Dad's treatment compared to Third World country
As the inquest into the death of Raymond Silverfox enters its final days,
By Justine Davidson on April 22, 2010
As the inquest into the death of Raymond Silverfox enters its final days, the Carmacks man's family is considering further legal action against those responsible for him in his final hours.
"We are very confident the family has sufficient evidence to go to the next level,” Little Salmon-Carmacks First Nation Chief Eddie Skookum said early Wednesday afternoon during a gathering held in front of the Andrew A. Philipsen Law Centre in Whitehorse.
Inside, members of the Carmacks community packed the large courtroom for the fifth day of the coroner's inquest into Silverfox's death.
Testimony came from a number of the guards and RCMP officers who were in charge of caring for Silverfox as he lay vomiting and writhing in his cell for more than 12 hours.
He was never offered clean clothes, food, medical help nor a clean cell, the six-person coroner's jury has heard.
He was taken to Whitehorse General Hospital after someone realized he was unconscious 13 hours after his arrest. He died a short time later.
"We know it's very incoherent in the way the process is done and the way they evaluate people in cells; it doesn't matter who they are,” Skookum said of his impressions from the evidence so far.
On Wednesday, the jury heard some of the most damning evidence yet against the police and guards who were working on Dec. 2, 2008.
Transcripts from the cell block audio recorder drew gasps of disbelief from the audience as they were read out to Const. Geoff Corbett, one of the many RCMP officers who came through the cell block that day.
When Corbett entered the guard room that afternoon, he noticed Silverfox's cell on the surveillance monitor. By that point in the day, the floor was covered in vomit, and
Silverfox was lying face-down in the filth.
"There's shit everywhere,” Corbett commented, while guard Hector MacLellan laughed.
"What a f---ing knob. I have no patience for guys like that,” Corbett continued.
The constable then went to Silverfox's cell and looked in through the small window in the door. Silverfox asked him for a mat to lie on, in a "very calm, matter-of-fact” tone,
Corbett said.
The officer responded: "Huh, no. You can sleep in your own shit.”
As he walked back into the guard room, he was recorded as saying, "Can they get a mat? Oh yeah, sure. ... Yeah, you need a pizza too?”
The transcript then shows a partly inaudible response from one of his fellow officers, Jeff Kalles, who says: "Get him some sausages (inaudible) throw that up and eat it.”
During his testimony earlier this week, Kalles denied saying the last three words.
It was one of several transcribed comments Kalles and another officer, Dennis Connelly, denied making. The officers' testimonies "have not been very consistent with the
tapes,” Skookum told reporters.
Corbett, who broke down in tears on the stand, said he was angry at Silverfox when he saw the mess in his cell. People lodged in the drunk tank often defecate and urinate
in their cells to make things difficult for the guards and officers, Corbett said, and he assumed Silverfox had messed his cell intentionally.
"I am sorry for making that statement,” Corbett said of his comments to Silverfox. "... It's completely inappropriate and unprofessional.”
He told the jury he is now under an RCMP code-of-conduct investigation.
MacLellan also apologized for his behaviour, including a remark he made to the front desk clerk who called on behalf of Silverfox's girlfriend.
"He's still hammered,” MacLellan said when asked if Silverfox was being released. "... Tell them he's comfortable in whatever he's lying in.”
The clerk laughed when he told her, "It's the worst I've seen in five years here.”
The lawyer for the coroner's service, Lee Kirkpatrick, minimized the seemingly callous conversations the officers and guards had about Silverfox during that day.
"It's not your grandmother's living room,” she said of their work environment. She said the language they used may seem "shocking” when heard in the courtroom, but that
"rough language” and "black humour” are part of the job.
That was little solace to the people who stood outside the courthouse Wednesday and who have packed the courtroom for the entire inquest.
A dozen placards held by friends and family describe Silverfox as positive, dedicated, strong and loving.
He was a highly respected employee of the Carmacks Development Corp., and not a regular drinker, Skookum said.
The deceased man's young daughter, Deanna Charlie, sobbed as she spoke about her dad.
"My father was a kind and gentle man. ... I love him so much and I don't know how these people could do this to him.
"... They treated him like they were (in) a Third World country. This is a First World country.”
The inquest into Silverfox's death is scheduled to continue until Friday.
The two-woman, four-man jury will then be asked to determine how Silverfox died and will be invited to make recommendations on how such a death may be prevented in
the future.
Their recommendations are non-binding and they are not supposed to find fault as in a trial.
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Arn Anderson on Apr 28, 2010 at 8:07 am
Third World? Spend one day in a real third world and this situation is a walk in the park. Gimme a break, people have been treated 10X worse.
