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Education officials quizzed on pending changes

Parents expressed concerns Tuesday

By Sidney Cohen on January 25, 2017

Parents expressed concerns Tuesday that their children won’t learn the science, math and exam-taking skills they need for university under the Yukon’s new K-12 curriculum.

“I’m a little bit concerned experiential learning is coming at the expense of content,” said one father at Tuesday evening’s information session held at F.H. Collins Secondary School.

The new curriculum, based on British Columbia’s system, involves more hands-on and student-directed learning and fewer standardized tests (see Tuesday’s Star).

It will be rolled out over the next few years, starting with Kindergarten to Grade 9 in the fall, followed by Grades 10 to 12 in September 2018.

Nicole Morgan, the Department of Education’s assistant deputy minister of learning and one of the forum’s speakers, assured parents that courses required for entry into university programs, like calculus, aren’t going away.

Teachers will, however, begin incorporating real-world applications of their subjects into their lesson plans, she said.

In calculus, for example, a teacher could invite a Whitehorse engineer to class, to share how she uses math on the job.

Another father, who is also a teacher, asked whether the new curriculum will prepare students to write university-level exams, some of which are worth upwards of 50 per cent.

“We’ll have to make them ready,” said Judith Arnold, the deputy minister of Education, without offering examples of how.

On the flip side, she said, “we also have kids for whom exams are a terrifying experience.”

An exam situation is all it takes for some students to quit school for good, she added.

Morgan said the curriculum overhaul reflects the Education department’s efforts to create a system that works for all its students.

The goal is “to make them the best learners that they can be, and then they’re prepared for all the doors that are open,” she said.

One woman asked how teachers are being trained to administer the new curriculum.

“Our teachers are going to need ongoing work with this throughout the year,” said Arnold.

For many teachers, the new curriculum means not simply changing what they teach, but how they teach.

In the past, curricula were designed to teach facts, figures and general knowledge, Jill Mason, the president of the Yukon Teachers Association (YTA), explained in an interview Tuesday.

Teachers taught subjects in units: students studied one unit, were tested, then moved on to the next unit.

Under the new model, said Mason, “instead of teaching dinosaurs and the planets and facts, you might be teaching how to critically think, or how to co-operate in a group to get a project done.”

Many teachers are comfortable with experiential learning – that is, learning through an immersive experience – and have been using this method for a long time, said Mason. Others are used to more traditional ways of teaching.

“It’s going to be a challenge to figure out which teachers will need training and in what areas,” she said.

Curriculum changes are par for the course, and teachers expect them, said Mason, but this one is different.

Normally, the government tweaks the public school program one subject at a time, she said.

Next year, the way all subjects are taught will change at the same time.

“That’s a little bit more stressful, than it would have been the other way,” said Mason.

Not that it comes as a surprise.

Teachers have known about the impending curriculum overhaul for more than a year, she said.

While the move toward more experiential and personalized learning will take some getting used to, Mason said, lots of teachers are excited about the changes coming to public education in the Yukon.

“Many teachers have sort of understood for a while that education needs to change with the world, the way the world runs now,” she said.

The new curriculum will offer more opportunities for learning outside the classroom, and for assignments that engage multiple subjects, referred to as “integrated learning.”

NDP MLA Kate White said involving more hands-on activities in school is a step in the right direction.

“As a kid who had a hard time sitting still, my best learning was when I was doing experiential programs, so when I was in music, art and drama, when we went out and we did canoe trips,” she told the Star Tuesday.

“The more kids we can connect with in a way that they are able to be successful, the more successful education will become.”

The new curriculum will also allow students to take some liberties in their course work, said the education officials.

Mason, the YTA president, offered this example:

Say students are assigned to write a story in English Language Arts class: some may be ready to map out their story, write it and edit it, while others struggle may with this process.

Under the new curriculum, students might write their story as play or a comic book, or learn to tell it orally, from a grandparent or elder.

There’s an expectation that teachers will try new things – “take a little bit of risk” – said Mason.

Education about Yukon First Nations, and First Nations ways of knowing and doing, will play a larger role in the new K-12 curriculum, Education Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee said Monday.

