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Shelley Cuthbert
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Shelley Cuthbert
The Yukon government wants Shelley Cuthbert and 50 dogs in her care removed from territorial land off the Atlin Road near Tarfu Lake.
The Yukon government wants Shelley Cuthbert and 50 dogs in her care removed from territorial land off the Atlin Road near Tarfu Lake.
The territorial Department of Energy, Mines and Resources (EMR) is petitioning the territory’s Supreme Court to make that order.
The petition, filed Tuesday, includes an affidavit from natural resource officer Jason Colbert.
Colbert states on Aug. 6 Brenda Spoule, a manager of land use with EMR, received a complaint from the area.
Colbert investigated the forested area 1.2 km from the Atlin Road on Aug. 7, finding part of the area fenced off.
He did not want to cross the fence, saying there were several dogs present – some demonstrated aggressive behaviour. Some were at large, while others were in pens.
“I didn’t want to enter the fenced areas on account of concerns for my personal safety,” Colbert said in the affidavit.
He left a note instructing whoever was staying there to contact him.
Two days later, on Aug. 9, Colbert, animal protection officer Jay Lester and conservation officer Adam Henderson performed a joint inspection of the site. They were unable to determine how many dogs were there. Colbert explained this was due to safety concerns.
He observed that his note had been removed.
Colbert visited the site again on Aug. 15. Nobody was present during the 6:30 p.m. and 8:10 p.m. visits.
He left a business card and returned on Aug. 17 to again find nobody there. He left another card.
There was another visit on Aug. 22. He found a man present, identified as Tyler Lamire, who stated he was looking after the dogs while Cuthbert was away.
Lamire could not say who all the dogs belonged to. Colbert gave him a card and instructed him to have Cuthbert call him. Lamire said he would.
On Aug. 24, Colbert posted a letter from Spoule at two locations in the area. This letter was demanding that the occupant of the land contact Spoule. Colbert installed a motion detected camera nearby.
On Aug. 28, the camera captured photos of Cuthbert removing the two letters. Colbert explained, in the affidavit, that he recognized Cuthbert because of photos that had appeared in the media.
Lester called Colbert the next day to inform him that he had communicated with Cuthbert through email. He stated she informed him that she was using the site, was responsible for the dogs and was there “for the long haul.”
Later that day, Colbert, Lester and Jason Hudson, the department’s head of enforcement, met Cuthbert at the site and toured the area.
Colbert observed six dog enclosures of various sizes. There were approximately 50 dogs. One was tethered at the entrance of the site.
He reports to have been told the dog had been placed there to deter people from entering.
Cuthbert had set up four tents. Two were used for storage, one was used to store dog food and she was living in the fourth.
Colbert saw four dogs at large. He said Cuthbert called them feral because she could not catch them. He figured they were in her care but had gotten loose.
He took a recorded statement from Cuthbert in which she was reported to have stated:
• she was there for over a couple of weeks;
• she was the only person there;
• she stays there every night;
• she had accidentally cleared four trees; and
• she no longer has a permanent residence in the territory.
Colbert clarified that be believed cleared trees meant they had taken a hit from her vehicle.
He described fencing as wire attached to the trees. Haywire and pallets were present to prevent the dogs from digging.
Colbert returned to the site on Sept. 11 to hand-deliver a letter. It was from Colin McDowell, the director of the land management branch, demanding that Cuthbert vacate the area by Sept. 26.
During this meeting, he reported that she told him she wanted to bring a trailer and a bus for better shelter for her and the dogs.
On Sept. 21, McDowell received a response letter, which was included in the affidavit.
Cuthbert reported that by law, she could camp in an undesignated area for up to 400 days. She said she was looking for a more suitable location in the meantime.
Colbert returned Sept. 27 and noticed Cuthbert’s footprint in the area had expanded. There was a new wall tent and a new dog enclosure that included a dog run. He noticed a large water tank.
He said Cuthbert told him she is planning to stay over the winter, and had a stove as a heat source.
Colbert handed her another letter ordering her to leave the site.
He reported that every time he visited the area, the dogs would bark loudly once they noticed him. The barking would diminish only if Cuthbert was present, he said.
