP. Perhaps some incentive based rewards would create some improvements. With all the people using their cellphones while driving being caught- the mounties would have plenty of money within the first 60 days if the law was enforced.

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uh. one sec on Oct 8, 2017 at 6:10 pm

Let's look at what resources they currently have. Bomb diffusing robot, huge arsenal of weapons, multiple training facilities, new homes in the communities, new vehicles, new private vehicles, new radio equipment, airplane ...

Which resources are the RCMP currently lacking?
More importantly, as they are contract based, whose fault is this?
If a contractor can't meet the requirements the onus is on them to step it up. i.e. fed needs to better equip their members... if that's really needed.

A better way to allocate funds would be to provide incentives or discounts for businesses to allow the city to install CCTV. that way when crimes occur, a solid resource would be available to identify criminals. That may help with theft (need incentives for homes as well), violent crime... well the RCMP are part and parcel of that.

They've cost the Yukon hundreds of thousands in court dollars dealing with their poor policing. Silverfox death wasn't cheap, the new Nehass one won't be cheap, The death of Heather from Carcross because an officer decided to pursue one pot plant. The recent Fotheringham case where a window was smashed out in under 5 seconds, the Mclaughlin Belak case, and a plethora more.

An increase of resources won't solve this poor policing.

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Politico on Oct 5, 2017 at 1:39 pm

Amazing the YP is making this an issue when for years they refused to even address the underfunding problem. Now when the Liberals buck up the funding the YP will blame the government for being spend thrifts.

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charles behan on Oct 5, 2017 at 11:27 am

Give them what they need to do their job not only at night but during the day as well. This city lacks for enforcement during the day.

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Kj on Oct 5, 2017 at 2:21 am

Yes. Whitehorse police force will solve all issues. I hear they could solve world hunger too. Give me a break. RCMP is not perfect or without fault, but nor is any police force in the world. RCMP need to be at minimum fully staffed...not half staffed. That means 6-7 (or more) working on a shift not 2-4. The justice system needs to be revamped to start looking after the victims and society as it results from crime.
Whitehorse police force...next old crow police service.

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jc on Oct 4, 2017 at 9:14 pm

Of course there is a spike in crime. Winter is coming and the usual perps are looking for a private suite in the 5 star hotel on the hill. Happens every year about this time. But as for the victims, well, we just have to suck it all up and take the losses with a smile. And of course its back to work to pay for the losses. And the perps enjoy a winter of solitude - private suites, TV, 3 meals a day - the government by the way hired an outside 5 star restaurant chef. Maybe even a night lunch - don't want the favorites to go to beddy by hungry. And then lay around all day boning up on their crime courses. Oh the luxury of it all.

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moe on Oct 4, 2017 at 7:05 pm

I agree with a Whitehorse police or beefed up security guard force, saving the big bucks RCMP officers for major crime. They should not be picking up intoxicated people and driving them to the hospital, and we do not see them patrolling the streets at night preventing property crime downtown, or even showing up to break and enters. Save the RCMP for the rapes and murders and gang violence, drug busts, assaults etc. That's what they are trained for, that seems to be the work they are most interested in, and there is no need to pay upwards of $100,000 + per year for a security guard and taxi service. Other people could use those jobs and would probably be enthusiastic about doing them, for half the price. Cut the RCMP loose for the big crimes.

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Darrell Drugstore's smartest neighbour on Oct 4, 2017 at 3:04 pm

more money for the R.C.M.P. ?

NO !!!!!!!
It's time to start a City of Whitehorse Police Force.

Coppers that will actually be seen in public and
address the city's major traffic and vandalism problems.

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