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FIGHTING FOR A CAUSE – About 40 people gathered early Wednesday afternoon at the Healing Totem at the end of Main Street for the rally for a basic annual income.

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Senator Pat Duncan, Ulrike Wohlfarth Levins and Jane Wilkinson

It’s time for a basic annual income, rally-goers told

Yukoners, Canadians, need to push for a basic annual income for all Canadians, says Yukon Senator Pat Duncan.

By Chuck Tobin on September 16, 2021

Yukoners, Canadians, need to push for a basic annual income for all Canadians, says Yukon Senator Pat Duncan.

Duncan was among those who spoke at Wednesday afternoon’s rally in downtown Whitehorse organized by the Yukon Anti-Poverty Coalition.

Others who spoke included a couple of people who have lived in poverty, who have relied on the social system for income support but who detest having to go hat-in-hand to social agencies and bureaucrats “and beg” for support.

Duncan, an independent senator, is among 51 senators who wrote the prime minister last year about COVID-19 and the need for a minimum basic income.

When she was approached by Senator Kim Pate about signing the letter, the doors opened into the issue of poverty and the need for a basic annual income, Duncan told the estimated 40 people gathered around the totem pole along Front Street.

“Overwhelmingly, the reality that too many Canadian children and families live in poverty convinced me that a basic income guarantee is a sound policy option to change this reality,” said Duncan, who was the territory’s Liberal premier from 2000 to 2002.

Duncan said there are many issues with the social assistance program, such as penalizing those who work to get out of the system, clawing back any extra income earned and requiring ongoing reporting.

A basic income level for all Canadians would be unconditional, and does not require a person to be managed by the bureaucracy or have a caseworker for each decision, she said.

The senator told the gathering pilot projects have demonstrated that a basic income allows parents to stay home and care for their children or go back to school. It can provide time for other endeavours such as volunteer work.

Establishing the individual needs for a basic income could be done through the Canada Revenue Agency and the annual income tax submissions, she said.

By using the income tax system, said the senator, the same rules apply to everyone.

The programs would be universal, and everyone in Canada would be eligible.

They also addressed the concern that providing a basic income would encourage people to stay home and not go to work, but a pilot project in Ontario showed that is just not the case, she said.

Several of those attending the rally carried signs aimed at stopping poverty.

“Say no to poverty, yes to basic income,” read one sign.

“Basic Income is good for everyone.”

“Make poverty history – equal rights.”

Viola Papaquash and her Rising Sun singers performed both the opening and closing songs.

Some of the Yukon candidates in Monday’s federal election were at the rally.

MC Charlotte Hrenchuk, a co-chair of the anti-poverty coalition, shared a few thoughts.

The coalition, she said, believes a basic guaranteed income can make a substantial impact in the lives of many, including women, Indigenous communities, people of colour and people with disabilities.

Hrenchuk said a basic annual income is not about charity. Rather, it’s about human rights and freedoms to participate in the Yukon community fully and securely.

Ulrike Wohlfarth Levins shared her story of poverty with those in attendance.

She said the last five years have been hell, just like the hell before that.

Last year, said Wohlfarth Levins, both her parents passed away within 5 1/2 weeks of each other.

“In the past five years, if I would have had a basic annual income, I would have had more energy to take care of my parents,” she said.

Wohlfarth Levins said she would not have been evicted from two hotels. She would not have been evicted from the women’s shelter.

She said she would not have had to beg a social worker for support in securing accommodations.

It’s her good faith and hope for the future of her grandchildren that help her through, she said.

Wohlfarth Levins said even $400 or $500 a month would do incredible things.

“I would be able to buy shoes and underwear that do not have holes in them,” she said.

She said a basic annual income is extremely important to her.

Shawn Bruce of Old Crow told the gathering a basic income level is essential for the health of the community.

The Vuntut Gwitchin have always lived off the land and the river, he said.

Now, he said, they can’t fish the river like they used to. They can’t set their nets like they used to because the Department of Fisheries and Oceans won’t let them. They can’t hunt the moose and caribou like they used to.

They can’t feed their children like they used to, he said.

Bruce said a bag of flour in Old Crow is $95, and a bag of sugar goes for $100, and you can’t buy vegetables.

