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INFORMATION VOID – City council heard Monday night from senior city staffers Glenda Koh (left) and Catherine Constable (right) about how the city is not in a position to fully assess the impacts of two climate-related motions put forward in June. An 11-page report from administration says a full assessment would require more time, money and expertise the city simply doesn’t have.

Council briefed on intricacies of climate change motions

There’s more to assessing the impact of the city declaring a climate change emergency than meets the eye, city council was informed at its meeting Monday evening.

By Chuck Tobin on September 17, 2019

There’s more to assessing the impact of the city declaring a climate change emergency than meets the eye, city council was informed at its meeting Monday evening.

In an 11-page administrative report presented to council, city staff outlined a number of realities council must face in considering such a declaration and direction sought under the declaration.

There is a great deal involved in assessing the impact of two climate-related but substantially different motions put forward in June by councillors Steve Roddick and Jocelyn Curteanu, the reports suggests.

It says the city does not have in place the information to make such an assessment, nor does it have the expertise as a municipal government to even put the information together.

The report suggests the city can’t just flip a switch and expect to have a carbon budget associated with every capital project.

If there was a carbon value associated with each project, it’s not clear how that value would be used assigning priority to the different projects, particularly measured against the overarching priorities council has identified for the city, the report explains.

The report suggests that implementing a system of being able to weigh each initiative, each project, to assign a carbon value that can be used to assess proposals and their impact on the city’s commitment to battle climate change will take time and money.

To manage risks arising from climate change that may impact on the city, the risks need to be understood, says the report.

While the city has identified general vulnerabilities associated with climate change, it says, there’s been no work to determine the specific impact different threats may have on infrastructure and daily operations.

“The necessary expertise/capacity is not currently available within the city’s staff component,” says the report of administration’s ability to make those determinations.

In many instances throughout administration’s report to council, there is mention of additional staff time, consulting fees and even another full-time position to fulfill the obligations contained in the motions put forward in June.

In his motion, Roddick asked his colleagues to declare a climate change emergency, and to direct administration to enhance the city’s

response to climate change.

It calls for the establishment of a climate change task force.

While disagreeing with need to declare an emergency, Curteanu put forward a subsequent motion calling for more federal support to help municipalities meet their Paris Agreement targets.

It directs administration to assess the city’s vulnerability to climate change and understand its adverse effects while managing the risks by adapting them into municipal operations, policies, plans and processes.

In June, the motions were deferred to September to provide administration with the time to assess the implications of the two motions.

They will be back before council for a vote next Monday.

Members of council spent more than an hour Monday night discussing the matter. They also asked questions of Glenda Koh, the city’s environmental co-ordinator, and Catherine Constable, the city’s manager of legislative services.

Coun. Samson Hartland asked if administration has put a cost estimate on the proposed motions.

Koh explained there were no such estimates, though staff tried to estimate what individual clauses of each motion would require and cost.

She could not, she told council, anticipate future operational costs nor costs to the capital budgets.

“A framework or model approach is required to establish a carbon budget,” the 11-page report says in response to one of the clauses. It calls for a carbon budget to be built into the city’s capital budget as a specific line item beginning next year.

“There is limited experience with carbon budgets in other Canadian municipalities,” says the report. “Most municipalities exploring carbon budgets are larger and have more capacity than the City of Whitehorse.”

To properly assess costs there need to be implementation plans, Constable said, but there are none.

Roddick said he was afraid the city was only looking at one side of the equation when assessing costs. As he did in June, he expressed concern about the cost of not doing more to confront climate change.

But as Koh and Constable explained to council, and as the report outlined, the city just doesn’t have the tools nor the background knowledge at this point to fully assess the impact of the two motions put forward.

Koh told council the city has established targets to cut greenhouse gas emissions, and is monitoring its progress.

She told council where the city is with regard to meeting greenhouse gases reduction targets for 2030 that were established by the Paris Agreement, and where the city needs to go.

The city knows how much the new firehall off Front Street is going to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, she said.

But administration can’t quantify costs and impacts based on information the city does not have, or concepts that it has yet to explore, council heard Monday night.

Council heard that measuring reductions in greenhouse gas emissions is very different than building a carbon budget into all aspects of city operations and capital project considerations.

It was noted council can still call for more public input.

Staff suggested the ongoing review of the Official Community Plan may be an option to provide the platform for gathering additional input.

Comments (15)

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Josey Wales on Sep 23, 2019 at 5:26 pm

Hey bandit....I think you made a great point.
Both my dogs are now dead, and my home has a chill, a big chill this year it never had before.

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Groucho d'North on Sep 23, 2019 at 4:22 pm

I've read a few climate science papers and an enlightening book by climatologist Dr. Tim Ball called 'The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science' Heady stuff let me tell you. I soon realized that his was science way beyond my college education and I had to have some measure of trust in what was being reported, same as I have to trust the warmer crowd who keep predicting the end of the world and increased calamity that does not come to fruition as they predict.
In this context I read the above article and wondered what level of understanding and problem-solving the city councillors would bring to bear on the creation of a Climate Emergency Plan and how best to deal with it.
What are the priorities and why? How much time is needed and to do what? How much should this cost and how much is too much?
How would they vet the consultants who will be lining up like pigs to the trough? What credentials do they bring to the game and have they been tested in a real world context? Are they warmers or deniers and similar questions need to be asked before tax dollars get spent chasing snipes.

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Bandit on Sep 23, 2019 at 3:09 pm

I don't think the sky is falling"chicken little". The Planet cools and warms in cycles but look at this possibility, In 1970 there were 3.686 Billion people on Earth, Today there are roughly 7.7 Billion people here. I was taught if you were ever suffering from hypothermia and were with someone willing to disrobe and join you NAKED under the covers in the woods, body heat would warm you up. Do you think maybe that the population has something to do with "Global Warming"?