White said she hopes the

Education department makes First Nations education a top priority.

“As a product of the Yukon education system, I didn’t know the role that First Nations played in the territory, and I also didn’t know the role that was played against First Nations in the territory,” she said.

White was pleased to hear that all Yukon teachers will be required to take First Nations 101, a cultural competency course offered by Yukon College.

It should be mandatory for all government employees, she said, adding she “absolutely” intends to raise this in the next sitting of the legislative assembly.

“We need to do a better job of making sure that people understand our past, because it’s very proud in some ways – we look at the success of our 14 First Nations – and it’s also been awful, and that is part of our truth,” she said.

“Any service providers, any frontline worker, any bureaucrat who understands that will be better at their job.”

Geraldine Van Bibber, the Yukon Party’s education critic, could not be reached for comment before this afternoon’s press deadline.

Comments (33)

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north_of_60 on Jan 31, 2017 at 5:55 pm

@'One of Those Kids' makes some very valid points.

From my experience as an adult-educator, I firmly believe that exams are important, but they should be 'open book'. Any texts/handouts used in the course should be accessible for exams, however computers and phones would be banned. Those students who have assembled a 'class binder' for the course should be able to use it in exams. Exams should relate to real-world situations where it's not so much what you've memorized, but how well prepared you are to utilize the resources available in the 'off-line' world.

Also the need to develop workplace skills, as noted, can't be overemphasized. Similarly, the skills needed to be successfully self-employed don't get nearly enough emphasis in current curricula.

Finally, any changes in the curriculum which could be seen as catering to one particular cultural group should be avoided. All cultures have been developing and honing those 'bush' skills for thousands of years; that's how we survived. Crediting those skills to one cultural group is disingenuous at best, and suggests pandering for 'political correctness'.

I certainly hope the people responsible for any curriculum changes have been reading the comments to the news articles. They need to remember that it's our taxes that pay their salaries and benefits; they work for US, not senior bureaucrats.

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One of Those Kids on Jan 31, 2017 at 1:36 pm

I was one of those kids who knew how to do it but could never do it in an exam setting. I'm in favour of alternative ways of testing knowledge by way of essays, projects, papers, etc., and exams that focus on how to find and use the information as opposed to the favoured heavy reliance on memorization.
I also understand that without some way of determining if the student has learned something, how will you know if your teaching is effective?

I would also like to see more emphasis on workplace skills, particularly on how to use computers in a real world way. It's frustrating to have to teach a new employee basics like how to use and sort email effectively, how to use MS Word and excel, and how to use a file management system.
And no, you can't bring your Mac to work and connect it to the secure network because you are afraid of MS Windows. (insert head slap here).
Good luck with the very important task of getting as many students as possible prepared for successful participation in the adult world.

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Groucho d'North on Jan 30, 2017 at 3:28 pm

Lots of political points being scored in this debate, but I just wanted to remind everyone, that we are talking about the futures of our children here and having an education system that is in place for their benefit, not the teachers or the bureaucrats and policy wonks or minorities. How good is your crystal ball? Anybody have even the slightest notion of what kind of world it will be in 15 - 20 years? Schools are supposed to be in place to prepare the next generations for success in THEIR futures meaning they should have the necessary skills and abilities to cope in a world that we have no comprehension about. Considering the mess they are being left with - what do you think they need to know in a post-apocalyptic world? Perhaps some bush skills is not a bad idea?

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Jonathan Colby on Jan 28, 2017 at 2:59 pm

To be fair to Kate White, there were many other things said during that interview, and the Star editing make the message quite different. She openly questioned whether or not this was going to be a repeat of the report card system we spent millions on that was on its way out of BC's curriculum at the time of sale. This turned out to be (as I hear it) a total dusaster and a hideous strain on educator resources.

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Martin on Jan 27, 2017 at 6:47 pm

I assume Kate White's (useless) comments are reproduced here due to the fact that she's an MLA. No wonder why the NDP got wiped out in the last election.

