Photo by Whitehorse Star
Spence Hill, Anthony DeLorenzo and Lars Hartling
Photo by Whitehorse Star
Spence Hill, Anthony DeLorenzo and Lars Hartling
The Yukon government’s proposed 300-bed extended care facility in Whistle Bend is raising concerns for a number of residents around the city.
The Yukon government’s proposed 300-bed extended care facility in Whistle Bend is raising concerns for a number of residents around the city.
Some spoke out at a public hearing during Monday evening’s city council meeting.
The public hearing was focused on the rezoning of the third phase of Whistle Bend, which includes the site identified for the 21,900-square-metre building.
Other zoning amendments outlined in the bylaw would see a redesign of Casca Boulevard so lots are fronting onto local streets rather than the main road.
A number of single-family and townhouse lots would be replaced with multiple-family sites as part of the city’s effort to cut down on the amount of infrastructure needed while also increasing density in the area.
There would be fewer intersections on Casca Boulevard to improve traffic flow and align streets with infrastructure. The move also facilitates the addition of lots fronting onto Olive May Way.
Comprehensive zoning for a number of residential sections and commercial space is also proposed, with more public service lots drawn into the new diagrams.
In total, 143 lots for phase three are expected to house 300 residents in addition to the eventual 300 who will live at the extended care facility.
Among the residential lots proposed are 40 smaller single-family lots, nine large single-family lots, four duplex properties, 53 townhouse lots and 13 multiple-family sites.
Meanwhile, 35 commercial lots are also included in the proposal for the third phase as well as two institutional lots, one of which is for the continuing care facility. The other would be on the north side of Keno Way.
The main focus of last night’s discussion, however, was on the extended care facility.
Local residents argued such a large facility is not the way to go when it comes to providing long-term care.
Spence Hill, a local senior who’s involved with a number of organizations, pointed out there’s been no consultation about the proposed facility.
If 300 beds are indeed needed, as the Yukon government has claimed, the territory should look at providing smaller facilities in a variety of locations around the city, Hill suggested.
Pointing to Copper Ridge Place as an example, she said while the location has raised concerns for some, the facility itself is known for providing quality care for residents.
With 97 beds, Hill argued, it’s a good size for such a facility without being too big.
Similarly, Cam Koss argued at the very least, the city should restrict the zoning so the building is limited to one storey.
If there’s more than one storey, he suggested, it could become a “big box sanatorium” type of building.
He also pointed out having just one storey eliminates the need to worry about elevators and stairs. It would also make it easier to get residents out in an emergency situation like a fire.
Mike Gau, the city’s development services director, confirmed council can consider the scale of development in zoning decisions.
He also said that along with taking up a bigger footprint on the site, there could be other impacts to cost and efficiency, though the Yukon government would be in a better position to understand those impacts.
Parking and amenity space are required on the site, Gau pointed out.
A Whistle Bend resident living on Dora Crescent also took issue with the proposal for the facility.
Part of her decision to buy in Whistle Bend was around the original plans for the neighbourhood.
If she had known that a 300-bed facility would be going up across the street from her, she told council, she may have chosen to buy elsewhere.
The new plans for the area are not what she bought into and could impact the resale value of her home in the future, the resident said.
She went on to note she would be more agreeable with a smaller facility with somewhere around 60 beds.
Mayor Dan Curtis later reminded his fellow council members that the city can consider certain factors in zoning.
However, it is not within the city’s authority to issue suggestions on other ways of developing, such as proposing a number of small buildings around the city rather than a large one, the mayor said.
Also on hand for last night’s public hearing was Anthony DeLorenzo with the territory’s Department of Highways and Public Works.
He emphasized that while the facility will house 300 residents, it will be designed in a way to include various “pods” or neighbourhood-type areas.
“We do not want it to have an institutional feel,” DeLorenzo emphasized. “A sense of community is very important.”
The concept for a 300-bed facility, he said, comes from the current need and anticipated need for beds in the coming years and a desire for efficiency.
Having one facility creates efficiencies in staffing, maintenance and in other areas.
The design process, which is just getting underway, will involve working with stakeholders, and the government can look at engaging the neighbourhood in that as well.
Coun. Betty Irwin asked DeLorenzo how a decision by council not to go ahead with the rezoning would affect the territory’s plans for an extended care facility.
DeLorenzo noted the “ambitious” timeline the government has set out to having it open in 2018.
If the rezoning doesn’t go ahead, he said, the territory would have to look at where it would go from there.
DeLorenzo also emphasized the territory is planning for the facility to be a positive addition to the Whistle Bend neighbourhood.
The government visualizes the complex bringing workers to the neighbourhood and perhaps helping to spur further development in the new area.
The hearing’s main focus was on the extended care facility.
However, the city also heard from developer Lars Hartling, who’s building rental townhouse units in the second phase of Whistle Bend.
Hartling encouraged the city not to forget about Phase 2b of the city’s newest neighbourhood as it plans for Phase 3.
Along with the comments council heard at last night’s meeting, it received three written submissions on the zoning changes, with two expressing opposition and one being in favour.
