Don’t pursue beautification, residents urge council
City council has decided to defer awarding the contract for the Alexander Street landscaping project after several residents and business people spoke out against it.
By Gord Fortin on August 6, 2019
City council has decided to defer awarding the contract for the Alexander Street landscaping project after several residents and business people spoke out against it.
Lane’s Yukon Yardworks is up for the contract, which is valued at $152,359.
If awarded the contract, the company would have to supply and install multiple items in the Alexander Street area, including planting beds, trees, shrubs, benches, street furniture and pavers.
Multiple individuals presented their opposition to the contract at Monday’s council meeting. The first was Melanie McFadyen, who lives on Alexander Street.
“That is my neighbourhood, the place I chose to raise my family,” she said.
McFadyen told council she has noticed the area change, and impact her quality of life. She feels that health and safety should be a priority at this point, not beautification. She feels Alexander Street is chaotic and unsafe.
Her 13-year-old daughter also addressed council. The teen said she feels unsafe when she’s alone in her yard.
She can’t sleep with her windows open because there are people yelling outside. The authorities are called at least once a day, she added.
McFadyen said she has witnessed fights and other such behaviour. She added there is a lot of public drinking in the area.
She said she has contacted the Yukon government to ask about its plan for the Whitehorse Shelter, formerly known as the Centre of Hope when it was operated by the Salvation Army.
She said there was no response from the government.
McFadyen clarified that she is compassionate toward anyone who needs the shelter, but feels something needs to change to make the area safer.
Mike Travill, who operates Mike’s New and Used on Fourth Avenue, said he too sympathizes with the shelter’s clients. He feels that people come downtown for companionship and to satisfy their addictions.
He worries about the shelter because the area has no outside footprint. He pointed out that it takes up the entire lot, leaving no private space outside to congregate in. This means, Travill said, the shelter’s clients have to be outside in public.
He asked for council to not put out benches, tables and trees because it would make the area more attractive for the homeless to come and “hang out.”
Régent Therrien, the owner of an office building, said there are problems in a back alley between Alexander and Black Streets. He said he called politicians, as well as the RCMP – to no avail. He believes this beautification plan is pointless.
“It was a total waste of time,” Therrien said.
He said he picks up garbage every morning. Sometimes there is enough to fill a five gallon bucket.
He pointed out that picnic tables were removed from the area, which solved most of the problems, but didn’t eliminate them.
Therrien warned that this project would give people a place to go and party, and argued this is not the way to go.
He said he has seen people passed on on benches, having sex on tables and defecating in public.
Therrien feels Whitehorse does need beautification, just not on Alexander Street. He believes it would be better to get the homeless jobs instead.
Coun. Steve Roddick asked Therrien some questions. He wanted to know if he’d received a local improvement charge notification in the mail and if he’d participated in the city’s related online survey and open house.
Therrien said he’d received the notification. He added that he was the only person to show up at the open house, and he submitted a response.
Joyce Mickey, who owns a home on Alexander Street, said the homeless problem in the area has been around for a long time.
She also believes the beautification project is a waste of taxpayers’ money.
Mickey stressed she is not against beautification, but is worried that more beautification would not last because the trees and plants already in the area have been destroyed. She said people have sat on the vegetation, causing it to flatten, and have peeled the bark off trees.
“I don’t want to encourage people to sit around and loiter,” Mickey said.
She feels this would happen to any flowers or trees planted by the city.
Mickey added tourists are scared of the area and have called it an eyesore, She worries about what tourists say about Whitehorse when they go back home.
She suggested closing the offsales outlet across the street from the shelter, feeling it does not belong there.
“I am exhausted from the behaviour,” Mickey said.
Chad Harwood echoed these concerns, saying this project would make things worse. He encouraged the city to not pursue it.
David Meszaros lives in a suite in the area. He said he is concerned about the shelter clients congregating in the area. He has witnessed people yelling at each other and fighting.
Like the other speakers, Meszaros is not against beautification, but feels it’s not the right time for this project, and that more should be done to fix the current issues. He fears anything the city puts up would cause further degradation.
He explained that he chose to live in that neighbourhood. It’s close to his job so he can walk. That said, he claims to not feel safe in the area.
Sonja Hadvick, the last person to speak, owns a home in the area. She feels the congregations of people near the shelter are out of control, and that the project should not move forward.
“It’s disgusting,” Hadvick said.
James Tucker was on the list of delegates but he did not attend.
Later in the meeting, council considered awarding the contract.
According to the agenda, Lane’s Yukon Yardworks was deemed to have the necessary experience to complete the project. The city already has the money
available, as it’s part of the capital budget.
