MAD’s woes ‘a really negative scenario’
Growing discontent among students of the Music, Arts and Drama (MAD) program culminated in a petition filed to the Yukon government on Wednesday.
By Gabrielle Plonka on October 9, 2020
Growing discontent among students of the Music, Arts and Drama (MAD) program culminated in a petition filed to the Yukon government on Wednesday.
The petition asks the Department of Education to consider moving MAD out of Porter Creek Secondary School, where it was relocated from the Wood Street Centre due to spacing considerations.
More than 600 of the petition’s signatures are online, with 70-plus on paper.
MAD students and parents have vocally opposed the move, arguing the integrity of the program is linked to the private space and theatre equipment that Wood Street Centre provides.
“Our concerns are about the housing of our program, because we were kicked out of Wood Street and we were put in Porter Creek, which hasn’t been going well,” Michael Gwynne-Thompson, a MAD student, told the Star.
“It’s been a really negative scenario.”
Gwynne-Thompson was one of the students who helped organize an online and paper petition asking for a reversal of MAD’s move to Porter Creek.
The petition states that the program cannot operate effectively at the public secondary school.
It explains that the classroom reserved for MAD students is too small to house the 28-student drama program.
The school bells interrupt the flow of learning, and MAD students are ridiculed by the regular student population.
The theatre facilities are also shared with the general student population and are inadequate in comparison to the blackbox theatre in the Wood Street Centre, the petition says.
The petition asks the Education department to return the MAD program to the Wood Street Centre, or consider the Guild Hall or the Yukon Arts Centre as new locations.
Education Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee told the legislature Wednesday that her department did its best to preserve the integrity of the program.
“I think that it is important for Yukoners to remember that this is a serious matter,” McPhee said.
“We are in the middle of a world pandemic and we all must do our part; decisions have been made so that students could return to school safely.”
Gwynne-Thompson told the Star he attended the legislative assembly on Wednesday, with a group of other students, to hear the minister’s response to the petition.
He said he found McPhee’s reaction inadequate.
“I thought it was kind of funny, honestly. I thought Tracy McPhee’s ability to not answer any of the questions was really impressive,” Gwynne-Thompson said.
“Any response would have been better than what we got.”
Gwynne-Thompson said his classmates were hoping for some recognition that the program’s move has been detrimental to their learning.
“It was a shame just how little we were given, because we’ve been kept in the dark and all we want is an answer,” Gwynne-Thompson said.
In an interview with reporters, McPhee said the Guild Hall and the arts centre were considered as potential locations for MAD during the summer.
“Obviously, those places are not schools, there has to be a consideration for other adults that have access to those places, the health and safety of students in those places, whether or not classes could properly be held there,” McPhee said.
The Star’s request for comment from the Guild Hall was not returned.
A request for comment from the arts centre was declined, though a communications representative confirmed the centre has not been approached by the government about MAD.
The minister said the Education department is working on a solution, and conversations are ongoing.
She was unable to guarantee an eventual return to the Wood Street Centre for MAD students.
“To go back to a building that we know has issues may be the decision, it may not be the decision, it may be an arts centre partnership, it might be a Guild partnership,” McPhee said.
“What I want to do is give the latitude and the ability for those decisions to be taken as we learn more about the pandemic.”
This week, a MAD storage room in the Wood Street Centre was repurposed to make room for the Grade 8 students who currently attend classes in the building.
Gwynne-Thompson said the room was promised as a safe space for the program’s equipment.
“Our teacher has been really silent about the matter, particularly to us,” Gwynne-Thompson said.
“He has not been involved in the matter at all, but the one thing he said that was disheartening to see was the work he had put into that room taken away without warning, and they didn’t ask him.”
Gwynne-Thompson said the storage room had functioned as an art room for MAD students – it had workbenches and set-building equipment. He said the walls of the room were lined with 20 years of MAD memorabilia.
“They mean a lot to people in that program; you see relics of the past, but unfortunately, they were pulled from the wallsand put into storage,” Gwynne-Thompson said.
Maria Paré, an Education spokeswoman, responded to accusations that the room was gutted without permission via email on Wednesday.
“In this case, the grade 8 programming needed additional space for further health and safety adjustments and learning adaptations, so a room that the Wood Street Centre programs had been using for storage is being repurposed,” Paré said.
