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Waterfront Trolley

Fiscal derailment shunts trolley to sidelines

With no funding from the Yukon government, the waterfront trolley will not run this year, says the chair of the board of directors for the MacBride Museum.

By Chuck Tobin on May 1, 2019

With no funding from the Yukon government, the waterfront trolley will not run this year, says the chair of the board of directors for the MacBride Museum.

Rick Nielsen told the Star the museum received a letter in February from Highways and Public Works Minister Richard Mostyn telling them the application for funding was being denied.

It reminded the museum the decision not to fund the trolley beyond the 2018-19 fiscal year was initially discussed last spring, Mostyn said in an interview this morning.

Nielsen said he wrote Mostyn after receiving the letter in February to inform the minister of the museum’s disappointment in the decision.

Beyond that, he said, there’s nothing MacBride can do to come up with the money to operate the trolley.

The government, he said, owns the trolley and the tracks, and has put in nearly half a million dollars in the last two years for required mechanical upgrades to the trolley and upgrades to the tracks from the roundhouse to Rotary Peace Park.

Nielsen said the waterfront trolley is very popular – and the museum is literally getting calls everyday inquiring about it.

One fellow, a railway buff, indicated he was coming to Whitehorse specifically to the ride the trolley – but not anymore, he said.

Nielsen said they wanted to extend the track improvements this year from the Roundhouse to the Kwanlin Dün Cultural Centre.

When you look around at all the tax incentives given to corporations moving forward with developments, Nielsen added, it’s difficult to accept there isn’t money there for a popular tourist attraction on the waterfront.

Mostyn told the Star this morning the trolley is just not a viable operation.

In good consciousness, he said, the government just can’t keep pouring money into it.

When the trolley got going 20 years ago, it was supposed to eventually be self-sustaining with revenue from ridership, but it’s never achieved that, he said.

The government, he added, has put in $5.4 million into capital costs and operation and maintenance since the trolley began running in 2001.

Mostyn said the discussion about continuing funding began in early 2017, shortly after he became the minister.

It was in March last year that the government wrote MacBride to say it was not willing to fund the operation beyond 2018, and it reiterated its position in a follow-up letter in June last year, he said.

He said they did receive a request from the museum last fall for $193,000, which included the $107,000 for operation and maintenance and further capital improvements to the track.

It informed the museum in February there would be no funding, he said.

Last year, Mostyn pointed out, the trolley only operated half-time at four hours a day with total ridership of 5,000, but still had an operating cost of $107,000.

In response to questions Tuesday in the legislature from NDP Leader Liz Hanson, Tourism and Culture Minister Jeanie Dendys said: “With the ongoing development of the waterfront area, we do not feel that it is financially responsible to continue investing millions of dollars in infrastructure upgrades required to keep the trolley running safely through an area that has not been fully developed yet.”

Hanson suggested there are a number of tourism-related initiatives that do not generate the revenue to support themselves. The MacBride Museum, Hanson noted, has made it clear it can’t make it on its own.

“Is the Government of Yukon then planning to take that over or have it shut down?” she asked.

Dendys said the government supports the 19 Yukon museums, and it’s aware of the issues MacBride is facing with property taxes owed to the city, and she’s had initial discussions with its board about the matter.

Regarding the trolley, she said, taxpayers have paid $2.1 million in the last 10 years to support an operation that is just not viable.

Mostyn said there have been discussions about a hotel development on the waterfront, which might require re-routing the tracks.

The decision to stop funding the trolley was made well ahead of those discussions, he said.

The trolley first began operating in 2001 under the Miles Canyon Railway Society.

The non-profit society indicated in 2016 it could no longer handle it, as it was beginning to have issues with the trolley and the tracks.

MacBride stepped in to assist and took over the operation in 2017.

The trolley did not operate in 2017, as it was completely rebuilt, and the tracks from the Roundhouse to the park underwent major repairs. It began operating again in 2018.

The mechanical work meant the trolley, originally from the U.S., no longer had to pull a smaller generator behind it.

Comments (24)

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Thomas on May 6, 2019 at 7:22 pm

This is an important part of the Waterfront and downtown. Kids love it, parents love it, tourists love it. Liberal Gov funds Native Hockey Tournaments, Cultural Centres throughout the Yukon and a bunch of other stuff at a significantly higher cost than this project which is for everyone. Isn't public tax revenue suppose to support public projects not just specific cultural projects.

