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SOMEONE WILL BE THE NEXT PREMIER – The territorial political party leaders are seen at Thursday evening’s forum. From left to right: the Yukon Party’s Darrell Pasloski, NDP Leader Liz Hanson, Liberal Leader Sandy Silver, and Frank de Jong, the interim leader of the Green Party.

Leaders gather final time to make their case

It was standing-room only at the Yukon Inn Thursday evening for the final debate for Monday’s territorial election.

By Amy Kenny on November 4, 2016

It was standing-room only at the Yukon Inn Thursday evening for the final debate for Monday’s territorial election.

Roughly 150 people showed up to ask questions of the four party leaders: the Yukon Party’s Darrell Pasloski, NDP Leader Liz Hanson, Liberal Leader Sandy Silver, and Frank de Jong, the interim leader of the Green Party.

The format of the CBC-hosted event included rapid-fire rounds. Moderator Dave White reminded people to keep questions under 30 seconds, and candidates to keep their responses to a minute in length.

Questions came from Yukoners in the audience, and those listening at home (the event was broadcast on the radio and live-streamed online).

They ranged from the specific (funding for the Mae Bachur Animal Shelter and to the number of beds in the Whistle Bend extended care facility), to the social (addressing issues of homelessness and a living wage), to the abstract (what does the word “respect” mean to you and how have you shown it?).

Here are a few of the key issues discussed last night.

Health care

Hanson said health care can be tough for those in rural communities.

She noted pregnancy is often treated as an acute care situation because of the trouble associated with travelling to Whitehorse for birth. She said the territory needs to develop care when and where it’s needed. In the case of pregnancy, she said this includes funding midwifery.

Silver agreed with this, saying a Liberal government would look to support prenatal care including assisting with accommodations in Whitehorse in advance of birth. He also said a Liberal government would support in vitro fertilization for couples who want it.

de Jong pointed out that, where he lives, in Faro, people are subsidized when they need to drive into Whitehorse, and when they need accommodations in the city. He said he’d like to see bus service to get to and from the communities.

Pasloski said he’s proud of the growing population in the north, and noted his party has talked about supporting widwifery by way of a publicly-funded model.

Homelessness

“Housing is a human right,” Silver said.

He referenced his party’s housing action plan, which was arrived at with the input of 50 partners. Silver said it’s important to use the plan to move forward in addressing the issue of homelessness in the territory.

Between the Yukon’s small population and great service providers, he said the Yukon should be able to do better.

de Jong agreed.

“As soon as you have a safe place to live, then you start eating better, then you sleep better, you stay on your meds.

“You have a phone, you can look for jobs, you can get your life back together again,” he said, noting a person only needs a little bit of help to stay housed. The rest will hopefully grow from that.

Pasloski pointed to some of his party’s recent initiatives, including the new Salvation Army building on Fourth Avenue, something he said he was talking about five years ago, when no one else was.

Hanson said that, before the 2011 election, there were roughly a dozen studies done into homelessness in the territory, and more have been conducted since.

She said the NDP would work with First Nations, landlords, NGOs and more to address the issue.

Living wage gap

Pasloski said one of the ways the Yukon Party is focused on growing the economy is via the $100-million investment announced for retrofitting buildings.

He brought the question back to the issue of carbon tax, saying it’s something “that will take a tremendous amount of money out of everybody’s pocket.”

Hanson noted the $8 discrepancy between minimum wage in the territory, and the living wage in the territory, and how difficult that makes it for Yukoners.

“Minimum wage earners are not just high school kids,” she said. “Sixty per cent of those earning under $15 an hour are 25 or over. Thirty-five per cent are 40 or over.”

She said the NDP would raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Silver ticked off a list of items including affordable housing, reducing business taxes for corporate and small business, and promoting skills training. He said the Liberals would talk to the business community and NGOs to arrive at a solution.

de Jong said there needs to be a raised taxable exemption for the working poor, so they don’t have to start paying taxes as soon as they start earning. He also brought up the role of education.

“It used to be that a high school diploma would get you a good job. Now it takes post-secondary,” he said.

“So, a high school diploma’s always been without tuition and so we should also get rid of tuition at the college-level for starters.”

Carbon tax

There will be carbon pricing, Silver said, regardless of which party is voted in.

“Make sure you vote for one that has a plan when it comes to your money.”

He then said the Liberals are prepared to support the tax, but with a “northern consideration” that gives 100 per cent of the tax back to Yukoners.

By doing so, he said, the Yukon can keep pace with the rest of the world in a way that doesn’t negatively affect Yukon families.

