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Community Services Minister Richard Mostyn

Hosting Games would be an expensive undertaking

The 2027 Canada Winter Games are likely to cost more than $100 million to stage – and the Yukon is the only bidder so far.

By Tim Giilck on March 28, 2022

The 2027 Canada Winter Games are likely to cost more than $100 million to stage – and the Yukon is the only bidder so far.

That was the word from Community Services Minister Richard Mostyn this morning during an interview with the Star.

That estimate is for figures at current values – and with inflationary pressures and possible continuing labour shortages, the cost is likely to rise considerably higher.

Mostyn projects that the games, if the bid is successful – which it will be unless another bidder enters the sweepstakes – will generate around $80 million to $100 million in economic benefits, but that shouldn’t be foremost in anyone’s mind.

He pointed to the potential for legacy projects to be constructed that will be of benefit to the community long after the games are finished.

The last time the Yukon and Whitehorse hosted the Games was in 2007. During that period, the $43-million Canada Games Centre (CGC) was built, Mostyn pointed out.

As well, the athletes’ quarters at Yukon University were transformed into permanent housing units, and the exposure from the Games the territory received across Canada was credited with boosting tourism.

Also included in the infrastructure for the 2007 Games was the ski chalet at Mt. Sima.

The minister called the CGC a “centrepiece of the community which is beloved.

“How do you put a price on that?” Mostyn asked.

“There’s a lot of benefits that come from (something like) this. There’s benefits from prestige, etc.”

Some of the funding will come from the federal government and national sponsors, Mostyn said, although he did not quantify that.

The organizing committee recently submitted a technical review package that outlined some of what facilities would be needed to host the Games.

“This is the first step in a two-step process by the Canada Games Council’s 2027 Games Bid Evaluation Committee and Technical Review Committee to assess Whitehorse’s bid to host the Games,” the committee said in a news release.

The committee will visit Whitehorse on Tuesday and Wednesday to conduct a site visit of the venues reviewed in the report.

“A tremendous amount of hard work goes into the process of securing a major event,” stated Piers McDonald, the chair of the CWG bid committee, which confirms Mostyn’s cost estimate

(The 2007 Games host committee budget was $29 million for operating expenses and $9 million for capital works.)

Given the deconstruction of the Stan McCowan Arena in Porter Creek, McDonald has said, the city would need a fourth rink to complement the two at the CGC, and the Takhini Arena.

The second step will occur in September, when the bid committee submits the comprehensive community review information package.

The news release echoed what Mostyn said about the economic benefit.

“The Games can be expected to generate approximately $80 million to $110 million in economic spending in the host province or territory.”

As the Star reported last week, as part of the lead-up to the bid, the Mount McIntyre Recreation Centre has been provided $800,000 in funding for upgrades.

The centre is home to the Whitehorse Cross-Country Ski Club, the Whitehorse Curling Club and Tennis Yukon.

A news release said, “A complete redesign of the building’s interior is required for it to meet current and future needs.”

Also, the City of Whitehorse has announced that an agreement has been reached between the bid committee and the City of Fort St. John, B.C. for the use of its long track speed skating oval during the 2027 Canada Winter Games.

The host community for the Canada Winter Games will be announced in November.

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Comments (47)

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Bill on Jul 19, 2022 at 1:31 am

The CGC is open and running is because it's our emergency centre in case of natural disaster.

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Adam Smith on Apr 5, 2022 at 10:56 pm

I agree Vern. No need to spend any money on the Canada Games. But it means nothing if its just us opposing it. Where do the Yukon Party and NDP stand on this? My guess is that they will both support it. I hope I'm wrong, but there haven't been any indications that they don't support this.

Again, this is why we need the Yukon Freedom Party.

