Whitehorse Daily Star

Ideas for Riverdale include wider bridge lanes

Riverdale could have a very different look if the proposals in a draft plan for the neighbourhood go ahead.

By Stephanie Waddell on June 3, 2009

Riverdale could have a very different look if the proposals in a draft plan for the neighbourhood go ahead.

The draft 32-page Riverdale Neighbourhood Plan was presented to residents of the neighbourhood last week at a public meeting held at F.H. Collins Secondary School.

As consultants Kobayashi and Zedda Architects continue working on the final plan based on input from that meeting, Riverdale Community Association president Doug MacLean says he's pleased with the ideas coming out of the plans.

It's a proposal which starts with wider lanes at the Robert Campbell Bridge leading into the neighbourhood from the downtown area.

"In its current form, it acts as a bottleneck to traffic during peak hours and represents a safety hazard for cyclists commuting in traffic," notes the draft.

"Given the proximity of vehicular traffic on the road, many cyclists opt to use the pedestrian walkway, which given its width, creates a conflict between cyclist and pedestrian foot traffic."

The plan suggests widening the bridge to accommodate a new bike lane that would be seperate from vehicles.

"Improved cycling/pedestrian conditions may encourage more alternate forms of commuting, thereby reducing automobile traffic congestion even further," the plan states.

The plan moves on to suggest a number of ways to improve the traffic coming in and out of the area, inducing the addition of a roundabout at Nisutlin Drive and Lewes Boulevard near the Super A grocery store.

As MacLean pointed out, that would make it easier for those trying to turn left off of Nisutlin onto Lewes, a manoeuver that can be very time-consuming during the morning and late afternoon rush periods.

The main boulevard into the neighbourhood would be in from some major changes. A higher densification is proposed in the area of Nisutlin in an effort to move away from the current look that has buildings set back far from the street "lacking street appeal and are a by-product of a 1960s zoning mentality where sprawling parking lots took front and centre."

It's suggested that shifting parking to the rear, along with the addition of benches and such, landscaping and lighting would increase the use of the area and promote pedestrian use.

"It'll change the look for the better," MacLean said.

Increasing the density there would revitalize the area and save the greenbelt, he added.

MacLean was also pleased with the concept of a commons area and community garden for the neighbourhood.

The commons would be located behind Christ the King Elementary and Vanier Catholic Secondary Schools, which are currently often used as local hangouts.

The plan would see the area connect the two sports fields in the area, creating a site for watching games as well as having a playground, picnic area, community garden and event space for the neighbourhood.

"It's something that could really bloom," MacLean said with a laugh.

He's already heard from someone at Macaulay Lodge that seniors would likely make good use of the area.

The plan also proposes developing better connections and trail improvements through the neighbourhood and includes the results of two surveys done with residents.

While some residents told planners they want to be able to keep chickens in their backyard, as the plan notes, city bylaws would have to be changed for that to happen.

"Bylaws could be amended to ensure a sanitary living environment and a maximum number of chickens, decreasing disturbance and issues in an urban environment," reads the plan.

There's no set date for the final report to be released, but MacLean noted it will likely be "sooner than later."

In the meantime, MacLean said, the community association will continue its efforts to start work on some of the proposals, getting set for things like landscaping along Lewes Boulevard from Nisutlin Drive to the end of the street at Grey Mountain Primary School.

"We've shown we can get things done," he said of implementing the final plan once it's complete, citing other projects the group has done in the past.

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jack malone on Jun 13, 2009 at 7:03 am

Hey - Francias, Arn and Patricia: your comments about the proposed roundabout at the Super A intersection are goofy. Although I should expect such comments from Francias [sic] and Arn. The roundabout at the SS Klondike is great - it permits traffic to flow smoothly and efficiently without any traffic lights. I don't think that the problem is roundabouts - but perhaps people who don't understand the concept of a roundabout - eh, Francias, Arn and Patricia. Really it is not that difficult to learn - give it a chance and quit whining (as usual).

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Francias Pillman on Jun 12, 2009 at 11:56 am

And the fakest comment of the year goes to SUE. You dont even sound like a person. Please take your toronto dreams out of this town.

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Patricia Nowell on Jun 12, 2009 at 5:42 am

Another round about. What a waste of money. The one in Granger doesnt even work well. Lots of people still drive through like it isnt even there. Now they are thinking of putting lights back in. Just wasting more tax payers money. I hope they dont put in the round about or make a middle turning lane like on 4th Ave. Half the people in town dont even use it and in the winter the street gets covered in snow and then know one uses them. Stop wasting tax payers money.

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Sue on Jun 10, 2009 at 11:25 am

What a great idea! Finally. Educated and thoughtfully planned communites. Yes please to the larger bridge. Perhaps a middle turning lane up Lewes would be good too, like on 4th, for all those making turns into the condo's & apartments. Traffic circles are fabulous ideas, make them bigger though, the one by the SS Klondike is much too small. How about making the first part of Lewes a double lane (in the summer) while your at it... its very wide as it is and newcommers are often confused on where to drive - a tourist tried to pass me once on Lewes thnking it was a double lane. I understand however the wideness is great for the snowplows in the winter! Thanks for the great vision and planning. Keep it up for all areas in Whitehorse. We sure do need alot of community makeovers & upgrades - how about planning more infrastructure, like plumbing, in all new subdivisions such as Whitehorse Copper... down the line Whitehorse will have regretted that, kind of like Takhini north. We need less fumbles from the get-go.

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Annika on Jun 10, 2009 at 11:04 am

"A roundabout at super a? These people should be fired for coming up with such ridiculous ideas. Look at grangers roundabout. the drivers in this town are already too confused going in a straight line, add this and its brain overload." I agree with this person one hundred percent. This would create a bottleneck there instead of at the bridge! Ridiculous.

Also: Chickens? Are they SERIOUS??? I mean come on. Chickens are loud and annoying, they would keep the neighbourhood up, and why does anyone living in a city need chickens? If you want to keep farm animals, move to a farm!!

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jonathon stick on Jun 9, 2009 at 11:45 am

We need a bike lane so that those damn cyclists that hog the road don't get hit. also i am in support of a round about at super A, but you will have to educatie those 95 percent of bad drivers that don't know how to use it

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Arn Anderson on Jun 4, 2009 at 9:07 am

A roundabout for Nistulin Drive? Lemme guess a local or important friend of an politician couldnt get to Timmys in the morning because he was backed up in traffic. Morning and late afternoon rushes? Gimme a break, this whole town doesnt work, its a constant automobile parade from 7am till 7pm in this town, oh wait, everyone works nights. pfffftt.

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Francias Pillman on Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 am

A roundabout at super a? These people should be fired for coming up with such ridiculous ideas. Look at grangers roundabout. the drivers in this town are already too confused going in a straight line, add this and its brain overload.

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Riverdale Girl on Jun 3, 2009 at 9:09 am

I like this plan! The bridge has needed wider lanes and a cycling lane for a long time! I would love ot be able to drive across without worrying about taking out a bicycle. Hey, while we are beautifying the neighbourhood, let's remove that battered car from in front of the bowling alley that has been there for 6 months - oh and clean up those apartment buildings between Super A and the Leisure on Lewes complex

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