The equipment and props are being moved to another storage space in the building, Paré said, and program staff will have access to it.
The government must respond to the MAD petition by Oct. 22.
Gwynne-Thompson said he and his classmates are hopeful, but not optimistic, about the response.
“Best-case scenario, our class gets moved to the Guild and the second semester class is put back into Wood Street, but that is most likely not going to happen,” Gwynne-Thompson said.
“I think the likely answer, and the one that would be the most disheartening, is that they say no, and keep us in P.C., which is a really bad environment for the program to be in because there’s been ridicule and the space is inadequate for housing all the things the program is meant to accomplish.”
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More letters on this issue will be published in Tuesday’s Star.
Comments (21)
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Dear MAD on Oct 15, 2020 at 4:45 pm
Dear MAD students,
You're going to need to learn to be adaptable. Make the best out of a frustrating circumstance, and people will respect you for it. I agree that the new location is less than ideal, but public safety trumps the MAD program. If you don't believe that there is a health and safety issue, then you should approach Dr. Hanley and convince him of that.
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Feckingbelievable! on Oct 15, 2020 at 4:10 pm
@HealthandSafety - There is an epidemic of bullying behaviour in the Yukon within government, especially within government, to the point that many have given up. You are correct that bullying “causes” mental ill-health and this is evidenced by long-standing issues and concerns regularly played out in Yukon public spaces. The people doing so will always assert their right for doing so because they have the balance of power notwithstanding their wrong. The Union, the Ombudsperson, the Privacy Commissioner, the Tribunals, the Boards, and often the Courts uphold these wrongs because of the balance of power tipped in favour of the bully... And the bullies know this... And the bullies use this... The Yukon is a perfect closed loop in which the victim is always turned around by the gatekeepers to face the bully... In the Yukon it is a lose, lose, lose situation...
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Groucho d'North on Oct 15, 2020 at 3:46 pm
I have been following this story for some time with my comments to myself in hopes that some solution-oriented outcomes would occur. If anything, it appears YG is ratcheting things down a little tighter. Resolution is still a long ways off, but their True Colours are becoming brighter.
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Anton on Oct 14, 2020 at 7:53 am
The city should have nine spare buildings one of which could be suitable for this program. I had suggested this previously. Did any of the proponents for a new space look into this or do they assemble only for photo ops at the YTG foyer?
Maybe Bill is keeping these buildings now and is expanding his ever draining program of inefficiencies.
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Jake The Bosun on Oct 13, 2020 at 6:17 pm
Snowy, I have kids at FH too. Did you notice that the Department divided the school population into two halves " to decrease the numbers of contacts", but then allowed most students to transfer to the morning half? SO the whole move was kind of wasted. Another "unintended consequence"! That's the type of action that is the problem.
Some of the comments below insist on turning this into a partisan conflict, it isn't, or shouldn't be. Some hint of stereotypical biases that I am not even going to spell out, but you know they're there too.
Aren't we a pathetic short sighted society. And righteous!
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Snowy on Oct 13, 2020 at 10:23 am
Pretty much everything sucks right now so the MAD folks just like everyone else are gonna have to put on their big boy/girl pants. I don't agree with the move of grade 8s to Wood Street but any move would have upset some group.
I feel this particular scenario is being used purely for political leverage by the opposition though if you follow along on Facebook. I'm not sure in what parallel universe it's a bad thing to try to distance kids and classes in a pandemic. I have kids at FH and they are doing half days and I accept that as a result of the pandemic. I accept that the kids (and parents) will have to work harder and different but at least everyone is alive and safe. This is not a vast Liberal conspiracy as much as the FB trolls will want you to believe.
This too shall pass.
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Health&Safety on Oct 13, 2020 at 8:22 am
It appears that the MAD students are being bullied in their current location. Even during a pandemic the mental health and bullying of these students should be considered inappropriate. From reading other articles the Minister had the option of moving MAD from Wood Street to The Guild before school started. Why set these kids up for an unnecessary situation in the first place during a pandemic? So these kids should be bullied in cramped spaces and carry on? Bullying can create long term mental issues. Move MAD to a healthier and safer space.
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Matthew on Oct 13, 2020 at 6:55 am
It did get 600 signatures. That's enough to change legislation in this town. It only took 500 to waste a bunch of paint on LGBT flag. Ironic too since we're ALL walking and driving over it.. too comical!
