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Don Roberts
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Don Roberts
The decision to approve Yukon’s Energy’s new $42 million LNG plant is being challenged by Yukoners Concerned About Oil and Gas Exploration/Development.
The decision to approve Yukon’s Energy’s new $42 million LNG plant is being challenged by Yukoners Concerned About Oil and Gas Exploration/Development.
The organization is suggesting the review by the Yukon Environmental and Socio-economic Assessment Board did not fulfill legal requirements when the board conducted its review of the LNG proposal.
Therefore, the government’s acceptance of the assessment board’s recommendation that the project should be permitted to proceed is also flawed, the organization contends in a press release issued earlier this month.
“I think we want to point out that they have trespassed on their own legislation,” said Yukoners Concerned spokesman Don Roberts when asked why the matter is being raised now, when the project is already half-built.
“We are calling them on it.”
The statement goes on to suggest that if there was a breach of the legislation during the review of the LNG project, construction should be halted immediately.
Assessment board spokesman Rob Yeomans said the board is confining its response to the press release to a single comment:
“The executive committee continues to be of the view that its recommendation in the screening report for the YEC diesel-LNG conversion project is sound and fulfills the purposes of YESAA (Yukon Environmental and Socio-economic Assessment Act).”
The executive committee conducted the review, which included a public meeting held in Whitehorse and attended by approximately 100 last December.
All who spoke were opposed to the LNG project for a variety of reasons. They spoke of the hydraulic fracturing outside the Yukon to obtain the natural gas Yukon Energy would be burning.
The only member of the audience in favour of the proposal was a member of Yukon Energy’s board of directors.
Central to the critique issued this month by Yukoners Concerned is the assessment board’s interpretation of the assessment act, the legislation that guides its conduct.
Specifically, Yukoners Concerned point out the act requires the board to consider impacts “in and outside Yukon.”
The board’s executive committee maintained during the LNG review that it did not have the jurisdiction to review the source of the liquified natural gas Yukon Energy would be trucking to Whitehorse.
It did not have the authority to review the practice of hydraulic fracking outside the Yukon to obtain the natural gas shipped here, the executive committee insisted.
Former committee chair Stephen Mills explained back then a legal interpretation of the requirement to assess impacts “in and outside Yukon” refers to impacts that may be caused outside the Yukon by projects inside the Yukon.
In the same way the committee would not review the source of lumber for a building project under review, it would not review the source of Yukon Energy’s natural gas, Mills explained back then.
The review by the executive committee, he insisted, was confined to the LNG plant itself, and any issues that may arise from its construction and operation.
Yukoners Concerned suggest the government should not have accepted the board’s recommendation because a review of impacts outside the Yukon was not conducted.
“I think it’s once again pointing out that even though you have legislation and regulations, government tends to ignore them when they want something,” Roberts said.
As he’s done often in the past, Roberts suggested the Yukon government’s approval of the project is linked to the government’s desire to promote a natural gas industry in the Yukon.
He said Yukoners do not want anything to do with fracking, and Yukoners Concerned have gained about 8,000 signatures on a petition stating so.
The Yukon legislative committee examining whether fracking should be permitted in the territory is scheduled to file its report no later than Jan. 13.
Yukon Energy maintains that replacing two old backup diesel generators with generators powered by natural gas will save Yukoners millions of dollars, and will result in cleaner exhaust emissions.
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Comments (22)
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Werner Rhein on Jan 6, 2015 at 4:38 pm
This is to all you Yukoners who have no sense to smell the bacon and just blindly following the untruthful propaganda of the Industry and the dictatorial directives of Conservative and Liberal Party Wipes.
Or is it that you are so afraid of losing your oh so well paid job. Which is actually spiraling down since the 70th in actual buying power. Only the top 10% on this earth are actually making more in the last 40 years and the top 1% making a lot more about a 150% more, and all on the back, of the working people and the environment.
The assessment process was absolutely not following the laws and regulations for it.
As stated in the federal act (YESSA) which states:
42. (1)
In conducting an assessment of a project or existing project, a designated office, the executive committee or a panel of the Board shall take the following matters into consideration:
(c) The significance of any environmental or socio-economic effects of the project or existing project that have occurred or might occur in or outside Yukon, including the effects of malfunctions or accidents;
(d) The significance of any adverse cumulative environmental or socio-economic effects that have occurred or might occur in connection with the project or existing project in combination with the effects of
(ii) Other existing or proposed activities in or outside Yukon that are known to the designated office, executive committee or panel of the Board from information provided to it or obtained by it under this Act;
(h) The interests of residents of Yukon and of Canadian residents outside Yukon;
This states clearly that any negative effect on humans or the environment in and outside of Yukon have to be put into considerations.