“I really do not want my children to go hungry,” he told the gathering. “We need to work together to make sure all your children do not go hungry.”

Jane Wilkinson said since losing her job three years and eight months ago, she’s been relying on the social support system.

First it was the loss of her job, and then the COVID-19 pandemic set in, she said.

Wilkinson said it can be humiliating to go through the system.

At one point, she said, she painted, “I need help” in big red letters on her window.

“I am here to tell you that it is a whole lot easier to fall through the cracks than you might think,” Wilkinson said.

The Yukon’s senator told the gathering the concept of a basic income level for Canadians is not new; that it goes back decades.

A basic income guarantee was referenced in the 1970 Royal Commission on the Status of Women, she pointed out.

Duncan noted that establishing a guaranteed livable income for all Canadians, including Indigenous people, was recommended in the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls Calls for Justice.

There was, she said, a pilot project carried out in Dauphin, Man., from 1974 to 1978.

It showed that there was an 8.5-per-cent decrease in hospitalizations.

Better health outcomes were realized when individuals had the certainty of income to purchase healthy foods, Duncan said.

She said a basic income level is not a magic pill that will cure all.

But it is a policy option that has been discussed and tentatively tried in Canada for quite some time, she said.

“Is it worth exploring to see if it would work in the Yukon and Canada. I believe it is.”

Comments (30)

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Hippo Crate on Sep 22, 2021 at 4:16 pm

@Juniper Jackson
For someone who complains incessantly about being poor, what say we claw back your UBI in the form of Old Age Security an the Canada Pension Plan.

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Juniper Jackson on Sep 22, 2021 at 12:26 pm

Basic Income will not eliminate welfare. It will be just another money cow for the indigents. The parasites that feed off their hosts. Basic income is just that. Food, roof, clothes, and probably enough for drugs and booze. The gov doesn't want them collecting forever, so, they won't live too long. BI isn't going to pay for the streaming, gaming, stereo, any fun perks, trips.. So, they will use their Basic income for those things, or steal them, and go back to welfare for their food, clothing, roof. A person who works is always going to work, always stand on their own two feet. A parasite is always going to be a parasite.

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Sarah Davison on Sep 21, 2021 at 9:53 am

Great idea. I vote Pat Duncan pays for it. Because I won't.

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drum on Sep 20, 2021 at 5:31 pm

Welfare is Welfare no matter what you call it - it is people who get money every month but do not work for it, They have housing, clothing, food etc. and taxpayers who work pay for it.

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My Opinion on Sep 18, 2021 at 7:46 pm

This Language is everywhere in Government, Welfare became Social assistance, less stigma ya know. Don't want any hurt feelings or low self esteem. How about the "under employed" there is a good one.

I think the "over taxed" should from here on out be called the "under appreciated".

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My Opinion on Sep 18, 2021 at 7:40 pm

Have you noticed how it is all about the Language.
Years ago it was UI (unemployment insurance ) but that was degrading somehow, so they changed it to EI (employment insurance). Tell me how that works? That is playing fast and loose with the English language, Fake Statements.

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North_of_60 on Sep 18, 2021 at 1:19 pm

“You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
― Adrian Rogers

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Comrade on Sep 17, 2021 at 8:42 pm

Attention Liberals, and NDP’ers. Socialism works only until you run out of spending other people’s money.

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Nathan Living on Sep 17, 2021 at 5:14 pm

I agree with yukongirl.
Why should hardworking highly taxed people have to support people who get a free ride through a guaranteed income.

If people want social assistance or a guaranteed income they have to at least try to be productive and better themselves. I think we need better models and programs to ensure we do not give away money the government really does not have.
We have to develop an economy and tax base that pays the bills before being overly generous to new age programs.

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yukongirl on Sep 17, 2021 at 3:19 pm

In the past 10 years alone, my family has paid in over $500K in income tax. That comes from a lot of work and sacrifice on both the part of my husband and I. He works in mining and misses half of our children's lives. Do anyone really think he wants to pay for someone who doesn't want to work? He definitely does not.

We pay enough in taxes. This plan of a basic income funded from taxpayers would be stealing from my children who I am working for. I budget for their RRSPs because I want them to be able to start a life after college and not be mired down in student loans until they are 35.