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Vern Schlimbesser on Apr 2, 2022 at 6:57 pm

We can't in any real sense "buy" health. All the new gyms, and trails, and arenas you want to build make it easier for some to gain exercise, but that is not the majority and so not even a percentage of the problem.
Healthy activity does not depend on Government bought facilities. Incentives to be active, diet education and assistance, stress reduction, and I guess I could add a Government that doesn't do everything it can to poison our minds about some previous group of elected officials so they can perpetuate their own existence.
Too often the objective of Government is to spend money because they see that as success;
“There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income.” (Martin Friedman)

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Vern Schlimbesser on Apr 1, 2022 at 5:38 pm

A waiting list of 3000 for a doctor, a wait of 1000 for an MRI, and Richard Mostyn wants to spend $ 100,000,000.00 for a week-long event.

STOP

Stop this stupidity now. We don't need any more freeways. We don't need 200 more civil servants who will just deal with existing civil servants.

JUST STOP THIS!

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Mitch Holder on Apr 1, 2022 at 4:16 pm

@Yukoner92

I don't know buddy, let's take that budget and find out one way or another. You can always reinvest in sports later, you can't reinvest in dead people or those with chronic accumulated liable adverse health conditions. I think terry Coventry would have skipped a season of sports and rec to obtain medical care in his home territory. How about you? Further, I would consider carefully who it is that you assert "does not get it", you wouldn't want 3.8 million Canadians or a 10% fringe minority knocking on YOUR DOOR.

Beep Beep Ritchie, BEEP BEEP!

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Mitch Holder on Apr 1, 2022 at 12:58 pm

@Yukoner92 - if you assert that cutting off funding for all recreation would not pay for some doctors, I assert that we should try that and see if it would not make a difference as you say, or if you would be pleasantly surprised. We bail out the ski hill to the tune of a doctors salary and it doesn't save lives.

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Al on Apr 1, 2022 at 11:48 am

@Yukoner92

Boy did you miss the mark. Yes Health Care is our priority - certainly a far bigger priority then blowing a 100 million on games. To have 1000 people having to wait for an MRI is inexcusable. However I guess you are OK with that as long as you get all the fringes to help with your well-being. Get real.

By the way I detested wearing a mask and only did so because I was forced to. I followed the guidelines the same as most. I am by no means a drooling fool as you would imply. I also know what is going on in the rest of Canada. However, when you tell people we have the best health care in Canada (which we often hear) then you had better walk the talk - because we don't!

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AdmiralA$$ on Apr 1, 2022 at 10:36 am

You want a lot of zeros? Just turn on CPAC for a bit and watch our house proceedings. Now that is a whole room full of zeros.

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Yukoner92 on Mar 31, 2022 at 10:32 pm

@AI Yes, of course I must be a Liberal because I dared to take a position different from yours. Good god I don't know why I keep coming to these comment pages. Like being drawn to a train wreck I guess.

Of course Health should be the number 1 priority. But we could end all support for Sports, Rec, Arts, Music, Camping, Hunting and still have a waiting list for doctors. Mind you I'm sure that money would help our healthcare system in some fashion, but at what price? Sacrificing everything that brings joy and quality of life to people just to a add a few years at the end? Healthcare already eats up most of our public purse by far. Oh and if you think we have inadequate healthcare, I suggest you take a trip to basically anywhere else in the country and see what they get for what they pay. It' s clear that you have never spent any time outside of the territory. Here is one nugget of info: People in the rest of Canada for the most part, pay for things as simple as an ambulance ride to the hospital.

You were probably happy with all of the covid lock downs as well since they sacrificed our quality of life immensely in order to extend a few miserable years for a few people. Seniors were basically put into isolation and had no quality of life, but hey, all in the name of healthcare right!? Who cares about quality of life!

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John on Mar 31, 2022 at 4:12 pm

@Yukon92

That is a typical Liberal response. Well what can we do (wringing hands, wiping brow, sighing and wishing the issue will go away, besides it is the YP fault for buying the MRI)?

Besides we need more useless facilities so the COW can raise more taxes and charge more user fees.
We don't want to be "throwing it (money) at doctors". Pathetic -this borders on crimes against humanity...

GET REAL !!!

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Al on Mar 31, 2022 at 1:55 pm

@Yukoner92

Interesting ad insert on your behalf. The next time you should start your note with "These statements are brought to you by the Liberal Government."

