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SCENE OF TRAGEDY – William Lagimodiere died in February 2014 after being struck by an SUV while using this pedestrian crossing on Fourth Avenue.

Coroner suggests overhead lights at busy crosswalk

The City of Whitehorse should urgently construct an overhead flashing-lights system at the Fourth Avenue pedestrian crosswalk in front of Tags Food and Gas, the Yukon’s chief coroner has recommended.

By Rhiannon Russell on April 6, 2015

The City of Whitehorse should urgently construct an overhead flashing-lights system at the Fourth Avenue pedestrian crosswalk in front of Tags Food and Gas, the Yukon’s chief coroner has recommended.

The suggestion comes after coroner Kirsten Macdonald’s investigation into the death of William Lagimodiere. He was hit by an SUV in February 2014 while he was crossing Fourth Avenue.

Video surveillance of the area showed the 69-year-old push the button to activate the flashing lights on both sides of the road.

He waited for southbound traffic to clear, then began to walk eastbound in the crosswalk. About 10 seconds later, he was struck.

Lagimodiere was taken to Whitehorse General Hospital in critical condition, and later died from his injuries.

Those included an arm fracture, head laceration, collapsed right lung and spinal dislocation “so severe it was incompatible with life,” according to Macdonald’s March 19 report.

She found the SUV was travelling northbound about 10 kilometres over the speed limit, which was 30 km/h in what was then a construction zone.

Orange signs were posted advising motorists to slow down due to crews working in the area.

The driver didn’t yield to the crosswalk and didn’t brake before hitting Lagimodiere, Macdonald found.

That day, Feb. 26, 2014, was clear and sunny.

“Sunlight from the south diminished northbound drivers’ ability to observe the flashing crosswalk lights,” Macdonald wrote.

“The painted crosswalk lines on the pavement were worn off and no longer visible.”

The current lights system at the crosswalk includes a white pedestrian sign in front of Tags, about three metres above the sidewalk.

There are eight lights around it, and two orange lights under the sign that illuminate when the button is pushed.

On the other side of the street is a yellow pedestrian sign and two button-activated flashing orange lights.

Macdonald recommends the city’s engineering department erect overhead illuminated signs with downward lights and pedestrian pushbutton-activated flashers to prevent future similar deaths.

Such a system is in place at Second Avenue and Wood Street.

The stretch of Fourth where Lagimodiere was hit is busy with both pedestrian and vehicle traffic, Macdonald wrote.

Overhead signs with downward lights would increase motorists’ awareness of pedestrians, draw their attention to the crosswalk ahead and eliminate the effects of sunlight on the flashing lights.

The driver of the SUV was convicted last month of two charges under the Motor Vehicles Act: failure to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk and driving without due care and attention.

Calls to the city’s engineering department were not returned last Thursday afternoon.

The city is closed today as part of the Easter break.

Comments (22)

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PJT1959 on Apr 12, 2015 at 9:17 pm

From what I see on this is having city engineers look at what they have already done shows how little thought on design is done by the department. Not one set of crosswalk lights are the same in the city. The new one on 2nd is close to being the best one in the city as you can see the overhead from either side regardless of direction of travel. Time to get all crosswalks the same and lights overhead flashing in both directions. Please remember that the speed limit is only 50 km. That is my rant.

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Fed Up on Apr 11, 2015 at 12:09 pm

How many overhead walkways do you see on main street in Vancouver ?
I'm sorry but some of the ideas I read on these boards are so silly.
Bottom line is someone should be paying closer attention to the BAD DRIVERS in this town. Not make it easier for them to speed and be as careless as they want.
If the city had put in a proper solution to begin with, we would not be discussing this issue again .
I look out my window at work and see the "the close calls" at this crosswalk every day and I am amazed someone isn't run down on a daily basis and it is always drivers who don't stop even when lights are activated .
I recently saw a truck go through a stop sign and a RCMP officer pull him over and give him a warning. I yelled at the cop that this is part of the problem in this town, either they're never around and when they are, they do nothing.
Please people from one human being to another, Slow Down and Stop Running so many Red lights, life is too short to take so many chances with my life and yours.

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Start charging people, and maybe bad driving will change on Apr 11, 2015 at 6:12 am

The article says "The driver of the SUV was convicted last month of two charges under the Motor Vehicles Act: failure to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk and driving without due care and attention." Cracking down and charging bad drivers is the way to get them to smarten up - too bad it took someone dying for charges to be laid. Pretty minor charges, but the driver will have to live with what he did, also punishment

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Josey Wales on Apr 9, 2015 at 4:11 pm

@proposal...indeed, I too noticed the digression after ped got confused.
I was hoping someone would notice that.
Too often in these local "threads" folks already have their pitchfork in hand as they look for the matches...for the witch hunt.
And often overlook the version of events as "reported" or commented on.

Considering the main traffic/pedestrian conflict, we should build like underground hamster tubes that run to all the regular haunts...liquor store for certain. That way no more staggering misunderstood lost souls get hurt, stay warm in the winter and the "sub culture" can be truly isolated from reality...like it is now.
We could also save heaps by not putting up any stop signs, drivers here do not bother much with them.

