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HEAVY INTEREST – More than 60 people attended last night's meeting on the roadside hunting issue at the Kwanlin Dün Cultural Centre. Gord Zealand, Bruce Bennett, Harvey Jessup below left-right.

Hunters, viewers politely exchange firm stances

The division between avid bear hunters and those who want to ban roadside hunting continued Tuesday night, just as it has for more than a decade.

By Chuck Tobin on April 16, 2014

The division between avid bear hunters and those who want to ban roadside hunting continued Tuesday night, just as it has for more than a decade.

The discussion was courteous but pointed during the two-hour public meeting hosted by the Yukon Fish and Wildlife Management Board.

It was difficult to determine which side was more represented, though a straw poll early in the evening suggested the 60-plus people in the room were split somewhere around 50-50.

The same arguments that have been on the record for years were repeated:

• PRO-HUNTING – Hunters have rights that need to be protected, and there is nothing disgusting nor wrong with shooting bears from the side of the road to bring home meat.

For some, including a couple of hunters who addressed the audience last night, roadside hunting is the only means they have because they can't afford boats and ATVs and all the gear needed to get into the deep woods.

Bear blood is not running in ditches. There's no carnage out there.

Rather, the number of conflicts between hunters and wildlife viewing opportunities is so miniscule that it almost doesn't exist, and certainly does not require any changes to current hunting regulations.

"I think if we want to be able to go out hunting for food, we should be able to go,” said a member of the audience. "The only reason I am here tonight is because I want that opportunity.”

• PRO-VIEWING – There is more value to bears than just meat in the freezer or rugs on the floor.

They provide wildlife viewing opportunities for not only the thousands of tourists who visit the Yukon to see bears, but for regular Yukon families who simply want to take a drive in the evening with their kids.

Visitors generate a substantial amount of income for many Yukoners who depend on the tourism industry for a livelihood.

Surely, the sporting hunter doesn't find satisfaction shooting an unsuspecting animal grazing quietly in the ditch. It's not too much to ask to have certain stretches of highways known for their bear sightings to be off-limits.

"I believe that wildlife viewing and hunting on the highways is incompatible because the bears should be able to come to the highway without being shot,” said another member of the audience.

"I would like to see a one-kilometre ban on hunting on any numbered highways.”

Harvey Jessup, chair of the wildlife management board, explained the background that led to the creation of a working group last year which was charged with examining the issue and providing the board with recommendations to consider.

While the working group has already undertaken research and has met with First Nations and local renewable resource councils to discuss the matter, last night's meeting was an opportunity to hear from the public in general, Jessup said.

He said the board will have an on-line survey about the question available on its website in a couple of days.

It's planning to wrap up the consultation process by May 15 and provide a recommendation or recommendations to the wildlife management board at its meeting in June, he said.

Jessup emphasized that should the board decide to advance a change in Wildlife Act regulations as a result of the working group's recommendation, a whole new round of public consultation would be required.

He also emphasized the law that governs the Yukon, and is protected by the Constitution of Canada, says that rights to wildlife viewing opportunities are of equal value to hunting rights.

There was a challenge last night to the appropriateness of having the First Nations involved in a discussion that will not affect their aboriginal rights to hunt from the road, one way or the other.

It was suggested that if there's a ban on hunting bears from the roadside, it could spring open the door to further prohibitions on hunting other wildlife.

Bruce Bennett, Environment Yukon's former wildlife viewing biologist, said he knows first-hand that visitors to the Yukon want to see wildlife, bears in particular, and especially grizzly bears.

They don't come to see moose, he said.

"As a wildlife viewing biologist, I was not able to promote anywhere in the Yukon for grizzly bear viewing,” said Bennett.

"That is a really hard thing when people ask you, ‘where do you go to view bears?' and we can't point to a place.

"It's not a level playing field.”

Bennett recalled taking a busload of 40 visiting biologists on a road trip.

These were scientists who spent their life working the bush. Yet, when they spotted a grizzly digging up a stump in Takhini River Flats, for 40 minutes they watch, mesmerized.

Lewis Rifkind of the Yukon Conservation Society and its 400 members called for a ban on highway hunting because the practice is not right, and could soon jeopardize the stability of the bear population.

When he got here in 1992, Rifkind said, there were 25,000 residents of the Yukon. There are more than 35,000 now.

"The hunting pressure is just going to get stronger and stronger, and I do not think the bear population is going to be able to take it.”

It was noted last night, however, that the discussion was not about the state of the black bear and grizzly bear populations because there is no issue there.

In fact, as one member of the audience suggested, the number of bears taken by the roadside each year is so small it barely registers, and certainly does not warrant changes to hunting regulations.

A woman in the audience said that when she first arrived in the Yukon, all she could do was hunt from the road because she didn't have the means to do otherwise.