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Mother Earth is Number 1 on Sep 22, 2019 at 12:26 pm

It matters little where or when, one does not need to apologize for protecting fish, wildlife or the environment. It does not matter how much money you have, without clean water and air, we are all goners.

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Rejulio on Sep 21, 2019 at 2:50 pm

City staff and council can't figure out how to develop a subdivision, let alone a climate change strategy. Here come the consultants! How's that windmill spinning in WB?

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No Excuse for Failure on Sep 20, 2019 at 7:18 pm

The Big Climate Change Quiz
You are terrified about climate change! So you have joined millions around the world for Greta's school strike for the climate. This is not anything to do with skipping lessons of course, you feel passionately. But have you got your facts straight? Time to find out...
https://www.playbuzz.com/item/af7c2201-9cea-4b05-85cb-e826e021b6cc?utm_source=CCNet+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1fe832fc07-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_20_08_05_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe4b2f45ef-1fe832fc07-36418213

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Michael Miller on Sep 20, 2019 at 5:03 pm

This is an emergency and council needs to give the matter due consideration.
I sometimes feel council does not have the ability to deal with matters more complicated than parking or snow clearing.

And I think there is bullying against the council member who brought this forward.

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North_of_60 on Sep 18, 2019 at 11:28 pm

These irresponsible overspending clowns want to raise our taxes to pay for their bad decisions. ClimateChange™ guilt is just the latest excuse to squeeze more out of us.
None of the weather changes we are experiencing are unusual, abnormal or alarming in the context of earth's climate history since the ice sheets melted 10,000 years ago.
There is no "Climate Emergency" this is nothing more than virtue-signaling by politicians.

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Thersa on Sep 18, 2019 at 5:07 pm

May I ask all you denialists. Even if you don't agree with scientists conclusions from around the globe.
Please tell us, I'm begging, what is so terrible about trying to take better care of mother earth? Sheesh.

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JC on Sep 18, 2019 at 2:26 pm

When the Green Party rep in Whitehorse posts that the heavy smoke and forest fires happening near Stewart Crossing “aren’t normal” and it’s time to do something about it, inferring to vote Green, I get a little woozy. As most intelligent informed people know, forest fires are a natural and vital part of the Yukon’s ecosystem. On average, there are about 100 forest fires per year. It’s pretty normal. So when these alarmist, like the city council members, consider this climate change emergency declaration, I again feel a bit sick to my stomach. Please define the emergency. It seems like the City needs to administer another fund. Please govern responsibly. This is the opposite.

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In bed on drugs! on Sep 18, 2019 at 1:33 pm

Here we go again with City council members pushing their own agenda.
I agree with the statement that the Al Gores, David Suzuki. Leonardo DiCaprio, and their ilk, flying around the world in private jets, multi-million dollar yachts, owning four or five mega homes around the world, and preaching to the masses to clean up their act with regard to global warming and climate change.
The quote I heard that best describes them is, "I'll believe it's a crisis when the people who claim it's a crisis, start acting like it's a crisis".
Perhaps Mr. Roddick and supporters should set an example, and ride a horse to and from work for a full year, instead of using their gas guzzlers, to set an example for the rest of the non believers.

We need you Obi Wan!

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Josey Wales on Sep 18, 2019 at 12:05 am

Carbon credits...social credits...equity initiatives...greenhouse gas industry...blah blah, all puuuuure wizard speak.
Known as nonsense, bulls**it, smoke and mirrors, political blowholes venting.

....but hey, “they” have at least 400k of “your money”.
To buy art? Guess that means we can now saunter around the CoW hiding spots...to admire our art...we bought...for their inner sanctum?
Do I now get a poor CoW social credit on my citizen record now for sharing my opinion without a permit?

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jc on Sep 17, 2019 at 9:02 pm

Getting tired of this "climate change" scam. The truth is, climate change has been around since the planet was formed. It has to change to keep everything under control. And it's time to stop calling it "carbon". It's carbon dioxide. But when these scam artists call it carbon, it gives the effect that it's dirty soot in the air. That's a lie. Carbon Dioxide is an invisible gas. It's what all life depends on to exist. Without carbon dioxide, all life would die. Vegetation lives on carbon dioxide and in return gives off oxygen for everything that breaths. I learned that from grade school many years ago. Are they not teaching this anymore? When did it stop being taught?
It's important to know the gurus that have been spinning this scam are multi millionaires. David Suzuki for instance, owns 4 multi million dollar mansions. And drives big gas guzzling cars, flies all over on private jets etc. Not to mention Al Gore. That's another story. All getting filthy rich on this carbon scam. Wise up folks. It's a scam, and the real cost is coming out of your pockets in ridiculous taxes.
The weather is changing. It has to periodically, when nature starts to cool down, in a few years, what will the gurus tell us then? Let's just learn to live with the changes and get on with our lives. Vote out this ridiculous carbon tax and all those who sponsor it.

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Joe on Sep 17, 2019 at 8:24 pm

Stop wasting our taxpayers dollars on these unfounded personal opinions. Roddick do your job and fix the potholes. I can’t believe council can ask staff to waste taxpayer dollars like this.... ranks right up there with $400,000 art for an already unnecessary admin building.

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can we fire council members? on Sep 17, 2019 at 3:11 pm

I really dislike when council members use their elected position to push personal agendas.

I, personally, did not vote for this. I voted for a better Whitehorse and not a better world.

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