Let them fundraise for this basic income and see how well that goes. Yukoners are generous toward those in need. I personally cannot see past this being a handout for those who do not want to work for their money and just want more of mine.

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Rick on Sep 17, 2021 at 2:28 pm

Actually I cheated... I rounded up just to make the supporters feel good. The reality was .1% (yup that is 1/10th of 1%). Sure is a huge majority ! I suspect the Lieberals here will just turn themselves inside out to accommodate their wishes, of course at the end of pointed spear from their trustworthy soul mates the No Dam Party.

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JR on Sep 17, 2021 at 1:05 pm

Sounds expensive.... for those of us who work for a living. There is no excuse for not having a job in the Yukon today. There are jobs everywhere for skilled and unskilled people. You can not make it too easy for people or we will be paying for them forever.

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free money for all! on Sep 17, 2021 at 12:07 pm

Clearly no one here understands how such a program would work...

If implemented it would be run through the CRA, basically as an extension of, and ideally streamlined with, the federal income tax program. Everyone already gets the basic tax amount ($11k and change), and many people get an annual refund cheque, and/or periodic GST rebate cheques, and probably any number of other government cheques in the mail...this would essentially be a beefed up version of the same thing.

If universal basic income were to replace welfare/social assistance there is a real possibility that it would REDUCE federal spending on government accountants and bureaucrats and etc. (though probably wishful thinking, leave it to government to figure out how to spend more money than necessary...).

Show me someone who would be encouraged to avoid working due to receiving a few thousand dollars a year from the government (which they/we all would continue to receive whether otherwise employed or not), and I will show you someone who isn't/wouldn't be working regardless...there will always be people with problems, and plenty of straight-up deadbeats out there, whose existence is not contingent on any government program...

Putting money in the pockets of all leads to more spending, leads to more economic activity, leads to (the opportunity for) wealth and prosperity for all...isn't that the classically conservative notion? I'm not sure there is any logical argument for lower income tax that doesn't also apply to a universal basic income.

I'm not saying that Canada should go ahead and do it tomorrow, but only that it is very much a valid idea that is worth investigating. Comments from the peanut gallery that are based on complete ignorance get in the way of what could be an intelligent discussion...

Now, let's see how many thumbs down I can get!

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More debt = higher cost of living on Sep 17, 2021 at 9:22 am

This is ridiculous. More government spending leads to more debt (and they can barely finance the debts they already have) which will debase our currency further (this is actually what inflation is) and the cost of everything will continue to go up as a symptom of inflation. What we actually need to make life more affordable is less government. More oversight into the use of our public funds (especially when Alberta has 300 ICU beds and their health system is failing under that but their population is in the millions, where did all the health spending go???).

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Groucho d'North on Sep 17, 2021 at 8:51 am

What's the reward for hard work? You pay more taxes.
What's the reward for living on pogy? You get more tax money.

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What am I missine on Sep 17, 2021 at 7:24 am

@My Opinion, I totally agree with you. Duncan's comment of "The senator told the gathering pilot projects have demonstrated that a basic income allows parents to stay home and care for their children or go back to school." The primary purpose of the Child Care Subsidy program is to enable families to obtain and retain employment, or the skills necessary to obtain employment, with the ultimate goal being to break the cycle of poverty. Child care is to be considered an on-going benefit to support the family’s efforts to obtain or maintain self-sufficiency. So which is it? As usual, the Lieberals are talking out of both sides of their mouths.

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jack on Sep 17, 2021 at 3:36 am

A basic annual income is already guaranteed with every job you work. Why turn earning taxpayers into slaves for the sake of buying votes?

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bonanzajoe on Sep 16, 2021 at 9:29 pm

I can see all the welfare bums revving up for Monday's election to vote for the Liberals socialist plan. Wow a basic income and we don't even have to work for it. Just died and gone to heaven. But, what Duncan and the other Lieberals don't tell us is how they are going to get all this money, since most people aren't working. Karl Marx would be proud if he wasn't roasting in - well, it's not in heaven.

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My Opinion on Sep 16, 2021 at 6:33 pm

Money for Votes. Shouldn't be legal.

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Joe on Sep 16, 2021 at 5:07 pm

And Pat Duncan should lead by example, forego senator pay in lieu of basic income. Now that would be a sign of leadership!

