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CONSTRUCTION CEASED– Mike Mickey had been trying to get his property near Valleyview approved for residential construction in hopes that it could be the location for the future continuing care facility. He halted construction this week after media reports about internal documents about the location selection for the facility.

‘It doesn’t make sense they wouldn’t be on board’

When Mike Mickey heard a CBC radio news report Tuesday morning, he halted all construction work that had been taking place at his property on the former Upper Tank Farm near Valleyview.

By Aimee O'Connor on July 17, 2015

When Mike Mickey heard a CBC radio news report Tuesday morning, he halted all construction work that had been taking place at his property on the former Upper Tank Farm near Valleyview.

The news organization had reported on some internal Yukon government documents a local woman had showed it. They had the potential to raise doubts about Whistle Bend being the location for the future continuing care facility.

It has been an uphill battle for Mickey – cleaning soil that has been deeply tainted with the reputation of being contaminated from the former fuel that was stored onsite.

Since acquiring the land from White Pass in 1996, however, Mickey had hopes that he could someday turn it into a residential centre.

After hearing word in 2013 that there were funds to be made available for the construction of a continuing care facility in Whitehorse, Mickey had his eureka moment.

He started to get to work – the 140-acre land would need to be deemed “clean” for anything to be built on it. His intent was to donate a piece of the land to the government for the continuing care facility.

In an interview today, he noted that Premier Darrell Pasloski had supported the idea of building the continuing care facility on Mickey’s tank farm site.

What he didn’t know until this week was that the government officials on the location selection committee had decided on Whistle Bend much earlier than he’d been aware of.

After filing an access to information request in April of this year, Whitehorse resident Tamara Goeppel seized a hefty pile of internal documents that chronicle the year or so leading up to the official selection of Whistle Bend as the future home for the planned 150-bed continuing care facility. On April 9, 2014, Cynthia Tucker, an assistant deputy minister in the Department of Highways and Public Works, wrote an email memo to public works manager Anwar Rizvi that detailed “very complex environmental comments” about the tank farm site.

Tucker noted that at that point, the land was still considered a designated contaminated site. The former Liberal cabinet minister advised that the government might not want to risk taking on a site that hasn’t officially been signed off on as no longer contaminated.

Rizvi responded to Tucker an hour later, stating, “It will be prudent not to include this site in our study.”

This email included another important piece of information – a note that he had received the geotechnical report for four properties that were being considered.

The report prepared by the property management division of Highways and Public Works put Porter Creek at the top, then Riverdale, followed by Copper Ridge and finally, Whistle Bend.

“The (report) indicates that Whistle Bend is the most unfavourable site due to high silt contents, water table and require frost heaving,” Rizvi wrote.

“While these are the negatives, the positive part is the overall master plan where the new Continuing Care Facility is will enjoy a good mix of commercial and residential mix right next to an elementary school.”

The same day of Tucker’s and Rizvi’s correspondence, senior management gave instructions to strike Porter Creek, Riverdale and Copper Ridge off of the possible locations list.

It is unclear from the emails and reports as to why those three locations were eliminated.

On April 24, 2014, Cathy Morton-Bielz, a Health and Social Services assistant deputy minister, indicated she would like to see information paired with reasons as to why the location selection committee wasn’t including certain sites.

In the ATIPP documents provided by Goeppel, there is no response to that particular email nor any explanation as to why any sites were ruled out.

“Whistle Bend was indeed ranked behind other sites in terms of geotechnical factors,” Ben Horowitz, a Highways and Public Works spokesperson, told the Star early this afternoon.

“Even though Whistle Bend may have had higher site and foundation costs compared to the Porter Creek site, for example, that difference in cost was estimated to be less than one per cent of the overall cost of construction for the entire project.”

Horowitz also noted that geotechnical considerations represented just one of more than 10 “essential evaluation criteria” that came about during the location analysis.

“It doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t be on board with this property,” Mickey said this morning.

He provided the Star with copies of an EMB report that indicates that the property had no geotechnical concerns or anticipated foundation problems, unlike Whistle Bend.

In regards to the potential for “contamination,” Mickey provided the government with a letter from the Department of Environment from November 2014 .

It stated the portion of land he wanted to donate for the care facility was finally eligible for a certificate of compliance – indicating that the land would officially be ready for residential construction by the end of January 2015.

This information, of course, was too late – the government had announced its official selection of Whistle Bend for the continuing care facility on Dec. 18.

Pasloski addressed questions from reporters concerning the facility on Thursday.

The picking of Whistle Bend as the future home for the facility, Pasloski said, was due to its size and a pressing need to get the project moving.