This was on purpose just to follow YP directions, where YP is just a façade for the Industry behind all of this.
As any one knows by now who has put in the effort to inform themselves outside of the propaganda of the Industry and the straw puppet Governments the overconsumption of fossil fuels is killing us and any other lives as we know it on this planet.
Even the pope of the Catholic Church is now giving directions to divert from fossil fuels. How much more desperate can it get.
These are all real facts I can back up with my full name and not just hiding behind a fake pseudonym like all you blindly party order followers.
And by the way, I drive a Smart car and not a one-ton 4X4 pick-up, which is 99% of the time driven empty and just by one person just to satisfy some ego. I haven’t burned a drop of oil in three years in my large house because I installed a wood gasification boiler, which burns absolutely clean and CO2 neutral.
Why is this YEC / Government project not a Biomass Gasification Co Generation plant which could heat half the City and generate electricity when needed. The technology is all there and is used all over Europe and in China. On top of it, it would create 5 to 10 times the permanent full time jobs for Yukoners, which would pay taxes here and won’t move their profits to offshore accounts like the profiteers of this ill faited project.
But the fossilized brains in the YP Government, the YEC management and YESAA and YESSAB could not fathom this technology as feasible for the Yukon.
And to all of you so smart followers of their directions and who don’t get it either. Before you answer this spend some time and get informed. Real informed, not by the propaganda of the Industry and Government or the mass media, which is owned by them.
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Yukon Joe on Jan 5, 2015 at 1:37 pm
I'm confused how people can be supportive of mining and not supportive of oil and gas. Seems like our day to day activities depends more on having a reliable source of fuel. The Yukon would be an even more challenging place to live without heat and fuel for our vehicles.
How would we get groceries or building materials or clothes or bicycles or anything without diesel or gasoline? Everything we use from our computers, to the internet, to the dog food, etc. is provided by using products from the oil/gas industry.
Seems very hypocritical of us to denounce an entire industry that we are so reliant on.
Just my $0.02
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Wrong Information on Jan 1, 2015 at 10:00 am
There is so much wrong information provided by groups that only have two motivations, stop development and create trouble through wrongful messaging. I don't know how the media works through all the information.
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Sandy Helland on Dec 30, 2014 at 6:19 pm
It's absurd to NOT link an LNG burner with fracking.
The government will "sell" us on the natural gas cost savings (local vs. imported) and push through fracking.
The need for natural gas naturally means fracking in Yukon.
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Mr. Roberts Helping Yukon Party on Dec 30, 2014 at 4:19 pm
Mr. Roberts thanks for helping the Yukon Party and stopping the liberals and the NDP in the next election.
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Clayton on Dec 30, 2014 at 1:19 pm
I really don't think my comment on LNG matters, and honestly, I do have my own opinions! I think there are positives and negatives as with anything! But, I just wanted to say, I don't think someone who has lived here 19 yrs should be telling anyone to "go back where they come from"! I mean, my mom, has lived in the Yukon for 50 years, has two Yukon kids, married a Yukoner, worked for the Government all that time and yet, she ain't from here! So.............should she go back where she comes from?
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ProScience Greenie on Dec 30, 2014 at 11:44 am
Not meaning to be rude but Don Roberts needs some help.
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Lost in the Yukon on Dec 30, 2014 at 8:27 am
Dearest "Yukoner 2" ... if you have been here 19 years as you say you have been then you should know that: a) Don Roberts has been here a heck of a lot longer than you; and b) Don Roberts was a Cabinet Minister under the last Liberal Government.
I may not agree with everything he does but he (unlike you) puts himself out there and publicly expresses his opinion and fights for his beliefs.
Can you say the same?
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Brian on Dec 30, 2014 at 8:12 am
I wish they would change their name. I am a Yukoner, and I am not concerned.
I work out of the Territory in Oil & Gas.
First Nations and Federal Regulations keep this industry under the microscope.
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BnR on Dec 30, 2014 at 6:28 am
Yukoner 2
Only 19 years? Maybe you newbies should go back to where you came from, eh? Dons been here way, way longer than you.
Seriously though, while Don and the others are well intentioned, I think they don't quite get it. This is not an LNG plant. It could easily be burning diesel or even LPG for that matter. LNG just made the most sense both economically and emissions wise.
We have to get fuel from some source. Diesel could be sourced from "dirty" sources like the tar sands, or even 'fracked oil. This is the least-worse choice.
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joella on Dec 30, 2014 at 12:08 am
Dear Yukoners Concerned About Oil and Gas Exploration/Development:
Let me try to simplify what YESAB is telling you.