“The barking was loud enough that it was difficult to carry a conversation when standing outside the fenced areas on the site,” Colbert said.
Noise was not the only concern he reported. He said there was a strong odor of dog feces and urine on or near the site every time he visited.
If the petition is successful, Cuthbert would have to remove herself, all the dogs and any personal belongings from the property. She would also have to leave the land in the same condition in which she found it.
Her footprint in the area is estimated to exceed 200 metres by 50 metres. The land in question is under the control of the Territorial Lands (Yukon) Act.
The petition notes that the government has never authorized Cuthbert to use the land.
The department argues that this has caused interference with the public use of land that should be vacant.
Cuthbert relocated to the area earlier this year after she lost a lawsuit and appeal with her neighbours in Tagish, where she had operated a kennel. She was ordered to have no more than two dogs on her Tagish property.
For a period, she would not follow that order, which spurred an application to hold her in civil contempt of court.
Following the start of that application, she removed the dogs from the Tagish property, and the contempt application was withdrawn.
Cuthbert has launched a $1-million lawsuit against her former neighbours, Stefan and Ursula Angerer, Leopold and Edeltraud Selinger, Gerry McGraw, Stefan Landfried, Emerald Gillespie, Anne Middler and Lisa Gallant.
The suit has yet to proceed.
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Fact Check Here on Nov 1, 2018 at 8:57 pm
How to Identify an Animal Hoarder
ccording to the Humane Society of the United States, here’s the combination to watch for if you’re wondering if someone you know may be an animal hoarder:
1. Too many animals (more pets than are typical for most people)
2. Inability to adequately feed, shelter, clean and provide veterinary care for them
3. Denial, in the face of all this, that there’s a problem and that it is affecting the animals’ welfare
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yukoner21 on Nov 1, 2018 at 2:25 pm
At north of 60 and just saying: if she would be from a "different cultural background" and people would say the things they are saying you would scream "racist". So, no hypocrisy here at all, just ppl. stating their opinion without being threatened to be called "racist".
P.S. even if Shelley would not be "white" my, and I am sure other ppls., opinion would be the same. Nothing to do with colour, race or religion - just plain old commons sense, good judgement and abiding the law.
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BnR on Nov 1, 2018 at 10:25 am
Curious if lands branch ever posted a notice on the illegal outfitters cabins which are scattered around the Yukon?
Or are outfitters sacred cows?
I mean, the law has to be applied equally, right?
https://www.whitehorsestar.com/News/no-authorization-for-cabins-found-so-far
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At home in the Yukon on Nov 1, 2018 at 10:06 am
Shelly Cuthbert deserves a centerfold in the next Colourful 5 Percent, or is she already in there.
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South_of_Sane on Nov 1, 2018 at 8:02 am
Remember a few years ago there was an Eastern European guy living around the Scout lake area with his daughter? The gov had a heckuva time chasing him around trying to get him to move.
Said Dude had moved up here from Northern BC to get away from, oh hell, some sort of conspiracy...
Anyhow, dude and daughter dissapeared and popped up again on a squat down by Tutshi lake on the S. Klondike highway. BC Gov. is apparently turning a blind eye.
Point is, if crazy eastern block dude can go squat in BC, why doesn't crazy dog lady head a further 15 klicks down the Atlin road and set up shop in BC?
Out of sight out of mind apparently....
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They're a pack on Oct 31, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Now the problem is that the dogs are so used to being in such a big group/pack that they will not be able to be separated and go to homes with no other dogs.
It's all just very sad how this all went down.
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Joseum Wales on Oct 30, 2018 at 5:47 pm
It's going to be very cold there in Shelleys accommodation when is around 38 below.
Lots of work just feeding and cleaning up the area and melting snow for the dogs.
Let's leave her in peace for the winter and hope someone helps out.
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north_of_60 on Oct 30, 2018 at 2:20 pm
@Just Sayin' makes one of the most important points in this discussion.
If Cuthbert wasn't 'white' the virtue-signaling self-righteous commenters would be making all sorts of excuses for her situation, and probably creating a go-fund-me account for her. The hypocrisy of this crowd is so embarrassing.
