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Delay oil, gas disposition process: YCS

The Yukon Conservation Society (YCS) is asking the territorial government to postpone the spring 2013 oil and gas disposition process until it has conducted its promised public consultation.

By Ainslie Cruickshank on March 25, 2013

The Yukon Conservation Society (YCS) is asking the territorial government to postpone the spring 2013 oil and gas disposition process until it has conducted its promised public consultation.

The disposition is currently in the public review stage for two requests for oil and gas rights, both in the Eagle Plain basin. The public review is set to close Thursday.

During the fall 2012 legislative sitting, the government committed to a full and rigorous scientific review of any proposed oil and gas project and a territory-wide consultation on hydraulic fracturing (fracking).

But the government seems to have signaled an intent to allow fracking, prior to even initiating a public dialogue, Karen Baltgailis, the executive director of the YCS, said today.

"Basically in this (2013-14 fiscal year) budget, before the Yukon government has done the Yukon-wide consultations that they promised in the last legislative sitting, they now seem to be saying that they want to move ahead with fracking,” she said.

"I think a lot of people are going to be disturbed when they realize that this is the direction that is being promoted in the budget speech.

"This talk about shale gas development in the Yukon is premature before there's been full consultation on the water strategy as well.”

Liz Hanson, the leader of the official NDP Opposition, shares the conservation society's concern.

"They've demonstrated more explicitly the direction that they intend to go,” she said today, both where it concerns oil and gas development and the Peel watershed.

Hanson argued the government should be focusing on renewable energy, noting that there's an abundant supply of natural gas on the North American market already.

Energy, Mines and Resources Minister Brad Cathers could not be reached for comment before deadline this afternoon.

Matthew Grant, the director of cabinet communications, said the government "wouldn't want to presuppose the outcomes of the consultation,” and reiterated its intention to follow through with the commitments outlined in its motion last fall.

Premier Darrell Pasloski devoted a significant portion of his budget address last Thursday to the territory's oil and gas industry, noting that oil and gas development "looks promising.”

He highlighted Apache Resources' reported discovery of one of the largest shale gas deposits in the world, which straddles the Yukon, B.C. border, and the interest in oil and gas resources in both northern and southeastern Yukon.

"To be clear, shale gas development means hydraulic fracturing,” Baltgailis noted this morning.

Pasloski continued on to underscore the territory's medium-term goal to develop Yukon natural gas resources, including work on draft regulations to oversea gas processing plants in the territory.

He did note that his "government is also committed to engaging Yukoners in public dialogue regarding the potential development of the shale gas industry in northern Yukon in conjunction with the Vuntut Gwitchin government and in southeast Yukon in conjunction with the Liard First Nation.”

The YCS has been trying to work co-operatively with the government as well as industry, Baltgailis said.

But between the premier's attack on the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society's Yukon chapter in his budget address and a signaled intent to move forward with oil and gas development prior to consultation, Baltgailis has been left concerned about future partnerships.

"I can't help questioning how well we're going to be able to work co-operatively with a government that is clearly on the attack,” she said.

Baltgailis also raised concerns that the government's economic focus is too narrow.

"To try and limit the economic development in the Yukon to resource extraction industries which we know are boom and bust ... to not take into account and preserve the type of wilderness that the tourism industry needs in the Yukon would be shortsighted,” she said.

"Even Alberta, which has always been seen as the rich oil province, is having trouble with their budget.

"Ironically, the royalties from mining over the last year or so were less than the income from campground permits in the Yukon,” Baltgailis added.

She did, however, qualify that she understands the mining industry contributes to the economy in more ways than royalties, including jobs and tax revenue.

The YCS isn't full-stop anti-mining, she said. The group simply wants to ensure it's done in a sustainable way.

See commentary on budget, letter.

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Daniel Canadian on Apr 1, 2013 at 8:22 am

I am a member of the Yukon Conservation Society. Karen Beltgalis does not speak for me! There are members of this Society who believe Oil and Gas development can take place in a sustainable, responsible manner. This is 2013 and a lot of progress has been made in processes and care of the environment.

Karen has led the Society to the brink of losing their Charitable status. They were never mandated to lobby the government or to be involved politically.

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Arn Anderson on Mar 30, 2013 at 11:31 am

Ottawa is full of people who are quite happy to live off the welfare from the rest of Canada. A few thousand people get to live in luxury and fly to any eco-playground they choose while the rest of the population gets to suffer in pollution and environmental damage caused by their luxurious lifestyle. Ottawa is the land of your masters and believing you have rights is hypocritical, just like a bunch of white slave owners wanting freedom from their masters in England. I love raw truth.