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Really? on Jan 27, 2017 at 5:59 pm

At best those "selling" this new curriculum have done a lousy job of it regardless of how many newspaper articles are written. Examples given are laughable and suggest to me these people (Arnold & Morgan) haven't spent too much time actually teaching kids subjects like Math, Science etc. I am confident that people inside the system are not very surprised at all. Curriculum does not dictate how you teach or how successful you are in teaching your students. That is and always has been up to the individual teacher regardless of the curriculum. The premier is a teacher which makes me wonder how it was not an immediate change at the DM level in that Dept. A "clearing of that swamp" has been needed for way too long.

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ProScience Greenie on Jan 27, 2017 at 8:03 am

South Korean kids will easily wipe the floors with any kid from the Yukon academically therefore getting the better jobs - engineers, programmers etc. But our kids will be more culturally sensitive and be better critical thinkers. That will be important in their future service industry jobs such as tour guides and RV detailers, providing a top notch experience to the Koreans coming over here on vacation.

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Just Say'in on Jan 27, 2017 at 3:14 am

Loads of Fairy Dust and Unicorn Farts being applied to this curriculum.

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Just Say'in on Jan 27, 2017 at 3:13 am

This very same type of thinking has entered our Sports as well. It started with participation medals. Everyone feeling good about themselves. No one left behind. Do you really think that the kids do not know who actually does well? Do you think that the kids that didn't do well….. think that they did? It actually lowers their self esteem even more.

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Just Say'in on Jan 27, 2017 at 3:05 am

Valerie Royal was punted by the Yukon party from this File and now she is with the Liberals. hmmmm

I hope everyone that voted Liberal are paying attention to what is going on on many fronts. Bet you thought this wouldn't happen right?

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Wow NDP not on Jan 26, 2017 at 10:48 pm

connected with Yukon, like National leaders challenge. Dead in the water. NDP finished in Canada

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ProScience Greenie on Jan 26, 2017 at 2:19 pm

“take a little bit of risk” - It is always dangerous to treat children as guinea pigs. Once again in the North, that is exactly what's happening. And if the program doesn't work they'll just wash their hands of the collateral damage caused and say 'Oh well'.

"instead of teaching dinosaurs and the planets and facts...' - What the heck? Expect more anti-science mentality and belief in crazy conspiracy theories in about a decade. This is the real scary stuff.

“As a kid who had a hard time sitting still..." - It's not about you Kate, it's about everyone in the Yukon.

While there are little bits here in there that are good the whole things seems to represent a major ideological shift put in place with zero consultation. It is one big experiment in the voodoo sciences with our kids as the guinea pigs. Rather draconian in many ways, with no public input and using a sledgehammer to deal with problems best fixed with little tweaks here and there.

Sandy Silver, if you are still 'listening to us' then you should put this all on hold until the public has time to digest everything and give some feedback. Your job is to represent us first and then govern us, not the other way around.

And really, shame on the YP and their education minister(s) for their part in this.

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yukonlibby on Jan 26, 2017 at 1:33 pm

Might I suggest if you don't want your high school children taking any experiential, art, shop or other non-academic classes then you tell them they're not allowed to enroll and keep them in calculus, algebra, bio and chem? Doesn't that seem like a reasonable solution?

I'm glad that as parents you're all so capable of parenting that you don't need help from schools, but the reality is there are a lot of kids who suffer and don't get taught basic social skills or basic reading in their homes. Some of these kids may never have the opportunity to do well enough in school to get to university, so why shouldn't they be offered a path that shows them all of the opportunities out there? There are kids who can't sit still at a desk all day, and kids who are bored out of their minds so they're disturbing everyone, why shouldn't those kids be given the chance to excel, just like your academically minded kids? I went to high school in rural Yukon and all I had for options were academic courses, with a side of gym and drawing. I would have loved the opportunity to learn more about trades, arts and land based science. I was an excellent student and had no problem studying on my own to learn advanced algebra. So if you all instill that can-do attitude in your kids then I'm sure they won't have a problem taking advanced algebra either.

I don't think that forcing children to sit down, shut up, and listen to a lecture all day prepares them for the real world. The new reality is that employers want critical thinkers who can come up with creative and innovative solutions, not people who just do things the way they've always been done. In my opinion teaching children the way it's always been done isn't a win.