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I don't care about her anymore on Oct 30, 2018 at 12:31 pm
In the end, it's the dogs that will suffer which is the worst.
Because of this woman's greed and defiance, something terrible will happen to these dogs. I do not believe for a second there are 50 dogs are all un-adoptable or too aggressive. How do they all live together and not kill each other constantly if they are so aggressive?
I love my dogs and would never want to give them up--I think that's what happened here. She had the right intentions of "rescuing" dogs but then became too attached. There are reasons some people aren't meant to work in certain professions.
I want to help these dogs but only these dogs. I do not want to encourage someone's bad behavior and constant defiance of our court system. What a joke our court system is. Why wouldn't she defy it--what will they do? Clearly nothing to her.
And shame on crappy people who owned dogs who shouldn't. That's the reason why most (not the stolen ones) ended up with her in the first place.
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Dave on Oct 30, 2018 at 10:55 am
@ Land of Individual- I couldn't agree more.
In the year 1968; Yukon government prosecutes drug dealers and has no concern whatsoever with all the Yukoners who own countless Huskies and other dogs.
In the year 2018; Yukon government is now the largest drug dealer in the territory and sends its minions out to harass Yukoner who only wants to be left in peace with her dogs.
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Just Sayin' on Oct 30, 2018 at 10:42 am
Question,
What would the response be if she had a different cultural background?
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Josey Wales on Oct 29, 2018 at 11:47 pm
Hey taxpayer....if you did those things you say?
Gee.... then I might have to call you SIMA or the skinny ski club...we have a few, maybe some eco capitalist, maybe a liberal dog musher who grooms “his” trails with entitlement ....blah blah.
....if you did those things, that have been done, and are by non Shelly types as soon as the sun rises tomorrow.
I get your point, and even agree a tad...however?
This is a different scene than having her neighbors complain, she left.
Funny thing is, do you get my above points?
Tis okay, rhetorical.
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Josey Wales on Oct 29, 2018 at 11:28 pm
Gee folks...gotta say if she had 50 young offenders, 50 alleged Syrian “refugees”, or even 50 self proclaimed stewards of the planet with epic piercings and rainbow hair hanging with her, would the pitchforks be so out?
Nope, she would get government funding, CBC might make a miniseries maybe even a reality show....”Virtue in the Wilds”
Do I support or agree with Shelly?
Assuming it matters what I think...it does not.
No I do not.
Now we got that clear, I also see other things at play besides her eccentric nature.
Seems many folks take issue with her dog fetish, fair enough?
I take issue with gene fetish, anyone care?
I also take issue with revisionist alleged historians, and their fetish to destroy the west, anyone care?
I take issue...oddly enough with thousands, not 50 burkas popping up in our country as of late...and their suggested fetish to retard us to subjects in the 7th century, anyone care?
I could bloviate a spell, but nah....
This particular Josey would rather tolerate a gal driven by her zeal....to be left the hell alone with her critters.
Than the seemingly daily snobbery and sanctimonious chronic vilification by folks marching as chanting NPC’s like collective sheep.
The point I make with all my legit examples, is that each one of us has a myriad of things they do not like. About themselves, about processes, about facts and science, about dog ladies, about mouthy guilt free bloviators such as I have been called...no biggie.
This diversity fetish, ya got a few things about that....nah not today.
Buuuuut in said fetish, far more to diversity than merely melanoma and seems those folks that have a fetish for group think keep forgetting this.
Or do they?
Look at the Yukon map, place is freakin Yuuuuuuuge.
Maybe Shelly should just rebrand as a communist Chinese special interest if she needs gobs of space?
Seems to work well for the flipping over of our rocks and storing historical ticking time bombs.
Me no likey that, anyone care?
In summary, the more I learn of people...and I have, the more I like my dog.
Joseum....seriously? Too long in public school...I suppose?
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Get real on Oct 29, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Go see for yourselves what the conditions are. She is 1.2 km down a road across from 'the old trading post' at about km 28 Atlin Road. She is away a lot, so probably won't be there if you go out. Dogs are being kept in small cages, 'crates', some people call them. Other fenced areas appear to have dozens of dogs loose together - I would be very surprised if there haven't been incidents where an unfortunate dog here and there is ripped apart and killed by the others.
