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FINED – Clayton Thomas is seen in this photo filed in Yukon territorial court as part of an agreed statement of facts. He was fined $6,500 for illegally killing two wolves in 2013 in the Mount Sima subdivision. Photo courtesy YUKON TERRITORIAL COURT

Man fined for shooting wolves in residential area

A man who killed two wolves in 2013 in a residential area in south Whitehorse was fined $6,500 Monday in Yukon territorial court.

By Pierre Chauvin on April 19, 2016

A man who killed two wolves in 2013 in a residential area in south Whitehorse was fined $6,500 Monday in Yukon territorial court.

Clayton Thomas, 35, also received a two-year hunting ban.

Minutes before being sentenced, the man reiterated he had done nothing wrong and was protecting his family.

Thomas, a member of the Tahltan First Nation, had argued at trial that he had inherent aboriginal rights to hunt and harvest wolves in the Whitehorse area.

Judge Donald Luther found last December that Thomas hadn’t proven the inherent aboriginal right. He convicted him of hunting wolves in an area not permitted, the careless use of a firearm and trafficking in wildlife.

Thomas plans to appeal that ruling.

During Monday’s sentencing hearing, territorial Crown prosecutor Lee Kirkpatrick noted that Thomas didn’t even contact conservation officers (COs) to ask them to take care of the wolves before he went on to take care of the animals himself.

Days before the kill, a wolf ate one of his neighbour’s dog.

A number of options have to be exhausted before COs would kill wolves, she noted.

Thomas shot multiple rounds within a kilometre of homes in the Mount Sima subdivision, she said.

The court heard yesterday one bullet was found three metres under a hill. Behind that hill was a house under construction.

Thomas also used full metal jacket ammunition. Unlike soft pointed bullets, they don’t expand upon impact.

That means they pass through a target and can travel far, potentially hitting something else, Kirkpatrick said.

They’re also considered less humane because they injure animals without killing them.

Soft-pointed ammunition expands up to twice their size upon impact, causing a maximum amount of damages to the animal.

Thomas could also have reported the kills under the self-defence provision of the Wildlife Act, the prosecutor told the court.

Neither wolves were directly threatening him at the time he killed them, she added.

He also has a previous conviction for wasting meat, for which he was fined $750.

The prosecutor asked the judge for a $9,000 to $10,000 fine and a two-year hunting ban.

He is a threat to the citizens of Mount Sima, she said, and the court must deter that behaviour.

Thomas directly addressed the judge during the sentencing hearing.

He told the court he hadn’t done anything wrong, and was protecting his wife and children.

He noted he wasn’t in front of the judge for a violent offence against a person and isn’t a threat to the people of Mount Sima.

He filed a letter from a counsellor he had been seeing about the impact a search of his home by COs had on him.

The May 1, 2013 search yielded several weapons and the carcasses of the two wolves he had illegally killed.

The agreed statement of facts shed some light on how events unfolded.

“Mr. Thomas and his wife were very upset by the way in which the search was conducted,” the statement reads.

“Officers refused to remove their boots and searched in areas which Mr. Thomas felt were private and not likely to reveal any evidence related to wolf kills.”

After asking Thomas questions about how his business was working, Luther said he could achieve the goals of sentencing with a slightly smaller fine.

Thomas will have 18 months to pay the $6,500-fine. The hunting ban will continue after two years if the fine hasn’t been paid.

He can still hunt pursuant to First Nation subsistence rights, the judge said.

In exchanges between the prosecutor and Thomas, it wasn’t clear what areas the man would be permitted to hunt in. The ban only applies to the Yukon.

The judge ordered that one of the two rifles seized be returned.

During the sentencing, Tahltan elder Kusta, who was assisting Thomas, reiterated that he was within his aboriginal rights.

“We’re not going to re-litigate that,” the judge told him.

He said his decision is final, and can be appealed.

When Luther ruled Thomas hadn’t proved his aboriginal rights in December 2015, the man told the Star he had to prove the impossible: demonstrate evidence of his ancestors being in the Whitehorse area some 200 years ago.

For Thomas, the issue is also about the territorial government not dealing with wolves.

He accused the government of hiding behind the self-defence provision, the only one that allows individuals to shoot wolves in such situations.

“They’ll spend all the time in the world to go through your house, and prosecute the hell out of you,” he said.

“They’re telling me I don’t have the right to protect my kids and wife.”

He has 30 days to file an appeal to Yukon Supreme Court.