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JFraser on Oct 12, 2020 at 2:27 pm
I am getting frustrated with the lack of facts in these stories from the Star. What are the Safety requirements for a “school” and for COVID-19 under YG regulations? How many “students” signed the survey? How is a 14 year old in this story an appropriate critic of safety and policy against Minster McPhee and Dr Hanley? AND finally, PLEASE write the story of how the Yukon Party is fueling this debate for political gain and putting children on the front lines as spokespeople.
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Jake The Bosun on Oct 12, 2020 at 9:38 am
I suggest you read the article again! Carefully. The complaints from students go way beyond just crying about the change. It appears there are genuine issues in the current setting. The Minister is frustrated and her choices are limited, we understand that, but she shouldn't get upset, and if she does then maybe she is not suited for her responsibility?
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BnR on Oct 11, 2020 at 4:32 pm
Ditch the MAD program and send them to the mining school up at the college.
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Robert Austin on Oct 11, 2020 at 11:58 am
Why am I not surprised?
Really.
Once again, the Department of Education has dropped the proverbial football.
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Oya on Oct 11, 2020 at 11:52 am
How astute of Gwynne-Thompson in stating at such an early age, "I thought Tracy McPhee’s ability to not answer any of the questions was really impressive."
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head! Sad how it works, isn't it?
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yukon56 on Oct 11, 2020 at 11:51 am
Such a sense of entitlement when did Yukoners change? You want something, fund raise, create don't expect all to be handed to you.
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DMZ on Oct 10, 2020 at 10:26 pm
@Nathan Living, I agree, the minister could be reassuring students that this situation isn't permanent and the props/storage thing will be remedied as quickly as possible and whatever else she can think of that might resonate as even a gram of empathy. Instead, she seems to be doubling down on it and reluctant to even commit to returning to the school at any point in time. (Where did that come from?)
@Yukoner32, they're not adults. That's the point. These are important years for high school students. And it's not them labeling their feedback as protest. Maybe adults should learn to distinguish between fair critique and constructive input and "protest".
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Nathan Living on Oct 10, 2020 at 2:03 pm
This is a good life lesson for these students.
Will the Minister let them return to the Wood Street school or find a way to go with another agenda?
If the students think the GY deals in bad taste tell them to stay away from the city and council for they will find people supposedly working on their behalf are ....shall I say subversive and abusive and hell bent on their sketchy agendas.
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Al on Oct 10, 2020 at 12:13 pm
Reality check. We are in the middle of an upheaval. Life is not fair - nor will it ever be fair. Suck it up. Try working within the community rather than your own self interest - just for once try it. It can be very rewarding. Good things come to those who are patient and do not throwing temper tantrums because of some inconvenience...
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Jake The Bosun on Oct 10, 2020 at 8:12 am
I have been to their productions and visited the program in years past. It was a very positive and impressive experience. The students were intelligent and the MAD program gave them a challenge they needed.
Now, well, it's pretty apparent they are the lowest of the Ministers priorities. It was apparent on her radio interviews she didn't want to help keep it alive, too bad.
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Tara on Oct 10, 2020 at 7:26 am
I support these students and all that they are fighting for. To not recognize this unique program simply requires a unique space is beyond shameful . I am hopeful that these talented and developing artists are appreciated as we all as a community and culture need to appreciate the value these types of programs bring to all. Keep fighting students!
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Yukoner32 on Oct 9, 2020 at 8:10 pm
I'm sure it sucks being moved, but come on guys, life sucks for a lot of people right now. You will get your spot back I'm sure when the pandemic ends or we at least get some sense of normalcy back. Until then, you will have to do like many adults with jobs (which you will soon discover all about when you move away from home) and make the best of a bad situation. As for the adults encouraging them to protest, shame on you. Stop teaching kids to protest at the first sign of frustration. It should be used as a last resort or it will lose its effectiveness as a tool for change.
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Nathan Living on Oct 9, 2020 at 5:34 pm
This seems like TARFU military situation .
The Minister should perhaps say the props etc., will be safely stored and returning to Wood Street school after covid is one viable option, and if this option is used the Departnent of Education will make every effort to make the Wood Street school a viable permanent home for the MAD program.