1. The gas is coming from Outside.
2. YESAB cannot assess Outside gas production. Outsiders regulate their own producers.
Now, why don't you stick to your concerns about oil and gas exploration and development in the Yukon, and save time and everyone's money? The Eagle Plains exploration program should be of interest and a more appropriate focus for your efforts.
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Yukon Stef on Dec 29, 2014 at 11:15 pm
I am having some difficulty with Don Roberts' suggestion that the backup for the generators should be running diesel which itself is likely to be refined from oil produced from fracked wells. If one believes Don, fracking is acceptable if one is not aware of it but that does seem like sticking one's head in the sand.
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Tater on Dec 29, 2014 at 10:36 pm
So, don't get the answer you want, keep looking for something new to crab about. Its done and over with, so lets get on with the project and quit the puerile posturing.
And as far as investigation of impacts outside the territory, I dare you to go to Fort St John or Grande Prairie and parade around demonizing Hydraulic Fracturing.
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north_of_60 on Dec 29, 2014 at 8:15 pm
It doesn't matter how much you want to continue riding, beating a dead horse is not going to get you anywhere.
If something is already done and over with, there is no point in still talking about it.
Shrill NIMBY protestations didn't make your case in a way that the majority of public opinion agreed with you. Give it a rest.
Do something useful, go fight to make the Peel a Park.
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francias pillman on Dec 29, 2014 at 7:15 pm
I support LNG. But I do not support it next to a dam. Who's bonehead idea was that? Obiously someone who dosen't live Downtown or Riverdale.
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Oil and gas supporter on Dec 29, 2014 at 6:47 pm
I don't get why you people complain about natural gas, fracking and an issue with a oil and gas field in the Yukon. It's funny how certain people complain about the fracking and don't want LNG coming to the Yukon because it may or may not been contained from fracking but what you don't hear is them complaining when they need propane for there BBQ's as there might be fracking involved with that as well. You hear certain people complaining about all the oil and gas but my question to them is how are they heating their house and how are they getting to and from work. If I recall anything to do with fuel is from the oil and gas industry.
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Werner Rhein on Dec 29, 2014 at 6:08 pm
To all you brainwashed ye Sayers how about signing with a real name? Being incognito shows who you really are.
Yukoners Concerned are real Yukoners, who think about the future of the Yukon and generations to come, we are not left wing Liberals or NDP supporters. We are people who can think for themselves and don’t just follow the propaganda from dictators who are only concerned about their bank accounts and following the party directives which are dictated by the Corporations.
Where are your facts that this project is necessary and safe? Even the financial aspects of this project, doesn’t make sense. How can you save Millions of Dollars, if the backup generators run for only 70 hours last winter.
Yes, these Generators are old but there are 5 of them. Is it likely that all five will break down at the same time?
There are only facts that this assessment was not done correct. It is the same as with the Government Peel Plan, they think that because of a false majority they can ignore the laws and regulations.
97% of the world scientists say we have to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels to avoid catastrophic climate change. Why did YEC let the Biomass power plant for Haines Junction die? There would have been 4MW for much less money, half of the capacity of this ill faired project. More important it would employ 5 to 7 times more workers, Yukon workers who would pay taxes here.
Can’t you people see what the Pasloski crew is doing to the Yukon economy?
Digging one financial hole after the other for future generations to pay.
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Pjt1959 on Dec 29, 2014 at 5:28 pm
Wow, I guess that all of these people burn wood, cut it by hand, haul it by hand and burn candles. I guess that none of you own vehicles and don't fly on planes. This is just another group that wants to cost us as tax payers more money. When I saw all of the group out sitting in 4X4's I guess that they run on air, not fuel. I agree Yukoner 2 and just head back down the highway on foot. That's my rant.
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Groucho d'North on Dec 29, 2014 at 4:44 pm
If we could harness the passion and commitment of those trying to save the world we would not want for energy,
Until then: Lord, Please save us from our saviours
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Lifetime Yukoner on Dec 29, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Come on people. Do you seriously believe the project should be halted at this stage? With the procurement of the engines and generators completed and contracts entered into for construction the only outcome of stopping now would be an incomplete project that will cost more than the estimate. This project is not linked to fracking in Yukon, the gas is coming from the south. You tried to stop it but failed - score one for the reasonable side who are grounded in reality....... chalk up a loss for the green left wing liberals et al!
Move on, and not to the Peel - that ship has sailed- at least for the short term!
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Yukoner 2 on Dec 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm
8000 doesn't sound to me like all Yukoners. Quit complaining about everything. I have been here 19 years and have never seen such complaining as the last five. Go back to where all you nimbys came from.
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No facts on Dec 29, 2014 at 3:35 pm
Just statements no facts, just more noise that has no substance. NDP supporters.