Comments (18)

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yter on Apr 22, 2016 at 7:00 am

Well, you said it ("sometimes the law needs to be broken"). I suppose you meant this comment to mean something else?
Do I like my killers with badges? So what are you referring to? The killing of wolves, or the killing of unarmed black kids in th US, because that's kind of off topic, no? Yeah, a dead wolf is a dead wolf, but, the COs are trained and authorized by law to undertake this unpleasant (but sometimes necessary) task. So in this case, I will take the killers with badges (as you so eloquently describe them), and why? Because that's who we as a society have authorized to do so, and they would do it responsibly. Did Clayton do it responsibly? No, he did not, as is demonstrated by his using full metal jacketed bullets. Those are not hunting bullets, but will pass right through and carry on their own, merry high velocity way until something (or someone) stops them.
Laws and regulations are what keeps our society from degenerating into lawlessness and anarchy. It's not a perfect system, but we deviate from it at our peril.

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Max Mack on Apr 21, 2016 at 2:59 pm

@yter

Nice ad hominem. But, you should read my comment a little more carefully. You've entirely missed my point.
As for vigilante justice, haven't you been following the news at all lately? Police in Canada and North America routinely serve the role of judge, jury and executioner. Guess you like your killers with badges, after all?

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yter on Apr 21, 2016 at 12:15 pm

Max
Interesting perspective, advocating vigilante justice. That is what your saying, right? So by your standard, I can assume the role of a peace officer and come after you if I see you breaking a law. Good to know. Or, I can just break a law if I perceive a threat and don't want to bother with contacting the authorities.
You've thought this one out I see.

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Max Mack on Apr 20, 2016 at 6:01 pm

The truth is Mr. Thomas did nothing different than the COs who shot wolves near the dump because they were exhibiting "unnatural" behaviour. Walk your dog and get followed by a wolf (imaginary or not)? The COs will hero up and kill them a few, "sending a message to other wolves". What a laugh!

Want to be saved from the bogeyman? Call the COs! It's Canada. We like our killers with guns AND badges!

Hyberbole aside, I hope at least someone gets my point. Yes - Mr. Thomas discharged a firearm within community boundaries (apparently, only "peace officers" can do that). So, he did break the "law". And, sometimes the law needs to be broken.

Was Mr. Thomas justified in breaking the law? Perhaps the answer depends on whether you like your wolves offed by killers with badges?

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Yter on Apr 20, 2016 at 4:40 pm

Moose Meat said it best.
This issue is not about First Nations rights, it's about Clayton doing whatever he wants regardless. Clayton made this a FN issue, no one else even brought it up. This was Clayton's only card to play, and he has been milking it for all it's worth, much to the ire of every FN friend I know.
Man up Clayton, take the punishment, it's essentially a slap on the wrist. In the contracting community, Clayton likes to boast about a few thousand being chump change for him, so now he can prove it.

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Moose Meat Mafia on Apr 20, 2016 at 10:48 am

I am Yukon First Nations and I do not go around with full metal jacket rounds in my rifle shooting and wasting animals for BC wolf bounties.
This is an individual who committed an individual act. To claim aboriginal rights is B.S.

If that was the case than he would have known how to trap them right ?

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Safe t guy on Apr 19, 2016 at 10:19 pm

Seems the really big issue here is the use of a medium to high power rifle in a populated subdivision, there are lots of ways to hunt without a gun. I think discharging a firearm in subdivision inside city limits should also carry the bylaw fine and firearm ban for this guy , he is obviously not safe with a gun.

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Salar on Apr 19, 2016 at 7:20 pm

So you can get less time and no fine for raping a 12 year old?!!??.....sorry Clayton, you haven't done this enough to allow for lieniency......?

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BnR on Apr 19, 2016 at 6:42 pm

Q: How many people have been injured or killed by Wolves in the Yukon?
A: Exactly.
Now, given how many people have been injured or killed by motor vehicles, I think Clayton's time would be better spent ensuring residents of the Sima neighbourhood adhered to the speed limits in this area, because statistically, his family is much, much more likely to be injured or killed by a speeding vehicle. But hey, it's much better press to be sensationalistic. Fiction is far more entertaining than fact.

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Ban the trolls on Apr 19, 2016 at 6:37 pm

OK all you FN Haters out there, this has absolutely nothing to do with the FN right to hunt. This has nothing to do with FNs other then in this case it is a convenient defense. Most FNs would not do what this jerk did. Of course he has to live with it.
So all you haters just settle down and try to be nice.