She took two blacks one season, and did a lot of driving. She barely ever saw another vehicle.

"The only vehicle I saw, when the woman stopped, she congratulated me,” she said.

Gord Zealand, executive director of the Yukon Fish and Game Association, said he agreed with others in the room, that if it's not broken, there's no need to fix it.

The association, he told the audience, recognizes the value of wildlife viewing.

"At the same time, we do want to see hunting along the roadways continue.”

A member of the audience said he's an avid hunter who also loves to watch wildlife, as every hunter does.

At 65, he's still able to get around the bush fairly well, and doesn't hunt bears much.

"But if I'm going to shoot a bear and there's one sitting in the ditch, I'm going to save myself a lot of pain, because I have to spend a couple of hours in the hot tub after a good hunt.”

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Comments (14)

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Forest Person on Apr 21, 2014 at 6:48 am

I agree with the people who would like to see bears use the roadsides without having to worry about being shot. And I do not view spotting feeding bears as hunting or a sport.

The Yukon Fish and Game Association has done well with education and women in the wilderness and conservation efforts. This group has to change its name to be more modern.

How about the Yukon Fish and Wildlife Conservation Association with more effort placed on conservation programs rather than the inherent right to hunt anywhere because it's not broken.

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The Facts on Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 am

In the Yukon it is hard to hunt anything because there is no access like BC or Alberta where they have oil and gas lines forestry. In the Yukon we only have roads as a main source of access. If you have money for boat or can afford aircraft you will be able to hunt. A majority of the animals harvested in the Yukon are off of roads. Because that is the only access. Because of one bad act we are going to stop a Yukoner's right to hunt is wrong and not reasonable. I am 63 years old and have major health issues. If you stop road hunting you are taking away my rights and that is not right. Put stiff fines for people who do not follow the laws.

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Al weeks on Apr 19, 2014 at 8:32 am

Pro bear why don't you and your viewers go walk 4-5 miles into the bears realm for your viewing pleasure and we will hunt the bears in the ditch

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Long Live the Bear on Apr 19, 2014 at 3:47 am

smw

Your statement that most of the road hunting is done by FNs is just plain BS and you know it. What you are attempting to do is deflect the debate away from where it should be, should there be road side hunting.

I say yes for those that are hungry and looking for meat if they have limited mobility.

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smw on Apr 19, 2014 at 1:21 am

@Long Live the Bear you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Trophy hunting I have never agreed with. This is why when I go hunting every season that I am putting food into 6 different house holds, not including mine. Three of the houses are people who are extremely limited to movement who were big impacts for when I was young. The other two are people who my family has always given meat to every year and the last one is a family that doesn't know where to start when it comes to hunting so I have been teaching them. Last if this isn't a FN or non-FN issue than what is it.

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Sandy Helland on Apr 18, 2014 at 4:42 am

In Alaska, years ago, a lady offered guaranteed bear viewing to tourists and launched a successful business, except it was at the local dump. She was forced to close business.

I don't see any problem attracting bears to a viewing station.

Tourists travel a long way to see bears doing what they do in the wild.

Tourists just want to SEE and "making" that happen results in satisfied tourists, cash flow, and good word of mouth advertising.

This takes pressure off roadside viewing, although that's usually available.

Even if you know bears will be there, it's lucky when bears are there.

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Pro Hunter on Apr 17, 2014 at 7:05 am

@Pro bear

Is it pathetic that there are still true Yukoners out there who want to enjoy a past time that has always and will always be around, but they're not physically fit enough to trek through the woods. I'd like to see you tell them that to their face, and living off the land doesn't mean never entering another grocery store in your life. But hey everyone should just have enough money to fill their bellies at restaraunts and buy AAA beef off the shelves all the time right? Hunting is just illogical. Get your head out of your...

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Long Live the Bear on Apr 17, 2014 at 6:55 am

SMW don't you dare try to make this a FN, nonFN issue! FNs have been here a lot longer then you and will be here after you are gone!

Now to the issue at hand, no one should hunt anything from the side of the road unless they are hungry and old or have limited mobility.

Secondly if you are going to eat it, I don't mind hunting. If you are hunting for a trophy I am against it. Karma will get you.

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JayDangles on Apr 17, 2014 at 4:36 am

It's nice to see 2 sides try and sort through the facts rather than use sensationalism and exaggeration to peddle peoples personal agenda.

While I believe most anti-hunters are coming from a stance of emotion, I hope the facts presented allow them to reflect a little on what their true issues are.

While I value peoples opinions, I do wish that people could stick to facts, and have the common sense to either allow the facts to change their opinion, or be able to stand up and say "Well facts be dammed, I just don't like it" Then it would clearly show how ignorant people can be.

I can understand someone not liking something, simply because they don't like it, that is quite normal, but trying to force others to do the same is not appropriate.