It is not a good situation for the dogs and it is getting worse as the cold weather comes. This is an animal welfare issue. The humane society was ready to take action to take them in 10 at a time, but Shelley would have none of that. This seems to be more about her ego and her need for control than it is about 'loving dogs'.
I don't care what a person does with their time and money so long as the dogs are well looked after and other people are not being adversely affected. She could have gone somewhere really 'out there' but chose to live off an existing driveway. Lots of people have dozens of dogs and don't run into the problems Shelley does. Her issues in court started at the Humane Society when she refused to allow people who were unloyal to her, to be members. (Contravention of the societies act.) She truly thought that she had the right to dictate who could be at Humane Society meetings, who could vote, who could be involved. That's a starting place to understanding Shelley's mentality.
The law does state that people can camp for 400 days. I don't know if setting up kennels for 50 dogs is allowed, as well as dragging in a trailer and tents and chopping down trees. But even if that is all allowed, she is still causing a disturbance to home owners, (Again.) And that is not allowed.
I care about the dogs and about the people who live there, not a whole lot about Shelley. Shelley cares enough about herself. And has zero concern for anyone else. Feeling sorry for her is not in order. Like I said, take a drive out and look at how she is treating those dogs. See for yourself. And consider whether you want her moving in a couple hundred feet from your house, while you're at it.
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Make it stop on Oct 29, 2018 at 3:59 pm
Many of those dogs are old and feeble and don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of making it through a winter chained to a tree. She has created this situation just imagine the state that piece of land is in right now with the short time she has been there.
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AlsoBnR on Oct 29, 2018 at 12:14 pm
I'm really curious on what certification she has (or not) in order to operate an 'animal rescue' in order to re-home/rehabilitate the dogs? How does she evaluate their ability to be re-homed? Does she keep files on each dog and record the training efforts? Have these questions ever been answered? I think it's pretty important.
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Joseum Wales on Oct 29, 2018 at 12:05 pm
ok, so what is the solution.
I see the dogs taken away and Shelley protesting and jailed for an assault charge due to frustration. I see dogs being killed because no one else will care for them.
Let's find a solution.
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AG on Oct 29, 2018 at 11:02 am
Is she breaking the law?
Yes.
Are the dogs being rehabilitated and socialized to be able to be adopted out?
Nope.
Will she stop this behavior?
Nope.
There is one solution to this, and its not a pretty one. However I am surprised that living out in the middle of nowhere the dogs were not yet a snack for a bear or wolf. Kind of speaks volumes of how docile and friendly they must be.
In any case, the problem is that letting her keep all the dogs before in Tagish and not doing anything other than litigation and threats to try and keep her from being an animal horder created this situation. She thinks she's above the law because she thinks she's some martyr for animal rights.
By the way, how does she afford to feed these dogs?
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Mike on Oct 29, 2018 at 10:38 am
I'm not sure where she's getting this 400 days number from, as there actually is a court order stating that people can't do what she is doing. It's just a matter of enforcing it now, so I'm not sure why EMR even is bothering to petition the court for this as there is precedent already: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/yukon-court-bans-camping-for-the-homeless-1.2507064
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Alexander Milano on Oct 29, 2018 at 9:22 am
Jeeeze,
Maybe we could all just leave her alone??
Where else exactly is she supposed to go?
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Pedro Ferrero on Oct 29, 2018 at 8:12 am
Hate-spewing keyboard warriors with that special blend of Yukon-bred small-town pig-ignorance. Most of these poster are the product of what you get when you drag a five dollar bill through a trailer park. (only one poster here has offered up a workable solution. Ten more are just ‘me-too’ empty heads).
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Yukon - Land Of The Individual on Oct 29, 2018 at 5:51 am
Yukon's history is all about dogs and dog teams, so importantly that a Husky is even placed at the top of our flag. Growing up here and in my parents and grandparents generations before snowmobiles there were countless dog teams and hundreds if not thousands of dogs everywhere. The territory was full of dog teams and no one cared if they were kept on 'Crown' land as that meant the people owned that land. Shelley and her dogs wouldn't have even stood out from the crowd if this was the 1950's/60's as she would have been just another person with lots of dogs, people wouldn't have given her a second thought except to help out if she needed because that's what people did back then.