Typical - you just don't get it, unfortunately you likely never will. Our first and foremost priority is the health of our citizens. When it comes to throwing 100 million at games that is so far down the list of what is needed here in the Yukon as to not even but speculative "thought"; but then I digress - you don't get it. Always the excuses with no solutions.

Sorry there is no excuse for absolute incompetent failure. When you start down the road of potentially putting people's lives under pressure from a lack of adequate health care - then you need to get out of the way and let someone come to make it happen.

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Yukoner92 on Mar 31, 2022 at 11:13 am

@Drum and AI - There is a doctor and medical professional shortage in every province and territory in Canada. Taking money away from sports/Rec and throwing it at doctors will not solve the problem.

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drum on Mar 30, 2022 at 4:01 pm

We all need a family doctor. More important that anything else in the Yukon.

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Charlie's Aunt on Mar 30, 2022 at 2:42 pm

So where are they going to find the land to build another athlete's village? Is there vacant land near Yuk U that they are sitting on for this, thinking YUK U will be so big by 2027 that more student housing will needed and new village can be re-purposed for that? Disgraceful that no available land for housing but miraculously some can be found for CWG. We lost one hockey arena but what has changed that facilities used in 2007 are now not good enough and $1,000,000 has to be spent.

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Groucho d'North on Mar 30, 2022 at 2:34 pm

Somehow I get the sense that the Liberals are looking for a project they can turn into a significant monument to mark their term in office. So far all they have is a few highway digital signs and a pissed off electorate.

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yukongirl on Mar 30, 2022 at 1:58 pm

And how much more unaffordable will Whitehorse property taxes be after this to support the new infrastructure? The only good thing that might come out of it will be housing constructed to accommodate athletes. I'm sure that after the games or just prior, an addition to Yukon University will happen.

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Al on Mar 30, 2022 at 11:37 am

So now we learn that there are 1,000 patients waiting for a MRI ! What the hell is going on with you people. You are more concerned about spending money like drunken sailors to the tune of 100 million on bloody games, then patient care - that is quite apparent. This is f------g deplorable!

Fix the damn problem and stop dithering like you always do. Worry about what is really important for Yukoners!!! Proper medical care is supposed to be a guaranteed right in this country. You would never know it with this crowd of incompetent fools.

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Amber Smith on Mar 30, 2022 at 10:28 am

$100 million on these Games, yet the Libs are removing critical infrastructure in our small communities, under the guise of them being too expensive. Why is there is always money for splashy "announcement" projects and none for projects that would have a positive effect in the day-to-day lives of rural Yukoners in the small, heritage communities?

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Mitch Holder on Mar 30, 2022 at 9:48 am

I want a family doctor.

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YD on Mar 30, 2022 at 9:25 am

$100,000,000

That's a lot of zeros.

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Crunch on Mar 29, 2022 at 6:26 pm

@ Davis
So are you trying to tell us that this extreme level of government funding has a better chance in a place like Whitehorse and that's why we have first kick at the games? Not trying to put words in your mouth but tell us what else could it be.

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Mitch Holder on Mar 29, 2022 at 11:23 am

Enjoy your games, to the expense of all those in 2022 who have died of opioids, those who will die of suicide because they cannot access mental health services, the malnourished, freezing and beleaguered essential workforce who works full time to support your delusions of grandeur and of course, at the expense of our municipal and territorial cohesion as a society. Build another bike trail, that should solve the myriad dumpster fires that constitute this community under Liberal and woke failure. Certainly not what I voted for nor what I pay taxes for. Disgusting. This government is the enemy of the Yukon at ALL LEVELS OF INCOMPETENCE.

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Davis on Mar 29, 2022 at 10:42 am

The Star needs to get their facts right. The 2027 Canada Games are being offered to Whitehorse as the Canada Games wants them to be held in the North, and Whitehorse is the only place in the north that can hold them. It's not that no one else in Canada is interested in hosting these games - no one else is allowed to put a bid in. If Whitehorse ends up not being able to host the games then they will open the bidding up to the rest of Canada.