“Taxes work,” said de Jong. “They send feedback loops to individuals and to businesses. And people can plan for the future if they know where the tax structure is going.”

He also pointed to options including off-grid living, electric cars, and wood-fired heating.

Pasloski stuck to his party’s position that it would continue to fight the carbon tax. He said the Yukon needs what it needs in terms of goods, and he has heard from businesses that the negative impact of the tax will be passed on to consumers.

“All these products come thousands of kilometres in a truck. We’re not going to reduce emissions because we can’t change our behaviour,” Pasloski argued, garnering a few groans from the audience.

Hanson said the NDP supports the tax, not because the federal government has said the country has to, but because Yukoners have a responsibility to the next generation.

She said her party plans to consult with business and First Nations to come up with a model that works for the North.

Whistle Bend

Hanson said Whistle Bend shouldn’t grow beyond 150 beds, and in fact, said 100 to 110 beds would be optimal.

She said one of the questions in rural communities is always, “Are you going to make us go to Whitehorse to die?”

Silver agreed he doesn’t want to be apologizing in 10 years because 300 beds located in Whitehorse have removed elders from their communities.

He said elders are vital to those communities and there needs to be a way to keep them there.

de Jong agreed there’s a need for this kind of care, but said Whistle Bend seems more like warehousing than sound urban design.

Pasloski didn’t address the question of expansion. He did say there’s an urgent need for the facility at the moment, as acute care beds in the hospital are being occupied by people who need long-term care.

First Nations relations

“We need to turn a page is the short answer to that question,” said Silver.

He reiterated the Liberal party platform promise to meet with Yukon chiefs within 30 days of forming government, and to hold regular meetings, and support First Nations government in bilateral agreements with federal government.

de Jong said he thinks the relationship between First Nations and the government has been “acrimonious” in recent years, and highlighted the Kaska Nation in his region, which doesn’t have self-government yet.

“Every passing day is a day lost in the lives of these people,” he said.

Pasloski said he could go on about partnerships, then named a few, including Supporting our Voices and Single Track to Success.

Hanson said there needs to be a mutual respect and co-management of the land and resources. She said every aspect of the NDP governance and policy focuses on reconciliation.

Comments (15)

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MJ on Nov 7, 2016 at 2:27 pm

First one to drive me to my polling station gets my vote...

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Tom Stevens on Nov 7, 2016 at 11:55 am

This election is like picking which STI you want more than the other. No matter which one you choose it is going to come with regrets.

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Groucho d'North on Nov 6, 2016 at 5:31 pm

Duane Gastant' Aucoin - All I ever hear from you is how the Yukon Party government did not agree with First Nation positions at meetings so the FNs took them to court. Is this thoughtful negotiation or strong arm tactics to get your way? It takes give and take on both sides of a negotiation for an outcome to be mutually beneficial. But if you resolve never to sit and negotiate, court is the only option, and isn't that what you did?
Time for self governing FNs to begin acting like governments.

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ProScience Greenie on Nov 6, 2016 at 3:36 pm

Having Frank de Jong as an MLA for the next 5 years would not be a bad thing. Not so much as a Green Party person but more because he would speak out with a strong voice for independent-minded Yukoners and raise a little hell fairly often.

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ProScience Greenie on Nov 6, 2016 at 3:27 pm

The debate was pretty staged but whatever. Still sitting on the fence mostly.

The YP wasn't all that bad but lost me when they abused the TFW program by bringing in so many from mostly just one country.

The Libs are not making me at all happy with the carbon sin tax and they do have a well concealed but very real authoritarian streak that historically can rear it's ugly head. They tend to like to govern more than represent which isn't very 'liberal'.

The NDP? Liz of INAC fame would make a good DM or director but never premier. And Sally and Skeeter and radioactive fear-mongering. OMG. Have to just say no to all that nonsense.

Gonna have to really study the candidates and platforms on this one and do one last 'sniff test' to see how far past the best before date the YP is and whether the Libs are already close due to the Ottawa connection. 24 hours to determine which party has the least offending scent I guess.

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Matt on Nov 6, 2016 at 2:27 pm

Dear candidates. Please stop knocking on my door, ringing my doorbell, leaving pamphlet after pamphlet in my door, on my door knob, in my mailbox and in my wiper, I go on YouTube and see Yukon ELECTION ads before every video, I try to read the news and I swear there isn't a single story that isn't about the election or a party issue. EVERYDAY, EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME. ELECTION ELECTION ELECTION. Yes I get it. If I have questions for you...I'll call you and ask. Constant hounding makes me not want to vote for any of you.