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Donald McKenzie on Apr 28, 2010 at 2:41 am
I notice that there is a lot of people here who are biting from the shadows. I have the honesty and integrity to post my own name here. Members of my family don't get so drunk that they vomit 26 times. If they did, I would probably have them getting sick in the garage while I watched them get it out of their system. And I'd video tape it, just to show them what they have done to themselves, in the hope that they would GROW-UP.
As for those that hate the cops for what they have done in this situation, and for the record, I AGREE THAT THEIR ACTIONS WERE DEPLORABLE, go spend a weekend working in the drunk tank, and see if you don't come out of it with a slightly different perspective.
Mr. Silverfox SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED, but those who are pointing fingers only at the cops, should maybe take a look at what their actions, or inactions, had to do with this tragedy.
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mad FN on Apr 27, 2010 at 2:25 pm
MR. F Pillman shut your big mouth before someone does it for you, you have no right to say what you have to say stop puting your racist thoughts on the whitehorse star cause personally you "literally" like to make alot of people MAD!! Waste of your time find something better to do unless you have nothing better to do! Get a life.......
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SS on Apr 27, 2010 at 2:16 pm
You People that have written nothing but nasty comments have no heart at all, you think only about yourself and what you have to say..Which is to me NONSENCE and really a waste of your time and typing! No One wants to hear your bs talk and your little self confidence comment to make your self look good!!! All I care about is the fact that the RCMP are criminals and possably prejudice to our native cultural FN people and if indeed it was a non first nation this would have been a totally different outcome sorry to say but it's true and everybody know's it. Raymond could of, would of, should of been here today and still apart of our lives but they ruined that the momment they thought to themselves that they were doing ther "JOB", they threw him into the cell and gave him his death sentance right there, meanwhile thinking ther were a bunch of comedians at that. Ray had no choice but to hear this while he lay there dying, to the person who said walk in there shoes for a day, think again MR. you do the walking. Ray will always be remembered by everybody cause he will make a change to this so called Justice System for the good of all people that end up in the cell or morgue!! To all the RCMP, so called guards, and whoever else that was involved in this EVIL act, I hope you all get fired or at least we know you'll to will be judged time come!
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cousin of victim on Apr 27, 2010 at 5:26 am
Reading some of these negative comments just says to me that you are no better than the RCMP and the guards that was involved in this inquest. Ray was a person who was a father, brother, uncle, son, cousin and a friend. And for you guys to try to judge him just because he got drunk and ended up in the drunk tank, don't mean that he had to get treated the way that he did in the custody of the RCMP's. They are the ones that are at fault here and i don't give a dam what any of you negative people try to say other wise. Your comments make me gag, and is just comes show that you people have NO compassion like our justice system. Thank you to those who care and show compassion for my cousin because he was a human being. Pray for you sorry souls!!
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Anonymous on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:32 pm
After hearing what his family has had to say I think the main reason Mr. Silverfox was in this situation is that he IS NOT A DRINKER. That said I feel that he may have had a lower tolerance and that may have influenced his incapacitation.
That said it still boils down to the fact that the RCMP's lack of compassion and their negligence towards cleaning the cell lead to this poor man's untimely death.
My condolences go out to the family. Time will help you heal but the memory of who Mr. Silverfox really was will keep you strong. Those of you who have negative comments please keep them to yourselves, show some respect for the deceased.
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francias pillman on Apr 26, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Raymond refused medical help. That's all I need to know about this situation. Stop blaming the RCMP, ambulance, etc. He is to blame for what happened, no one else.
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Someone on Apr 24, 2010 at 6:09 am
I can't believe some of you saying he is not responsible for himself. I am sure many of you got "pissed" drunk before. Maybe when you were younger but who are you to to say about him just cause he was in his 40's?? He was not a drinker and so what if he went off just this time in his life. He didn't deserve the treatment he got nor did he diserve to DIE over it. For all of you that have no remorse for this sittuation shame on you. The comments that the cops have made is not right for anyone on this planet. Be it a drunk person or a royal person. Everyone should be respected cause we ALL have feelings.
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tommy smith on Apr 23, 2010 at 1:42 pm
i wonder if mr. mckenzie would be whistling a different tune if it was one of his family member that was treated like that.would he say what a wonderful job they are doing? mr. jack did you personally know mr. siverfox to make that statement.
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shenya on Apr 23, 2010 at 8:32 am
The emergency medics are people who are dedicated in saving lives. They are equipped and are trained. I think we should look down on the RCMP at work during this terrible znd traumatic time. No human should be treated in such a way as the deceased person was. We beleive the law to protect us. Mr. Jeff, he may have been your relative. What do you know.