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Groucho d'North on Mar 29, 2022 at 9:35 am

Whenever a politcian says, “How do you put a price on that?”
Be concerned for your tax dollars and accountability for their spending.

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Lawrence Bredy on Mar 29, 2022 at 9:29 am

Better be careful here, powers that be...$100 million? C'mon, get real. There's no affording that with any shred of fiscal responsibility.

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Sheepchaser on Mar 29, 2022 at 8:43 am

Low hanging fruit. Speaks to the lack of ability and ambition in the public service at present. Let’s just keep doing what hasn’t been working. Yet another gilded turd that the future will have to pay for.

Since Whitehorse is the only bid… maybe don’t build another rink and suggest they figure out a new schedule. If no one else wants to host, then why bend over backwards?

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Matthew on Mar 29, 2022 at 7:51 am

Liberal ideology at its finest.. games to cost more than $100M, but will take in $80M.. not to mention, I thought we cared about the climate!? Why are we having amateur athletes compete for meaningless medals.. LOL can we please have the carbon footprint of these games.. right.. silence..

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Liberalism Kills! on Mar 29, 2022 at 7:05 am

Wow! This is just absolute, smack you in the face, ballsy. This just demonstrates rather poignantly that Liberals cannot help themselves when it comes to “your” money. This would be a tremendous gift though for the beneficiaries of the procurement policy’s racialized bid discount thingy… Yay!

We should have tshirts printed:
What’s in costyn Mostyn?
No legitimacy McPhee!
NDP - Voice of the K. White privilege

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Yukoner57 on Mar 28, 2022 at 9:51 pm

@AI Yes I agree with you. Who cares about prestige and sports and all that nonsense. The government focuses too much on sports as it is. Time for everyone who enjoys our sporting facilities to pay the true costs. No more money from the taxpayer should be going to Sports and Recreation.

It is also time for everyone who camps in our campgrounds to pay for their own darn firewood!!

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Pierre on Mar 28, 2022 at 7:20 pm

Not sure where some of these fun facts come from but the fact of the matter is these CGC type facilities make no money anywhere period, that's not the idea. The idea is to bring people together in a healthy environment. I just traveled cross the country this past summer and attended of few of these CGC places and their prices are even cheaper.

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Juniper Jackson on Mar 28, 2022 at 6:35 pm

The Yukon, under the Liberals, are the only bidders for the games, because everyone else is way, way smarter than this government.

While other countries/provinces/territories are trying to recover from Trudeaus tax hikes everywhere, food, gas, income, house fuel.. oh..and covid.. Silver and cartel are just going to spend the hell out of, they are going to leave us without the doctors and health improvements that 100 million, (probably more) could buy. More drugs, more suicides, more people falling over the edge, more people living on credit cards.. The Liberals have something seriously wrong in their heads.

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Bad Liberals! on Mar 28, 2022 at 6:34 pm

Hello BnR - Agreed. We need to increase the user fees drastically to reduce the tax hit. However, to make it affordable for all families there should be a rebate or a subsidy of some sort paid for by the taxpayers.

However, due to the increase in fuel costs families cannot afford to drive their kids to the CGC. So, there should be a rebate for that too or at the very least, how about a Liberal/NDP alliance carpool. This way they can apologize to everyone for their anti-democratic sentiments. Yah, yah, for the people, not you, those ones over there.

Darn it, the kids can’t make it because they are working to help their parents pay the mortgage, buy groceries, and maybe a kilowatt or two of electricity to charge their rare earth mineral iPhones so they can use their keyboards to give voice to their concerns about environmental destruction, climate change and other concerns while sipping their lattes in the comfort of their homes, on their sofas, while watching Survivor, Bachlorette, Big Brother, or Dancing With the Stars or something else moronic.

Ahhh yessss… Living La Liberal Loca…

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Moose101 on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:49 pm

Did I get to vote on this to blow 100 million for capital projects like new arenas accommodations and whatever is needed to host these games ? No I didn’t and as we all should know you build it and after everyone has gone home you got the operation and maintenance costs for these facilities that can far exceed the capital costs in less than 5 to 10 years. I want a vote to be held to see how the general population feels about this .