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Just Say'in on Nov 6, 2016 at 12:58 pm

We need to look at the total calculation on Carbon. Right now you can purchase Carbon Credits through the Chicago Carbon Exchange that is controlled by the Billionaires of the world. They consider these as offsetting credits from some other action or natural occurring Carbon Sync somewhere in the world.

Well we have one of the largest Carbon syncs in the world in our massive forests. If these offsetting carbon credits are taken into consideration then we are thousands of times negative on our carbon footprint. Add this to the fact we are almost 100% renewable energy in the Yukon and the highest penetration per capita in Canada and you will see why we should fight this.

Don't be sucked in by this lie.
Good for the YP, this is true representation at the federal level.

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just Say'in on Nov 6, 2016 at 12:56 pm

First of all a Carbon Tax raises every single thing not just the obvious as you have stated. Trucking companies will raise the freight on every single thing that comes here. Manufacturing costs go up by the same amount so everything that is produced goes up as well. Air travel will go up huge as it is by far the largest expense. It is not as simple as you think. Every business has to raise price's to cover costs. Wages will have to go up to cover these increases and that will be passed back to you as well.

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Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2016 at 5:48 am

Wow...never thought I'd ever see a photo of Hanson...smiling?
Did someone whisper in her ear that North over took South Korea?
My views on radical leftists are so well known, I will spare ya'll today.
One thing I do look forward to is next week, when here and in USofEh...is when all political sycophants can go back to their peasant lives and we can go back to the regular divisions of our fine citizens with less about these four elites selling snake oil.
We will still all be their subjects, they will still sodomize us via taxation and regulation, they will still feel we are "seeking" permission to live our lives, they...ALL of them will do just fine, why?
Do any of you know a struggling politician?
Ever see one getting food at our food bank?
Ever see one in the ER waiting with the peasants?
Ever see one outside in the cold, as that is there home?
In my view the most important one...
Ever see one live their actual life as they "tell" us we should?
May the best liar win.

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Lets face it land claims was great for Yukon First Nations and gave them their on Nov 5, 2016 at 4:17 pm

rights. Yukon First Nations are better off than most across Canada. This Federal government doesn't want land claims because it gives them no control over First Nations.

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Al Quonkquin on Nov 5, 2016 at 1:55 pm

I see that Sandy remembered that it's 'Poppy Time'!

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Duane Gastant' Aucoin on Nov 5, 2016 at 9:31 am

The Yukon Party batters Yukon First Nations all the time & the only time we seem to sit down with them in any meaningful way is when they force us to take them to court to protect our Final Agreements. Then Pasloski tries to sugar coat this horrible relationship by touting the side agreements with various First Nation governments that any government should be doing anyways. This divisive relationship is hurting everyone because it scares away development & hurts the economy. We need a government that is willing to work with us as equal partners and resolve any differences of interpretation & application of our Final Agreements so that we come to a common understanding that will benefit all Yukoners. If the Yukon Party gets back in then this battle will continue because Yukon First Nations will not back down when defending our Rights & Title. The only solution is to elect Anyone But Conservative...ABC Yukon!!!

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Roger dandy on Nov 4, 2016 at 8:56 pm

Pasloski is right, a carbon tax will do absolutely nothing to reduce emissions ... everyone 'groaning' over his statements drove to that meeting in a vehicle. Putting a save the peel sticker on your bumper, protesting on Facebook about the environment and paying 10 percent more for fuel doesn't save our planet, it just wastes everyone's money and makes you a hypocrite.

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It seem nothing new here just talk about a social programs on Nov 4, 2016 at 8:06 pm

All the business people in the Yukon, were to busy working, to create jobs and wealth to pay for these misguided tax programs and spending without any evidence of fact.
Cut taxes on the working poor not raise wages.
Whistle-bend senior project will be 78% full when it opens.
The doctors in the Yukon wanted 300 beds because you can't build more of these because the Yukon can afford one senior home at this level of care.
So our medical community is wrong and two parties are right.
Yukoner who do you trust - two parties that have no evidence to back up their claims or our doctors?
You have one party that has doesn't know where to take the Yukon.
You have one party that has a weak platform, which they themselves claim there is not much in it.
Then the Yukon has a the strongest growth in it's history
You have two parties pushing the Yukon into recession.

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Ms. Hanson made statements about the conservative not supporting on Nov 4, 2016 at 7:02 pm

land claims.
Who was the government in power when land claims were signed? Don't put out facts that are not true because I was there.
Second you did not support First Nations on behalf of the Federal Government for Yukon First Nations to get enough money to support their communities.
Again I was there.
How does an NDP tell voters to unlearn things in the past?
What is that?

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