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wolverine on Apr 19, 2016 at 6:31 pm

The convicted person caught the attention of authorities when he boasted about the wolf kills and showed pictures on social media. That's what caused most of the trouble.

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woodcutter on Apr 19, 2016 at 5:53 pm

Let's get this straight, your brave enough to hunt wolves, which I take scare the hell out of you, to the point you feel the need to protect your family, however when your house is searched by Conservation Officers, you need go see a counselor? Har har har. what a load of crap.

You're selfish and self centered, only looking to enrich your own pocket, at the expense of wildlife. I bet I spend more time in the bush then you do, and I never had problems with bears and wolves. Me thinks your a fraud.

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Yukon Hunter on Apr 19, 2016 at 5:35 pm

“They’re telling me I don’t have the right to protect my kids and wife.”
What about people who want to protect their wife and kids from wild cards like Clayton discharging firearms illegally in a residential area? Or does Clayton's "rights" trump everyone else's? From Clayton's complete lack of comprehension that he did anything wrong, I'd say it's clear that he perceives his interests are above anyone else's.
Clayton gives hunters and firearm owners in general a bad name.

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Just Say'in on Apr 19, 2016 at 5:22 pm

Before everyone gets carried away. He was just helping out his neighbour in the way it would have always been done in the past.

In days gone by (and not very many) If you had a neighbour who was a hunter or Trapper as is Clayton you would call him up when you had this kind of a problem and they would help you out. It was and still is common practise almost anywhere in the Yukon.

As for him planning on selling the hides (Why Not) he is a licensed trapper. At least the animals are getting put to a use.

They treated him like he was some sort of a terrorist, confiscating phones, computers, Lap tops, iPads what ever as well as a bunch of furs that he had already from his trap line.

I for one think that this was way over the top. Look at the charges that are being placed on real bad assed criminals these days that hurt and kill people. Sell drugs and sexually assault children and tell me how this was fair.

There is no way that Wildlife guys should have those powers of search and seizure that even the RCMP don't have. Marching through your house looking in every drawer.

As for them finding a bullet three meters in the ground, that is a good thing, shows he was shooting toward the hill to make sure they didn't go further then that.

Also note that in the last couple of months the wildlife guys have been on a rampage indiscriminately killing Wolves due to a complaint. When did it get to the point where the only ones who can make decisions are the GOVERNMENT. Wake up people, you may be next. Don't catch one to many fish, Heaven Forbid.

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Thomas Brewer on Apr 19, 2016 at 4:23 pm

FTA: "he received a two-year hunting ban" and "Thomas will have 18 months to pay the $6,500-fine. The hunting ban will continue after two years if the fine hasn’t been paid." however "He can still hunt pursuant to First Nation subsistence rights, the judge said." so in reality, there is no ban, he doesn't have to pay the $6500 EVER and where's the criminal charges for having over capacity magazines (30 rounds vs legal 5 rounds as reported in other media sources).

The only message this sentencing delivers is that people whom claim First Nations heritage can pretty much break any wildlife and firearms laws and not fear the repercussions. Sickening.

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mary laker on Apr 19, 2016 at 3:43 pm

When wolves were a problem this past winter in the Golden Horn area, our neighbours (at least two sets of them), contacted the CO's and got info on how to go about things safely and what the laws are. The CO's also attended at least one neighbour's property and I believe tried to set traps.

The point is that we can't run around a neighbourhood shooting animals then saying it's our right to kill what we want.

Also, I followed the new stories and Clayton had plans to turn the pelts into BC offices to collect bounties on them, which suggests less pure motives than protecting his wife and kids, plus his willingness to lie about things.

I'd have had no problem whatsoever if Clayton had made any effort to do things right, but he didn't. Even down to the ammunition he used - more cruel to the wolves, more dangerous to his neighbours who he was supposedly concerned about, but better for the pelts. Sorry pal. Not with you on this one.

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Josey Whales on Apr 19, 2016 at 3:24 pm

That is a very large fine!

I am disappointed there is not a community service component as well. For example, some positive work in the schools teaching students and teachers about the harvesting of fur bearing animals.

And I hope Clayton does not hold onto hostility towards the Conservation Officers who were doing their jobs. I have a lot of respect for them and know they respond respectfully and professionally based upon the few times I have called them.

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lindsay on Apr 19, 2016 at 3:18 pm

Seems like a cocky guy to me who think rules dont apply to him. Give him some jail time with a book on Yukon Laws to ponder on.

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