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why not on Jan 26, 2017 at 1:27 pm

Why not look at the life of the people that are giving advice about new programs to incorporate; I doubt you'd want your kids to fall in either of those shoes.
and when teaching about first nations will there be a segment to show how native tradition isn't usable in the capitalist marketplace?

You can turn it into a commodity, sure; but how many of the principles are applicable to modernity?

Native tradition is history and involves remembering and replicating the past and incorporating it in the present. Ergo it's going on all the time. But there are a few major differences; natives were nomadic and changed with seasons... this shaped their traditions (clearing dead during the spring (starved) welcoming the new kids, and then the abundance during the summer)...
as the majority of time spent in school is during poor weather you're going to end up teaching a whitewashed version which isn't practically applicable in a modern society.

Teach the kids the basics and let them find the traditions. Versus giving this "sanctioned" curriculum

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It is to bad NDP did not read the whole nine pages or so of the changes. on Jan 26, 2017 at 10:04 am

Maybe they would get their facts straight.

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k ... wait on Jan 26, 2017 at 9:39 am

Why don't we buy a giant pink ball worth about 400- 500 dollars and throw it in the air, then yell out another team colour, and have them try and catch the ball!?

Only to realize that you could have just one person doing the job of four or five.

We asked for basketballs, soccer balls, footballs...
She bought a giant pink ball to foster group think and team learning.

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Tom Stevens on Jan 26, 2017 at 8:28 am

I am confused.. Is the new Premier not an educator? Is his goal not to elevate the reputation and model of Yukon Education or was he another one who buys into less is more. If he is an educator who has witnessed the constant downgrading of quality education and bought in, then your kids are in a world of trouble. If he is a true educator he should be jumping off the roof over this idea.

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Not impressed on Jan 26, 2017 at 6:50 am

This is concerning. There is already a huge gap between where kids are at grade 12 and where they should be for university entrance and this will only widen the gap. I have a gr 10 student in the house and I am appalled when I read her essays at her spelling and grammar errors, and looking at her math homework when simple operations are being changed into abstract concepts.
This new curriculum is basically going to push kids through school just for showing up. That's realistic right?

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Stan Walker on Jan 25, 2017 at 11:45 pm

Back in the day when we were expected to learn and take tests regularly our grade 12 math teacher got really upset when the class was not doing well. They were not getting good grades and having issues with the course work.

He said he would fail us because he did not want to pass people onto higher levels of education who could not do the work because they would embarrass him and our school. He and my classmates buckled down and we learned and did better on our exams and we went onto higher levels of education.

He was angry and abusive but it was tolerated back then.
Please stop the nonsense. Make these experiential courses available for fun hands on learning but show a little tough love and have frequent tests that prepare Yukon students for the real world.

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What do you know? on Jan 25, 2017 at 10:14 pm

Why is it the first we hear of this is in a gov new release? Why do people like Morgan (who's only experience with kids consists of teaching PE class) decide what's best for our children. Maybe ask parents what parents think.

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ralpH on Jan 25, 2017 at 9:37 pm

Someone save these people from themselves!! Better yet save the unfortunate generation that will be lost to this foolishness!!

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Jesse James on Jan 25, 2017 at 9:31 pm

When we moved out of the territory to another province, our children couldn't keep up with homework and tests given in the first semester. They are now adapted to the system, they are used to writing homework everyday and studying for their tests. They also see clear results if they study and put in their time, it is possible to get a 98% mark in their report cards. You will be surprised of what they could do when the set rules are implied.

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Fed up Yukoner on Jan 25, 2017 at 8:48 pm

I am seriously glad my kids are done with their schooling. I could see a week a year to have a back to the land/hands on experience but throughout the year is pretty costly time wise and cuts into what lots of us like to call real learning. No wonder we have a generation that can't make a decision without a group hug and a participation ribbon. The Peter Principle is functioning quite nicely in education, no wonder it is ridiculously expensive here to provide a sub standard education for probably no more than 10,000 students. My opinion applies to kindergarten through the euphemistically named Yukon College.