Fast forward to today and the restrictive, completely YG controlled yuppie jurisdiction the Yukon has somehow turned into. Shelly doesn't fit today's 'mold' and is now supposedly a problem living out in the middle of nowhere caring about these dogs. FFS that's what the Yukon used to be all about so live and let live and leave her alone.
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Tax payer on Oct 28, 2018 at 10:25 pm
I Have a questions, a what if, for all those supporting this? What if ...... tomorrow I quit my job, walk away from all my responsibilities .... pick a spot .... I dunno maybe your favourite hunting spot ... or some other piece of PUBLIC land and then set up shop.
I too could “accidentally” clear some trees, build permanent structures, let my pets destroy the place and even have fire wood delivered to my camping spot.
What If ..... a few thousand “southerners” follow this story - see her get away with it - and do the same thing???
Letting her do this will create case law. Case law will let others follow....
What if ..... what if ..... you and I continue to play life by the rules while those with a big old case of the “I don’t wannas” can do what ever they want. And when you finally get some well deserved time out in the beautiful back yard of ours you get chased by dog, step into a pile of %#~\, trip over some hap Hazard building covered in wire and then you wonder ...... I remember when there was moose and bears out here .... why don’t them government people do something about this!
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Mike Daily on Oct 28, 2018 at 7:51 pm
Yeeesh,
Just leave her alone.
This is what happens when there is too many levels of government.....
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jean on Oct 28, 2018 at 6:24 pm
None of the 'witch hunt' comments address the ongoing problem of irresponsible dog owners and abandoned and mistreated dogs. That's what this is about. Some people's fixation on self-righteously judging an individual misses the point, but makes them feel good about themselves.
Are you that judgemental of all people in your life, or just people you don't know?
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yk on Oct 28, 2018 at 4:02 pm
Uh, Juniper, she is NOT out in the "middle of nowhere", she's within a few hundred feet of two residences. Legal titled land owners. That's who reported her.
She's not just minding her own business, she is acting illegally and infringing on others rights.
If anyone here feels so bad for her, take her and her menagerie in.
Or, better yet, euthanize the dogs and let her move on with her life.
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Joseum Wales on Oct 28, 2018 at 1:26 pm
@give-em-enough-rope
Nice post, Yukon is not Salem back in the witch trials days or Poland in the 1940s. Or is it?
Seems like there are many haters here.
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Feral on Oct 28, 2018 at 10:47 am
If you look at this without the benefit of sanity it doesn't appear that crazy...as it were
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Yukon Justice on Oct 28, 2018 at 8:07 am
One day in the Yukon, Shelley will be hailed as an animal rights activist.
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Had enough of this on Oct 27, 2018 at 7:34 pm
There is a big difference between what Shelley is doing, and rehabilitating the dogs so they can be homed. If this woman were actually helping these dogs, then I'd say leave her alone.
Does she have training and rehabilitation plans for the dogs? Anything to track the dogs' progression (more like regression)? She had 50 dogs before and seems to have the same amount - does she even rehabilitate them, or just "collect" them? The fact that some dogs are at large and she can't catch them tells me she's not skilled or equipped to deal with them. Not to mention, 50 dogs living together in chaos - is that really the best thing for them? Wouldn't it better to actually rehabilitate them and home them with loving families?
Nevermind the fact that she's out there self righteously polluting the wilderness as though it's her own property. It's time for animal welfare officers to step in, remove the dogs and see that they are truly cared for, not just kept alive.
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Juniper Jackson on Oct 27, 2018 at 6:36 pm
I could understand when someone lived right next door to Shelly, but she moved.. . I don't understand this.. she is out in the middle of nowhere.. people who abandon their dogs tie them up on her fence.. she didn't set out to have so many animals..she started out just another person that loved animals.. who on earth went out of their way to track her down and complain? This is an awful harassment...but no doubt well tolerated so EMR can pat themselves on their arrogant backs and say.. ha ha..got her again!