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Proposal is for overhead lights, not overhead walkway on Apr 9, 2015 at 3:40 pm

After seeing a couple of comments here, I went back and re-read the article. Unless I'm mistaken, pretty sure there's no overhead pedestrian walkway proposed, rather overhead pedestrian flashing lights, similar to those on Hamilton Blvd. But yes, overhead pedestrian walkways introduce a whole new set of problems

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Smurf on Apr 9, 2015 at 3:14 pm

@ Mandeep:
Are you running for mayor again? If yes - you could work on these changes...
Do you think everybody on 3rd or 5th Avenue will be happy about your idea?
Bus downtown loop? That's what we had already a few years ago (even up to the CGC) and it didn't work!
Somebody should step up and redesign the whole downtown core traffic flow - including one ways at 2nd and 4th.
Also roundabouts are very effective but almost nobody in town knows how to use it (proper signalling?) and there is no room for it at Tags anyway...

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Mandeep Sidhu on Apr 9, 2015 at 12:40 am

I'll still promote that same idea I already proposed, (Prepare for impact study budget).

Remove all stop signs from Third and Fifth Avenue that are north- south to encourage people to use the side streets. Make all East – West streets stops; creating consistency. Versus the stop + go setup we have now. This would give commuters three options for getting to the two mile hill - south access - mountain view. Traffic would still merge at the bottom of two mile hill and the other mentioned accesses. But it would be a more continuous flow; versus the stop/go + traffic circles (This is in my head, drivers set the conditions of how roads work).

We could also implement a park + ride or ride share that meets at the bottom of the south access. Combined with a bus that does the "city loop" (2nd - 4th) all day, you could decrease congestion. (You would see a congestion increase at the bottom of south access having all the cars leaving ~ no worse then what it currently is. 15 cars at a time ~unless everyone gets off work at the exact same time). This would remove a few cars from the downtown core.

Park & ride @ Takhini arena maybe?
I don't see the rink being used much during the day. A private business venture could be to; rent out half the parking lot (generating revenue for the City), have a security guard, charge for people to park there and have a shuttle to drive people down town. Combined with a COW bus (One bus) that does the 2nd – 4th loop (a bus loops the downtown core every fifteen minutes). It might help ease congestion.
This was an idea already given to mayor and council. I have copies of the emails.

Obviously, I'm not an engineer, I've just lived in cities where these ideas have worked.

Traffic Circles aren't the answer.
On another note and to actually deal with the story:

Ogilvie has a great set of overhead lights and I can't think of one pedestrian accident happening there. They are easy to see, lights and pedestrians.

Some of the issues with the “Tags intersection” are quite simple.
One is being cordial. People will stop at the oddest times to let other cars go through. That’s a very nice gesture, but it only works if the other cars stop as well.
As well, the "intersection" is extremely busy; Yukon Inn, Tags, Dollar Store, McDonalds, Salvation Army. People are zipping in and out all day. Fridays with 50% Salvation Army is insane. Drivers need to pay attention, but when you're watching for cars cutting in front of you, or the driver stopping to be cordial, or the fury of 50 orange pylons, or are checking the gas prices, and all you get is a small set of LED's pulsing in your face... pedestrians might end up being last on your mind.

Overhead lights would help a tonne for pedestrians... so would alert drivers...
but this was already mentioned prior to the accident. Dan Curtis has the emails... the phone calls to the city were documented, I made sure of it; the city doesn't want to face the reality:

The City Of Whitehorse (Mayor + Council + Administration) cannot manage the monolith it has created.

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Heather O'Carroll on Apr 8, 2015 at 7:46 pm

So everyone who wants an overhead pedestrian walk has never lived in a place with one. My last year in high school saw two stabbings and three rapes in one. Those same overheads had fully enclosed fences put on them because upset individuals found that jumping in front of vehicles by dropping off of a pedestrian bridge is an easy/dramatic way to go. Lastly little jerks, such as myself until a cap kicking, loved to huck rocks onto unsuspecting motorists. Yeah.... they're not the answer.

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Pedestiran on Apr 8, 2015 at 10:19 am

Just Walking - Terrible pesky pedestrians, a smudge on your windshield and only a hazard for motorists impeding their travel! How dare they!
How about we implement real, actual safety measures for non-motorists using travel 'corridors'. Like automatic liability assigned to motorists in collisions, separated travel lanes and streets designed for all modes of transportation.

And remember, driving is bad for your health...even worse than smoking!

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Just Walking on Apr 7, 2015 at 3:32 pm

Perhaps having multiple crosswalks all along 2nd and 4th going across four busy lanes of traffic isn't the best idea! We have numerous traffic lights, enforce people to walk to a light to cross! Yes, people need to pay more attention when driving but making pedestrians more accountable for their actions would be nice for once. Driving downtown is a nightmare with people popping out all over the place to walk across the street.