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Priceless on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:27 pm

I guess Mostyn forgot about all the editorials he published on how taxpayers got royally screwed on the athletes’ village last time Yukon hosted games here. He used to know how to put a price on things. Give him his pension. He’s paid dearly with his integrity and his IQ.

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Resident on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:24 pm

The other provinces can't afford this after COVID but we're going to make them pay for it anyway through the transfer grant. Huzzah.

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bonanzajoe on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:18 pm

Al. Maybe it means doing some protesting in front of the City Hall against this. Or is that still legal? Will the Mayor invoke the Emergencies act against the protestors and have the police violently break it up like they did in Ottawa? Then have our bank accounts frozen. Have to ask so we can be ready.

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Matthew on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:16 pm

But wait.. aren't we in a climate crisis!? LOL what a joke..

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bonanzajoe on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:14 pm

Piers McDonald, the chair of the CWG bid committee. Wasn't he the NDP premier that almost bankrupted the Yukon when he was Premier? I do believe so. So, what's a 100 mil to him. Besides, he became incredibly wealthy since his political days. Maybe he and his millionaire business friends can put up the money, since they will be the financial beneficiaries of the end product of this thing.

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bonanzajoe on Mar 28, 2022 at 5:07 pm

So, let me get this straight, the taxpayers pay out the 100 mil and the business community reaps all the financial rewards later. I say, let China host it, since JT is selling out Canada to them anyway. And it appears they have most of the money, much of it gained from Canada.

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Fiscally accountable? on Mar 28, 2022 at 4:59 pm

They keep trying to sell us on this touting that it will bring $80-100 million in economic spending to the Yukon. But it will cost $100 million plus to host. Basic math should have everyone shaking their heads. This event is NOT the road to economic recovery for us post-pandemic. Please, maybe once set aside your massive egos and abandon this. Shouldn’t the reality that NO ONE else in Canada has bid yet be a clear sign that it’s a bad plan? Oh wait, our government and their old boys don’t actually think that strategically.

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Nathan Living on Mar 28, 2022 at 4:54 pm

While I would love to see many of the events, we are living far beyond our means.

It's always the rest of Canada subsidizing our way of life.
We have to grow up and pay our own way. The CGC is a burden to City taxpayers and it's highly subsidized.

Mayor and council should know taxpayers want a better deal. The GY has to realize their touted balanced budget is do to generous transfer payments.

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Wilf Carter on Mar 28, 2022 at 4:26 pm

Let it go because no one is going to show up.

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Al on Mar 28, 2022 at 3:52 pm

Let me see if I have this right. We are unable to afford decent health care and related services because we have no money. Yet we can afford to piss away 100 million on games. Who is going to pay for the O&M and capital improvements for these fancy new facilities that we really do not need to begin with after the games? GCG - great building but the taxpayer has been stuck with the ongoing costs. Thanks but no thanks.

Get real, for once! I don't give a rat's behind about "prestige" - but for sure that is all the politicians can think of!

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BnR on Mar 28, 2022 at 3:51 pm

"The minister called the CGC a “centrepiece of the community which is beloved.

“How do you put a price on that?” Mostyn asked."
True, it's well used, but it comes nowhere close to paying for itself. User fees need to increase for it. A similar facility in BC would have user fees twice as much as they are, and people would still be ecstatic about it. But it's the Yukon, free stuff everywhere.

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Anie on Mar 28, 2022 at 3:47 pm

This might be a good thing, more facts are needed to figure that out. But my big question right now is how come nobody else in Canada is interested? That's something we should seriously think and talk about before this goes any further.

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Me Facts on Mar 28, 2022 at 3:21 pm

"How do you put a price on that?” Mostyn asked."
"Who cares, I'll be voted out by then collecting my fat pension" FTFY

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Oya on Mar 28, 2022 at 3:02 pm

Please do not take this on. While I agree the games bring lots of benefits such as the CGC (that we can't afford to operate), we are up to our eyeballs in debt. Let's get fiscally responsible first.

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