People need to concentrate on their own life, their own values.Teach your children your way of life, and if someone else acts differently, you tell them that is their way, not ours.You do not judge, or dramatize.

No more of this pushing your agenda, values and emotions on others until you have the facts to back you, anything else is ignorant.

I applaud hunters' patience in entertaining these discussions. It is not easy.

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Mark on Apr 17, 2014 at 4:01 am

"if it's not broken, there's no need to fix it" is just so incredibly weak. Please stop pandering to people who claim they are poor or have mobility issues which then justifies road hunting. Please stop supporting glorified hunting which is only for an animals claws, teeth or pelt. The YF&GA; could initiate change for the benefit of people's grandchildren rather than shuffling along with outdated positions!

A real consideration is that many animals deserve far more respect from us and they should be allowed to peacefully feed and socialize alongside highways which occasionally (ie Atlin Road) have rural residences; many people who reside alongside highways have grown very fond of their wild neighbours.

People often shoot bears because they live in areas which encroach upon bear habitat. Many kills are not reported. These people are usually well armed and do not use bear fencing - by living where they do they have many bear attractants that include compost, livestock etc.

If we want to see animals that do not see humans as a threat we can go to the Peel, Galopagos, or some of our National Parks - the odd thing is bears can habituate to vehicles and be observed feeding peacefully alongside our roadsides if we just leave them alone.

I am really disappointed with the YF&GA; position.

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native hunter on Apr 17, 2014 at 2:37 am

I would say if tourists want to view bears go to Haines Junction, there's plenty of grizzlies all over there, especially near outhouses, I had a close encounter there before.

I don't hunt bears personally, just moose/bison(when I can).

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Pro bear on Apr 16, 2014 at 4:01 pm

Blah blah blah. The argument that driving around is the only way you can hunt is sad and pathetic. I don't care what your argument is. Driving up and down a road looking to kill something is weak and shows a person true respect for wildlife. Who eats bear anyway? Very few. Ever consider that things in this world should just be left alone? I'm not a hippie or a greenie. I just respect animals who are doing just what you are doing. LIVING. As you shop weekly at Superstore you prance around how you "live off the land". What a joke.

And no I'm not against all hunting. When done respectfully. Shooting an innocent bear on the side of the road shows your intelligence and actual skill. Especially when the majority of people are shooting the poor thing for its fur. Sick. Real hunters can outsmart an animal. Fake ones drive up and down a road hoping to score a hide.

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smw on Apr 16, 2014 at 3:43 pm

This is a very touchy subject and there is going to be very angry people no matter what the outcome is. Not that I am a very avid hunter myself but I probably spend 95 percent on my time viewing wildlife with my wife and kids teaching them about what the animals are doing whether they are bears or any other 4 legged animal.

After reading these couple of reports, I think we need to be asking ourselves a whole bunch of other questions. Starting with..I would like to see a stat number on road hunters that are Caucasian who hunt "in the bush" vs who hunts by road versus First nations who hunt "in the bush vs. hunting by road. In my experience of almost 30 years in the Yukon about 10% of the Caucasians hunt by road and about 90% of first nations hunt by road. Also a stat on who is doing the harvesting by road hunting, but this won't work because only the Caucasian people have to report their kills.

People are talking about 1 km no hunting corridors because an animal can't tell the difference from the left side of the road being closed to the right side of the road being open to hunting. Well if this was to happen it must apply to all race of man and also apply to every specie of animal and needs to effect every hunter and trapper. The no hunting corridor should then commit to every dirt road and highway within the Yukon and it should happen to all the rivers because they are considered forms of transportation.

Also with that comment where there are closed hunting sub-zones we might as well add a 1 km buffer for these areas to because the animals don't know what's open and closed areas. Isn't this why we have national and territorial parks? If the corridor was to happen then why don't we just continue being stupid and make all the corridor areas into territorial park land and then we as residents can pay to drive throughout the parks all year round.

This whole thing is a bunch of stupid nonsense, we are talking about less than 6 bears a year that are harvested via road. Hey here's a thought, if we make a corridor for the bears on the roads are all the viewers going to move to the south facing hills in the spring just outside the corridor to view the bears and complain about the next bear that gets shot? Probably, and then we are back to the drawing tables again. Last note is the traditionally First Nations considered a bear a sacred animal and never hunted them.

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Stu Winter on Apr 16, 2014 at 12:33 pm

I have heard it all many times before.

Most roadsides should be protected areas for the animals welfare and viewing opportunities.

We, as a species need to show more understanding and compassion. Protection is a modern progressive measure and it will greatly benefit the tourism industry which more frequently occurs on the shoulder seasons (spring and fall) when bears use areas along the roads. Grizzly bears should not be hunted period.

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