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no overhead walkway on Apr 7, 2015 at 3:27 pm

Would an overhead walkway really be the answer? Then drivers are less aware of people on the street AND how many people will actually walk up the walkway when they can just dart in front of traffic if it seems "clear" for passing.

Drivers slowing down and pedestrians taking responsibility of their own lives and making sure traffic is stopped before crossing is what will prevent further tragedies. It's hard for vehicles to stop quickly--especially in the winter--when they are driving more than the speed limit. Maybe there should be speed cameras on Second and Fourth as a solution instead of more lights.

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Harv on Apr 7, 2015 at 2:58 pm

@ Ped
"Alot of people have been hurt or killed at this intersection. "

Except it's NOT an intersection and therein lies the problem. A southbound car stopped in the center lane could be turning into Tags or could be stopping to let a pedestrian cross. Drivers of southbound cars in the curb lane must be vigilant and make a decision on why traffic is stopped in the center lane. Typically you will see a lot of lane hopping on this stretch as drivers scoot around stopped vehicles which adds to the risk for motorist, cyclists and pedestrians.

The Coroner is correct on this. The Large overhead apparatus would almost certainly saved this man's life.

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DeepMan on Apr 7, 2015 at 2:44 pm

Mandeep - with all your useful suggestions, you should run for office. You can't fail. Regarding the location in particular, just wait till there is a repetition of the incident and the car in question careens off of 4th and onto the forecourt of Tags as a tanker is filling the underground gas reservoirs. That would one hot news story. ( and might even puts Tags out of business as a side-issue).

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north_of_60 on Apr 7, 2015 at 2:25 pm

Effective crosswalk lights should have been installed at this location long ago. Unfortunately the Mayor and Council are too busy chasing 'Sustainability Fantasies' to consider the safety of pedestrians as something important to address. This is the most incompetent Mayor and Council this city has ever elected.

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Ped on Apr 7, 2015 at 11:24 am

Alot of people have been hurt or killed at this intersection. I totally agree with an overpass crosswalk. I have been almost hit five times while crossing lit crosswalks in Whitehorse. Drivers need to slow down and obey the speed limits. More enforcement is needed on 2nd Avenue and 4th before more innocent people die.

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Josey Wales on Apr 6, 2015 at 10:23 pm

Yes Doug great idea. The ACME co. makes those, but the release mechanism often sticks.
We have with NO DOUBT the worst drivers ...EVER! We have hundreds of cross walks, perhaps that is part of the problem?
When was the last time anyone seen flashing red lights, the enforcement type, using the "user pay" approach to road safety and ticketing the many, many morons we have here?
...nope too busy babysitting drunks and feeding off the low hanging fruit of meters complete with swank CCTV SUV to generate revenue.

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Gayle Moffatt on Apr 6, 2015 at 7:31 pm

I like the setup at Tim Hortons and Pizza hut on second ave. You have the overhead and also the flashing lights that you can see.

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Mandeep on Apr 6, 2015 at 7:24 pm

I emailed Dan Curtis on 10/24/2012 to change the pedestrian crosswalk to an overhead style.
I've phoned the COW numerous times and have talked to two "senior" managers about how unsafe the crosswalk is.
I watch everyday as pedestrians almost get hit crossing here.

Another email was sent on 11/3/14 to Dan Curtis and council concerning the pedestrian cross walk.
I have copies of both. This mayor and council have done their best to avoid making any changes that have been requested; or have they even bothered to discuss them?

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Judith on Apr 6, 2015 at 7:20 pm

In Whitehorse it doesn't matter what you do to prevent pedestrian deaths, it will still happen as select people driving cars in this town just don't give a damn. They think that they and their cars have rights over and above pedestrians and cyclists. Traffic monitoring maybe (speed trap) in certain death zones. Tickets and drivers school at the expense of the driver (combined package deal). Last but least an actual traffic light that is timed to stop traffic on both sides to allow a pedestrian to cross safely. I have lived here since 1998 and have seen nasty changes to Whitehorse. This total disregard towards others is one of them.

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Slightly confused. on Apr 6, 2015 at 7:06 pm

“Sunlight from the south diminished northbound drivers’ ability to observe the flashing crosswalk lights,” Macdonald wrote.
How is this possible with the sun at your back if your heading North? There are eight lights around it, and two orange lights under the sign that illuminate when the button is pushed.

"On the other side of the street is a yellow pedestrian sign and two button-activated flashing orange lights." I see flashing strobe lights not orange lights.

Macdonald recommends the city’s engineering department erect overhead illuminated signs with downward lights and pedestrian pushbutton-activated flashers to prevent future similar deaths.

""Such a system is in place at Second Avenue and Wood Street." The lights and crossing system on 4th ave are as safe and capable as the ones on 2nd ave.

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nope on Apr 6, 2015 at 6:11 pm

Roundabout. With loud speakers. I'm serious.

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Doug Martens on Apr 6, 2015 at 3:32 pm

Could also install collision-resistant steel plate that rises on both sides of the crosswalk.

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