A report on the public hearing will come forward next week, with third reading of the rezoning expected at the March 23 meeting.
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Comments (9)
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Just Say No on Mar 16, 2015 at 10:51 am
It might help YTG if they quit referring to it as a "300-bed facility", though it probably accurately describes the depth of their thinking on this. There are some beautiful senior housing developments and then there's warehousing.
Don't they have any design worked out for this that they can present? Why are they applying for rezoning now? Maybe I missed something, but it seems we all have to rely on these verbal descriptions and it all comes down to "300 beds". Like nobody's ever going to want to get up and walk around. Our futures look so dismal.
I'm sure council can send a developer back to work up more detail. Why should they grant rezoning based on this thin information? Just like other developers, YTG could get the rezoning and then decide it's not going to work, but Whistle Bend has that zoning in place.
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fed up Yukoner on Mar 14, 2015 at 8:30 am
Another design build-another colossal muck-up and huge cost over runs and humungous O&M. Where is the $$ coming from to build this turkey? From my basic calculations, the Hospital Corp. (taxpayer funded) is already well over $200 million in debt to some money lenders. I also don't think the $27 million went to pay down the Hospital Corp. loan last year, believe it went to fund the cost overruns that the hospitals in Dawson and Watson Lake and the ugly residence in Whse. incurred. We can only surmise since the corporations that dominate the Yukon Government don't have to report their debt therefore neither does the government with their creative bookkeeping. We will never be able to become somewhat less dependant on those huge transfer payments if we keep building these huge wasteful buildings.
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Fed up Yukoner on Mar 13, 2015 at 7:51 pm
Not sure where the rational for 300 beds is coming from, we have 35,000 folks and that probably won't change much, are we going to import folks to live there like we do now? There seems to be no surveys done by anyone as to what we peons would like to see in our old age, maybe it will house a lot of foreign parents coming to spend their most expensive years here, oh yea and all the other folks who retire here. A few years ago Minister Hart thought it was a great idea for folks to retire in the Yukon where they will live for 6 months plus a day and pay nothing for medical and maybe by then the price of extended care will be a whole $30 bucks a day. Where do these guys get their smarts, not sure what credentials Kobyashi has to evaluate and design an extended care facility, I'm thinking none beyond the buddy plan.
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Michel Dupont on Mar 12, 2015 at 8:22 am
I don't agree to have my tax dollar working to reserve me a place 400km from home and my support base. We already have a brand new senior home that has remained half empty since it opened. 2 of these units should have been developed for assisted living. The average age of the population in Faro is 55. We also have the most of any other group ages above that. A dear friend was sent from here to Dawson City (Macdonald Lodge) where she doesn't know anyone. All of her friends are elders from Faro. You think they take the trip to visit her all the time? Have a heart!
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Frank Michigan on Mar 11, 2015 at 6:02 pm
@Denise G
"What was the purpose of all the supposed consultations and charettes if the city can then just arbitrarily change whatever they want whenever they want?"
Exactly Denise- that seems to be the way the city does business. Develop this or that plan then review something new for a few minutes, show some personal indignation, make a few half baked dogmatic comments, ask a few questions, then ignore all the previous information and rezone and move on. Sound familiar to you!
My favourite one is coming up - build a showcase pedestrian bridge and trail, watch its popularity grow for 10 years, then ignore all the important keystone stakeholders and consider a motorized trail that promotes `community building`. I am still laughing at how flawed city admin thinking (and council thinking as well) is on this one.
Back to the extended care facility. It is being built on the land bought from the golf course which was leased by the golf course - will it create a lot of traffic in what was to be a residential area? Think of all the staff and the parking requirements and as an example, the traffic to and from Whitehorse General. It's not the same as a street with a few houses. I am happy I did not build there.
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ProScience Greenie on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:39 am
How about spreading those 300 beds around the Yukon so that those in need of such a facility can stay close to family and friends in their home community?
This 300 bed facility is wrong no matter how you look at it. Epic fail.
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Denise G on Mar 11, 2015 at 9:33 am
So the plan is to warehouse all those requiring extended care in one spot. So everyone will have to travel to Whistle Bend to visit a friend or relative. This will isolate the residents. Three smaller facilities to house 100 residents that are spread out in the heart of the city would not only be a safer (closer to firehalls, ambulances, hospitals) and more efficient option but allow closer contact with the people and life of the city.
Rezoning Whistle Bend and thus completely changing it is not what the residents of this city approved . All of the proposed changes (extended care facility, running track) will pull more life out of the city. What was the purpose of all the supposed consultations and charettes if the city can then just arbitrarily change whatever they want whenever they want?
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Wundering on Mar 11, 2015 at 9:18 am
What kind of medical procedures can be done in a Extended care facility? Approximately how many ambulance trips per day will be required between the Hospital and the Extended care facility?
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SKate on Mar 10, 2015 at 7:18 pm
Again, as Spence Hill asked, "WHERE IS THE CONSULTATION?" and "HOW DOES THIS PLAN GO WITH Healthy Practices that Work for PEOPLE?"