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L.Szigety on May 6, 2019 at 3:33 pm

Carnival Cruise lines buys a section of the White Pass Yukon Route for $290 million usd, and doesn't completely rule out the possibility of buying up the rest and running the train to Whitehorse in the future.

I wonder if anything else may be coming down the line.

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jean on May 5, 2019 at 9:28 pm

With all the talk about renewable energy, low emissions electric vehicles and sustainability why hasn't the government seized this opportunity to run the trolley on our surplus hydro power in the summer during tourist season? Instead of the trolley towing a fossil-fuel powered generator to provide power for it's efficient electric motor, why not tow a battery that can be charged with renewable hydroelectric energy from the river that flows beside the trolley?

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Boyd Campbell on May 5, 2019 at 4:45 pm

Way more to this story than what is being told in the media. For the details contact Curtis or Silver.

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Tom H. on May 5, 2019 at 1:52 am

Doug Graham is also to blame for the funding failure of this project too.

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Groucho d'North on May 4, 2019 at 1:48 pm

A brief review of history:
The MacDonald NDP government purchased the trolly from Lisbon, Portugal to to get something on the scoreboard before the next election and demonstrate they had some vision of supporting tourism but it was not embraced by the public right away.
The Duncan Liberal government won the election and the responsibility to make this investment pay off. They spent money and formed a plan to make it work.
A short while later the Fentie Yukon Party government assumed the government role and did their best to make this trolley investment something more than a static display piece and operated it from out of Wal-mart area to the Rotary Peace Park. Transporting both locals and tourists in a unique low-carbon way. Slowly it became popular with local residents.
All three parties attempted to make this ill-concieved project viable and a value for the community. For some it became a wonderful feature along the waterfront and provided a cheap way to entertain the kids and visiting relatives and allowed movement along the waterfront without encountering the panhandlers and other ner-do-wells that populate that part of town.
It was intended to be an amusement rather than a commercial entity, so for Mr. Mostyn to now stand up and say it is now a loss-leader and needs to be mothballed is "changing the channel" in the parlance of the Liberal dictionary. I wonder how many other assets YG owns that do not show a profit each year and when can we expect them to be tossed on the trash heap too? But as a tribute to the transportation sector in Portugal - we have nothing finer.

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Jonas on May 4, 2019 at 12:18 am

Everyone is reacting emotionally and not thinking about it. You want everything for free all the time. Don't raise taxes, but don’t cut anything either. Sheesh. I like the trolley and I didn’t know what it cost until now. But now that I do, I get it.
MacBride took on this, spent a bunch of money and now can’t pay for anything...taxes..trolley, you name it. If you are that worried about it, go teach MacBride how to fundraise like other organisations do. If it matters to the people as much as everyone on here says it does, then it will do just fine with community support.

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drum on May 3, 2019 at 5:50 pm

Who wants the land? Tourism does not necessarily make money in certain areas so I am very suspect of the Government not funding a very loved novelty and site on the waterfront during the summer months. Who is wanting some of the land that the rails are on??????? Are they that powerful that the government of the Yukon will give into their wants???? I will be watching to see who will benefit from the Trolley not being run anymore and I will make a lot of noise.

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Why? on May 3, 2019 at 3:37 pm

If so valued, why were we giving this away to tourists for a buck a ride? Where else in the world does a tourist expect to get an interpreted historic waterfront experience for a dollar? Maybe if we charged properly this wouldn't be an issue.

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Mad Trapper of Riverdale on May 3, 2019 at 10:03 am

It's extremely sad and shortsighted to see a unique attraction on the Whitehorse Waterfront (and transit option) get axed.

And don't let the government spin doctors fool you. It's not about fiscal responsibility. This is about getting more land for the new hotel on the waterfront and the tracks being in the way of this sweetheart, back door deal.

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yukonmax on May 3, 2019 at 7:49 am

Just tender it out! Like everything else the government wants to divest. Leave it to the private sector.

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Peter Cambridge on May 2, 2019 at 5:59 pm

When you consider transfer payments and where gov money goes this is a very poor decision.
Even worse is our medical system; the lack of appropriate funding becomes very apparent when you need a cat scan or MRI and find out it will take about a month because they have the equipment but not sufficient staff to reduce the wait times.

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Moose on May 2, 2019 at 5:38 pm

@Jean, Yes you are right, they keep hiring more people, but at least they are hiring at a slower pace than the Yukon Party was. Man they literally ballooned the size of government over the past 15 years and were still going full bore when they lost the last election! A lot of the hires the Liberals are making are for healthcare, particularly in Whistlebend and I don't know about you, but I think more health professionals is a good thing. Bravo for once YG!