Coun. Dan Boyd said he was reluctant to move forward after hearing the complaints, and asked administration what options are available.
Valerie Braga, the acting city manager, said council could defer a decision to a later meeting. She added that officials can review the contract and consider procurement law.
Coun. Samson Hartland said he felt the timing on this contract is off. He pointed out that the city has met with the territorial government, including the Department of Health and Social Services. The two governing bodies spoke on the issues referenced by each of the residents.
Hartland felt the proposal should be paused and the city should make sure residents are heard.
Coun. Jocelyn Curteanu agreed, pointing out that her daughter cannot walk in the Alexander Street area because she is scared.
Curteanu said the city does not have any control over the shelter, but it does over this project. She felt the city should look at it again, and that there should have been consultations.
Coun. Jan Stick agreed that the contract award should be postponed. She said there are problems that need to be addressed, and council should listen to the people. She hopes the city can find an effective solution.
Roddick, a downtown resident, felt this is not a case of residents not wanting this project in their backyard.
He said there is community engagement, but pointed out that next to no one participated in the process. He wants to to know why that is. He also asked how other municipalities dealt with similar issues.
Coun. Laura Cabott said it does not make sense to spend money on this project. She said the city may invite further unwanted behaviour by moving forward, and might have to do repairs to any of the items installed.
Cabott said it’s clear that people are frustrated, property has been destroyed, and there is illegal behaviour in the area. She felt everyone needs to come together to help find a solution.
Mayor Dan Curtis said all the residents expressed concerns and clearly showed empathy.
He added he could see that exasperation is taking over, and admitted he feels the same way.
He said this problem is evolving quickly and is hard to keep up with.
He too felt the contract should be paused, and the city should look at how to handle this.
He mentioned that it’s hard to rezone areas with regard to liquor sales outlets, and said this was why the city was so diligent on the locations of cannabis sales outlets.
Boyd moved to have the matter deferred to the first regular council meeting after council’s summer break this month. This would be in early September.
The motion passed unanimously.
Comments (16)
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Jesse Martin on Oct 8, 2019 at 4:58 pm
I live on Alexander right up the street from the shelter. Is it fun have drunk mentally ill people yelling at each other 24/7? No, it is not. However, abandoning beautification work is going backwards. You have to put in the work to make a city a better place to live, and that includes nice sidewalks, benches and pretty trees. Forcing residents to continue living with a crumbling dirty street with no sidewalks is utterly bonkers. Fix it.
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Don Trump on Aug 8, 2019 at 5:20 pm
The Centre of Hope has created an almost hopeless situation for local residents and businesses and people who want to frequent the area businesses.
Not everyone has a beater car they can use to protect their nice car when visiting the pet store.
Some people have anxiety when they see vulnerable people who are abusive and impaired and somewhat hopeless.
We should not expect schoolchildren to walk on the other side of 4th which can also be a sketchy place. We need to have bad behaviour corrected. We cannot solve all social problems but we can demand that all people are respectable when they are on the street.
Let's take back our streets and make this town great and safe again.
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martin on Aug 8, 2019 at 7:31 am
Obviously, there is a sector of the population that cannot be "touched". They live in the CoH, supported by their clansmen. The rest of us are second class citizens.
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Seth Wright on Aug 7, 2019 at 7:11 pm
What we need is some rainbow crosswalks and a care metre at the intersection of 4th and Alexander. This worked well for 3rd and Main - You hardly hear any complaints about 3rd and Main anymore...
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angry citizen on Aug 7, 2019 at 4:05 pm
Big Bear is not the problem. The problem is the City that one more time comes up with stupid ideas and have resources to support them and then blames the Government who have to come to the rescue from having incompetent people working in there. Instead of doing a survey on facebook about people renting rooms and themselves trying to get a money from that, they should do a survey on how stupid they are and start fixing the streets and quit spending money where is not needed.
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It's a mess on Aug 7, 2019 at 3:41 pm
I had a meeting at the Coldwell Banker building (next door to the Centre for Hopelessness) last week. When I showed up there was a couple guys urinating in front of the building. Not in the alley, like right on 4th Ave, broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon. I didn't bother going to that meeting. DIsgusting.
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Whitehorse Enabling Center on Aug 7, 2019 at 1:06 pm
Ah, the inclusive, welcoming and progressive solution for the Whitehorse Enabling Center is to dress it up with flowers, trees and benches around it. In reality you can dress up a pig and even put lipstick on it, but at the end of the day the pig is still going to be a pig, unless maybe it’s a 2019 pig and self identifies as a cow but that’s a story for another day. The over the top icing on the cake aspect to this story is that supposedly someone in YG got a Premiers award for creating this disastrous mess on 4th Avenue. I hope she looks at that award with an overwhelming sense of pride and accomplishment every day. That’s our tax dollars working for us!