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stop the mob already on Oct 27, 2018 at 5:34 pm
Since when is loving dogs that no one else will and providing a service, known as a Rescue (very different then hoarding, duh!), a mental illness?
You go Shelley! These people who are relentless to get you are the ones who are sick with a mental illness!
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Give-em-enough-rope on Oct 27, 2018 at 10:43 am
Jesus Christ, just leave the damn woman alone. Don’t know her, don’t want to, but hasn’t she been persecuted enough? And when the body is dredged from the lake with the rope still attached, who amongst us is going to develop a belated pang of guilt ?
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BnR on Oct 27, 2018 at 7:55 am
Gnarls Barkley has it right:
I remember when
I remember, I remember when I lost my mind
There was something so pleasant about that place
.........
Does that make me crazy?
Does that make me crazy?
Does that make me crazy?
Possibly........
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Geoff on Oct 26, 2018 at 9:13 pm
Is it possible that Cuthbert is mentally ill? She is defying the law, lying and deceiving to protect dogs that cannot be made obedient and adoptable. Sad to say, and nobody should be happy about it, but I think the dogs will need to be destroyed, and, equally regrettable, Cuthbert needs to be committed for a full psych evaluation.
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stop the mob already on Oct 26, 2018 at 5:50 pm
This is such a mob mentality after her, including many of the commenters. I just don't get why we can't find a way to support her and why people don't seem to get that she's offering a valuable service to many people and their dogs. There are vast amounts of crown land or FN land she could be offered in exchange for providing such a valuable service.
She didn't do anything wrong in the first place either, there were no bylaws stating she could not do what she was doing, she had to find out after buying her land that her service was problematic to others. Now she's prepared to stay in a tent through winter (!) and thought she had found a place far from people. That is how dedicated she is to caring for the dogs of the other people who could not. And still, the mob chases her! At least give her her 400 days to find a new spot. I seriously doubt she's bothering anyone out there, except for those looking to be bothered. Look at all the effort she's put in to that spot already. She's willing to be homeless over this. This is a massively strong woman with an incredible heart and spirit. We should help her, not prosecute her.
Shelly I am so sorry on behalf of this very disturbing and strange behaviour of the people you have had to deal with. Stay strong!
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Rod on Oct 26, 2018 at 5:36 pm
Sad part is these dogs will end up suffering and be neglected. This person should be banned from owning any dog ever again!
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Joseum Wales on Oct 26, 2018 at 5:32 pm
Is there a need for a dog care facility somewhere in the hinterland where no one lives?
If so I hope someone can help this woman and her dogs. She obviously cares for them and provides a service that may make money or almost make money with something that is needed.
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Max Mack on Oct 26, 2018 at 5:10 pm
It is pretty obvious to me that there is a concerted effort to chase this woman out of the territory. No matter where she sets up, she is forced out. Government officials, politicians, and the "justice" system all seem to play their hand in this ongoing farce, either covertly or through active measures.
I have no doubt that the "esteemed" Supreme Court justices will rule for the government, given the consensus view that "Cuthbert has got to go". The "law" will simply be used as a tool to bludgeon this woman out of existence.
Whatever you think of Cuthbert, somewhere in the order of 50 dogs will probably have to be destroyed if she is forced to finally leave the Yukon. Where is the support of all the so-called animal lovers in the Yukon? Oh, I know, we have Mae Bachur . . . great lot of good they do with their millions of public money. If Mae Bachur was so awesome, why does Cuthbert have so many dogs?
Do not underestimate the very dirty politics that are being played out here. This is not a just society.
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ProScience Greenie on Oct 26, 2018 at 5:01 pm
This is a mental health issue - dog hoarding. Simple as that.
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Wes on Oct 26, 2018 at 4:46 pm
How hard would it be to change the legislation to make this enforceable?
Oh, but wait, Ranj don'twanttooffendanyone Pillai is the minister, therefore, nothing will happen.
Too bad for the person who lives near there on their titled land they pay taxes on, suck it up, your government is working hard for you. Maybe Ranj could spring for some hearing protectors for you.
Move, or I shall say move again!