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Lynx on May 2, 2019 at 5:36 pm

@MaxMack, Actually this government is being much more frugal than the last one. This is why people are getting upset about different places where the government is reducing spending. It sucks, but money doesn't grow on trees and this has to happen despite a bit of pain. Even the Yukon Party is demanding the government spend millions more than Yukon has in the bank. Check some of the news sites, the YP are constantly demanding funding be restored everywhere it is reduced plus they are asking for extra funding to be provided every time you turn around! Thankfully they aren't still in charge of Yukon's chequebook.

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jean on May 2, 2019 at 1:47 pm

This LIB government has given themselves generous raises, increased their taxpayer funded benefits, hired hundreds of useless 'policy analysts' from outside, and now they want to de-fund our tourist attractions. These people don't care about the Yukon.
The next election can't come soon enough so we can send these 'carpet baggers' out of town on a rail.

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Yukoner on May 2, 2019 at 8:30 am

It's a shame, as this was a unique amenity. Now an opportunity to make it something else.
You can bet this has a lot to do with parties involved in developing the riverfront.

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Dave on May 2, 2019 at 5:40 am

It’s interesting to see how many little everyday aspects of life in Yukon only exist because of government funding. If federal transfer payments to Yukon suddenly stopped I’ll bet the territory would be essentially emptied of residents within a year. A big shout out to southern Canadian taxpayers (especially you Albertans) for keeping us going.

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Tourist destination or not. on May 1, 2019 at 11:03 pm

So blaming the management and board of a non-profit society for not receiving tax exemption that was the norm for the last 60 plus years makes sense? It’s a frigging museum. Now that they have taken over the mismanaged Trolley and copper belt railway, YTG decides to stop funding. Where’s the outrage over the previous board who squandered the money away?
There was a lot of work done last year to improve the look and safety, but all for not. The Trolley was one of the most popular attractions on the waterfront for tourist from Walmart to downtown. But now YG expects it to pay for itself within the first year of new operations. YTG promotes Whitehorse as a tourist destination, but with less and less for them to do, what’s the point. It seems to me if it doesn’t involve booze, drugs, or rehab it’s not important.
I for one would be much happier if my tax dollars were going towards making Whitehorse a more vibrant community, than wasting millions on a soon to be closed pot store and places for drunks and druggies to practice their habits.

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Max Mack on May 1, 2019 at 10:18 pm

Do the trolley tracks lay on valuable land that developers are hungry to acquire?
Funding should not be a problem. This government spends money like a drunken sailor. Look beyond the smoke, folks.

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snowball on May 1, 2019 at 9:23 pm

Good. If it can't run on its own, it probably shouldn't run at all. How much money should the government continue to pour into this thing? People should be willing to pay the $20 bucks or whatever if it is worth it. If not, then the free market has spoken.

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Eve on May 1, 2019 at 5:48 pm

Smells of hostage taking, no?
Give us munney or the trolly bites it!

Did it never occur to the board that they were getting a bit big for their britches with that hideous monstrosity hanging over the old museum?

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Guncache on May 1, 2019 at 5:26 pm

This is a travesty. The Liberal gov't has no problem giving themselves a raise and doling out money to less deserving groups and businesses. I retired from YTG and saw the wasteful spending on a constant basis. This trolley is a huge tourist attraction and enables people, both locals and tourists to travel from one end of town to another.

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drum on May 1, 2019 at 5:25 pm

Have all the fun things and important things in this City been derailed because of extra funds needed for the Whitehorse Emergency Shelter???? The Salvation Army has run a very effective shelter for many, many years in this City taking care of vulnerable people. Now we have a Government run facility that is turning into a flop house. Any inebriated person who is looking for trouble can visit and live there. Now the recipients are hanging around the block between Fourth and Fifth all day causing trouble. I feel so sorry for Duffys and the Alpine Bakery trying to run legitimate businesses and having their parking spaces taken up with "clients" of the Whitehorse Emergency Shelter. Also the many clients who are fighting and scaring customers away. People driving along Fourth and Strickland and Alexander are continually trying to avoid inebriated people staggering over for breakfast, lunch and dinner. How much taxpayers money is this facility taking away from really good programs in this City?

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Jason on May 1, 2019 at 3:53 pm

Some of the blame for all of the issues (taxes, grant & trolley) has to rest on the management and board here. How are you guys not planning for this?

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