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Oya on Aug 7, 2019 at 1:05 pm
Incredible to think the center was built right across the street from an elementary school yet the pot shops were not allowed to be located within a certain distance from parks, schools, kids. I would never let my kid walk to Whse Elementary on their own.
@ North_of_Sixty: Your comment is out to lunch. I'm trying to be on a diet as I feel I'm addicted to food (sweet stuff in particular). Can we please close all grocery stores until I lose at least 20 pounds? In theory at least, the off-sales place is regulated not to sell to intoxicated people; that should be the answer to that problem. Why not hold people accountable for the personal decisions they make in their lives instead of blaming it on a business providing a service to all residents?
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Thomas Brewer on Aug 7, 2019 at 9:49 am
HSS's takeover and implementation of new policies has made the Whitehorse Enabling Centre into an eyesore and Health and Safety nightmare. Fix these problems before putting a dime into beautification.
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Josey Wales on Aug 7, 2019 at 8:46 am
Those poor folks that reside there, I used to a few decades back.
Imagine paying taxes, only to have that enabling monstrosity acting as Mecca for epic eeeeeeppic dysfunction.
That is just from the “street view”, factor in all the many years of willfully ignorant folks with PC Crusaders blinders on. The authority types who make policy and enforce it, they get their marching orders from political blowholes of all stripes....hence what we have here today.
The issues on Alexander require beautification that is best performed with the RCMP doing what we pay them for...enforce thee most basic of public safety laws. No flowers needed, folks will do that themselves as they develop the ability to sit in their yards and enjoy their spaces called home in peace without the state sanctioned lunacy that only the bigotry of lower expectations breeds like bacteria.
The beautification of Alexander street? I cannot even type that without my irony alarms and CoW rantomatic reflex put on full alert.
Why not a mere rebrand?
East Van...North of Sixty for all those wishing to leave those crowded big cities?
Apparently up here Diversity at all costs, we need drunks, junkies, and seriously mentality ill folks from all over the globe too be fully enriched no?
Currently there lacks representation of said diversity, ever wonder why?
SSSSSssssHhhhhhh....moose in the room is sleeping.
Everyone best be real quiet whilst you live your lives, the moose needs its rest or it gets cranky and kicks and thrashes when disturbed from perpetual slumber.
B.O.L.E. does damage no flowers can mask.
Now there is a load of chum for all the OJW haters.....eh?
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JC on Aug 6, 2019 at 8:24 pm
There are plenty of places to build homeless shelters. In the centre of town is not one of them. The Government should sell that place off and use the money to build somewhere else. I have a couple of good suggestions, but, well, you know!
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North_of_60 on Aug 6, 2019 at 7:51 pm
The SA has been in that area for a long time, but the serious problems got significantly worse as soon as the off-sales on 4th started business. THAT's a major source of the problem and it should be stopped. Revoke the off-sales license; it's contributing to a public nuisance in that area.
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Seth Wright on Aug 6, 2019 at 6:44 pm
Cabott said “everyone needs to come together to help find a solution.” City Council gets paid to do what? By law officers get paid to do what? RCMP officers get paid to do what? MLAs and MPs get paid to do what? The Department of Justice gets paid to do what? The Courts get paid to do what?
LOL - Cabot must be a lawyer or something like that...
How about you guys just do your jobs, you know, make the rules/laws and enforce them - It really is that simple! Quit making like it's a big effing mystery... What to do, what to do, oh my, what to do...
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Tom Clarinet on Aug 6, 2019 at 5:14 pm
I feel sorry for residents and businesses in this area.
The shelter needs to step up and address these concerns.
Everyone seems sympathetic for the people who use the shelter but this does nothing to help the situation.
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Politico on Aug 6, 2019 at 2:30 pm
Isn't that wonderful, all those people complaining and not one person has an idea what to do. The Territorial and Native bands have nothing to say on the matter either. So the city politicians have decided to sit on their hands and do nothing. Our politicians hard at work for us.
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Angie on Aug 6, 2019 at 2:29 pm
I honestly feel safer walking on East Hastings that I do walking near the 'Centre for Enabling' it's an absolute s#ithole down there. The fact that COW, YG and the RCMP let it get to this point is beyond reproach.
You can drive or walk through there right this very second and see rampant open drug use. Public consumption of alcohol. Public intoxication. Fights and even a live sex act. All the while community leaders are holed up in their vinyl mansions on the hill pretending everything is just fine.
Clean it up. Just do it.