Asked why other parcels of land were dismissed as possible locations despite their expandable size, Pasloski said it came down to that “pressing need.”

If the government had waited to determine whether areas like the tank farm could have been deemed appropriate sites for the facility, he said, it would have added another year or two to the project.

But, from Mickey’s documents proving the land could have been developed as of January, it appears as though that tight timeline would have only been pushed back a couple of months.

“This should have been Whistle Bend,” Mickey said, gesturing behind him to the giant mountains of dirt on the property.

Pasloski said he could not comment as to when Mickey was formally notified that his site was no longer being considered as a location for the facility.

“My concern based on the options that I had was that we needed to get that process moving,” he said in an interview this morning from St. John’s.

Although Horowitz did not have the exact dates at hand as to when Mickey may have been told his site was scratched, he did confirm that Mickey was notified sometime after the decision was made to proceed with Whistle Bend.

Horowitz added that the tank farm location was the only site considered that was not already owned by the Yukon government or the City of Whitehorse.

Comments (20)

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Let's get the real smells and contamaintion on Jul 22, 2015 at 10:38 am

This developer has not had control or owned this site since 1996. There was another group involved.
Of course the Premier is going to support any potential site but the facts speak for themselves.
Just does not add up because the site has been in the news a lot over the months. The developer had to know the site was already selected months and months before this week.

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Sewage smell on Jul 22, 2015 at 10:13 am

North of 60 it is to bad you don't understand the facts because the chance of getting any smell is up to 5% or less because of the wind flow and how much actual smell comes from lagoons. There must be something wrong with your smeller!

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Apache on Jul 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm

"After hearing word in 2013 that there were funds to be made available for the construction of a continuing care facility in Whitehorse, Mickey had his eureka moment.

He started to get to work – the 140-acre land would need to be deemed “clean” for anything to be built on it. His intent was to donate a piece of the land to the government for the continuing care facility."

How can anyone even get begin believe this?
Local businessmen don't just altruistically donate a parcel of land to YG.

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BnR I feel for people that don't understand on Jul 20, 2015 at 9:04 pm

BnR I feel for people who don't understand. Have you read the facts before making your statements?
By your response you did not so your comments have no merit.
Just so you know, I have had work done on that site and have some understanding of it.
Finally this group who owns it is trying to develop one piece at at time so it makes economic reasonable sense to development and I wish them good luck because it is a great project with lots of opportunity.

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Big Bad Developer on Jul 20, 2015 at 8:00 pm

Never did I think I would post a comment. But then again, never did I think I would have to discuss matters with the media or public in order to carry on. Seems my life changed a bit this past week so here is an answer to the two people choosing to call me out by name:

To "mr mickey can you answer my questions" - Absolutely I can but given you've already made up your mind to the answers, it's likely best you visit YG environment to get straightened out, or give some credible backing to your seemingly ludicrous concerns

To Max Mack, Again, under the cloak of some YN chat room you call me out. You know the name, surely you can find me and discuss matters face to face.

And to "Commentator", I read your comment two ways so not sure what your point was. I ABSOLUTELY was not in support of the $8m complex. Spend 1/4 of that in a more central area and spread the rest amongst the other fields improvements and then, when there is $4m left over, I should hope Sport Yukon, or anyone but gov't, could find a good use.

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BnR on Jul 20, 2015 at 4:16 pm

Wilf my son, your comments continue to amuse.
What engineering would have to be re-done? Besides some preliminary geotechnical work to ensure site suitability, there has been no engineering since no design from any of the three design teams has been accepted. No design team is going to have proceeded with any engineering on preliminary concept work. I still think this site is probably the best long term, but to say that it can't be changed at this point demonstrates your inexperience with the design and construction process.

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north_of_60 on Jul 19, 2015 at 10:19 am

The foul smell from Wasteland Bend isn't just from the nearby sewage lagoons.

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Max Mack on Jul 18, 2015 at 9:20 pm

Mike Mickey "donate" land? One of these things does not look like the other . . .

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Yukon 56 on Jul 18, 2015 at 6:20 pm

If properly done the hydrocarbons will leave the soil not rocket science.

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Yukon 56 on Jul 18, 2015 at 6:17 pm

While I feel this entire government is tainted..there is really something smelly fishy about this.. follow the money? Maybe.. I think there is something else behind the government's heavy handed decision. I just can't even conjecture what it might be. Someone else that writes in the forum's has said.. the truth will out.. I hope so

June, is there even a comment or just verbiage. Why bother.