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north_of_60 on Mar 29, 2013 at 4:14 pm

The Yukon is full of people who are quite happy to live on the government welfare of transfer payments from the rest of Canada. A few thousand people get to live in a nice eco-playground while the pollution and environmental damage caused by their wasteful lifestyle happens in someone else's back yard 'down south'. Yukon is the land of the greenwashed hypocrites; just like vegans wearing leather.

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bobby bitman on Mar 29, 2013 at 7:59 am

Whitehorse lifer, I agree with your premise so long as mining, oil and gas actually does provide a reasonable net benefit the Yukon, and so long as that net benefit is determined including our appreciation for ecology which is one of the main reasons a lot of us live here. We love our nature.

I truly do not believe that we do get a net benefit from the way resource extraction is currently run in the Yukon.

Just one example is the fact that Yukon Energy is looking for sources of more electricity to provide the boom-bust, outside workers, outside ownership mining industry with an enormous supply of electricity. They want to flood our shorelines, dam our rivers, up our rates. Yukon ratepayers are expected to cover the costs of transmission lines to the mines even though we have to cover this ourselves to our own homes. Home owners pay more than mining companies do per kwh, even though the mines are pulling out hundreds of millions of dollars in profit per year. How does that work for Yukoners?

There are many such examples extending from who gets the jobs, who is 'influencing' our government, who is ruining our land and leaving behind huge messes, where the profits flow to, the infintismal royalties paid and on and on it goes.

I feel that Yukoners are being swung by the tail, and want my voice back. The Yukon Party is the Mining Industry Party and does not seem to care what the voters here want. Most people did not vote for them, and they refused to give their position on the Peel until after they were elected. I would like to see their books. I would like to see who donated what money to the Yukon Party in the last election. Sorry, but there it is.

As for mining, let's have mining in the Yukon and let's do it right, like Doug Rutherford says.

I believe that we can make twice as much money for 'Yukon lifers' like yourself, with 1/10th the resource extraction, and thereby also leaving mining jobs for Yukoners in the future.

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Arn Anderson on Mar 29, 2013 at 4:00 am

If you couldn't care less about my well being, why did your last post make all those assumptions. Think next time before you assume please.

Now, I already knew what your next reply would be and that was to assume I never worked or had experience in any kind of resource extraction industry. A far cry from the truth as my experience lies in pre and post studies of disturbed sites. I know what goes on and know what companies do. I have also seen many blunders made on good faith in the name of less expenses.

In all my posts I make it no secret that I don't have allegiance to the current system because its all make-believe drawn up by humans for one thing, control. Whether it's the money-making scheme, theology, judicial BS, politics and even law enforcement, its all made up to control us. The Law of Gravity is real, the mining act is a parody or any other crap legislation dreamed up by a bunch of buffoons for the sake of "control". I believe all these human institutions, beliefs, and control hold us back as a species because we set bounds and limits on ourselves, but I will hold everyone accountable to the said make-belief laws because that's where society puts their faith in and hopefully one day rationalize its all BS.

There was life before BS, and there will be life after all the BS, it depends on how long you want to spend in the BS cycle.

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Whitehorse lifer on Mar 29, 2013 at 12:53 am

Arn Anderson

I could care less about your well-being. All you keep talking about is that these energy companies pollute the environment. Have you worked in the patch? I don't think so cause you have no idea what we do down there. For example a certain oil company call Cnrl was installing a pipeline and when we where finished we picked up fertilizer and seed to spread over the line so it could grow back to normal at a fast time line. Also another company called rock water energy solutions which uses water and sand to frack the wells. Yes it's the new world and people have spoke about how they want these companies to have better environmental impacts on the environment but you speak as you don't want it at all when it would help out the Yukon with more jobs for the Yukon people and a less deficit as well. For example when the boom was on it Alberta they where the only province that didn't have a deficit.

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Arn Anderson on Mar 28, 2013 at 4:58 am

Did I post any of your commonplace BS points " if I use it, don't complain"? It's pretty lame but not even funny how you try to attach your resource driven attitude to my post.

This is not the "new world" you claim we are in, using out-dated machinery and techniques, resource driven attitude based on the false perceptions of an economy. Remember, most of the inventors in history in invented products/solutions on a not for profit basis, but for humanity, what a great concept and it wasn't based on raping the land for profits either.