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Wilf Carter on Sep 16, 2021 at 4:50 pm

Basic annual will not work because a lot will get eaten up in managing it.
Canada and Yukon used to have lots of funds to deal with this type of situation.
Annual income is not the problem. We have four levels of government doing the same thing each having their own staff.
Way to many bosses.

We have housing rental support program from the Feds, social housing from 3 levels of government in Yukon, municipal tax breaks etc.
We need one administration of the program for all Yukoners and the funds available would go by 48% or more solving the funding problem.
Creating another administration does nothing for people in need.
Than we have the Federal government giving billions to support other people in other countries before supporting Canadians first.

We need to put money into home care, housing land development, training, mental health, child development, community support, education, and stop illegal immigration. Look after our own first.

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My Opinion on Sep 16, 2021 at 4:47 pm

Every Food truck at Shipyards park was looking for help. Average age in those trucks was old.

Where are all the young people, other then the hard working immigrants, there are very few young people working anywhere. Look around you will be shocked. They are at home in their basements Gaming all night or checking out their status on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tic Tok. Social Media has destroyed our young people.

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My Opinion on Sep 16, 2021 at 4:41 pm

So what will this say to the hard working people that are struggling. Are they fools for working? This is a terribly slippery slope. Will all working people get this money too? I doubt it.

This statement below by our Senator says it all.
"The senator told the gathering pilot projects have demonstrated that a basic income allows parents to stay home and care for their children or go back to school. It can provide time for other endeavours such as volunteer work."

So a basic income allows a parent to stay home and raise their kids. A luxury the working cannot afford, no matter what group you are in.
It can provide time for them to Volunteer???? Good lord, if they aren't working they should have tons of time, am I missing something? It is the working that have no time. This is just crazy.

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Bingo on Sep 16, 2021 at 4:28 pm

40 people gathered today, mid afternoon when employers are desperate for workers. There are pages and pages of job advertisements. So to me if you want a basic income…GET A JOB!

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Josey Wales on Sep 16, 2021 at 4:04 pm

Yeah....about that...
Pat Duncan yet another liberal.
Move to China if you love the collective, hate making your own decisions.
This plandemic has been very revealing, especially when one chugs not the cherry Kool Aid, or avoided the epic gaslighting.

And after all this time in public school, I can understand why the kids are so, so dumb...the alleged adults are acting.
State actors act, act like they are here for you and your needs... absolutely nothing could be further from the truth.
Anyone remember the attempt at in secret...parkifying our Yukon?
She speaks as many fans her ilk, with a forked tongue and her words are venom.

But glad the commies met up and loved each other, as they do that best.

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JSM on Sep 16, 2021 at 3:54 pm

More handouts make people rely on handouts. Getting a job, even if it's serving burgers or greeting people at doors is the one true UBI. Crazy to me that people will go on SA for years. People are hiring all throughout the city. Lazy Liberals and their UBI Pipe dreams. Give it a rest.

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dick on Sep 16, 2021 at 3:22 pm

As I said in previous post we get it now. Just need it spread out better. About 40,000 grand for every man women and child. We are a welfare state already folks.

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Bud McGee on Sep 16, 2021 at 2:47 pm

If there is one thing we have learned over the Pandemic, it is that Government really loves control. They get off on controlling our lives and making us jump through hoops.

Imagine how horrible it would get if we depended on the Government for our Basic Income to eat and put a roof over our heads? Don't take the fifth booster shot? They'll reduce your government-supplied rations.

Better get in line or else no weed and booze money!

Then all these government-dependent unemployed thugs will go out and harass honest hard-working folks that are protesting for their rights and freedoms. We are seeing that now with unemployed Antifa thugs showing up at Freedom Rallies in BC and Alberta being violent and looking for conflict.

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Dave on Sep 16, 2021 at 2:43 pm

Pat, your Liberal government is putting Canada a further 3 billion into debt every week. Stop your runaway uncontrolled government spending already, you’re impoverishing future generations with debt.

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TMYK on Sep 16, 2021 at 2:21 pm

Duncan is not an Independent Senator. She's an ex Liberal Premier of the Yukon and was vetted by an "independent" body made up of Liberal Party executive members and Sandy Silver's office. No matter how much they try to spin it none of the Liberal appointed senators are independent.

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