Let it rest now for the sake of the greiving family.
Strike 2!! for the RCMP.
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Johnny Reality on Apr 23, 2010 at 7:49 am
Personal responsibility is at the heart of this inquest. A jail cell is not a hospital, granted, but this expectation that the jail cells and hospital rooms should serve as adult daycares cuts me deep.
I am an adult who drinks to excess every so often, as do my friends. But I at least have enough of a glimmer of reality to keep myself in clean pants and out of the drunk tank. With the "right" as an adult to drink alcohol comes the *responsibility* as an adult to not be a literal waste of flesh. These are simple rules to follow- know your limits if you are willing to test them, take care of your friends (and the people who interact with your friends if they are out of control), stay out of public if you are too messed to interact, and stay off the damn roads.
If you can put a bottle to your lips don't expect to be given quarter for acting like an idiot. The people in the jails, the ambulances, the hospitals and *the general public* are tired of dealing with you.
I see so many supporters, friends and family standing on the courthouse steps crying. Fingers are being pointed in the wrong direction. Where were you when Ray was getting so messed up that he was soon to die? Where does your sense of personal responsibility and public reliability overlap reality?
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LM on Apr 23, 2010 at 7:36 am
To Brewer, Jack and McKenzie...your comments turn my stomach just as much as reading these articles of how shoddy and unethical these gaurds did at their job. These guards are not the Judges...they are there to make sure human beings that are detained don't hurt themselves or anyone else. Sure...it isn't the Hilton but what country do you come from that you can justify these actions. It is their JOB to look after these people (these situations)and act professionally about it. If they can't handle it then get out.
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Jasmine Corbes on Apr 23, 2010 at 7:25 am
Sure, policies have to be followed, I agree with that. As for the comments recorded, working in this environment, if you can't vent sometimes, you go crazy.
And where were the family as Raymond celebrated his birthday at the homeless shelter?
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Virgil on Apr 23, 2010 at 6:11 am
"Why should society be responsible for people that are not responsible for themselves??? "
Really?
R.C.M.P are there to deal with deviants. You're saying "society" (in this case represented by the R.C.M.P) shouldn't be responsible for people that are not responsible for themselves.
Then what are the R.C.M.P. there for? That's exactly their purpose. Otherwise I should be allowed to walk around drunk offending people (fully aware of my actions) and the R.C.M.P shouldn't be responsible to deal with that.
Fire and brimstone to the R.C.M.P. and boo to the natives that are jumping on the bandwagon.
"Caring, respective..."
etc etc
Really? That's why he ended up dying on a jail cell floor because he drank too much? "Not a regular drinker."
So one night he decided to get plastered to the point where he vomits/defecates in himself...?
I've been drunk before too, I always maintain that limit of control. My choice.
I do believe in respecting the dead and I offer my condolences to those that lost someone they cared about.
But for the bandwagon jumpers that are trying to get settlement out of this
ha!
R.C.M.P. should definitely have some punishment brought down on them. There should be a review of the prison system (Why not make it legal for R.C.M.P. To use a garden hose to clean inmates. They strip, you spray.. they don't strip... you spray)...
but no amount of money will bring the deceased back (may he R.I.P.).
Use this an instance to actually learn something and create a solution. Instead of setting up two rival camps and trying to milk each other for whatever you can
/rant
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johnjack on Apr 23, 2010 at 1:52 am
Why should society be responsible for people that are not responsible for themselves???
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Donald McKenzie on Apr 22, 2010 at 1:55 pm
I'm NOT shocked at what the transcripts of the persons working in the cells say. If I had to work in that environment everyday, I'd be one of the ones making those comments. That said, I wonder if Mr. Silverfox was part of a small group, known as, "The Dirty Dozen", who eat up a HUGE amount of emergency resources (time, money, etc.) The "membership" of the dozen is a rough number, as it is fluid, members dying off and all, with new ones taking their place. I applaud the hard-working, dedicated, caring members of emergency services, who scrap these people off the sidewalk, seemingly, every day. They do a job, I simply could not. For people "shocked" at what they say, when not in public, I advise you to walk a mile in their work shoes.
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Miss Northern Tutchone on Apr 22, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I am in misbelief to the fact that another human being can treat another being in the way the RCMP/Guards had treated this young First Nation Man. SHAME ON YOU! They should be FIRED!!
May the Lord have mercy on your souls when it is your time! "For whatever a man sows, that he will also reap!
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Thomas Brewer on Apr 22, 2010 at 8:33 am
What does this articles title have to do with anything?
The fact that he impregnated a woman years ago has nothing to do with the circumstances being investigated this week.