Now if you want to carve up the Yukon, pollute its waterways so we can send the resources and all the economic glory to China, go for it. China has been stockpiling huge amounts of metals, food, oil, gas, minerals...etc, you name it, they have it, 10 years worth of production saved up and still buying more at TOP prices. They are not binded to our false economic principles you hold so dear, they laugh at it, they control their yuan so they always win, they are not bound to the United Nations national accounting practices as with most of the western world but don't get me started on that.

Obviously you are obsessed with my well-being and you have to dream up this artificial delusion of me to fit your frivolous points, nice, but that's so yesterday in this "new world". Frack oil? please point it out in the phrase "Maybe you should drink some of that frack or tailings pond water Whitehorse lifer." Maybe you should start reading the paper, practice listening to people around you before reading those big-league papers.

Remember it took action from the people to tell the mining/oil sector to SMARTEN UP after we got tired of having everything around us polluted for the sake of factitious profits.

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Whitehorse lifer on Mar 27, 2013 at 8:45 am

Arn Anderson

Are you say that we should all stop living the life we are living now and go back to not having the tools and resources he have now. All I see is you complaining about the industries that have provided everything you have and use today. If you don't like that then stop driving your vehicle and stop using your cell phone, computer, tv and all of your other electronics and go back to living completely off the land. This is the new world and thing are changing. You seem to think the Yukon is off the market to the outside world and no one can touch it. I wouldn't be surprised if you drove and early to late 1990's vehicle that puffs out more toxins then the newer vehicles but then you complain about the environment having toxins injected into them. You say that I should go drink some frack oil. I don't know where your getting your facts but maybe do a little more research on the fracking aspect before you comment on it and getting it from word of mouth and the paper isn't doing research.

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Arn Anderson on Mar 27, 2013 at 8:08 am

Maybe you should drink some of that frack or tailings pond water Whitehorse lifer. BOTTOMS UP! Economy...oh that false premise that everyone believes actually makes the world go around. It's called economic slavery with some misconceptions of choice and mockerys of actual freedoms and to smell but not taste that normal life that was projected to you since you were a child. Unbelievable, most of the people actually believe money solves everything when in fact their primate brains solves and complicates everything. Keep up this economic mantra though, its good while it lasted, like 50 years ago, time to "mix it up" a bit.

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Whitehorse lifer on Mar 26, 2013 at 12:28 pm

I've been working in the mining and oil and gas industry for the last 5 years. Everyone thinks about the old regulations and that is why it's a bad idea. With all the new regulations for mining and oil and gas I seems to think that it's a good idea. So I say bring the oil and gas industries to the Yukon. It would be a new boost to the economy and we wouldn't have to rely on the government and maybe get a boost in the minimum wage. We've been all living in the Yukon and it has been run by the government for years and a new industry would boost the economy. For the people that think the mining and oil and gas industry is bad. Maybe stop and think for a minute that these two industries provide a lot of the fundamental stuff that we use today for example our vehicles tv's computers and other types of communication tools fuel to heat our homes. For the people that don't have vehicles the bikes you ride or the shoes and the cloths you walk in and the buses you ride on. If you don't like the way the economy is changing maybe move out into the middle of nowhere and live completely off the land and go back to horse and carriages and live in a wooden cabin with no communication.

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Doug Rutherford on Mar 26, 2013 at 8:32 am

I guess it comes down to one of two possible strategies: let's rush things through or let's make sure we do it right. Gee, when I look at it this way, there really only seems to be one choice.

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Jackie Ward on Mar 26, 2013 at 6:05 am

Cue the "how will I feed my family?" trolls. People won't be happy until every inch of our planet is destroyed. If you gave me the choice between a million dollars or an untouched creek that would provide me water for the rest of my life, take a guess what I would choose? People today don't seem to understand or even care about the sheer magnitude of how valuable our water is. But who cares right? "I've got to feed my family". All I hear is blah, blah, blah, family, blah, blah. People are dieing around the world because they don't have access to clean water. And you people just spit on the fact that we are very fortunate.

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Arn Anderson on Mar 26, 2013 at 3:49 am

Lemme guess, ship all our resources away and receive some temp jobs, little bit of royalties that amount to nothing the damages that have/will be done. Damn that precautionary principle and more with Halliburton loopholes, the good ole "get the money NOW and let someone else deal with the problems later" attitude. Watch out Yukon...

http://www.watershedsentinel.ca/content/fracking-natural-gas-affects-water-quality

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