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Hauke Kruse on Jan 25, 2017 at 8:29 pm

I was one of parents that participated in this discussion. I asked about the reduced focus on content in favour of 'skills'. I believe that 'skills' in the department's view means learning skills, coping skills, social skills, etc. Ms. Morgan and Ms. Arnold both expressed their belief that skills are much more important than content, and that content should be reduced to allow more time for 'skills' development.
My kids are both engaged in experiential programming at F.H. Collins. I believe it benefits them and I am grateful these program exist. However, these programs are not for everyone and not all parents will want their kids to make the trade off between the experiences and the academic content for a semester. I've had feedback from teachers that suggests student have some catching up to do in chemistry after a semester of Experiential Science.
The presentation felt a bit like a weak sales pitch to me. Video clips of kids sharing their positive stories about experiential opportunities they've had. Several examples of ways to integrate experiential opportunities into courses. However, all of these examples related to social studies and humanities type courses. Less Shakespeare, more local literature, etc.
When asked to provide examples of how experiential opportunities could be integrated into physics, chemistry and pre-calculus courses, I got the sense that perhaps they hadn't thought about that too much. Ms. Morgan's response was maybe an engineer could be invited to discuss how math is applied in 'the real world'. Super. I'm an engineer and I can appreciate how that might help kids who question whether algebra will truly help them to succeed. I wouldn't want the teacher to skip the chapter on logarithms to make time for it though. Perhaps a better example might have been labs in science classes. I hope they don't think that the occasional chemistry experiment to reinforce learnings is a Yukon Department of Education innovation?
Several parents including myself expressed concern about the potential for universities to put our new curriculum under increased scrutiny with respect to entrance requirements. I did not feel reassured by Ms. Morgan's responses to these questions.
Overall, I was not feeling too great about what I heard. More First Nations stories and traditional knowledge in social studies. Good. More experiential opportunities. ok. But fewer exams and tests? I think they kind of slipped that in without any supporting rationale whatsoever. Lower the bar to graduate more kids, I suppose.
Ms. Morgan stated that exams only teach kids how to memorize. I disagree. Exams are central to evaluation at universities. Everywhere. Our kids need to learn to deal with the psychology of preparing for exams. They need to develop exam study skills and yes, gradually learn how to deal will the stress.

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Timesall on Jan 25, 2017 at 8:27 pm

You're being introduced to a kaizen model. Great for google and starbucks.
Versus a typical assembly line, parts are broken up and groups are made of any project.

Usually two groups for any one project. Then you have the groups compete. Whichever one performs better receives a higher pay. This is the model that contributes to the highest suicide rates. You're forced to perform or else you're replaced.

Its been slowly introduced to YG ... you can research the principles of toyotaism versus fordism. The requirements for success are that you have an expendable workforce, no redundancy within a project, and that each component of a project is functioning.

Now the problem with this model is it leaves weaker students even further behind. Say a project for two groups is to portage a canoe. Two kids can carry oars, one kid can carry a lifejacket, and the remaining child is left to read a compass. Well compass reader is unable to do that. Or any of the other assigned tasks because, well, they just don't want to, or they aren't capable.

Voila, you're fired.

Because group one doesn't want to lose to group two they don't carry dead weight. The child is not wanted in either group. One key requirement for this model is communism... why?
Because you need the students to accept a common national goal and arrive with the same basic foundations.
The Yukon is lagging because you're attempting the techniques of higher learning while under the direction of a gym teacher and pharmacist.

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north_of_60 on Jan 25, 2017 at 8:00 pm

The Dept of Ed continues to spout meaningless platitudes, while everyone pretends to ignore the huge moose in the room which is the real reason for this watered-down attempt to get more graduates. Just keep dumbing down the curriculum until everyone graduates with inadequate skills for further education or a productive life. Of course there's always government service for those who then can't cope with the real world of responsible employment. The people flogging this agenda seem to think their way is best for everyone else. Isn't is wonderful to be governed by inept elites?

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Yukon Darlin on Jan 25, 2017 at 7:46 pm

Ok so let me get this straight. "An exam situation is all it takes for some students to quit school for good".