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Mr. Mickey can you answer some questions for me. on Jul 18, 2015 at 5:08 pm

Have you owned the site since 1996? Was a former Canadian Tire dealer a partner?
What part of the site was certified to be able to build residential on?
The reason for this question is none of that site was certified to build residential on.
Who certified it under what protocols?
If it was certified, what are the building restrictions that the protocols call for to make sure the residential units are safe from contaminent leeching back into the residential buildings?
What does certification call for in design and construction to mitigate the containment harming residential residents?
How much would this containment site cost to up grade the senior care center by construction costs? 5 or 10% or more.
Because of this containment this site costs are going to be much higher!
So this would eliminate your site totally.
So why make a statement without all the facts.
I know this site fairly well and engineers who have worked on it and you know them too.
So why make all the noise for nothing?

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All negative talk creating so such hot air on Jul 18, 2015 at 2:34 pm

All negative talk creating so much hot air. O where has common sense a long time ago and far away.

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Just Sayin' on Jul 18, 2015 at 2:25 pm

The PAH's and residual metals are tested for through external firms. People are exposed to more carcinogens when they pump their own fuel, eat burnt steak in comparison to the contamination left on this site. As long as the contamination of the site is below guidelines then it would have been an ideal place to build a facility.

Alas, the government has been trying for months now to put something at Whistle Bend and the real question is why? Why the 8 million dollar soccer field for 1000 people? Why is there a seniors complex being built so far away from other facilities? Does the Government not realize building at Whistle Bend will increase costs to the COW such as busing for the seniors. What makes more sense transporting people from Whistle Bend to CGC or transporting them from the tank farm to CGS, heck some of them could possibly walk if they feel up to it!

I am so disappointed in this Government. From the shi**y chip-seal on the Alaska Highway, to its handling of the mines which go belly up. The Yukon Government are a bunch of obligatory intracellular parasites who represent the needs of themselves before those who elected you. Shame on you for putting your personal agenda's before what is the best for the citizens of the Yukon! Enjoy your time in office because it won't last long.

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Groucho d'North on Jul 18, 2015 at 9:15 am

I can imagine the wailing that a proposal to build the continuing care facility on that plot of land would generate. The possibility of carcinogens laying in the sub-surface which would cause all kinds of anticipated illness and problems. Forget what testing would display regarding its safety, it would be a whipping post for decades. It would be the trigger for all manners of public angst and fretting and quite probably lawsuits.
Look at the cost to taxpayers that one person in Closeleigh Manor has been responsible for, now multiply that many, many times.
Sorry Mr. Mickey, while it may be a suitable location, public imagination and misinformation about its safety needs to be addressed first, but it will happen. Look how many have already forgotten about the industry and associated pollution that took place on the old Motorways property where the new old-folks home is being constructed.

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Commentor on Jul 18, 2015 at 8:57 am

C'mon Mike you don't really expect something from these cabal of fools to make sense do you? Trying to shove an 8 million dollar soccer field on an unsuspecting public when the fields we have are not utilized for this 2 month sport. The fields I check out are in mint condition and even the pros want natural grass to prevent injury.
Decisions like your situation and the soccer field attempt leave little wonder.

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Lets put it on top of a mountain on Jul 18, 2015 at 8:56 am

This is childish behavior over a site. It's picked get on with the business of building it.
Moving it means re-engineering the project and holding it up for 2 or more years.
This site does meet the criteria for this type of project which is close to hospital or in a residential area close to school is great.

Build it. Seniors are waiting. This talk is causing anxiety for people who need this service.
Stop thinking what you want but of the seniors who are in need of the services.

Wilf Carter

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common sense on Jul 18, 2015 at 12:22 am

Whistle Bend or the Tank Farm? I'd go with the tank farm. Closer to town, no crappy smell, across from the Canada Games centre for programming. I have 2 elderly parents and trust me, they'd rather die than go to Old Age Prison at Whistle Bend. Stop making deals for your buddies YP--leave a legacy for our seniors and not a negative 300 unit disaster in Whistle Bend. Give Mr. Mickey a chance. You might find YP popularity goes WAY up if you put this important facility in the right place.

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June Jackson on Jul 17, 2015 at 10:26 pm

While I feel this entire government is tainted..there is really something smelly fishy about this.. follow the money? maybe.. I think there is something else behind the government's heavy handed decision. I just can't even conjecture what it might be. Someone else that writes in the forum's has said.. the truth will out.. I hope so.

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Yukon 56 on Jul 17, 2015 at 8:07 pm

Keep at it Mike, mother nature will clean the soil if managed properly

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98er on Jul 17, 2015 at 6:51 pm

He was just going to give the land to YG? Say what?
Ok, is it just me, or is is whole thing starting to take on a distinctly foul odour? It may well be that Whistle Bend is the most logical, but the more people seem to dig into this, the stinkier it gets.

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