So you're going to take away the exams so that when students get to post secondary they're even more terrified than they were before? Every teacher says "it's not going to be this easy in university" and with this curriculum change they're essentially guaranteeing that.

How could this possibly make sense?

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educator on Jan 25, 2017 at 7:41 pm

I've worked in education for 20+ years. This is a good thing. We desperately needed to update and upgrade our education system. The changes are big but they are well done and important. Talking about real life means preparing our kids to be adaptive, entrepreneurial, critical thinkers and not cursive writing, memorizing the periodic chart and other memorization. It is a different world. Please take the time to look at the new curriculum before you spout off about how bad it is and what a disservice it is going to be for our students. For once the Yukon is bringing in curriculum based on learning theories and the best research we have. I can not reiterate enough that as an educator this is a GOOD THING. Ask questions, become informed and participate in change.

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Paul on Jan 25, 2017 at 7:40 pm

Finally!! A curriculum that works for all!! If you don't like opportunities for all send your children south!! Big thumbs up that parents get to be more involved in their child's education and an opportunity for those that struggle with the current system to learn another way!

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Capitan on Jan 25, 2017 at 6:51 pm

The Yukon has this "go big or go home" approach to these kinds of things. It does sound like there's a high percentage of fluff in the plan, or else it's not fully worked out.

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anonymous on Jan 25, 2017 at 6:29 pm

Quite honestly I am glad to be almost dead. The wave of the future is ridiculous. Bunch of kids who will grow up to be adults who can't communicate, write, or spell and who will know how to canoe but not take tests and live in the real world. Never mind the ones who are entitled and think the world owes them.

Congratulations Nicole Morgan. You should have stayed a gym teacher.

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Just Sayin' on Jan 25, 2017 at 3:45 pm

Appalling!

Great so now employers, professors will have to allow people from the Yukon to present information orally. Bringing in an Engineer to show the application of a math concept in the real world, was done by teachers before this hands on curriculum was brought forth. The great teachers, the ones who were passionate about teaching, they taught students and the students learned without even knowing it. They followed the curriculums and had students who were successful. I suppose that is what the education system needs, more great teachers, not teachers who can teach fluff to students because they have no learning outcomes set forth for them.
Today, students spelling isn’t corrected because it is phonetic and if that is how it sounds to them, then that is how it should be spelt. I have to constantly correct my child’s spelling. They no longer write cursive, so I had to teach cursive so my child would know how to write his signature. Somewhat important for signing papers, they usually don’t ask one to print. I have a tutor for my child because I know how far behind they are. All the extra things I have to do to ensure my child can compete in the real world and not just with the people in the Yukon.

The other issue is what are kids going to do when they hit the real world? You have to sit here, read this and provide a written summary? Can I give it to you in a comic form? Could you imagine? I really dislike how the Education department doesn't have to provide conclusive studies as to the success of this in other areas of the World.

What about the additional expense to parents? Not only are parents going to have to provide kids with normal school wear, but outdoor wear which will last in freezing temperatures. Who is going to pay for the specialized gear that the kids will require? I mean, life jackets, dry suits, tents etc. are not cheap.

Why hasn't this been tested in a small model before blanketing the entire school system? WHERE WAS THE DISCUSSION WITH PARENTS?
Everyone learns the scientific model in school, that might change, why could this not have been applied to a small test group? Obviously, said test group would include those who wanted to participate. I suspect they would be hard pressed to fill a full class!

Does anyone want to start a private school? I would save my loonies to ensure my child had a better education than what is presented in the Yukon Education System.

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Hugh Mungus on Jan 25, 2017 at 3:26 pm

“we also have kids for whom exams are a terrifying experience.” - Judith Arnold

Welcome to the real world! It's your job to teach them and help them prepare for the exam. Because a small percentage of kids are 'afraid' now we aren't going to test? You are setting them up for failure in post secondary Ed and life in general. What if someone is 'afraid' of canoeing? Quartering a bison? Sleeping in a tent (all valuable experiences) these should be electives, not cornerstones of their educational experience.

It's unbelievable that you'd run this ridiculous 'flavour of the month' program on our children.

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